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Demon's Souls, Eufloria, Canabalt, Geared, and Mr. Bounce

Monday, October 26th, 2009 – running time 34:33

Believe it our not, it's our first CO-OP: The Animated Series! Well... sort of. You'll see. We have a lively debate on whether Demon's Souls is as terrific as people say or truly awful, an in-depth about the ambient, indie RTS Eufloria and an iPhone round-up of some of our favorites: Canabalt, Geared, and Mr. Bounce!

Segments

Yes, this is the premiere of CO-OP: The Animated Series! Except it isn't. Well, it sort of is . . . you'll see. The merits of Demon's Sous are hotly contested in this week's episode while our iPhone round-up and Eufloria coverage give you plenty of light-weight alternatives to the season's heavy-handedness in "Triple-AAA" releases currently flooding store shelves.

Eufloria

Formerly known as Dyson, the indie darling Eufloria was given some quality play-time by Matt and it definitely lives up to the hype. The simplified RTS mechanics go a long way to making the graphical gem a playable wonder and were it not for the lack of multiplayer could easily be a must-have for any fan of the genre, even in such a crowded holiday season.

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iPhone Round-up

It's been a while since we got a chance to cover gaming on the iPhone and we figured it would serve you better if we could offer up more than just a single title for your consideration. Within: the simplistic but addictive Canabalt, the groovy and though-provoking puzzler Geared, and a new take on a classic gaming form with Mr. Bounce. Bon appetit!

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Demon's Souls

Ray Barnholt from 1UP.com reviewed Demon's Souls for that site and gave it an "A." Kat Bailey, an industry freelance writer also thinks of the game as one of her "best purchases this year." Ryan and Matt hate it. We attempt to clear up some of the mystery as to why this game appeals greatly to some and causes others to toss it aside after repeated fits of rage.

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Highlights

jason bay: 2:37
video game: 18:02
nuclear device: 32:19
freeman dyson: 4:36

Automatically Generated Transcript

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" It's. You Florida had just came out I didn't really know anything about I kind of wanted to play it. Just being suffer heart stylus on the screen shot on steam I think. It's then off my radar completely I had like no idea what it was at all yeah and it. Turns out that it's totally worth it and it's very very good in the."

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" Sure that he is that you you know you're these bio mechanical plants that are growing out of asteroids. Exploring into new asteroids taking them over growing further and like fighting enemy and any colonies as well on its. It's very much so like any us based empire -- that you beneath the metaphor."

" definitely there the asteroid. Has has three -- has energy and strength and speed and depending on and -- stats that's the kind of seeming -- you'll be able to grow on that -- in order to. In order to generate more seedlings so that you can expand -- empire as you can basically listen -- in control of multiple asteroids and yeah and and maintain your -- on the -- restaurant yes exactly and every -- has a certain I think -- it is like a gravitational well you know but it's basically just a radius of effect and I can take over and -- you can -- One jump to anywhere in its radius of effect to another Astrid when. New Jersey things as both -- resource. And as your unit. -- three different kinds of seedlings and all have different attributes like the energy seedlings. Are really good for taking over enemy planet because like you have to swing down into their core and that we -- planet's energy."

" Down to zero then being taken over."

" This election process for choosing. Your. You're seedlings to send out its -- a little bit lucky -- as you can end up with hundreds of seedlings. Flying around an asterisk code and say you hit the arc arc mouse button -- you hold it down and it counts up. And I would searches like and select all partners. Finished -- want to tell -- ago. Yeah exactly so let's all go select all -- It kind of quicken the pace of this."

" Real genius and creativity in this game comes in it's simplicity because the only thing that you can do. Is. Groceries. And -- he means different restaurants. And that's all you can do you or I see links to attack others evenings you know you don't really organize different groups have seen things to do different things on based on their class. You sort of canned but it's not really that important games mostly does build up and go. And that's why that's why I think this game is very approachable and up looking very."

" That doesn't have multiplayer you know before gathers no multiplayer and it is it is kind of Juventus. Feels really set up for multiplayer it's something where I can see. They're being a lot of back and forth a lot of expansion in retreat. And that kind of thing and maybe that's something we'll be able to do in the future of this game turns out her success -- I hope it does disagree -- design wrong."

" It's to -- multiple sites. Downloadable yeah you can download it it's on sixteen minutes on direct drive. From I think they're gonna have -- for download on -- website pretty -- everything is all that's what is basically out of -- it's it's available a lot of places the simplified real time strategy elements of it are very enjoyable and it's the kind of thing that I think a lot of people could pick up on instantly even if you're not a big real time strategy and we're big space empire and I kind of thing."

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" Ginger beer yeah. I mean hey what's up its kind to animals to play this I have it's been that close. And a super satellite phone in the there's been -- while yeah let me when -- first came out in the flash games. It was available. Play on the went out -- wherever side. And again like -- year four days later it was available on my. The basic premise is simple. You are a little man is trying to escape from you bunch of sheep like cracking down in this crazy world like there's. Spaceships in the next running around in the background and your goal is sort of go from the left screen to the right of the screen. For as long as you can take more time. It's not that you're never make the end there is no end as far as I know. I'll tell you how far you can go before falling managers to force something. Come loose and keep your death. The premise is simple the game play is just one button tab and -- and you can hold it longer to jump longer that sort of thing. There's certain items in the environment like boxes that might come your capital like slow you down and -- you make. Jobs properly -- air -- stuff. The thing that really -- Barton makes the big game cool I think is of his art direction it's got these like. Beautiful. 280 pixel art backgrounds and some sort of like Bob's level and levels paralyzed scrolling so that you can see you like. You know. This makeover here but this -- goes by faster and everything -- beautiful there's like -- that might come up off the buildings all done -- style the best candidate unethical when -- collapse and they claps -- just I can't believe -- on it is one -- one of the coolest things I've found was -- actually found out about it on -- because you can just -- or write your Twitter recommend again and I was right -- about it with the -- and -- like a few times in the flash -- on the -- and then right after that I was I was like. Seen on Puerto that it is I'm gonna let them against -- perfect drive on I gotta I gotta get this through boxes and bring off. Only got so I went I gotta go forty seconds I've got to port through boxes and I guess yeah. See that as crazy as -- are in this business -- I feel like going back again like when we even claim that in going to tell you guys guys came home geared. It says that you're here or Evan yeah. Geared -- geared yeah."

" So like the idea is that you wanna get the blue here right hours and if you like. Up to five different gears and it helps I'm Sylvia Nigel small here's and then. Or medium hears her luck even larger -- and -- you cannot figure out the path to get the blue. Here going."

" 120. Different stages stand and they get really really hard -- an episode clinching until like global one independent change things up this again where. You have multiple gears then you have to -- going. They had these things where there's no drop zones. He can't place gears in certain zones ICF's political process -- place to -- like around it's -- like get this drop -- here you like dropping to hear from pop and then. Make it land on the one that's moving in kind of stack -- Figure outweighs a round -- drop zones as you move on -- even further. It they have -- contract -- and tablet to move it up or down left right right."

" Over the recent update there's. Community. -- now. You can access through the game people like get gets stuck on -- can ask for help that's really cool because that's like having gains tax in the game you have to go to kickbacks which you know. And you never had need ask yourself. Wolf 47 I did actually. I lighten the Q enabling guide to -- up 47 also and I saw the answers and now much stuck on forty eighths. I think it against --"

" It's a really good puzzle game and it's only 99 cents off like an icy patch yeah I mean I'm mighty house ways."

" But I think it's really innovative I mean it seems thanks it's as simple concept for your first look at it. It looks like pong or something better or like -- you know you have the ball bouncing on I don't and it bounces on its own. The strain that sounds like you have this line express these tests on the screen that's how high the ball -- tunes like the whole thing is is as second best little cable pass. Just like you can show where the ball is going -- directed. Dreading it these little points circles in which you clear up all the points circles you've won the state. And wildlife preserve plane is actually blow -- once these pleas of disappointment around feeling it's how how it's different is that Michael's great -- like hitting a -- you know where it. But the cool thing is is like. Gains like these other stages. Like credit -- into world war. They start throwing in these countries follow up half."

" And then like in stage three you have these square obstacles and and thank you and obstacles obstacles bounce around in your training the restaurant inside them. So thanks to -- as it a lot of little twists and turns suitable formula that's not like about it."

" also has laziness to slow me about that here. But the first thing to think about formatting runs agency that tear -- down to elect while that's happening the ball going to slow motion -- like Becky detection -- It's just really precise -- if."

" I enjoy the concert for the game. And it seems to me like it's the kind of thing -- extensible so I'm hoping it's one of those iPhone games developer. I'm Matthew update stinky it's thanks same with the geared it seems like. He -- and everybody's complaints and -- just made it better and yup that's always the cool thing about iPhone yeah that tends to say actually a check on friends auctions. Got his car I guess so he's going to be bombed -- to get into -- like -- random."

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" Mac called me on the phone earlier today and you'll like it does gay was very god and he told me that they'll be cleared the deep brain dead animals -- I don't know if flight test of that class to choose at the beginning or something probably is his next turn receipts. And not for any particular reason other than all of this person that's cool close right hand you could see. And I am like I'm surrounded dining dynamic pass through this and it's okay. And so I went through the night and I felt much happier yeah."

" This game. He's really trying to. I don't know it's like trying to turn you into a masochistic you know it's that's like that I feel like there's little. Programmer demons over from software we're like we're gonna make everybody in the world evil when making them play this game."

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" It is a game of moments of brilliance and saying. Stack of moments -- actually experience. And get your may be don't like it may be doomed. It is very antiquated and it is built upon -- decades of we'll school. Japanese refugees and lesser ones especially Japanese consulate. Make sure in the longer and more money in games like -- likes something. And it's just -- especially from the shelter from software made -- field work is also very hard grocery game from software's notorious for their."

" I'm forgive being an antiquated but it's the same time like if you -- willing to lead reached deep into it like you get a really more rewarding experience. I don't think it's a special teams like really one of their better side. And it's funny is that we kind of let him clean the likes of their own minds -- it's just incredible X that I can call. People into my game ranked for the -- will help out and that's awesome and I look --"

" Since. Since you remain at half over three quarters of the financing rates are beginning. In year sold for -- until you actually take out of boxes to your benefit thank you see somebody requesting -- need to go jumping to their world. Because you can that possibly keep your whole life back."

" Online stuff beyond my messages that people can believe in the ones that's what saves it showed up with -- I think that is what initially -- And maybe -- by the scam is a little bit different than just like an army."

" It's one of the most interest seemed like implementations. Of all -- anything to link the single player experience I think that's exactly what I want. It's telling -- Monty Python holy Grail that I like and -- must."

" And that's why it felt like when I honestly can't messages and then turn around like pop --"

" And if we didn't get very far in this game played for about. Three or four hours and didn't make it through the first area again just after after having to play through once section them over and over and over again it was about like."

" playing the game in the most obnoxious way that you could possibly have to play it. Which is to memorize every step of the way. To get to the end eventually. It was like to comment on it's it felt like -- negative commentary on video games hadn't felt this way about playing games and thankfully. 651. -- no more heroes -- like. Is this giant open -- joke that is is this game a joke is this game making fun of you for being a video -- if it is I wanna be laughing with it and not have it laughing."

" I guess so I click this yeah. I'm no stranger to a grinding games you know this this game reminds me a lot of games tonight used to playing maybe that's me that's the thing is that. I've already used up my patience level on game tonight played in the past you know I -- I just I've played -- for a while back committee which is the most punishing gaming history and then I played I played -- text in memos for awhile back in the early days of college. And I've played one where if you die eighties. You loss experience and and you usually lose one or two levels worth which people who played ever Questar familiar with -- but. Everything that you got all of your items were also on your body and if you weren't able to make it back to your body to your body disintegrated in sorted everything -- course maybe issues that those past experiences have made -- so that I don't have that kind of patience for the for these kinds of games anymore because I'm playing this. And I'm thinking to myself yeah. All right I have now for eight hours and there's this game I -- eight hours in a demon souls. I am not progressing I'm not getting anywhere so -- need I need somewhere to go further than I got Brett maverick feeling for people maybe now that I got through the first castle. All right maybe I just need to grind to a whole bunch on the soles so I found this one there's this skeleton demon like rules that you like -- in the beginning. These were 300 souls I just think he's going back pounds in its. To the staging -- this guy over and over and over again and if I -- right there it's always going get myself get mice. Get my death my corpse back and give back all my soles so. I."

" I was doing this -- souls buying some great stuff like that and and that throughout it's like what I thought that might doing. Seriously want to welcome ideally I'd just done the same thing over and over and over again for two hours. Like I have a life that I need to get back to I can't do this book that."

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" it -- like there are several times about how frustrated it was this game and I expect to get a lot of replies like oh you just something. -- back and I think but I got a lot of replies and keep their life. -- of this game and I can totally see how it's not for everybody he."

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" I think what you're getting at is to help what's. What's great about it you know right where -- where the where like combat didn't seem greatly. World didn't seem grade the story didn't seem great so I'm thinking. This is a game that everyone is recommending that play and aside from the new light on my mechanic I didn't know what else about it was great like they -- Core game play mechanics didn't -- grieves me so I didn't know what."

" That's uninteresting than in seeing because I think tonight as I mentioned it I've really enjoyed myself. Because police said the comment was particularly satisfying and -- and extremely sent threatening every little Blake every Maastricht I felt like -- huge victory in -- company says it. The game. The reason I wasn't frustrated I got a lot like everybody. Com. But I didn't feel frustrated because it felt -- when I died I died because I screwed up."

" I almost feel like Winamp when I'm actually -- the life player with my full health the first thing that I wanna do when I get into mistakes just -- Just get overly."

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" I borrowed around ray's copy actually -- being recorded copy right and so I pleads the first level as a demon throws the deep. Now I played through it again as -- aids -- and I had such a -- from -- the first Abbas and -- And the -- this game so I immediately jumped on Amazon and that was ignored the problem is things like you're running across the bridge in the dragon its coming -- In these initiatives is your ship with the bridge shaking the camera is turning the icon Madonna guy that guy that I. But -- make -- I think that is the most amazing."

" Controllers three look."

" The only saw that side of the equation I guess I have ice had made -- my mother about the moments I mean I twittered about it I was just like. I love talking tower -- god -- and then like -- walks up to music so I haven't felt on the tarmac today. Adam Blake and yes yes than you think it's gotta be patient. --"

" Yeah but that's that's the thing is like and you make it. It would have played as much as I did yes I stopped. But I knew that that would be you and the reward is that somewhere down the line there because aside dragons like that I get to that dragon and that would feel good. But I just don't think I have anything to go forward and get to the moment ago it was drag and."

" Trying to get -- John Tim Donnelly she and then you finally get CNBC. And finally finding these blossoming. She had gone back commemorating this. Save all of acting. And I got home my. Yes it was the stuff that the levels can ours somewhat ingeniously designed into it like to open up a fast way to. To the monsters that's equity in these respondents the world doesn't. But it anyway. -- that we -- cart community certainly laughs it off my -- the times like especially if it's like. Running away from the dragon and not succeeding who's getting toasted just put the -- if it. I guess it's different now they have Cleveland and different kinds of RPG restaurants not to -- energy and -- years and years and it's like. Isn't -- did did he does jump out -- us more and -- are little more accepting them as its vote."

" It's a really good game and I'm definitely gonna -- and -- one of my best purchases this year and playing a lot of different -- he. -- is he jumps out at me and having played enough games this year -- like it's something jumps out at me -- he must be something special I appreciate that."

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" She likes and fire leads the -- yeah. Please let's appoint its enemies -- jazz it up you know well -- empire put into flames like lasers lasers."

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" It's. You Florida had just came out I didn't really know anything about I kind of wanted to play it. Just being suffer heart stylus on the screen shot on steam I think. It's then off my radar completely I had like no idea what it was at all yeah and it. Turns out that it's totally worth it and it's very very good in the."

" He needs to be called just Dyson let me change euphoria I've ever heard of Freeman Dyson. Not so Freeman Dyson was a or is he still alive he's like this theoretical physicist and where I first heard from heard of them was it in an episode of Star Trek because there's this concept that he came up with call to call the Dyson sphere. The foreign based -- this episode of Star Trek they run across the Dyson sphere which is basically an advanced civilization builds. An entire. It's the year around their star so they can capture all of the solar energy in their structure you can see we're like this guy he's. The idea that -- bond you know back creativity from people's earnings."

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" His idea is that you could have a genetically. Bio mechanically engineered plant. That. Grow on a comment. And rose as a treaty. -- can be designed to create itself into a structure and generate oxygen based off the raw materials that are inside a comment I can provide habitat like a living habitat and art style looks like cellular structures or something -- the colors are nice and soft discussed these simple kind of vector graphic dated things. But it what it represents is asteroids. Got these trees that grow out of an asterisk is really cool to watch with the organic."

" Sure that he is that you you know you're these bio mechanical plants that are growing out of asteroids. Exploring into new asteroids taking them over growing further and like fighting enemy and any colonies as well on its. It's very much so like any us based empire -- that you beneath the metaphor."

" definitely there the asteroid. Has has three -- has energy and strength and speed and depending on and -- stats that's the kind of seeming -- you'll be able to grow on that -- in order to. In order to generate more seedlings so that you can expand -- empire as you can basically listen -- in control of multiple asteroids and yeah and and maintain your -- on the -- restaurant yes exactly and every -- has a certain I think -- it is like a gravitational well you know but it's basically just a radius of effect and I can take over and -- you can -- One jump to anywhere in its radius of effect to another Astrid when. New Jersey things as both -- resource. And as your unit. -- three different kinds of seedlings and all have different attributes like the energy seedlings. Are really good for taking over enemy planet because like you have to swing down into their core and that we -- planet's energy."

" Down to zero then being taken over."

" This election process for choosing. Your. You're seedlings to send out its -- a little bit lucky -- as you can end up with hundreds of seedlings. Flying around an asterisk code and say you hit the arc arc mouse button -- you hold it down and it counts up. And I would searches like and select all partners. Finished -- want to tell -- ago. Yeah exactly so let's all go select all -- It kind of quicken the pace of this."

" Real genius and creativity in this game comes in it's simplicity because the only thing that you can do. Is. Groceries. And -- he means different restaurants. And that's all you can do you or I see links to attack others evenings you know you don't really organize different groups have seen things to do different things on based on their class. You sort of canned but it's not really that important games mostly does build up and go. And that's why that's why I think this game is very approachable and up looking very."

" That doesn't have multiplayer you know before gathers no multiplayer and it is it is kind of Juventus. Feels really set up for multiplayer it's something where I can see. They're being a lot of back and forth a lot of expansion in retreat. And that kind of thing and maybe that's something we'll be able to do in the future of this game turns out her success -- I hope it does disagree -- design wrong."

" It's to -- multiple sites. Downloadable yeah you can download it it's on sixteen minutes on direct drive. From I think they're gonna have -- for download on -- website pretty -- everything is all that's what is basically out of -- it's it's available a lot of places the simplified real time strategy elements of it are very enjoyable and it's the kind of thing that I think a lot of people could pick up on instantly even if you're not a big real time strategy and we're big space empire and I kind of thing."

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" So like the idea is that you wanna get the blue here right hours and if you like. Up to five different gears and it helps I'm Sylvia Nigel small here's and then. Or medium hears her luck even larger -- and -- you cannot figure out the path to get the blue. Here going."

" 120. Different stages stand and they get really really hard -- an episode clinching until like global one independent change things up this again where. You have multiple gears then you have to -- going. They had these things where there's no drop zones. He can't place gears in certain zones ICF's political process -- place to -- like around it's -- like get this drop -- here you like dropping to hear from pop and then. Make it land on the one that's moving in kind of stack -- Figure outweighs a round -- drop zones as you move on -- even further. It they have -- contract -- and tablet to move it up or down left right right."

" Over the recent update there's. Community. -- now. You can access through the game people like get gets stuck on -- can ask for help that's really cool because that's like having gains tax in the game you have to go to kickbacks which you know. And you never had need ask yourself. Wolf 47 I did actually. I lighten the Q enabling guide to -- up 47 also and I saw the answers and now much stuck on forty eighths. I think it against --"

" It's a really good puzzle game and it's only 99 cents off like an icy patch yeah I mean I'm mighty house ways."

" But I think it's really innovative I mean it seems thanks it's as simple concept for your first look at it. It looks like pong or something better or like -- you know you have the ball bouncing on I don't and it bounces on its own. The strain that sounds like you have this line express these tests on the screen that's how high the ball -- tunes like the whole thing is is as second best little cable pass. Just like you can show where the ball is going -- directed. Dreading it these little points circles in which you clear up all the points circles you've won the state. And wildlife preserve plane is actually blow -- once these pleas of disappointment around feeling it's how how it's different is that Michael's great -- like hitting a -- you know where it. But the cool thing is is like. Gains like these other stages. Like credit -- into world war. They start throwing in these countries follow up half."

" And then like in stage three you have these square obstacles and and thank you and obstacles obstacles bounce around in your training the restaurant inside them. So thanks to -- as it a lot of little twists and turns suitable formula that's not like about it."

" also has laziness to slow me about that here. But the first thing to think about formatting runs agency that tear -- down to elect while that's happening the ball going to slow motion -- like Becky detection -- It's just really precise -- if."

" I enjoy the concert for the game. And it seems to me like it's the kind of thing -- extensible so I'm hoping it's one of those iPhone games developer. I'm Matthew update stinky it's thanks same with the geared it seems like. He -- and everybody's complaints and -- just made it better and yup that's always the cool thing about iPhone yeah that tends to say actually a check on friends auctions. Got his car I guess so he's going to be bombed -- to get into -- like -- random."

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" I have to say one of the most. Requested gains in the history of our show. I just walked in on Matt is we're about to head out to go to reporter about them and I was like -- guys -- here were about to go and he was just like what you are -- that. And a turnaround to start to walk out and here yeah. Yeah."

" Mac called me on the phone earlier today and you'll like it does gay was very god and he told me that they'll be cleared the deep brain dead animals -- I don't know if flight test of that class to choose at the beginning or something probably is his next turn receipts. And not for any particular reason other than all of this person that's cool close right hand you could see. And I am like I'm surrounded dining dynamic pass through this and it's okay. And so I went through the night and I felt much happier yeah."

" This game. He's really trying to. I don't know it's like trying to turn you into a masochistic you know it's that's like that I feel like there's little. Programmer demons over from software we're like we're gonna make everybody in the world evil when making them play this game."

" Then they are also. First up so much in the second."

" It is a game of moments of brilliance and saying. Stack of moments -- actually experience. And get your may be don't like it may be doomed. It is very antiquated and it is built upon -- decades of we'll school. Japanese refugees and lesser ones especially Japanese consulate. Make sure in the longer and more money in games like -- likes something. And it's just -- especially from the shelter from software made -- field work is also very hard grocery game from software's notorious for their."

" I'm forgive being an antiquated but it's the same time like if you -- willing to lead reached deep into it like you get a really more rewarding experience. I don't think it's a special teams like really one of their better side. And it's funny is that we kind of let him clean the likes of their own minds -- it's just incredible X that I can call. People into my game ranked for the -- will help out and that's awesome and I look --"

" Since. Since you remain at half over three quarters of the financing rates are beginning. In year sold for -- until you actually take out of boxes to your benefit thank you see somebody requesting -- need to go jumping to their world. Because you can that possibly keep your whole life back."

" Online stuff beyond my messages that people can believe in the ones that's what saves it showed up with -- I think that is what initially -- And maybe -- by the scam is a little bit different than just like an army."

" It's one of the most interest seemed like implementations. Of all -- anything to link the single player experience I think that's exactly what I want. It's telling -- Monty Python holy Grail that I like and -- must."

" And that's why it felt like when I honestly can't messages and then turn around like pop --"

" And if we didn't get very far in this game played for about. Three or four hours and didn't make it through the first area again just after after having to play through once section them over and over and over again it was about like."

" playing the game in the most obnoxious way that you could possibly have to play it. Which is to memorize every step of the way. To get to the end eventually. It was like to comment on it's it felt like -- negative commentary on video games hadn't felt this way about playing games and thankfully. 651. -- no more heroes -- like. Is this giant open -- joke that is is this game a joke is this game making fun of you for being a video -- if it is I wanna be laughing with it and not have it laughing."

" I guess so I click this yeah. I'm no stranger to a grinding games you know this this game reminds me a lot of games tonight used to playing maybe that's me that's the thing is that. I've already used up my patience level on game tonight played in the past you know I -- I just I've played -- for a while back committee which is the most punishing gaming history and then I played I played -- text in memos for awhile back in the early days of college. And I've played one where if you die eighties. You loss experience and and you usually lose one or two levels worth which people who played ever Questar familiar with -- but. Everything that you got all of your items were also on your body and if you weren't able to make it back to your body to your body disintegrated in sorted everything -- course maybe issues that those past experiences have made -- so that I don't have that kind of patience for the for these kinds of games anymore because I'm playing this. And I'm thinking to myself yeah. All right I have now for eight hours and there's this game I -- eight hours in a demon souls. I am not progressing I'm not getting anywhere so -- need I need somewhere to go further than I got Brett maverick feeling for people maybe now that I got through the first castle. All right maybe I just need to grind to a whole bunch on the soles so I found this one there's this skeleton demon like rules that you like -- in the beginning. These were 300 souls I just think he's going back pounds in its. To the staging -- this guy over and over and over again and if I -- right there it's always going get myself get mice. Get my death my corpse back and give back all my soles so. I."

" I was doing this -- souls buying some great stuff like that and and that throughout it's like what I thought that might doing. Seriously want to welcome ideally I'd just done the same thing over and over and over again for two hours. Like I have a life that I need to get back to I can't do this book that."

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" You read through yeah yeah wrong. You would help."

" it -- like there are several times about how frustrated it was this game and I expect to get a lot of replies like oh you just something. -- back and I think but I got a lot of replies and keep their life. -- of this game and I can totally see how it's not for everybody he."

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" I think what you're getting at is to help what's. What's great about it you know right where -- where the where like combat didn't seem greatly. World didn't seem grade the story didn't seem great so I'm thinking. This is a game that everyone is recommending that play and aside from the new light on my mechanic I didn't know what else about it was great like they -- Core game play mechanics didn't -- grieves me so I didn't know what."

" That's uninteresting than in seeing because I think tonight as I mentioned it I've really enjoyed myself. Because police said the comment was particularly satisfying and -- and extremely sent threatening every little Blake every Maastricht I felt like -- huge victory in -- company says it. The game. The reason I wasn't frustrated I got a lot like everybody. Com. But I didn't feel frustrated because it felt -- when I died I died because I screwed up."

" I almost feel like Winamp when I'm actually -- the life player with my full health the first thing that I wanna do when I get into mistakes just -- Just get overly."

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" I borrowed around ray's copy actually -- being recorded copy right and so I pleads the first level as a demon throws the deep. Now I played through it again as -- aids -- and I had such a -- from -- the first Abbas and -- And the -- this game so I immediately jumped on Amazon and that was ignored the problem is things like you're running across the bridge in the dragon its coming -- In these initiatives is your ship with the bridge shaking the camera is turning the icon Madonna guy that guy that I. But -- make -- I think that is the most amazing."

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" Yeah but that's that's the thing is like and you make it. It would have played as much as I did yes I stopped. But I knew that that would be you and the reward is that somewhere down the line there because aside dragons like that I get to that dragon and that would feel good. But I just don't think I have anything to go forward and get to the moment ago it was drag and."

" Trying to get -- John Tim Donnelly she and then you finally get CNBC. And finally finding these blossoming. She had gone back commemorating this. Save all of acting. And I got home my. Yes it was the stuff that the levels can ours somewhat ingeniously designed into it like to open up a fast way to. To the monsters that's equity in these respondents the world doesn't. But it anyway. -- that we -- cart community certainly laughs it off my -- the times like especially if it's like. Running away from the dragon and not succeeding who's getting toasted just put the -- if it. I guess it's different now they have Cleveland and different kinds of RPG restaurants not to -- energy and -- years and years and it's like. Isn't -- did did he does jump out -- us more and -- are little more accepting them as its vote."

" It's a really good game and I'm definitely gonna -- and -- one of my best purchases this year and playing a lot of different -- he. -- is he jumps out at me and having played enough games this year -- like it's something jumps out at me -- he must be something special I appreciate that."

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Started discussion: October 27, 2009 @ 9:25am GMT

Episode 302 - Demon's Souls, Eufloria, Canabalt, Geared, and Mr. Bounce [Discussion]

Believe it our not, it's our first CO-OP: The Animated Series! Well... sort of. You'll see. We have a lively debate on whether Demon's Souls is as terrific as people say or truly awful, an in-depth about the ambient, indie RTS Eufloria and an iPhone round-up of some of our favorites: Canabalt, Geared, and Mr. Bounce!

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Colecago
about 24 days ago
Awesome episode. I liked the commentary on Demon's Souls.

I haven't played Kings Field or any JRPG's but after reading reviews about how hard and awesome this game was I decided to pick it up. And I'm not disappointed. The controls feel solid and natural, except for the bow in which I end up mashing buttons to get out of first person in a panic when an enemy runs after me. The challenge and constant death really make the game interesting for me, I don't know if I'm masochistic, but the threat of death every second keeps you deeply involved in the game because you don't know where you will die next.

The first time I played the first level I didn't die until I encountered the blue knight, and after that until the tower knight, I read every message, watched every death, blocked everywhere, and took a generally long time to get anywhere. I usually play games as a passive experience so it feels good to have a game force me into a deeply active experience. I can't wait to join other peoples' games and help them defeat bosses.

I showed my friends this game last weekend and one of them upon returning home picked up a PS3 and Demon's Souls. Unfortunately he forgot to pick up an extra ethernet cable to connect to his non wi-fi internet, but I think he will still enjoy it.

Lastly I'd like to say I was glad to hear a comment about Ginger Beer in the episode, it's good to not be the only one that drinks the stuff.
SirPoonga
about 24 days ago

good episode

I like it when you guys do smaller steam titles. You guys should check out AI War: Fleet Command. For the most part it is a typical RTS. But is has some twists that make is addictive.
az0madman
about 24 days ago
Still on the fence about Demon Souls (not like it matters with all the games I have to play). I hear all this talk about it being rewarding, but I hate games where I end up dying a lot because it just feels like I wasted my time. It's what I hated about some of the older MMOs. The big reason why I decided to give WoW a try was because the death system didn't punish me by having all my items on my dead body and just losing all that hard work.

Yet I feel like I'm missing out by not playing it. There's definitely a lot to like, but a lot to hate as well. I don't know why I'm even debating getting the game. I've spent too much money as it is.
Colecago
about 24 days ago
It doesn't feel like I wasted anything, I might lose like 1k souls or something, but they are easy enough to get, the grind doesn't bore me in this game. Every battle feels fun.
MrPopular
about 23 days ago
I've now been playing the Canabalt flash game alot. It's awesome.. I'd buy it for my Ipod, but stupid 1st gen doesn't have speakers.. and the music is so awesome.
dolson
about 23 days ago
In reply to colecago:
I haven't played Kings Field or any JRPG's but


Holy crap, seriously? I would heartily recommend the original Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest (Dragon Warrior) games if you aren't above revisiting NES games.
Colecago
about 22 days ago
I have a short attention span. I tried FF10, liked it, but then my roommate played through the rest of it while I was doing homework, same thing happened with kindom hearts though I might go back and replay that. So far I've never played through a classic RPG, my style is hack and slash games (beat baldurs gate 1,2 and champions 1,2 for PS2) and FPS's (I play a ton of these). I did start Star Ocean Til the End of Time (on 360) and I liked it, but haven't gone back yet.
Reschat
about 3 days ago

Eufloria fail

I'm just wondering how you first try the right mouse button and then never try the left? "Choose all seedlings" is the left mouse button.

Come on. You guys normally show the games perfectly but this mistake is huge - and I really can't believe that any real gamer can make such a big mistake. Have someone else tried the game and then written a script for you?
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