Swine Flu Containment Unit -- Halo 3: ODST, Beatles Rock Band, and XNA indie games
Monday, September 21st, 2009 running time 41:36
Jason and Matt stop by the XNA's Indie Games booth to chat with Microsoft's Kathleen Sanders and we review the Fall's first blockbusters: Halo 3: ODST and Beatles Rock Band
Halo 3: ODST is a side-story placing you in the role role of an Orbital Drop Shock Trooper on a mission to find his scattered unit in the occupied city of New Mombasa--a change of pace from playing as a super powerful Spartan. Anthony Gallegos joins Matt to discuss whether or not change is a good thing and Matt explains why he'll be playing the new multiplayer mode, Firefight, more than Gears of War's Horde.
If you know us, you know that we don't go to an event without spending quality time with indie games and PAX was no exception. Matt and Jason had a chance to play a bunch of games from XNA's Dream Build Play contest, among others, and interview Microsoft's Kathleen Sanders. Quite a few of the games stood out and so Jason and Matt took their newly acquired free-time to reflect back on better times.
Not surprisingly, a bunch of people wanted to come over to join us in playing Beatles Rock Band. It's a loving tribute to an iconic bands with lots of great music. Dan 'Shoe' Hsu, Raychul Moore, Justin Haywald, and Jade Krauss rock out with Ryan and Jason and hang out to talk, and sometimes argue, about the pros and cons.
Highlights
the beatles: 17:01, 18:35, 19:19, 21:42, 25:00, 25:34, 26:03led zeppelin: 25:07
guitar hero: 20:46, 24:32
adam baldwin: 35:34
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" I don't. Every record high I know all these songs like I love The Beatles. And as a tribute game I think this is a really wonderful tributes. I just don't think it's a very good rock band game. -- going to be easy to place -- around about this -- is that it doesn't have everything you know it's it's it's -- fifty songs -- the size 45 songs. Which is no. If you buy there's like this. So many Beatles songs that you kind of wish they had developed in Italy has 45 songs like after rock -- wanna -- just inundated us with all these different tracks and Guitar -- five that -- 95 -- suddenly -- here's 45 sons. And there's another record coming out you're gonna to April that if Iraq being a -- Beatles and think you're gonna want these albums -- I don't know what it feels like they're trying to. Cheating to get TV's 45 songs like of course you're gonna want these other albums like YouTube bought The Beatles rock band."
" It's hard to please everybody -- course there's songs and I wish there and it's. And other people are happy with the set list of their songs they would want that I would really care about so I like that the deal c.s are so far and an extreme odds are coming out at month. Stands and he got -- read next month sergeant -- her and her -- And so that they think it's it's pleasing everybody then just slowly."
" I remember playing rock band two and it would take days just to get through every song and that you have to play each song streets -- like. They it's kind of more like the original rock band where you didn't get a choice on what songs you think you have to play from the beginning to the end dad. But all -- you get after unlocking each of those and uses them the chance Doug simply through those again and let you can -- for the entire game in three hours and all the songs on blocks from the beginning to regain precious. Necessary yeah. Seven at last one. He can keep ending is so disappointing to me how do you have beaten and people look at -- on like a spoiler if you have not made as the NB a and that is actually just the investigation go from golden slumber."
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" I never seen be opening video until actually Saddam was playing games. And I was blown away by how beautiful it was and how they did such a good job of showing like you said the progression of The Beatles Dhani Harrison was. Help to work on not so that's why they have like. The little UCC back home win. The Beatles because I'm paerson was helping them."
" So this harmony is now as long as someone singing the Blue Line the main track. Then anyone else can you see any of the other harmonies and it's not gonna have -- dealer you know this you have to -- because of a man I think that kind of freedom. It's what I've been waiting for Iraq and I like singing most. And I also always an easy because. I don't ever wanna sell out tonight don't like how restrictive and as it makes you know you have seen exactly the way that they want you saying there's no you probably know Hartman harmonizing none of that. In any other offense -- The ability -- like ships around and seeing whichever part of the song I wanna sing in a year's time is kind of refer."
" I've played the drums -- and one thing and this is two in the Phil's just. Kind of being creative for that short moment in time to throw whatever I want. But then again I cannot understand because they don't want me to destroy you know you're not bettors believe so no I'm not better than Ringo."
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" Can they do what Novell mud like right up at the front right when you're using your instruments they shot the moon ninety harmonics we use the band that. You know anyone would want to get as the if you're ever gonna do like solo one man. Rock band product and he couldn't beat the Eagles as the as a as -- choice and it almost makes any choice that they do after that any other band kind of it's like yeah we we already got the beatles' -- that would been now I would say in death aren't there any other bands and he's thinking could have their own game sites Led Zeppelin is there any -- that merits that I think the next and that they can do that would actually make people go wild isn't the only unit. And it would like go plug and notes yeah."
" I'm not quite so hard court yes Daniel I'm currently being close your eyes yeah. But I I didn't play as music users like obviously you guys have and I need to know for advice -- is alive so to snap an event like a half replace sounds sounds sounds like -- Jimmy is all about just a music from the I was so excited to see The Beatles and I love that music so much that he did it occur to me like comparing it to other products because. It's almost like for -- is no computers she's been bugging me about Keating rock band -- you really don't -- sort of like. I don't know that clutter in my house for a game I'm never gonna play but now it's like yeah bring it on ice controlling it and they get tired and it's all just go to the music it's."
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" And it's still very much -- ran those three things. But when you're playing the rookie it's almost like I was one -- because they do -- kind of sometimes. They encourage you to that. That dot combat that time again they give you a lot of buildings you can actually run in and out of and you can just work your way out of combat but at times. It's not like that and all like you're still very much like. One guy who's just gonna take on multiple -- I mean and still they still managed to make you feel like the master -- and if you're not yet anyway. You."
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" In this you have pipes that that you learned is that teams -- round after round. It also makes it a lot more dramatic when you're like down so like nothing as far as -- goes and there's like that one person and now they've finished around. And they get like -- hero."
" The strategy to totally NAFTA and especially because some of the maps it was lost platoon in these vehicles. Choppers going around the truck just come in and a drop rates. And so it's the defense strategy and -- sensitivity down to get the Spartan laser and he stays in this central building. Am waiting for them to drop agree that this partly that the right -- and there's another map where it takes place in the and a computer for. And it's essentially you know. Two levels here -- levels here with bridges going between them so you're constantly going up and down it's really confusing but it's very senior these very act."
" And some of the maps are just. The same maps. Night and it yet but that actually makes a huge difference it does use them by their very -- basically it and think he's he surprised me that is a little short at least on her I mean like I don't think -- astounding games that you know to six hours to -- Click campaign. Then on top of that I easily spend even just their five hours playing yet I mean if you wanna get the achievement for level you're basically gonna have to live for 45 minutes prior. And then on top of that you get all Halo 3 multiplayer separatist it's a good thing for me I'm liking it together but -- something else like to think that the exciting -- you -- that I mean you know I actually it's the best -- single player campaign today."
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" It's really cool thing about that is in -- Being like discrete places where you can please your powers at terrain is it. It's in 3-D NN has hills and everything like that when you put down like it goes to its power to choose for you wanna -- there's a greater and it. You can put them anywhere on the grid. And -- you know it can affect a certain area of the -- and it makes it a little bit more free form as far as Howard and games go. And then like depending on the generally you Jesus he has access to -- When news that you -- your parents of a sudden you have access. It's. He doesn't. That was a good idea it's gonna like how do you have really find controlled cameras these seemingly an action. Speaking of like kind of unique camera angles on games. Is that IMAX plastered on."
" He's moved from planet -- planet again and your -- these different enemies and what I really liked about that game was. -- say even like pull out of the jam packed and fire on the enemy down on the planet and what's your jet -- power kind of friends out you can. I've come back on the planet and just do more like -- kind of feeling comebacks."
" An inning -- I was kind of -- but after a while those guys started dropping when -- like minds in this. Like I was walking around the I don't know a shovel or something hammer something like that and then the whole thing is it insists its multiplayer. You have this guy playing down together tagline is there like aliens you guys. When you would run out you know like I -- You didn't want in the area and I -- there's two plus plus there's this four player game and that's really cool."
" And rotors got is really interesting because. It's basically. It has a story and really -- our style wrapped around this one's kind of puzzled."
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" Really cool thing about it not being an application in just a minute thinking yeah. Scare you meet -- campaign smile that makes -- evening and then you sell them. I'm you know yeah. --"
" All the -- seem to take place not one -- guys like there's a little story going along like there's kind of a map of the mansion and it unlocks rooms. And then like the puzzles he completed puzzle that's even goes through doors unlock another and a lot more puzzles I go along with the story there's this woman who. Bob just mentioned because she wants to turn it into a hotel. When she meets a guy and imagining they're trying to export to find a secret lab -- really what they -- done as they gonna get done menu system whereas like puzzle what you see right away but instead they like me this whole kind of story that wraps around it's really cool for -- really great idea."
" And the last game that we looked at it wasn't part of the game film plane but it was hot tea online. And basically the idea is like you're picking up as Obama's running back and forth and trying to throw it and other people have to explode them without having to explode on you drive but lite dodge ball and yeah yeah yeah and it says its fourth player competitiveness in the bombs in Iraq you throw it in water to like get rid of it is buying new ones. Or you can't throw into the stone is that it'll explode -- way to make -- exploding on people for the time we're actually ram and and you can also could catch the bombs and throw them back gas. The first and it's starting and as you."
" Where I was thinking okay. And they weren't able to -- again on any heat treatment there tonight I think -- we're right in the platinum got any money. And -- at the beginning Monday. They weren't able to yeah. They found -- way around it. I Danny all the things you can help you. That's so cool now. If you go on any -- is not telling you five you know reminding them really don't think they -- they came -- You're donating to charity your -- yeah."
" Such a great story that's such a great. Revenue model for. -- developers out there there may be under the same kind of restriction. For the game companies are working or maybe they have this little simple idea. On there's an example revenue model. The game out there meaning I'm making money off of them right but -- you -- your idea right. Stevie came out there and your help. Helping felt like --"
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" Good right. The other -- not the biggest Beatles fan I. Wanted to use The Beatles -- and the -- started in familiar with some of songs that I don't know --"
" What they're hearing from a lot of people like almost universally as you've you've -- latest gaming you don't realize. Like how many Sarkozy actually go did you find yourself today."
" I know a lot of the songs but I don't know them well I -- I don't know the lyrics of a lot of you know like the bridge the -- You don't know the rest of -- totally that a guy like hey I'd see the name of the town night. I don't think barely know this song and Michael Hart the -- plan that -- But then I'd play an index like totally knows song sounds oh so familiar."
" Roxanne if it's it was a kind of pushed us. Great gains and it's getting differences play this one yeah more so than ever because everybody -- steals everybody's gonna find the one song on there they all like I."
" Dean is perfect for about hard court yeah. I love you fans and I am and Austin people's right now mind you know and because McCain is -- it's away where do you actually -- progression and do there are different like types as you say -- and the progression of their career."
" It's like just all in about your mind somewhere -- click on that is ridiculous but cards for nearly as you are but it -- It just surprised home midi songs they've made it's. And all hits and you know them."
" I don't. Every record high I know all these songs like I love The Beatles. And as a tribute game I think this is a really wonderful tributes. I just don't think it's a very good rock band game. -- going to be easy to place -- around about this -- is that it doesn't have everything you know it's it's it's -- fifty songs -- the size 45 songs. Which is no. If you buy there's like this. So many Beatles songs that you kind of wish they had developed in Italy has 45 songs like after rock -- wanna -- just inundated us with all these different tracks and Guitar -- five that -- 95 -- suddenly -- here's 45 sons. And there's another record coming out you're gonna to April that if Iraq being a -- Beatles and think you're gonna want these albums -- I don't know what it feels like they're trying to. Cheating to get TV's 45 songs like of course you're gonna want these other albums like YouTube bought The Beatles rock band."
" It's hard to please everybody -- course there's songs and I wish there and it's. And other people are happy with the set list of their songs they would want that I would really care about so I like that the deal c.s are so far and an extreme odds are coming out at month. Stands and he got -- read next month sergeant -- her and her -- And so that they think it's it's pleasing everybody then just slowly."
" I remember playing rock band two and it would take days just to get through every song and that you have to play each song streets -- like. They it's kind of more like the original rock band where you didn't get a choice on what songs you think you have to play from the beginning to the end dad. But all -- you get after unlocking each of those and uses them the chance Doug simply through those again and let you can -- for the entire game in three hours and all the songs on blocks from the beginning to regain precious. Necessary yeah. Seven at last one. He can keep ending is so disappointing to me how do you have beaten and people look at -- on like a spoiler if you have not made as the NB a and that is actually just the investigation go from golden slumber."
" Staring out -- and DNY CD I was. I mean Andy animation is gorgeous it went at the end -- that's what they're gonna put the -- I -- Eagles on -- the -- free songs really go together and then it was just click the drum solo and our faces just fell."
" Every Guitar Hero song ends with -- you know huge over the twenty minutes song and that's like how many like real business."
" Style because that was amazing -- the backgrounds are -- is what you did. So get -- like. I just wanted to stop playing in light. Watch it I'm going to have to set -- session inside where. I'm not playing the game just like -- and watch the -- so that is run from chapter in chat adoration grab -- this crazy dad."
" I never seen be opening video until actually Saddam was playing games. And I was blown away by how beautiful it was and how they did such a good job of showing like you said the progression of The Beatles Dhani Harrison was. Help to work on not so that's why they have like. The little UCC back home win. The Beatles because I'm paerson was helping them."
" So this harmony is now as long as someone singing the Blue Line the main track. Then anyone else can you see any of the other harmonies and it's not gonna have -- dealer you know this you have to -- because of a man I think that kind of freedom. It's what I've been waiting for Iraq and I like singing most. And I also always an easy because. I don't ever wanna sell out tonight don't like how restrictive and as it makes you know you have seen exactly the way that they want you saying there's no you probably know Hartman harmonizing none of that. In any other offense -- The ability -- like ships around and seeing whichever part of the song I wanna sing in a year's time is kind of refer."
" I've played the drums -- and one thing and this is two in the Phil's just. Kind of being creative for that short moment in time to throw whatever I want. But then again I cannot understand because they don't want me to destroy you know you're not bettors believe so no I'm not better than Ringo."
" Imus have you guys been with Guitar -- five that there -- two things that they introduced into backing that's I -- really like to see in the -- Beatles. One of them is the ability to play any instrument you want if you wanna have two people playing guitar you can do that didn't hear rock band Beatles still forcing you to go got a guitar bass drums Mike and also they still have those three strikes throughout failing. Chris Guitar Hero five has you can strike out as many times you want as long as everyone else is -- well it's gonna bring them back."
" Can they do what Novell mud like right up at the front right when you're using your instruments they shot the moon ninety harmonics we use the band that. You know anyone would want to get as the if you're ever gonna do like solo one man. Rock band product and he couldn't beat the Eagles as the as a as -- choice and it almost makes any choice that they do after that any other band kind of it's like yeah we we already got the beatles' -- that would been now I would say in death aren't there any other bands and he's thinking could have their own game sites Led Zeppelin is there any -- that merits that I think the next and that they can do that would actually make people go wild isn't the only unit. And it would like go plug and notes yeah."
" I'm not quite so hard court yes Daniel I'm currently being close your eyes yeah. But I I didn't play as music users like obviously you guys have and I need to know for advice -- is alive so to snap an event like a half replace sounds sounds sounds like -- Jimmy is all about just a music from the I was so excited to see The Beatles and I love that music so much that he did it occur to me like comparing it to other products because. It's almost like for -- is no computers she's been bugging me about Keating rock band -- you really don't -- sort of like. I don't know that clutter in my house for a game I'm never gonna play but now it's like yeah bring it on ice controlling it and they get tired and it's all just go to the music it's."
" You're comparing it to another music games and it does have some issues but IA also -- viewed as a standalone that The Beatles tribute -- fans. It is fantastic plus."
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" Video game has ever done I totally agree bike before that people -- said that they felt that the arbiter story -- with some of the better story time evicted because you know it actually -- characters."
" Instead like all these different dimensions of them and like this one. Just added that little back story clips that they do and then playing to the other guys -- your -- story I can't think tells less cohesive story and it doesn't have some big."
" Leader like you're trying to follow it what the strengthening or anything I that is like."
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" And it's called somewhat pacing previously. Everybody's seen about how you do you go -- you find an object. And it goes into because into the story about how that object ended up that way. And it's it's it's almost like you're looking at the memory of the object cents."
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" There's an open world environment where you experience as the rookie -- I think they're really good job with the providing incentives to its two explored as."
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" Stuff flying overseas. Is that you had old style of game play and every went into one of the nation's early in the days that would squad needs to go hopefully if we feel everything in between. Right I mean if they're still it's still very much and it's like me. Traditionally on him I mean like -- like when in the holy trinity they would have it forget the thinking of grenades guns and neatly taxes then that."
" And it's still very much -- ran those three things. But when you're playing the rookie it's almost like I was one -- because they do -- kind of sometimes. They encourage you to that. That dot combat that time again they give you a lot of buildings you can actually run in and out of and you can just work your way out of combat but at times. It's not like that and all like you're still very much like. One guy who's just gonna take on multiple -- I mean and still they still managed to make you feel like the master -- and if you're not yet anyway. You."
" a question about it would maybe you're not the masters you you don't rely on -- packs be regenerated Al. Does that kind of back in the game play and negatively at all it's basically the -- because like everything they -- stamina this time. In your screen gets more -- more -- divorced him and you lose. And and what you used to examine it that you start losing their health they might as well just call a sealed you know okay because it works the exact same."
" And it -- health effects. Always conveniently left field almost never like -- At least on her which is likely to -- you. You know nearly other differences between -- I can't hold certain weapons -- like. You can't do wield the plasma rifles and but just little things like that but yet it's a lot of like. Spartan laser and the other big weapon. He can still look for -- no problems there -- do -- and tonight he's not completely. I think aliens are calling him at all in this jumped from like anything I'd -- second story -- things like stamina. That team that is. There are little things -- to consider."
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" Yeah I kinda wish and that same thing that they've made more use of darkness they were -- like -- darkness you can get right up on someone but it would be like he had the same thing other times where all of a sudden. I would. Get him get closer and an alternate way out and just like -- like I really I really felt like double still element when you're pulling it. A lot. I don't see it better it's more like yet one more. I'll put some extent I still wish that they played at me being able to easily spot. Yeah that -- in my mind and when you stick the live action extending commercials that. It was me to think like that his two surviving these crazy things at them according to working -- yet and in this not only are usually by itself but even when -- paired up with one guy. It's not like he's saying like you do this by snipe them hurting like that's just like -- right and it is my opinion -- let him tickets and a firewall you render and -- thing. Yes I haven't -- I it would have been cool they -- added some new way of feeling like something -- they never really capitalized in my opinion. On that feeling odious dearly that special forces that's right really made it seem like big Matthews and yet do so there you real advantage of silence."
" The signs pistols a lot more powerful than the older missiles were like. Like especially in part by you don't you would he like went to take down -- whenever there's one had so that no matter anyway. So it's like that you -- for guns which due to kill anyone. I grant that it is there really left I would -- is one of that I kept on netted just hospital and I didn't want. What was fortunately shortcomings it happened in the singles players. I I think it's a relatively minor yet and they still is like in my opinion that's. It is the best -- story that picture and I -- I mean clearly everyone has bias right and I'm a little bit about it because."
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" Firefighters something a lot of people look at it as like one -- And it wouldn't really matter I. I can easily see firefight. Being that the involvement in it yet your friends think that. The fiscal had a fireplace actually makes it that much better than -- you know I mean. It's got like court for halo you're living as a pack partnering craft as a very rather than like being stuck in one spot there's -- cover so you might as -- outward about that you just. I don't think the fastest thing you of course the longer you play the -- to fire -- that more schools or happening one time. -- Tough luck catch a black guy all. And there's one weird. -- these are pretty happy having you added a couple jet packs through accident maybe keeping with the gravity amber. And she gets crazy really quick."
" In this you have pipes that that you learned is that teams -- round after round. It also makes it a lot more dramatic when you're like down so like nothing as far as -- goes and there's like that one person and now they've finished around. And they get like -- hero."
" The strategy to totally NAFTA and especially because some of the maps it was lost platoon in these vehicles. Choppers going around the truck just come in and a drop rates. And so it's the defense strategy and -- sensitivity down to get the Spartan laser and he stays in this central building. Am waiting for them to drop agree that this partly that the right -- and there's another map where it takes place in the and a computer for. And it's essentially you know. Two levels here -- levels here with bridges going between them so you're constantly going up and down it's really confusing but it's very senior these very act."
" And some of the maps are just. The same maps. Night and it yet but that actually makes a huge difference it does use them by their very -- basically it and think he's he surprised me that is a little short at least on her I mean like I don't think -- astounding games that you know to six hours to -- Click campaign. Then on top of that I easily spend even just their five hours playing yet I mean if you wanna get the achievement for level you're basically gonna have to live for 45 minutes prior. And then on top of that you get all Halo 3 multiplayer separatist it's a good thing for me I'm liking it together but -- something else like to think that the exciting -- you -- that I mean you know I actually it's the best -- single player campaign today."
" Yes and firefighters were all the lasting power is going to be for me right I would think for a lot of people out there that aren't avid. Halo competitive multiplayer people --"
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Started discussion: September 22, 2009 @ 2:14pm GMT
Episode 214 - Swine Flu Containment Unit [Discussion]
Jason and Matt stop by the XNA's Indie Games booth to chat with Microsoft's Kathleen Sanders and we review the Fall's first blockbusters: Halo 3: ODST and Beatles Rock Band
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Hectos
about 1 month ago
Great show...was it your plan to sync up scenes with Heros?
Zabusan
about 1 month ago
Oh man, it was great to see Kathleen again, it brought a smile to my face, so you guys must have been stoked!!
Great episode as always...Keep it coming guys...
Great episode as always...Keep it coming guys...
bjkrautk
about 1 month ago
Always nice to see Shoe and Kathleen.
I liked that your TB:RB segment started with Ryan saying he's not really a Beatles fan, since seemingly every other review I've seen give the appearance that every music fan loves the Beatles. Unfortunately, aside from talking about the vocals, his opinions don't come through much in the segment.
I liked that your TB:RB segment started with Ryan saying he's not really a Beatles fan, since seemingly every other review I've seen give the appearance that every music fan loves the Beatles. Unfortunately, aside from talking about the vocals, his opinions don't come through much in the segment.
darecrow
about 1 month ago
What's with the missing segment annotations? the little white dots that we usually see? I watched this episode when it came out, and went to re-view it today and still nothing.
Mumrik
about 1 month ago
With all due respect - you really can't record a commercial for H3:ODST with a member of the crew as the actor(s), and then review the game afterwards.
I know your work from the 1UP days, so I know that you wouldn't compromise the review, but even then it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I know your work from the 1UP days, so I know that you wouldn't compromise the review, but even then it left a bad taste in my mouth.











