Hollywood 2.0: Use the Web To Make Your Movie
Tuesday, November 18th, 2008 running time 10:37
This week we're wondering who our new enemy should be! And somewhat ironically, we are also looking at ways that social media can unite people. Howard Stern thinks blogging is for losers, Ze Frank is trying to bring together red states and blue states, and the FU of the Week is delivered by a filmmaker using the web to bring people together to crowd-fund her new movie. All that, plus an artist named Mr. Brainwash. What more could you need?
FU of the Week:
Jessica Stover
Music Video Spotlight:
Sleepyhead by Passion Pit
Artist of the Week:
Mr. Brainwash / MBW
Campfire: Is Crowd-Funding a Sustainable Alternative to the Hollywood Studio System?
Post a video response!
T-Shirt Mashup:
This week's mashup by Kristen!
Who Should Our New Enemy Be?
Email us!
Show Links:
- Ze Frank's "From 52 to 48 With Love" Project
- Howard Stern on social media
- Gary Vaynerchuk
- Photo of Internet's Martin Sargent (his Wikipedia page)
- Meet In Between
- My Biggest Complaint
- YouTube Live event on Nov. 22nd
- Infinite Bubblewrap
- Infinite Unwrapping
- Smithsonian purchasing Shepard Fairey's Obama fine art portrait
Discussion Roundup:
If You Could Change One Thing In Your Life, What Would It Be?
Featured Fans and MIX Members:
Credits Video:
Want You Back by The Mighty Underdogs
Motion Graphics:
Eden Soto
Title Music:
Doc Popular
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Highlights
Howard Stern
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0:42, 0:42
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United Nations
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8:09, 8:09
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cook food
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5:13, 5:13
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New York
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3:38, 3:38
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Howard Stern
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0:42, 0:42
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United Nations
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8:09, 8:09
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cook food
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5:13, 5:13
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New York
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3:38, 3:38
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Automatically Generated Transcript(may not be 100% accurate) ( more )
" This epithet that sponsored by the US air force and GoDaddy. Hey I got an audience that. We're less than we -- happy with presidential election and in the country is already moving closer together argued -- don't you better be happening out there on the they friend that erstwhile creative genius started the front 52 to 48 with love project. Which encourages US post election unit UNC. Finally Obama campaign look there. They're outstanding. Use social media outlet unfortunately. The king of all media Howard Stern thinks that all social media is a waste of time."
" I think it's -- waste of time I think if you roll over the age of sixteen should going to. These people blog entry took everything in your license and isn't part."
" Provoked a response from our friend Gary Vaynerchuk who built why library TV -- with the apple -- using social media. And its. And -- general. -- I think Howard -- I get people talking and writing a lot those workers. Guaranteed to get it got a problem -- There's supposed to be evil mastermind of the operation. I can't Clinton in my -- can I am. Now though I hit with because we're about to wade into the deep she. -- and happiness through look at. How -- Internet Martin's part. Oprah. What do you think. The -- and calm -- out all worked up. You gotta find middle ground and that goes for everything including geography and the meat in between and -- little Google maps mashup you can find place the -- not in the middle of two luckiest. Problem -- think they're they're here. Here here here here he think Clinton. You're you're seeing there and not the compromise unless you're an uncompromising higher like oh for a unlike. In about deep in the fine at my biggest complaint dot com you can -- it all out all the people politics product's appeal let cart name that could do you think that's not that it -- quality about it going on there what better way to bring people together -- live show the -- that you -- company got its start from mainstream media out of and and other Internet and in the media landscape of media and -- elect the next story. Look at look at that that. I don't think we're supposed to understand. Let's move along instant news -- shepherd very poster of Obama may be on its way to the Smithsonian -- to protect blog is reporting that the Smithsonian is trying to -- 75000 dollars the purchase the fine art version of shepherd theories Obama portrait talk about hope that that's aren't important but. Going to be and that it house. Or at least the second war. And under such that the street art art artists the week is mister rain loss and VW as a filmmaker paint your street artist. You need it if you were walking around New York at all -- also on the network plastered on walls fences. Big thing that that it for all the domain name Coca. Registered meaning their private domain registration keeps on into the public the unity and away from spammers -- and cook food let me check out and get an additional 10% opulent higher order the port epic. And save money would offer air keep the Internet act yeah."
" Air force space program he's."
" Equivalent to NASA's size and scope and most cases mark of the shuttle launches about it once a month and I've got real launches here in the next thirty days so you want to be in the space program the report --"
" and bringing people together using what does not protect you. And meant a lot of the fact people contribute at high -- Actually happening. This week the -- finger is being served by. Over a filmmaker when you think about funding -- make a film and circumvent and Hollywood idiot but yeah. -- filmmaker whose most recent project is -- and it turned out the bit about what that."
" The overall project is across platform phone I'd pack but that means is that we have an online access and that's -- project front and I think its opposite now. And what's neat about the project visit the first ever community -- on both the bit about what art and its -- and I went back yeah and constantly I want I want you on these mean now that to me this story is. Really about the limitations that the cited as an individual to -- but I don't -- it's an apology but it. It it's of the modern and you you're talking before that you come here to practice now. -- cast -- what you do here obviously you got an uncanny agenda that I just immediately but everybody country -- like a year ago. It's like now we have no excuse not to be like really -- it's not very crowded. Since it and it's nice is actually funny since they keep it free very well this where archery and my love. And I -- I don't and it you know and needs may that have a very romantic view which I think it's time. -- As long as you're willing to build a business and he should it be is that even in Europe are -- doubt. White hair and on and you know you. -- and how many people -- working on him. An actual location through and gets 45. And work with brag about on site update within the community -- out late. 200. Nineteen. Because the latest. We -- when men what is that exactly. As it went to insure it. The -- weather at the dollar or 6000 dollars that we -- dean. A bit -- there's and that's. And you'll see these for the white and other like that and the public moving well right now it's only the actual plan. -- central let's say it can be happier about it on the -- actually agree that the queen Hamachi that is when -- need with that so what has the 40000 dollar mark on on that and that the thousand dollars mostly the donations are United Nations. Actually. -- I don't -- this blank space. And beyond the -- a lot of assault I have to build lake infrastructure. Around power making what will happen to the online community -- you blocking them aren't. Thinking about the possible they always popping as. Kind of spread the word share this story and that's what would be great is just like we've got a little bit at comic -- on get me warned them that talent and I really like to go around and meet people very tactile it's -- very easy to get really okay with and -- innings package. The great time to come in but. At the beginning -- and it's like a black ramp and those early swingman Casey on the at the beginning I mean they -- the biggest leaps of faith. I can't wait like and it's everything is how to be like for have a monument people who. I visionary and willing to back it up and get involved night. You know. Do a little bit to create a lot hopefully something people recognize it can be applied to their local communities -- it isn't just as a way of life and -- it."
" Art and turn the pretty groundbreaking project as always you can find out more about it and Jessica on Epic -- blog fill our topic. It definitely got me thinking about community supported project. Do you think about finding a sustainable alternative to the hall with you and post the video response and I personally think we might not count recently we asked you can change one thing about your life what would it be well we got a bunch of responses. Highest Medicaid would change his relationships with women and that she would stand up for now more spoke with B wouldn't change anything at all if he doesn't have at it let's. And -- and I noticed that almost everything we want to change that actually happen within our power in okay that fit remember that and that the email I'll figure out our new enemy. Until next week I'll be eating the feed and currently that act on --"
" This epithet that sponsored by the US air force and GoDaddy. Hey I got an audience that. We're less than we -- happy with presidential election and in the country is already moving closer together argued -- don't you better be happening out there on the they friend that erstwhile creative genius started the front 52 to 48 with love project. Which encourages US post election unit UNC. Finally Obama campaign look there. They're outstanding. Use social media outlet unfortunately. The king of all media Howard Stern thinks that all social media is a waste of time."
" I think it's -- waste of time I think if you roll over the age of sixteen should going to. These people blog entry took everything in your license and isn't part."
" Provoked a response from our friend Gary Vaynerchuk who built why library TV -- with the apple -- using social media. And its. And -- general. -- I think Howard -- I get people talking and writing a lot those workers. Guaranteed to get it got a problem -- There's supposed to be evil mastermind of the operation. I can't Clinton in my -- can I am. Now though I hit with because we're about to wade into the deep she. -- and happiness through look at. How -- Internet Martin's part. Oprah. What do you think. The -- and calm -- out all worked up. You gotta find middle ground and that goes for everything including geography and the meat in between and -- little Google maps mashup you can find place the -- not in the middle of two luckiest. Problem -- think they're they're here. Here here here here he think Clinton. You're you're seeing there and not the compromise unless you're an uncompromising higher like oh for a unlike. In about deep in the fine at my biggest complaint dot com you can -- it all out all the people politics product's appeal let cart name that could do you think that's not that it -- quality about it going on there what better way to bring people together -- live show the -- that you -- company got its start from mainstream media out of and and other Internet and in the media landscape of media and -- elect the next story. Look at look at that that. I don't think we're supposed to understand. Let's move along instant news -- shepherd very poster of Obama may be on its way to the Smithsonian -- to protect blog is reporting that the Smithsonian is trying to -- 75000 dollars the purchase the fine art version of shepherd theories Obama portrait talk about hope that that's aren't important but. Going to be and that it house. Or at least the second war. And under such that the street art art artists the week is mister rain loss and VW as a filmmaker paint your street artist. You need it if you were walking around New York at all -- also on the network plastered on walls fences. Big thing that that it for all the domain name Coca. Registered meaning their private domain registration keeps on into the public the unity and away from spammers -- and cook food let me check out and get an additional 10% opulent higher order the port epic. And save money would offer air keep the Internet act yeah."
" Air force space program he's."
" Equivalent to NASA's size and scope and most cases mark of the shuttle launches about it once a month and I've got real launches here in the next thirty days so you want to be in the space program the report --"
" and bringing people together using what does not protect you. And meant a lot of the fact people contribute at high -- Actually happening. This week the -- finger is being served by. Over a filmmaker when you think about funding -- make a film and circumvent and Hollywood idiot but yeah. -- filmmaker whose most recent project is -- and it turned out the bit about what that."
" The overall project is across platform phone I'd pack but that means is that we have an online access and that's -- project front and I think its opposite now. And what's neat about the project visit the first ever community -- on both the bit about what art and its -- and I went back yeah and constantly I want I want you on these mean now that to me this story is. Really about the limitations that the cited as an individual to -- but I don't -- it's an apology but it. It it's of the modern and you you're talking before that you come here to practice now. -- cast -- what you do here obviously you got an uncanny agenda that I just immediately but everybody country -- like a year ago. It's like now we have no excuse not to be like really -- it's not very crowded. Since it and it's nice is actually funny since they keep it free very well this where archery and my love. And I -- I don't and it you know and needs may that have a very romantic view which I think it's time. -- As long as you're willing to build a business and he should it be is that even in Europe are -- doubt. White hair and on and you know you. -- and how many people -- working on him. An actual location through and gets 45. And work with brag about on site update within the community -- out late. 200. Nineteen. Because the latest. We -- when men what is that exactly. As it went to insure it. The -- weather at the dollar or 6000 dollars that we -- dean. A bit -- there's and that's. And you'll see these for the white and other like that and the public moving well right now it's only the actual plan. -- central let's say it can be happier about it on the -- actually agree that the queen Hamachi that is when -- need with that so what has the 40000 dollar mark on on that and that the thousand dollars mostly the donations are United Nations. Actually. -- I don't -- this blank space. And beyond the -- a lot of assault I have to build lake infrastructure. Around power making what will happen to the online community -- you blocking them aren't. Thinking about the possible they always popping as. Kind of spread the word share this story and that's what would be great is just like we've got a little bit at comic -- on get me warned them that talent and I really like to go around and meet people very tactile it's -- very easy to get really okay with and -- innings package. The great time to come in but. At the beginning -- and it's like a black ramp and those early swingman Casey on the at the beginning I mean they -- the biggest leaps of faith. I can't wait like and it's everything is how to be like for have a monument people who. I visionary and willing to back it up and get involved night. You know. Do a little bit to create a lot hopefully something people recognize it can be applied to their local communities -- it isn't just as a way of life and -- it."
" Art and turn the pretty groundbreaking project as always you can find out more about it and Jessica on Epic -- blog fill our topic. It definitely got me thinking about community supported project. Do you think about finding a sustainable alternative to the hall with you and post the video response and I personally think we might not count recently we asked you can change one thing about your life what would it be well we got a bunch of responses. Highest Medicaid would change his relationships with women and that she would stand up for now more spoke with B wouldn't change anything at all if he doesn't have at it let's. And -- and I noticed that almost everything we want to change that actually happen within our power in okay that fit remember that and that the email I'll figure out our new enemy. Until next week I'll be eating the feed and currently that act on --"
mari1ee
Started discussion: November 19, 2008 @ 9:51am GMT
Episode 140 - Hollywood 2.0: Use the Web To Make Your Movie [Discussion]
This week we're wondering who our new enemy should be! And somewhat ironically, we are also looking at ways that social media can unite people. Howard Stern thinks blogging is for losers, Ze Frank is trying to bring together red states and blue states, and the FU of the Week is delivered by a filmmaker using the web to bring people together to crowd-fund her new movie. All that, plus an artist named Mr. Brainwash. What more could you need?
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The answer is mostly HHHEEEeeeelllll no! haha I am sorry to say but unless you are already a credible filmmaker/actor/producer that most people using the internet already know or have a genuine cause I don't believe people are going to donate. You MAY get something but it'll almost be pointless.
The young filmmaker in this past episode (Jessica Stover) claims shes already received 40 grand toward a 150,000 dollar budget. That is really something great and what she is doing with the creation of a forum and interactive fan base is great but I generally subscribe to a forum AFTER I see whatever it is there is to talk about (that was a tongue twister).
It also depends on the kind of movie being made. I think its safe to say that crowd sourcing would be most effective toward a documentary that investigates a topic people are passionate about.
Example:
John Smith is making a film about the discoloration of dandelions = donation of a ZERO
Al Gore is making a documentary about the Human Genome Project = donation of 100 bucks.
Crowd sourcing would also be more effective if people received something in return. Perhaps an honorable mention in the credits or some sort of simple royalty on an investment over X amount of dollars.
In regard to Howard Stern and his view on anyone over 15 blogging... I half agree and half disagree. I am a twitter user and I used to have a blog of stuff I thought was cool. I realized after using google analytics I had little to no pageviews... People don't care. Truthfully, I don't usually care either about the average joe. I wanna read about the kind of tea Kevin Rose is making or if Veronica Belmont got a new shirt because those are the people I feel most comfy around and inspired by.
On the flip side, however, I DID just put up a blog about a road trip I took across America. Even though I am pretty average (though in my head I friggin rock) this is something that is a dream for most people so I wanted to share it. If you are blogging about a niche topic and have something unique to say i say GO FOR IT! If you are using tumblr to promote your own personal daily musings I say don't waste your time.
Anyways this was my first ep of epic in a few weeks and Its safe to say that I felt like I was on an awesome version of geeky speed! Love it Zadi! Keep doing your thing! (and keep your job at rev3 also please... if you can help it... I miss my Sarah Lane)
Ahhh fuck it... Ill plug that blog I was talking about. Supertrip.tumblr.com
--Darrin