Journeyman Discussion

[hbd]

Did anyone watch it? Thoughts? I liked it, but I wasn't sure about it until the end.


*SPOILERS*








I loved that last scene so much that I know I'll be into this show until it's invariably cancelled 6 weeks from now. His wife soundly asleep, the camera pushes in tight as he's sitting in his chair, completely dressed, jacket and all, not letting himself fall asleep so he's ready for the next "jump."

Loved it, and I want to know what's going on.

[lavahot]

Meh, I bet the cause of his time jumps is something lame, like god, or magic. There were two things I noticed: it is almost exactly like Quantum Leap, except Al's a girl, and it's an iPhone commercial.

[eon1713]

I was thinking the same thing. This is very similar to Quantum Leap, I kept looking so a Sam Beckett Cameo. Anyways, even though it is similar I don't necessarily think that is a bad thing. I liked Quantum Leap a lot and I feel this series will be just as good. I have similar concerns about the origins of his powers but I like the premise. I also think that having a past romantic interest involved adds a very interesting dynamic. If he tells Isabella to not get on the plane then his future son may never be born. Needless to say, I will be watching this next week.

[gi_josh]

I was intrigued. The last scene definitely hooked me, until then I was on the fence. Don't get me wrong, it was a good premise, but I'm worried the concept is already too muddled and confusing for most folks. I think this show will go the way of the Black Donnellys and get canceled soon because it is far too heady, but man, those are gonna be a few good weeks, huh?

[jimithing]

Yeah I was mostly enjoying it, then at the end it got me hook line and sinker.

[iggystar]

"I always come home." That sealed the deal for me to watch another episode, however, the comparison to Quantum Leap is distractingly strong. I know that all concepts are basically rehashes, but this one mirroed QL a bit too much.

But I liked the actors and will tune in to see more.

[deegraww]

Man I feel like a total Tard now. I watched Chuck (it wasn't as bad as I was thinking it was going to be) then recorded Heroes and Journeyman. I'm looking forward to watching it tonight.

[magunwarrior]

I watched the beginning, but I got into something so I recorded it.

I'll post some impressions later.

[gglynn00]

Well, is there anything wrong with it being like Quantum Leap? I say there is not...Of course in Quantum Leap there was always a nice ending...In this show the end was a "good" ending but it took something crazy to make it good...Sorry to speak in subtle tones, but I'm trying not to spoil it for those I can see haven't watched it...But like I said in other posts before the show aired, I like the concept b/c he does get to come back to the present and see the product of his work...I posed the question in earlier posts that what if he saves a guy who turns out to be a serial killer? Of course, in episode one, BAM, that kinda happens...I find it to be good so far and the ending was EPIC, I thought the show would take longer for him to prove to someone that he's legit...

[jonathand-gordon]

This show was Amazing. After a so-so heroes it felt great to watch this show. Stop comparing it to quantum leap. This is so far from that. Its no closer than back to the future is to sliders. Thats like saying all cop shows are the same. This show is so different. I like that they cast the guy from Homicide as his brother. They look a lot alike.

Chuck was so good. The whole time I am sitting there thinking what did the TRS guys not get about this. It is QUALITY, FUNNY action show.

[bredrenised]

like most it was the ending that just completely has me hooked!

I hate the fact that this is so going to get canceled. Ending was Epic!

I loved it even more because well, "Thirteenth!" for all those that watched Rome.

[jonathand-gordon]

Well, is there anything wrong with it being like Quantum Leap? I say there is not...Of course in Quantum Leap there was always a nice ending...In this show the end was a "good" ending but it took something crazy to make it good...Sorry to speak in subtle tones, but I'm trying not to spoil it for those I can see haven't watched it...But like I said in other posts before the show aired, I like the concept b/c he does get to come back to the present and see the product of his work...I posed the question in earlier posts that what if he saves a guy who turns out to be a serial killer? Of course, in episode one, BAM, that kinda happens...I find it to be good so far and the ending was EPIC, I thought the show would take longer for him to prove to someone that he's legit...

Alright , I am going to say it that ending was more than EPIC. It sounds hokie but that ending was Powerful, Gripping, it was everything an ending to an episode needs to be.

[iggystar]

This show was Amazing. After a so-so heroes it felt great to watch this show. Stop comparing it to quantum leap. This is so far from that. Its no closer than back to the future is to sliders. Thats like saying all cop shows are the same. This show is so different. I like that they cast the guy from Homicide as his brother. They look a lot alike.

Chuck was so good. The whole time I am sitting there thinking what did the TRS guys not get about this. It is QUALITY, FUNNY action show.

Ok, I know that there aren't any truly original concepts in the universe anymore, but to say "stop comparing it to Quantum Leap...it's not closer than Back to the Future is to Sliders". Sorry, I'll have to disagree.

The show's premise mirrors Quantum Leap, a little too closely IMO. Not to say it isn't a good show. Not to say that the story won't branch out, but for now it's very similar. It's not just time travel, it's about a man who travels to fix a small, seemingly insignificant event in time...mysteriously, without his control, but with a seeming purpose. That makes it a little more different than Sliders or BTTF and alot closer to QL.

I still have hope that it's going be worthwhile viewing, the aspect of this Journeyman having a family connection might be a fresh perspective to keep me interested.

[gglynn00]

Alright , I am going to say it that ending was more than EPIC. It sounds hokie but that ending was Powerful, Gripping, it was everything an ending to an episode needs to be.

Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only one that felt that way...I think the ending gives a lot of credit to the writers to say, "Hey, we're going to do this show different, we're going to throw it all out there, no mysteries, no characters coming to the island..." Oops, wrong show. But I feel that I can compare and contrast it to Lost b/c it did what Lost didn't, it set the rules from day one, show one. The writers are fine with characters on the show knowing that he thinks that he travels through time. Plus, I'm sure there is more material to write about his family wondering if he's on smack than the main character hiding his ability. Which brings back to the ending...How cool was it that he proved to her that he wasn't nuts/cheating/doped up.(hopefully)

[hbd]

The show's premise mirrors Quantum Leap, a little too closely IMO.

A couple ways that it differs largely from Quantum Leap is that his family and friends think he's a drugged-up adulterer, and when he 'jumps' he doesn't inhabit the body of chubby 13-year-old Melissa and try to make her into the most popular girl in the school.

[gi_josh]

I thought it was amazing that the whole episode, you think that a large theme of the show is going to be him constantly fighting to make his family believe him, and then at the end, boom, he suddenly has an ally in the craziness. It was an amazing feeling, and I'm glad they bucked what I thought was going to be a large and predictable plot line so early on.

[kilroyperrywinkle]

Don't read this if you haven't seen the show.





Talk about one of those "Jeff Moments" that make a thing worth watching... I mean they really make the guy "real" but throwing that ending into it. I mean here's a normal guy who's smart, but no genius, trying to come to grips with something so supernatural and what does he do?

EXACTLY WHAT ANYONE WOULD ACTUALLY DO!

Not hide it for no reason.

Not get angry and do something overly dramatic.

Not alienate his family.

You take the rules of the universe he's in and let the character use his brain.

Genius.

Loved it.

[tokenuser]

The show's premise mirrors Quantum Leap, a little too closely IMO. Not to say it isn't a good show. Not to say that the story won't branch out, but for now it's very similar. It's not just time travel, it's about a man who travels to fix a small, seemingly insignificant event in time...mysteriously, without his control, but with a seeming purpose. That makes it a little more different than Sliders or BTTF and alot closer to QL.Have to agree with you. I was thinking QL as well more than the others. Unlike QL though, he jumps along a timeline and makes corrections along the way to get to the final goal. QL was one major change the had to be corrected (and potential minor ones - love the "haunted house" QL episode where the kid that was hanging around was Stevie, had a big dog called Cujo, and his mom drove a car that looked a hellova lot like Christine).

[valoharth]

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Don't read this if you haven't seen the show.





Talk about one of those "Jeff Moments" that make a thing worth watching... I mean they really make the guy "real" but throwing that ending into it. I mean here's a normal guy who's smart, but no genius, trying to come to grips with something so supernatural and what does he do?

EXACTLY WHAT ANYONE WOULD ACTUALLY DO!

Not hide it for no reason.

Not get angry and do something overly dramatic.

Not alienate his family.

You take the rules of the universe he's in and let the character use his brain.

Genius.

Loved it.

That was the first thing I noticed about it!

this show imo is Quantum Leap meets lost with a bit of Dead Like Me for flavoring. I say Dead Like Me because its obvious that there are more then just him traveling in time fixing things making time right. The Lost comes in because they are going to try and keep how or why he is traveling back a secret.

Even though the show is a clear rip off of Quantum Leap, whats going to make it stand out is how the deal with the main Character exploring his rules. Is some one going to appear in the next episode and give him a list of rules that he has to follow or is he going to have to figure out that if he does something other then what he is there to do,will it have dire consequence? I'm really excited and I don't think this show will go anywhere just yet, its going to stick around because people will see that its like QL and then just get hooked because they want to know whats going on.

[iggystar]

Have to agree with you. I was thinking QL as well more than the others. Unlike QL though, he jumps along a timeline and makes corrections along the way to get to the final goal. QL was one major change the had to be corrected (and potential minor ones - love the "haunted house" QL episode where the kid that was hanging around was Stevie, had a big dog called Cujo, and his mom drove a car that looked a hellova lot like Christine).

You get me Token. Not that the show wasn't good, but the similarity in concept, despite the obvious differences (as if I've never seen Quantum Leap...hey, I know what it's about), makes for a minor distraction for me.

I'm really into time travel sci-fi of all kinds, so I can make room for another viewpoint based on this theme. I'm going to give this a wholehearted chance.

[jonathand-gordon]

You get me Token. Not that the show wasn't good, but the similarity in concept, despite the obvious differences (as if I've never seen Quantum Leap...hey, I know what it's about), makes for a minor distraction for me.

I'm really into time travel sci-fi of all kinds, so I can make room for another viewpoint based on this theme. I'm going to give this a wholehearted chance.

Here are 5 Key Differences. More than enough to show that the only thing it has in common with QL is Time traveling to change something I.E. Back to The Future, Time Machine, Time Cop, Sliders.....I can Go on.

1. He does not jump back into other people. (50% 0f the Gimmick behind QL)
2. He is not trying to get back to his time. His wife clearly knows he is time traveling and that he is going to comeback. (the Other 50% of the Gimmick Behing QL)
3. The Creators of journeyman said in Sci- Fi Magazine that they will avoid famous real life historical moments.
4. He doesn't have and assistant with a calculator telling him what he needs to fix (The Whole Supporting Cast to QL)
5. He is in no peril if he doesn't change the event.It doesn't stop him from going back.


That just proves that everything that made Quantum Leap what it was is not in this show. If you still want to say that the show rips off or lifts its plot from QL that means you just cant put your head around two timetravel shows being on television in 20 15 years without having to be the same.lol

[jonathand-gordon]

You get me Token. Not that the show wasn't good, but the similarity in concept, despite the obvious differences (as if I've never seen Quantum Leap...hey, I know what it's about), makes for a minor distraction for me.

I'm really into time travel sci-fi of all kinds, so I can make room for another viewpoint based on this theme. I'm going to give this a wholehearted chance.

Here are 5 Key Differences. More than enough to show that the only thing it has in common with QL is Time traveling to change something I.E. Back to The Future, Time Machine, Time Cop, Sliders.....I can Go on.

1. He does not jump back into other people. (50% 0f the Gimmick behind QL)
2. He is not trying to get back to his time. His wife clearly knows he is time traveling and that he is going to comeback. (the Other 50% of the Gimmick Behing QL)
3. The Creators of journeyman said in Sci- Fi Magazine that they will avoid famous real life historical moments.
4. He doesn't have and assistant with a calculator telling him what he needs to fix (The Whole Supporting Cast to QL)
5. He is in no peril if he doesn't change the event.It doesn't stop him from going back.


That just proves that everything that made Quantum Leap what it was is not in this show. If you still want to say that the show rips off or lifts its plot from QL that means you just cant put your head around two timetravel shows being on television in 20 15 years without having to be the same.lol

[jonathand-gordon]

I am so Glad NBC finally got back on their Game

[iggystar]

Here are 5 Key Differences. More than enough to show that the only thing it has in common with QL is Time traveling to change something I.E. Back to The Future, Time Machine, Time Cop, Sliders.....I can Go on.

1. He does not jump back into other people. (50% 0f the Gimmick behind QL)
2. He is not trying to get back to his time. His wife clearly knows he is time traveling and that he is going to comeback. (the Other 50% of the Gimmick Behing QL)
3. The Creators of journeyman said in Sci- Fi Magazine that they will avoid famous real life historical moments.
4. He doesn't have and assistant with a calculator telling him what he needs to fix (The Whole Supporting Cast to QL)
5. He is in no peril if he doesn't change the event.It doesn't stop him from going back.


That just proves that everything that made Quantum Leap what it was is not in this show. If you still want to say that the show rips off or lifts its plot from QL that means you just cant put your head around two timetravel shows being on television in 20 15 years without having to be the same.lol


First of all, I never said it was a rip off. I said that the concept of the show is similar enough to Quantum Leap to be a distraction TO ME. Don't put words in my mouth, period.

Second, all that you listed are details, the gimmicks. Details I'm fully familiar with, as I mentioned. I watched Quantum Leap and was a fan, so I didn't need it you to break it down to me (and post it twice no less) thank you very much. Just like Marty McFly went back in time in a Delorean...that's a detail. Gimmicks are not what make a good show, they are of secondary importance, IMO. However, the theme of one man, going back in time to help a specific person by some unknown source is what I find common to both shows on a higher level. Sam helping people throughout time is exactly what I found endearing about QL, that's what appears in both series. Quantum Leap was more than about Ziggy or Al these were mere mechanisms for what Sam did. I'm not the only person who has found this show to resemble QL either, mind you.

Did I say I wouldn't watch because of this reason? No. Did I think the premiere was good? Yes. So exactly what is your problem with my opinion?

[buenosdias]

Just watched it on NBC.com and let me tell you it is pretty damn good. I was so surprised and I will watch it as long as it is on. Big episode to live up to. That moving EPIC ending....holy shitballs!

[tokenuser]

For anyone that might have missed it - looks like rescreening of Journeyman on SciFi at 7:00pm Thursday nights.

Why oh why do TimeWarner give us an HD TBS and A&E, but not an HD SciFi.
HD was MADE for SciFi.

[gglynn00]

For anyone that might have missed it - looks like rescreening of Journeyman on SciFi at 7:00pm Thursday nights.

Why oh why do TimeWarner give us an HD TBS and A&E, but not an HD SciFi.
HD was MADE for SciFi.

I agree, but I don't think Time Warner has anything to do with SciFi...I think USA/NBC Paramount owns SciFi...Time Warner owns AOL, TNT, TBS, The Cartoon Network, etc. Just saying. But if it is a matter of broadcast, it still might have a lot to do with who owns what and who the cable provider is. Time Warner wants you to watch TNT/TBS so they offer more HD content...Who doesn't want to see The Shawshank Redemption in HD for eight hours for a 2 1/2 hour movie...(sarcasm). Paramount needs to cough up some dough and pay cable providers to put their shows on in HD

[jimithing]

Here are 5 Key Differences. More than enough to show that the only thing it has in common with QL is Time traveling to change something I.E. Back to The Future, Time Machine, Time Cop, Sliders.....I can Go on.

1. He does not jump back into other people. (50% 0f the Gimmick behind QL)
2. He is not trying to get back to his time. His wife clearly knows he is time traveling and that he is going to comeback. (the Other 50% of the Gimmick Behing QL)
3. The Creators of journeyman said in Sci- Fi Magazine that they will avoid famous real life historical moments.
4. He doesn't have and assistant with a calculator telling him what he needs to fix (The Whole Supporting Cast to QL)
5. He is in no peril if he doesn't change the event.It doesn't stop him from going back.


That just proves that everything that made Quantum Leap what it was is not in this show. If you still want to say that the show rips off or lifts its plot from QL that means you just cant put your head around two timetravel shows being on television in 20 15 years without having to be the same.lol

Couldn't have put it any better myself.

This show is great, for me. Hope to see it have a good run.

[samureye]

So I watched this iPhone commercial the other night on Sci Fi. Was the second episode last night? I missed it and will have to wait for the repeat on Sci Fi. It was an interesting show, and I want to see what is next since it was hella confusing.

[tokenuser]

Who doesn't want to see The Shawshank Redemption in HD for eight hours for a 2 1/2 hour movie...(sarcasm). Paramount needs to cough up some dough and pay cable providers to put their shows on in HDFirstly - Shawshank Redemption should have is own dedicated HD channel.
Secondly - HDNet get a lot of their programming from Paramount and NBC. I have been rewatching Enterprise in HD, and BSG in HD is awesome. I have also "skipped" watching Torchwood on BBCAmerica and now watch it on HDNet in all its surround sound widescreen glory.

Back to Journeyman ... I love how the show is like a game of chess. All the pieces get lined up, but the checkmate comes from an exepected direction.

[godmode]

The second ep of this show was good too. I like that they dont put all the emphasis on the people whose lives he has to save. The show is still very much about him and his family.
Also Moon Bloodgood? what a ****ing RAD name! Also shes hawt.

[jivetrky]

Man, I really like this show! People are kind of putting it down a little bit because it is similar to Quantum Leap....well i think that is a GOOD thing. It takes the basic time travel idea from Quantum Leap but then kind of makes it it's own. And the premise is really different. It's all about him juggling the "Leaps" and his own life and family. I liked the first episode, and the second one had me hooked. I just hope people watch this show! Tell your friends :)

[jimithing]

I like the way things unfolded in the 2nd ep. I really am digging the dynamic between his (dead?) girlfriend and how she seems to be a bit of a guide for him. Did not have a great hook at the end like the first episode did, but still was very good over all.

[jimithing]

This show is indeed rad. It manages to be large and epic, and grand. But at its root its still just about the human condition about what it is to be a person on this crazy planet. To love, and to loose, and to live. I think film is at its best when it does what Journeyman is doing. The universe they have created allows for story telling in the epic, large, grand type of way, but they keep it all grounded by keeping it all about the people and the inner workings of their personal lives, and the dynamics that make up the family unit. This show so, far has got better and I personally look forward to what it can bring us in the future :)

[satori]

I just went back and picked up all the eps that I missed on this, cool show. The thing is that I think this show has a lot more in common with Slaughterhouse 5, except that he has yet to go into the future.

[theluvmuscle]

Man, I really like this show! People are kind of putting it down a little bit because it is similar to Quantum Leap....well i think that is a GOOD thing. It takes the basic time travel idea from Quantum Leap but then kind of makes it it's own. And the premise is really different. It's all about him juggling the "Leaps" and his own life and family. I liked the first episode, and the second one had me hooked. I just hope people watch this show! Tell your friends :)

Well put! I like that it reminds me of Quantum Leap, but definitely has it's own style. Anyone catch the opening scene on episode 3? When he shows up in '89, they scored in an awesomely 80's tune by the B52's... "Roam". And yes, even though I know it's not about the "Eternal City", I got a big kick out of what I assume was a quick homage to Kevin McKidd's staring role in the (far too short-lived) HBO series "Rome."

[milamber_cubed]

I'm enjoying the show so far as well :)

The first episode did a great job at setting up the whole thing and the ending, while cheese-ridden, was enough to get me watching the next episode.

They seem to throw enough interesting stuff in there in each episode to keep you guessing. The phone call while he was in the past was particularly awesome. Can't wait to see how the hell that's going to work out.

The physicist in me was very dubious as soon as the the word "tachyon" was spat out, but I managed to deal with the "simultaneous inverse tachyon pulses" in Star Trek TNG.... we'll see where it goes.

So far so good though.

[cromulent]

Overall I'm really digging this show. Some faults here and there (this episode's main mission wasn't all that interesting) but it's got some great potential. I look forward to this show more than Heroes on the Mondays. NBC is definitely back to form with some good shows. And they stand by the ones that are critically praised but don't do that great in the ratings. I gotta commend NBC for that. Hopefully they will support Journeyman for a while. Not that I'm saying JM is critically acclaimed, but they better still support anyways :)

[tigersharkbas]

I have been following this show and the story is begining to get a little tired for me.

To borrow a phrase from the recent TRS show....the "pay offs" are not coming fast enough..

I was almost going to give up on this show until, in this weeks episode, he gets that call from the professor when he is back in 1998. Now it may start to get interesting.

Anyone have any theories on the call?

[gglynn00]

I have been following this show and the story is begining to get a little tired for me.

To borrow a phrase from the recent TRS show....the "pay offs" are not coming fast enough..

I was almost going to give up on this show until, in this weeks episode, he gets that call from the professor when he is back in 1998. Now it may start to get interesting.

Anyone have any theories on the call?

That was Friggin' EPIC...Something is going on, someone is pulling the strings behind the scenes...Noone has yet asked the question, "why is my ex-girlfriend a pro at time traveling?" It's just to much of a coincidence that he and his ex are both time travelers...Also, how the heck did he receive the call on a different model of phone and not his Iphone?:mad: Sorry, I used to be in the cellular industry...;)

[tigersharkbas]

Exactly!

And another thing...where does his girly get her clothes and money from?
I mean...he has a job.

My theory is that she was always from the future...just got a little stuck in the past and hooked with our man until one day...boom..she is on the time travel gig again.

Still...where does she get money from? What life does she lead to enable her to time travel. How does she know what time our hero is in.

Oh..and another thing.....what was the point of rescuing the girl in the last episode. Did they forget to explain what she did that was so awesome she needed saving?

[jivetrky]

How does she know what time our hero is in.

I'm guessing that is one of the questions that the show will slowly reveal.

I was TOTALLY intrigued when that guy called him in the past on his other phone. I did a "Holy, what the!?!?"

Can't wait to see more to hopefully get some answers on that one!

[tokenuser]

The kid seeing the dad disappear ... and thinking it was cool magic.

Totally Rad.

(Oh yeah phonecall in the past was awesome too)

[gglynn00]

The kid seeing the dad disappear ... and thinking it was cool magic.

Totally Rad.

(Oh yeah phonecall in the past was awesome too)

I about shat myself on both...Most shows would hold this "sacred" and not let the cat out of the bag...But the cat is out and fiesty in this show...Not only that, but the professor coming to him and the conversation they had...WTF...was that not the coolest "beating around the bush" conversation in the world...Journeyman, "I time travel." Professor, "Yeah...I know you time travel and I might have something to do with it." Journeyman, "I'll see you later...or maybe earlier.";)

[tigersharkbas]

Yeah..the show totally won me back after this weeks episode. I thought the professor dialog thing was awesome.

But the one thing bothering me is still why he is saving these people. What did the Cambodian guys family do that helped the future (not saying the didn't deserve to be rescued of course...but many families deserved it...what made his so special?)

They are forgetting this element.

Oh...and the cop's Doctor girlfriend.....can I just say.....*in meek voice* HOT.

[eddielee]

I apologize, but I had to revive this topic after the most recent episode. HOLY EFFING HELL. How awesome is this show? Another show to consume my time!

Dan gets too involved and alters history too much, resulting in a pedophile that he put away going after his family!

[jivetrky]

I apologize, but I had to revive this topic after the most recent episode. HOLY EFFING HELL. How awesome is this show? Another show to consume my time!

Dan gets too involved and alters history too much, resulting in a pedophile that he put away going after his family!

yarp! Very awesome show, and a great episode! :)

Monday night TV is pretty sweet, Heroes then Journeyman.

[gglynn00]

yarp! Very awesome show, and a great episode! :)

Monday night TV is pretty sweet, Heroes then Journeyman.

<bump>SSSSOOOOO, is anyone still aboard the S.S. Journeyman? I can't express how this show has went way above my expectations...If you didn't watch last night's episode...first: shame on you, second: It's getting pretty good. This show and Heroes are on the top of my list of shows that I have to watch...Anyway, please watch last nights episode and watch the previews for next week and see what I mean...

[godmode]

I'm still in. The scifi in this show isnt great, but the characters are so damn interesting and expertly written that it just draws you in. Monday night is my NBC night...Chuck(yes i watch that), Heroes and Journeyman.

[gglynn00]

I'm still in. The scifi in this show isnt great, but the characters are so damn interesting and expertly written that it just draws you in. Monday night is my NBC night...Chuck(yes i watch that), Heroes and Journeyman.

You know...Chuck turned out not to be that bad...I won't negate your experience in any way for admiting that you watch it. The show starts before I get home and I only get to watch the last 30 mins of it though. I think the writers took the pre release criticisms and listened. It seems less of a hammy comedy that it started out as and more of a kinda funny neo drama type show.

*edit* and I agree that the writing and the characters in Journeyman keep me watching more than the story...Although next week will be Epic!!!

[godmode]

Dammit, it looks like this show is on the chopping block.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34841

[gglynn00]

Dammit, it looks like this show is on the chopping block.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34841

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Of all the networks that don't need to be killing shows. It looks like NBC is turning into the next FOX...Maybe they will try it in a different time slot first...But still, that usually spells doom for a show as well...Does anyone want to help me send a bunch of packing peanuts to NBC studios:D

[jivetrky]

Holy crap I will be pissed!@

I got all invested in "Day Break" the same way (ABC with Taye Diggs) and they axed that with only a few episodes to go before it all got answered.

Journeyman is such a better show, I sure hope it sticks around :(

[eddielee]

What? Why do shows like this get canceled yet there are 178 seasons of survivor?

[patch]

CENCSORED FOR VULGAR CONTENT

I refuse to read what you linked to. In fact, could a mod please delete his post. I find it very offencive...

*wonders off to cry and try to forget what he just learned*

[godmode]

More bad news lol
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34883

[wideawakewesley]

More bad news lol
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34883

Probably more chance of it being aired in the UK than the USA at the moment, but damn, this is my fave new show. It's built up brilliantly so far and it'll be a crying shame to see it cancelled.

[darknessgp]

What? Why do shows like this get canceled yet there are 178 seasons of survivor?

For the simple reason that the 3 major companies (NBC, ABC, CBS) don't care about making comparatively a little amount of money, but showing a good show. They'd rather make an ass ton of money on shows like Survivor, Big Brother, etc.

[themav]

Why can't NBC just let something go for more then 'most' of a season..

Last year I got into Studio 60. It was a good show, but let it die out before the end of the season.. If I remember correctly they stopped promoting it entirely near the end. When they decided to finish out the few episodes they had left after a usual TV hiatus, I happened to stumble into it by accident..

I'm hoping Journeyman can pull through, but I'm sure the writer's strike isn't going to help matters either.

[jubo]

Journeyman is also my favorite new show. The acting is all great, but the storylines are even better. I work nights, but I watch this show before I watch heroes when I get home, I like it so much. I hope it doesn't get the axe. I like it better than quantum leap even.

[the-clab]

I too watched Day Break, Studio 60, and even The Nine only to see them get canned before they got to any of the answers. If Journeyman goes down the same way I will be sad but not shocked. Some of the best shows seems to slip through the cracks and all too often. I don't know if packing peanuts could save this show but it would be nice if the networks listened to the fans sometimes. I just hate how they give up on shows and just quit promotion altogether.

[radmax]

JourneyMan and Dexter are my favorite shows on the air right now. Firefly is my all time favorite, so I am used to this kind of stuff.

Still...it pisses me off. Screw Heroes. JourneyMan is way smarter and interesting.

[eddielee]

Tonight's conclusion to the whole Bennet story. Sad, breath taking, awesome.

[godmode]

I thought it was a little too neat with what happened to the FBI agent. But otherwise great episode. 2 Weeks until another new one though :(

[wideawakewesley]

Ok, I've intentionally not watched Chuck because of the slating the TRS boys gave it, but NBC has just ordered another 9 episodes of it! WTF? Come on, there's no way it's better than Journeyman!

[godmode]

Its not as good as Journeyman, but surprisingly, its a fun show.

[gglynn00]

Its not as good as Journeyman, but surprisingly, its a fun show.

Chuck isn't bad, it reminds me of a psuedo Alias w/ all the twists and turns... So my question is, does anyone know if Journeyman is canned? I sure hope it isn't. I kinda hope that it transfers networks to USA so that it can have fewer limitations. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[wideawakewesley]

It's time for a new crusade folks, this time to save Journeyman. Before you jump in and say it's pointless, tell that to Jericho!

Vote now for what to send NBC as part of the campaign.

http://savejourneyman.net/2007/12/02/vote-on-what-to-send-to-nbc-in-support-of-journeyman/

Wes

[masherscf]

There's nothing wrong with "Journeyman" that a new time slot wouldn't solve.

"CSI: Miami" keeps kicking ass in that time slot.

[tokenuser]

This is another example of old school media not keeping up with the times.
Neilsen families do no treceive their content over the air anymore. They have cable and satellite like the rest of us, and like the rest of us they use a DVR to timeshift their viewing or watch one show while recording another. More people are now also downloading content (and NBC now actively promote this ... provided its from their website).

Unfortunately ratings don't support either DVR/timeshifted content or download ... they are concerned with <ageX> to <ageY> were watching <showZ> between <timeA> and <timeB>. They don't care that my <timeA>-<timeB-15min> is different to the "live" time.

Journeyman is an intelligent show that has been working us into the storyline. I am going to be pissed if this one is cancelled.

[masherscf]

Journeyman is an intelligent show that has been working us into the storyline. I am going to be pissed if this one is cancelled.

You're right. I've been watching the day after as well. It's not just the "old media." Advertisers peg their rates to the Nielson ratings. Therefore, Nielsons are the only viewers that matter to TV peeps.

[baddox]

Of all the new shows to cancel, I would miss Journeyman most. There's so much of the back story it would suck not to have, namely the whole story behind Livia, the tachyon professor guy that called Dan in the past, and who/what is making them jump.

[magunwarrior]

*Puts on his zealot gear, prepares to battle the NBC overlords*

[masherscf]

*Puts on his zealot gear, prepares to battle the NBC overlords*

NBC is really wounded. Between CSI and Desperate Housewives... no one is watching NBC anymore. There's "Hero's", of course. But, Football is the only NBC show even cracking the top 20.

[godmode]

too bad i cant vote for Ketchup sandwiches :D

[tokenuser]

too bad i cant vote for Ketchup sandwiches :DWeren't they referred to as "pizza" sandwiches?

[wideawakewesley]

You're right. I've been watching the day after as well.

Me too and we only got the show here recently (although I torrent), so NBC is ignoring the possible global audience too.

Wes

[homelesshacker]

Man this is the best of the new shows. It would be a dumb move to can this show. It has a great cast and quality writing.

[gglynn00]

They have a digg button as well on the web site...So make sure you hit that up as well...I voted to send the NBC guys Rice a Roni...Did you all vote?

[themav]

They really need to wake up and keep this show going.. It bothers me how fast the major networks, will wave the white flag on shows.. If I recall correctly, Cheers didnt do well at all the first season. Good thing the networks didnt do then what they are doing now.. There would be some of the most watched shows that would have never made it..

Scary thought..

[wideawakewesley]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9142470791

Join the facebook group dedicated to saving the show!

[wideawakewesley]

Not good news...

NBC let the Dec. 11 deadline pass for it to pick up additional episodes of its low-rated time-travel series Journeyman, in effect canceling the series, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The network let its option lapse on the 20th Century Fox TV-produced series, which starred Kevin McKidd as a San Francisco journalist who finds himself unstuck in time. The show posted its lowest rating among adults 18-49 on Dec. 10 when an episode aired without its usual Heroes lead-in.

Journeyman was able to complete production on its 13-episode order, despite the writers' strike. The remaining two original segments will air as scheduled in coming weeks.

Still in limbo is NBC freshman SF series Bionic Woman, which has been sliding in the ratings since its premiere. (NBC is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.)

[masherscf]

And, that giant sound howling sould is the suck of NBC.

[digitalfirefly]

Journeyman is the only new show I watch this year. I'll be pissed if they cancel it.

[tokenuser]

Journeyman and Life were the two new series I got into. To be honest, I still haven't watched Journeyman this week - its sitting on the DVR to (probably) be watched tonight.

At least Life has been renewed.

Interesting to note: Life, Chuck, and Dirty Sexy Money are the only new shows this season to have picked up renewals.

[potatohead]

I hope Dan's next "leap" is the next leap home; home into my television. (you see how I voltroned all that with Quantum Leap, Journeyman, and a quip!?)

I'm on board.

[satori]

This is another example of old school media not keeping up with the times.
Neilsen families do no treceive their content over the air anymore. They have cable and satellite like the rest of us, and like the rest of us they use a DVR to timeshift their viewing or watch one show while recording another. More people are now also downloading content (and NBC now actively promote this ... provided its from their website).

Unfortunately ratings don't support either DVR/timeshifted content or download ... they are concerned with <ageX> to <ageY> were watching <showZ> between <timeA> and <timeB>. They don't care that my <timeA>-<timeB-15min> is different to the "live" time.

Journeyman is an intelligent show that has been working us into the storyline. I am going to be pissed if this one is cancelled.

not true, my best friend has a DVR and is a Nielson family, they recieved their updated box in March and have been tracking accordingly

[tokenuser]

not true, my best friend has a DVR and is a Nielson family, they recieved their updated box in March and have been tracking accordinglyPartially true. DVR blackboxes have not been distributed to all Neilson families - they are currently in an "extended trial", and records from DVRs are being kept, but not used for ratings purposes at this stage.

[satori]

Partially true. DVR blackboxes have not been distributed to all Neilson families - they are currently in an "extended trial", and records from DVRs are being kept, but not used for ratings purposes at this stage.

The trial ended back in March which is why she got her Nielson box, she wasn't part of a trial.

[tokenuser]

Jounreyman - RIP.

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=a210f827-8ffc-4882-834d-8fc1af7eb40c

Can only hope that SciFi pick it up ... although moving production to Vancouver might be an issue. Do SciFi ever film anything outside of Canada anymore?

[godmode]

can you quote the article please? im at work with Websense...

[satori]

it says this guy has it on good authority that the show is cancelled.

I have a friend who's a VP in NBC's London office working to bring NBC there. I'm seeing her on Dec 30th and I'm going to cry on her shoulder about this. I doubt it'll do anything, but I figure it'll probably have the same effect as screaming on the internet, but this just really frustrates me.

[godmode]

Man, this sucks. Whatever happened to building an audience? Some of the greatest TV shows did terrible in their first seasons. Now they barely give it a season to get record numbers.
I would be happy if somehow this show moved to USA network like CSI:criminal intent. That network still has some great shows and is capable of getting good numbers.

[tokenuser]

it says this guy has it on good authority that the show is cancelled.I don't normally like rumours form blogs, but when it comes to US TV, E!Online seem to be on the money.

[tnvwboy]

My fault...or people like me. I didn't bother to watch it. Looked like a bad rip-off of Quantum Leap, so I never bothered with it. Sorry.

[tokenuser]

My fault...or people like me. I didn't bother to watch it. Looked like a bad rip-off of Quantum Leap, so I never bothered with it. Sorry.Its a shame, but I think that was te general sentiment about the show. As it progressed though, you ralied that while the premises might have been similar, the storylines weren't and the writers were taking it in a different direction ... especially how things from the past that got changed effected the future. It was intelligent SciFi - no aliens, no altered dimensions, just good old fashioned storytelling based around a simple idea.

[gglynn00]

My fault...or people like me. I didn't bother to watch it. Looked like a bad rip-off of Quantum Leap, so I never bothered with it. Sorry.
Eh, don't feel bad, I think yours is the same feeling that a lot of people got from the commercials before the show aired. With that said, I am hoping that it ends up on USA b/c Monk was canceled from ABC and USA bought it and it wins at least 1 emmy every year to ABC's shagrin...I know Monk isn't for everyone but it's my kind of comedy. I also feel that USA is a good fit for a Sci-Fiesque drama. USA is a good intermediary between the Sci-Fi channel and regular network tv. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[magunwarrior]

Well, I'm going to go punch some kittens in the face...

[themav]

Im on board with the idea of another network picking it up!! I admit, I got into the show by downloading a torrent of the first 2 episodes, but I have had it recording on my DVR since.

I dont care what channel, but as long as the show is picked up.. Its a win in my book.

[gglynn00]

Are you guys watching this ish? This is friggin' awesome...Dan changes the present and has a daughter and the nanomachines!!! It's on right now but had to stop by and say that this show keeps me in shock and awe!!!:D

[eddielee]

*Edit: Can someone post a really detailed summary of tonight's episode, I missed it for some reason :(

[comhcinc]

the smiley of your avatar doesn't work with the other smiley...........i'm so confused!

[radmax]

*Edit: Can someone post a really detailed summary of tonight's episode, I missed it for some reason :(

You can get it on iTunes and maybe help people see that this show has fans.

[stevemcqueen]

Please save Journeyman by emailing NBC or checking this website http://savejourneyman.net/ out. Please watch 2night 12/19 at 10 p.m. if you have never seen it check it out its an amazing show. Please Save Journeyman and smart TV! Digg it http://digg.com/television/Journeyman_to_be_Cancelled

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[godmode]

Are you guys watching this ish? This is friggin' awesome...Dan changes the present and has a daughter and the nanomachines!!! It's on right now but had to stop by and say that this show keeps me in shock and awe!!!:D

This episode was freakin brilliant! When Caroline comes out I was like :eek:.
Damn you NBC for killing this show!

[satori]

Journeyman is probably my second favorite show this season after 30 Rock. I'm really sad that it's going away.

[tokenuser]

Just watched the last two eps back to back. Pity noone will have watched them - they were outstanding, and raised as many questions as they answered.

CURSE YOU WGA!!!

[godmode]

Last episode was brilliant. Thankfully even though this show is as good as dead, they gave us a decent ending. That final scene was beautiful.

[cromulent]

One of the best new shows this season and they're going to cancel it.

Just...wow....:(

[the-clab]

I'm just sad after watching that last episode. Most people I know who have seen Journeyman, love it. Guess it's too late to get more people to see it.

[wideawakewesley]

Just watched the final episode and love the way it ended. I still hope someone takes a chance on this, but if at least we had quality while it lasted.

Wes

[masherscf]

Unlucky episode 13 hasn't aired here yet. If it airs of XMAS eve, I may not see it until after New Years.

[jivetrky]

Wow, I'm kinda sad that it's over, but that was a really great ending. I'm glad they made it such a good ending for that show. Still a shame though :cry:

[eddielee]

Someone recap PLEASE!!!

[godmode]

Eddie, http://savejourneyman.net (http://savejourneyman.net/) has 3 recaps of the episode

[eddielee]

Eddie, http://savejourneyman.net (http://savejourneyman.net/) has 3 recaps of the episode

Thank you so much.