Good news!

[sarahlane]

Hey party people,

We've heard you, we've thought about it, and now we're shifting gears.

Starting tomorrow, The Revision3 Gazette will be available to all members, all the time!

We never intended for R3G to exclude or make anyone feel left out. And I'd prefer that you be able to watch the Revision3 shows you want to watch, regardless of your financial status. So with tomorrow's release and every Wednesday afterward (including our 3 archived episodes), The Gazette will be totally, absolutely, 100% free. FREE! NO MONEY DOWN!

Don't worry, upgraded members, you'll still have your Diggnation early release perks, and we're working on new extras like super hi-rez HD files just for you (coming soon).

Tomorrow's R3G's a good one... think alcohol and Digg. :) Watch, get inspired, and then help me think of more behind the scenes ideas here!

-s

[travislopes]

Well.....umm.....That's......
I don't know how to respond. :confused:

One thing I think would be cool for members is if your a paying member for X amount of months/years, you get a free Rev3 (or one of the Rev3 shows) shirt.

[mavrevmatt]

It's great to see that Rev3 actually listens to people, thank you.

[njshadow]

Revision...........3............rocks. Crap, why do I kinda feel like a jerk now for complaining that it wasn't free?

[samureye]

While I dislike you guys making this decisions because I think the majority of people wanting it free are whiny, I think it's a good move because now it means the paying members can hopefuly get something way better.

[boxcarjay]

im also have some mixed feelings about this. i feel like the early iphone buyer guy, cause i upgraded just to see this show. i dont have any HD stuff so that doesnt really matter to me at all. so hopefully some other cool member only stuff comes out, and the cheap people dont complain about it, so they make it free within a couple of weeks

[davesecx]

I'm ok with making it free, but I don't like the idea of a few people pressuring you guys to make it free. Remember, you dont have to make EVERYONE happy all the time.

I too upgrade for the sole purpose of watching this show. However, since I believe in the product being made, I'm not about to cancel my membership. Having the HD video available is a nice perk. But, I really liked the idea of having an "exclusive" show, but I'll manage with it being free too. :)

Either way, the show rocks!

[damianvonbarone]

Ha! To those who paid! Kinda like Apple and the I-Phone! We call it "the Jobs maneuver";)

[davesecx]

Our country's slogan should be "America: If you complain enough, you get your way!"

[nextgenxbox]

Sweetness!

[atom12]

Hey party people,

We've heard you, we've thought about it, and now we're shifting gears.

Starting tomorrow, The Revision3 Gazette will be available to all members, all the time!

We never intended for R3G to exclude or make anyone feel left out. And I'd prefer that you be able to watch the Revision3 shows you want to watch, regardless of your financial status. So with tomorrow's release and every Wednesday afterward (including our 3 archived episodes), The Gazette will be totally, absolutely, 100% free. FREE! NO MONEY DOWN!

Don't worry, upgraded members, you'll still have your Diggnation early release perks, and we're working on new extras like super hi-rez HD files just for you (coming soon).

Tomorrow's R3G's a good one... think alcohol and Digg. :) Watch, get inspired, and then help me think of more behind the scenes ideas here!

-s

I'll be honest it did get me to donate, however for those that can't afford it I am glad they can see it now. I for one will continue to give the donation. It is still money well spent in my opinion, I just needed a kick in the pants to do it. Thanks.

I will say it would be nice to come up with a perk for paying folks other than Diggnation early and bigger downloads (which are nice perk for sure.) I have some ideas but honestly I don't think any could be perceived as not favoring some while excluding others so I will keep them to myself. Maybe a Rev3 shirt or hat when you up to the $50 a year donation? :confused:

Then again, the quality of the programing is well worth the money like I said.:cool:

[spiri]

One thing I think would be cool for members is if your a paying member for X amount of months/years, you get a free Rev3 (or one of the Rev3 shows) shirt.
Yeah, that would be kinda cool! :)

[masherscf]

Don't worry, upgraded members, you'll still have your Diggnation early release perks, and we're working on new extras like super hi-rez HD files just for you (coming soon).

I'm all down with the "special T-shirt after 12 months" idea.

[ryudo]

now all the sudden I don't know what I am paying for....HD was not enough for me to keep paying I can live with the lower quality so I canceled then when Gazette came out I became a paying member again...now I see no reason to pay.

[blofeld07]

I'm really really glad you are going free. I want to donate, but right now is not the right time since we just moved and need to buy food and such.

I guess I don't really like the paid subscription idea because I'm becoming addicted to rss media/podcasts. Especially if the HD content will be website only. I have to think to download the show an hour or more in advance. The internet is really crappy here at night unfortunately. I would be fine with it if I could somehow still use miro to get the shows I add to.

[iccanui]

Well.....umm.....That's......
I don't know how to respond. :confused:

One thing I think would be cool for members is if your a paying member for X amount of months/years, you get a free Rev3 (or one of the Rev3 shows) shirt.

And to add to that, a shirt of special design. Maybe a little icon on the forums also ?

Or how about we see the new shows first, like how it went with the gazzette. We see it, give feedback and help refine it like beta testers.

I still say every 3 or 4 months someone gets picked to fly out on their own dime and maybe help run the show or be in one or just have a veggie burrito with Sarah or something. Only to people that have been members for 3 months or something.


Just thinking.

[iccanui]

now all the sudden I don't know what I am paying for....HD was not enough for me to keep paying I can live with the lower quality so I canceled then when Gazette came out I became a paying member again...now I see no reason to pay.



I pay to support the people providing the content. Think about the effort they put into it, the studio they are building, the talent they have to hire and pay to make this all happen, the props and sets and cameras and ..... The list goes on.


Like I said. That's why I pay.


But I feel ya, I had the same knee jerk reaction. But then I realized that these guys aren't driving bmw's yet, ya know?

[ryudo]

I pay to support the people providing the content. Think about the effort they put into it, the studio they are building, the talent they have to hire and pay to make this all happen, the props and sets and cameras and ..... The list goes on.


Like I said. That's why I pay.


But I feel ya, I had the same knee jerk reaction. But then I realized that these guys aren't driving bmw's yet, ya know?

I don't make a lot of money either but I still can afford the 5$ a month so the crybabies about not affording it are just looking to get their way....I mean if people are truly starving for money...then turn off the cable and internet so they have more money in their pocket so they can get on their feet quicker till they can afford it again.

I live alone and have to pay bills and rent and food like anyone else.
Be nice to help support these people but I already know they have much more money than me...so I feel I should just take back my money for now until I feel I am truly getting what I pay for. ;)

[chuckles]

Especially if the HD content will be website only. I have to think to download the show an hour or more in advance. The internet is really crappy here at night unfortunately. I would be fine with it if I could somehow still use miro to get the shows I add to.

The HD content is available for download.

-chuckles-

[cabster21]

So if we complain enough that there is no members only material, will we get it?? :confused:

[whoisscott]

While I dislike you guys making this decisions because I think the majority of people wanting it free are whiny, I think it's a good move because now it means the paying members can hopefuly get something way better.

I hope so too. It was extras such as this show that made me decide to become a paid member. For the people who complained, I have to say that rev3 is a business and can't make money if they give away everything. I love the "super secret member's only" content, it somehow made the show seem more special. And it was something exciting to look forward too, rather than now, its just another show. Hopefully there will be more members only content in the future.

[joehan]

I all for FREE content, but since some of us contribute. Shouldn't we be heard as well.
I know you guys will take care of us, just hope is something worth of our hard earn money ...

good luck

[eminemdrdre00]

isn't the show usually out by now?

[atom12]

isn't the show usually out by now?

I was thinking the same thing.

[chuckles]

isn't the show usually out by now?

The show is normally out @ 4:00PM Pacific Time on Wednesdays... just a few more hours..

-chuckles-

[atom12]

The show is normally out @ 4:00PM Pacific Time on Wednesdays... just a few more hours..

-chuckles-

... that pesky West Coast/East Coast time difference thing....

Haven't you folks developed "Time Travel" yet?:eek:

[blofeld07]

I'm impressed with the weekly scheduling. Down to the hour? My god! I think you guys quickly being the most "on time" network of shows.

[chuckles]

Episodes 1 - 3 are now available to the public and Episode 4 will be out very shortly... 4:00PM Paciific Time.

-chuckles-

[travislopes]

Well, that is some-what disappointing about the show being available to everyone, but what can I do about it?

*Constantly refreshing page waiting for new R3G*

[atom12]

Episodes 1 - 3 are now available to the public and Episode 4 will be out very shortly... 4:00PM Paciific Time.

-chuckles-

Chuckles, Chuckles he's are man! If he can't do it no one can!

Refreshing like a nut here too.:o

[muffins]

I'm gonna be honest...I don't pay the subscription and even I think Rev3 shouldn't be doing this. Stop giving in to the winers. As much as I appreciate this, the members should get SOMETHING.

[rabidbadger]

I'm gonna get a LOT of sh!t for this opinion, but not only do I think the "donators" should get early downloads of "diggnation" but ALL shows. I think the best way to make everyone happy and sad, and to make more money, is to have ALL shows, not just one or two, be available for payers, the hardcore fans, and then let us more casual users download for free later. This would solve several problems: Donators get extra-special treatment, and non-donators still get to see the shows for free. Just later. And it makes it all consistent.

Not just making Diggnatio "exclusive" but makes all "early" Rev3 exclusive.

I think this would be fair, as long as it is consistent. "All Rev3 shows are free after two days"

Some shows I can wait a day or two for, some I wanna see right away. The "Right Away" ones would trump "can wait" ones and make me pay. And as a bonus, donators would get the secondary shows "right away" too.

Kinda an all or nothing proposition, I know, but that would make me re-sign up.

(And also, is Tekzilla gonna be an early-download for pay, thing? If so, might as well go whole hog and do all the shows like this, across the board.)

[travislopes]

I'm gonna get a LOT of sh!t for this opinion, but not only do I think the "donators" should get early downloads of "diggnation" but ALL shows. I think the best way to make everyone happy and sad, and to make more money, is to have ALL shows, not just one or two, be available for payers, the hardcore fans, and then let us more casual users download for free later. This would solve several problems: Donators get extra-special treatment, and non-donators still get to see the shows for free. Just later. And it makes it all consistent.

Not just making Diggnatio "exclusive" but makes all "early" Rev3 exclusive.

I think this would be fair, as long as it is consistent. "All Rev3 shows are free after two days"

Some shows I can wait a day or two for, some I wanna see right away. The "Right Away" ones would trump "can wait" ones and make me pay. And as a bonus, donators would get the secondary shows "right away" too.

Kinda an all or nothing proposition, I know, but that would make me re-sign up.

(And also, is Tekzilla gonna be an early-download for pay, thing? If so, might as well go whole hog and do all the shows like this, across the board.)
I completely agree with all of that. The chances of that happening? Probably slim to none. But with it being Revision3, you never know...

[rabidbadger]

I should most probably clarify that I am not now a paying member, though have been in the past. (But I have been called a member in the past - mostly by several of you :) ) Not 'cause I don't wanna be, just 'cause I am on a very strict "job hunt" budget. I would gladly go back to paying to see this stuff on my own schedule if every penny wasn't accounted for.

[nippyjun]

Are the episodes going to be put up on itunes?

[chuckles]

Are the episodes going to be put up on itunes?

Yes. However, you can manually add the RSS feed to iTunes right now if you don't want to wait.

From the iTunes menu, click on "Advanced' -> "Subscribe to Podcats"

-chuckles-

[chuckles]

I'm gonna get a LOT of sh!t for this opinion, but not only do I think the "donators" should get early downloads of "diggnation" but ALL shows. I think the best way to make everyone happy and sad, and to make more money, is to have ALL shows, not just one or two, be available for payers, the hardcore fans, and then let us more casual users download for free later. This would solve several problems: Donators get extra-special treatment, and non-donators still get to see the shows for free. Just later. And it makes it all consistent.

Not just making Diggnatio "exclusive" but makes all "early" Rev3 exclusive.

I think this would be fair, as long as it is consistent. "All Rev3 shows are free after two days"

Some shows I can wait a day or two for, some I wanna see right away. The "Right Away" ones would trump "can wait" ones and make me pay. And as a bonus, donators would get the secondary shows "right away" too.

Kinda an all or nothing proposition, I know, but that would make me re-sign up.

(And also, is Tekzilla gonna be an early-download for pay, thing? If so, might as well go whole hog and do all the shows like this, across the board.)

We are not going to abandon our paid members. We will definitely have something just for them... :)

-chuckles-

[vincent12234]

Awesome, I also see the good and the bad, but still thats cool. Very respectable that you guys do listen. AND hopefully still have some member stuff too.

[oss]

Very good news. Rev3 are starting to see the light :)

[rabidbadger]

We are not going to abandon our paid members. We will definitely have something just for them... :)

-chuckles-

No offense, but Re3 has been saying that for YEARS!

the reason I don't subsribe, and the reason I quit paying, is>> cause you NEVER came thru!

[eminemdrdre00]

We are not going to abandon our paid members. We will definitely have something just for them... :)

-chuckles-

it was called The Revision3 Gazette. It was the perfect type of "paid" content. Im not even a paid member, but I understood why it was made in the first place!

[digideth]

i hate to say it but it almost feels like a bait an switch scam. i knew i should have justed waited but nooooo i felt like this might be worthing donating to but not anymore! Don't you think you should have put something in place of the paid content before you made it free, come on now, HD content and early download of diggnation is not worth it! i would like to see the stats on how many people have now unsubscribed. People are going to complain either way but now you pissed of the paying crowd which in my opinion is going to cause double the damage if not more. you want to make money right... i mean thats the goal right.... so why did you just screw us the, paying customers? and you can take your "We are not going to abandon our paid members. We will definitely have something just for them..." crap an stick it, i have heard that to many times from to many people, i waited untill i felt like there was something worth donating for, when there was i did, now its free, with nothing in its place that BS.... bait'n'switch!
u lost my support an future donations

[flux1337]

Even though I've been getting it for free (-- deleted -- FTW), I still like this, would always rarther get something from the source, where ads are intact, and the makers are still recieving funds from me watching...

Once a pirate, always a pirate......especially when their are sponsors!!

[chuckles]

Once a pirate, always a pirate......especially when their are sponsors!!

I don't think there is any sponsorship for Revision3 Gazette. :)

-chuckles-

[flux1337]

I don't think there is any sponsorship for Revision3 Gazette. :)

-chuckles-
Meh.......if they was any, nobody would be bothered.

Diggnation early for paid members, I can totally understand that, but giving stuff like this to paid members? Stupid. Even the new york times has realised charging for content is a bad idea in this day and age, if somebody want's something, they will aways choose free! (Course, if its a DVD or CD which they REALLY want, its best to buy it, so future movies by that studio will be made....but when most shows on Rev3 gets sponsors like Microsoft, thats all the support you should need! ....its not just like the shows are in the companys affiliate program, like most small podcasts are for GoDaddy, when you get to give away thousands of dollars of stuff, like InDigital did, and Diggnation does....)

If a TV channel started charging me for programmes, I would tell them where to stuff it......then go straight to my fav bittorrent site, to download it without any ads.... :p

[chuckles]

i hate to say it but it almost feels like a bait an switch scam. i knew i should have justed waited but nooooo i felt like this might be worthing donating to but not anymore! Don't you think you should have put something in place of the paid content before you made it free, come on now, HD content and early download of diggnation is not worth it! i would like to see the stats on how many people have now unsubscribed. People are going to complain either way but now you pissed of the paying crowd which in my opinion is going to cause double the damage if not more. you want to make money right... i mean thats the goal right.... so why did you just screw us the, paying customers? and you can take your "We are not going to abandon our paid members. We will definitely have something just for them..." crap an stick it, i have heard that to many times from to many people, i waited untill i felt like there was something worth donating for, when there was i did, now its free, with nothing in its place that BS.... bait'n'switch!
u lost my support an future donations

In no way, shape, or form did we mean to alienate any of our paying members by releasing the Revision3 Gazette to the general public. We're very sorry that you feel this way, but we will definitely have other benefits for our paying members. We don't expect to be able to convince you by mere words on this forum, but we do expect to do it by offering something unique to our members. In the meantime, we do hope you stick around and enjoy our shows.

-chuckles-

[kevitivity]

...and why do I care?

[wizmaster]

Way to give in into the whiners. Honestly, early content for subscribers was not that bad. If people can't wait two days for something they get for free, yu shouldn't be catering to them. I'm not a paid member yet but this really sucks.

You shouldn't worry about the whiners so much.

[mrpopular]

Rev3= Awesome

[s1lentslayer]

There's no download link for episode 2:
http://revision3.com/rev3gazette/comfy

[masherscf]

In no way, shape, or form did we mean to alienate any of our paying members by releasing the Revision3 Gazette to the general public.

Oddly enough, I think you may have alienated borderline subscribers. That is, people who donated just to get R3G or were considering it strongly on that basis.

On-principle subscribers, like me, who subscribe in order to compensate Revision 3 in return for their entirety of downloaded content may not mind.

I think the R3G was too good not to share.

Now, about those t-shirts...?

[kurtlopes]

is there any way to watch the webcams refered on RV3G ep4 ?

thanks in advance

[maicowchoy]

Great, I upgraded to be a paying member just to watch this show (and future exclusive shows) and now it's free. Having exclusive member only episodes was a great way to attract paying members (like myself).

Now what is the incentive to become a paying member other than early releases and "super hi-rez" files (the HD files are great quality as is)?

I don't mind the $5/mo payment to support Revision3, but having exclusive shows was a "bonus" for us paying members.

[mbrownell-comcast-net]

As a long time subscriber I echo the comments of many of the other subscribers. I am happy to help support Revision3 and enjoy the shows, but it is nice when there is a little something extra for those of us who support you. It probably would have been a better idea to make the Gazette free all along.

[drdabbles]

I know this is going to be offensive to those that want the material for free, and I'm sorry. I don't mean to be harsh at you personally. This is more a commentary on how I feel personally about this matter.

As a paid member of Rev3, I thought I would get exclusive content and premium features. I also felt I was doing my part to support Rev3 in the early days. It also served as a way for me to put my money where my mouth was, and _prove_ I enjoyed the content in the way advertisers and business execs understand.

Since the beginning, however, there has been a severe lack of "premium" content for the members that have decided to shell out money. I figured more content would come as time went by and Rev3 established itself. As of now, I get Diggnation a couple days early. While that is cool and all, many people just download it from a site that mirrors the videos early. There's nothing rev3 can really do about that, except to make membership more beneficial.

When the R3G came out, I was actually pretty happy that it was members only. Again, sites mirrored the content, but it was just one more reason for people to pay for a membership. With enough reasons, I know several people that would gladly pay. Sadly, however, the Gazette is no longer members-only.

At this point, I'm faced with a tough decision. I can continue renewing a membership every year, and continue to reap the scarce rewards of doing so. Or, I can not renew my membership, save myself the money, and get the same content within a few hours of release from a third party. Trust me, I do not WANT to go with the second option. I understand that several mirror sites do not report numbers back to Rev3, and that costs the company advertising revenue. But, let's face the facts. On the Rev3 site, I can not get an RSS feed that contains early release content. On mirrors, I can. On the Rev3 site, I get little to no benefit for paying. Mirrors are free. At Revision3, I can speak up for the IPTV revolution and hope that enough people do the same so we can send a clear message that the old paradigm is coming to an end. On the mirrors I can't.

Time for me to do some serious pondering. Sorry to all the non-paid members, but this sucks.

[tokenuser]

is there any way to watch the webcams refered on RV3G ep4 ?

thanks in advancehttp://studiocam.revision3.com/

[maicowchoy]

I know this is going to be offensive to those that want the material for free, and I'm sorry. I don't mean to be harsh at you personally. This is more a commentary on how I feel personally about this matter.

As a paid member of Rev3, I thought I would get exclusive content and premium features. I also felt I was doing my part to support Rev3 in the early days. It also served as a way for me to put my money where my mouth was, and _prove_ I enjoyed the content in the way advertisers and business execs understand.

Since the beginning, however, there has been a severe lack of "premium" content for the members that have decided to shell out money. I figured more content would come as time went by and Rev3 established itself. As of now, I get Diggnation a couple days early. While that is cool and all, many people just download it from a site that mirrors the videos early. There's nothing rev3 can really do about that, except to make membership more beneficial.

When the R3G came out, I was actually pretty happy that it was members only. Again, sites mirrored the content, but it was just one more reason for people to pay for a membership. With enough reasons, I know several people that would gladly pay. Sadly, however, the Gazette is no longer members-only.

At this point, I'm faced with a tough decision. I can continue renewing a membership every year, and continue to reap the scarce rewards of doing so. Or, I can not renew my membership, save myself the money, and get the same content within a few hours of release from a third party. Trust me, I do not WANT to go with the second option. I understand that several mirror sites do not report numbers back to Rev3, and that costs the company advertising revenue. But, let's face the facts. On the Rev3 site, I can not get an RSS feed that contains early release content. On mirrors, I can. On the Rev3 site, I get little to no benefit for paying. Mirrors are free. At Revision3, I can speak up for the IPTV revolution and hope that enough people do the same so we can send a clear message that the old paradigm is coming to an end. On the mirrors I can't.

Time for me to do some serious pondering. Sorry to all the non-paid members, but this sucks.

Well put, much agreed. :)

[thalassian]

I am really not happy with this. I am a paying member, what do I get for my money? Make your members feel more exclusive and elite and those will be the people that take care of your through the ruff times.

[remi9]

I'm a paid member (full year). My immediate reaction is that this is just pandering to the whiners. I can see allot of members not being happy about this. Being a member means to enter a sort of contract. I think we have a reasonable expectation of stable premium content even if you do call it a "donation" based membership.

I thought about it for a while though. I really like how fast Rev3 is changing, and I think you guys have the best intentions. I can even be ok with the Gazette going to non-members. If that makes more sense to draw in more viewers to Rev3 than so be it.

I do think that Rev3 could have done this a little better. I think you guys should have waited to make the Gazette free until you had something concrete to replace it with for the members. Not just promises of cool stuff. We have heard that before.

That said, I like the idea of more HD content. And I don't know where the t-shirt idea came from, but that would be really cool. Being from Canada I can see us somehow getting screwed out of that though.

[travislopes]

And I don't know where the t-shirt idea came from, but that would be really cool. Being from Canada I can see us somehow getting screwed out of that though.
One thing I think would be cool for members is if your a paying member for X amount of months/years, you get a free Rev3 (or one of the Rev3 shows) shirt.
It would be awesome if members got an "exclusive shirt" with maybe the Rev3 logo on the front and logos of all the major shows on the back (ex: diggnation, systm, thebroken, trs, infected, etc).

[minion4hire]

"Members Only" merchandise would be pretty cool. It's kinda weird to think about having to first pay money in order to buy something, but it would at least offer an exclusive/elitist privilege to being a member.

I'm of the same mind as others here in that giving in to the whiny general public is kinda weak. I paid specifically for the Gazette. I don't really have a problem paying now or in the future now that this is free as I'd thought of becoming a member in the past just to show my appreciation and support of the content being offered here.

But getting HD content doesn't really do it for me. I watch the vast majority of shows in flash as it's just far more convenient than downloading or streaming. I'll download TRS on occasion but I don't really need to eat up my bandwidth (or that of rev3) for my viewing habits.

The only thing I'll say further is that I don't think you went about this quite right. To start offering "Members Only" content only to make it all free shortly thereafter is almost hypocritical. But worse than that, by rewarding a few screaming children now they're only going to scream louder and longer and in greater numbers later on when they again don't get what they want....

[nextgenxbox]

Why not get rid of the whole membership thing? It's pretty pointless and has been pointless since it began with the only perk being the early release of diggnation.

[ryudo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k8sK2PdrRQ


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_Only


WE need revision3 ones but for paid members only.:D:p

[wizmaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k8sK2PdrRQ


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_Only


WE need revision3 ones but for paid members only.:D:p

And when you don't renew your subscription, they repo your jacket. That's pretty cool (not the jacket, they need a better one).

[masherscf]

Why not get rid of the whole membership thing? It's pretty pointless and has been pointless since it began with the only perk being the early release of diggnation.

All along, this has been the only common goal of nay-sayers, whiners, content thieves and forum terrorists, to sabotage the subscription model.

[tomorrowlan]

All along, this has been the only common goal of nay-sayers, whiners, content thieves and forum terrorists, to sabotage the subscription model.

Not true. Some of us just don't like hiding a subscription under the guise of a donation. That's all. If you don't get me, think the difference between PBS and HBO. Both have good content, but only one makes you pay for seeing it.

And if Revision3 does want to start shows under a subscription service, please call it that, make it clear, and call it Revision3.1 or something.

Thanks all for listening to the consumers. I am now entering a new "DONATION" to Revision3. Done.

[ryudo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbX1aMajow&NR=1

[masherscf]

Not true. Some of us just don't like hiding a subscription under the guise of a donation. That's all. If you don't get me, think the difference between PBS and HBO. Both have good content, but only one makes you pay for seeing it.

Whatever dude, they're still sabotaging Revision3's efforts to reward people who send them cash...whatever you want to call it.

I call it my monthly gift to Revision3.

[wizmaster]

Whatever dude, they're still sabotaging Revision3's efforts to reward people who send them cash...whatever you want to call it.

I call it my monthly gift to Revision3.

Although I dislike the name of donation, this hits the nail on the head. It's not like you don't know what the money is for. You don't need to subscribe if you don't want to. If you want to donate and not have a subscription, you could probably do that too. It's not a big deal.

[masherscf]

Although I dislike the name of donation, this hits the nail on the head. It's not like you don't know what the money is for. You don't need to subscribe if you don't want to. If you want to donate and not have a subscription, you could probably do that too. It's not a big deal.

If I wasn't satisfied, I would have canceled already.

[wizmaster]

If I wasn't satisfied, I would have canceled already.

Bingo. Too bad Rev3 already caved. Now the complaints will just increase. Honestly, Diggnation isn't all that great that waiting two days makes a difference. R3G was a cool thing for members and it also wasn't something that was necessary to enjoy Rev3 programming. There will always be whiners and trollers and Rev3 just feed them. I hope the repercussions won't be too severe. Once I get a another job (:() I will probably be a subscriber.

[tokenuser]

Bingo. Too bad Rev3 already caved. Now the complaints will just increase. Honestly, Diggnation isn't all that great that waiting two days makes a difference. 2 days? DN is now released on Saturdays.

[bman]

Awesomeness!

[wizmaster]

2 days? DN is now released on Saturdays.

I'm pretty sure it's Friday for members and Sunday for non members. Either way, it's not that much time. The news is pretty old regardless of when you watch it, not that it's watched for news.

[phatlip12]

Not true. Some of us just don't like hiding a subscription under the guise of a donation. That's all. If you don't get me, think the difference between PBS and HBO. Both have good content, but only one makes you pay for seeing it.

And if Revision3 does want to start shows under a subscription service, please call it that, make it clear, and call it Revision3.1 or something.

Thanks all for listening to the consumers. I am now entering a new "DONATION" to Revision3. Done.

Your logic is flawed though. You don't HAVE to pay for Diggnation as you do shows on HBO. Paying for a membership simply delivers it 2 days early to those that can't wait. The content itself however is still free and made readily available in a reasonable amount of time.

The R3G on the other hand isn't quite a show. It's behind the scenes content which is something often considered to be "premium paid content" (think about certain "Special Edition" DVD's with behind the scenes content that costs more).

[blazes816]

And with this I will officially terminate my rev3 payments. Good day sirs.

[lnknpk04]

I've been a 10$/mo paying member since day one of offering the subscription/donation. Even on a tight budget of a newlywed college student, 10$ simply means that I pack my lunch at work a couple days during the month.

When I heard about R3G being offered as member's only content, I was excited. While I've always enjoyed the benefit of the early diggnation release, I knew that it would always be on mirrors for non members the same day. With R3G, it was different. Even though I knew R3G would be mirrored for non-members eventually, it was nice to see Rev 3 going to the extra effort to offer the subscriber's some exclusive content.

Though I wont be cancelling my subscription in protest or anything, I urge Rev 3 to figure something else out for paying members quickly. By not doing so, the claims of new members only stuff coming down the tubes may begin to seem like empty promises.

[damnedeyez]

Your logic is flawed though. You don't HAVE to pay for Diggnation as you do shows on HBO. Paying for a membership simply delivers it 2 days early to those that can't wait. The content itself however is still free and made readily available in a reasonable amount of time.

The R3G on the other hand isn't quite a show. It's behind the scenes content which is something often considered to be "premium paid content" (think about certain "Special Edition" DVD's with behind the scenes content that costs more).

That's how I was seeing it...you can always wait to catch a movie on cable (pay-per-view is cheaper than the dvd, premium channels if you already subscribe or wait for it to show up on basic/network tv with advertisements) or you can pay for the DVD and get special features (like the Gazette).


The Gazette was one of two reasons I'd started the subscription again...the other being Diggnation being released early enough I could watch it at work on saturdays again. For the time I'll stay a paying member, unless the shows start following the tekzilla lead and put sponsors/ads in the middle of the show.

Oh...and is the gazette going to start having weekly sponsors? It made sense not to, when it was for paying members only...

[nextgenxbox]

I'm pretty sure it's Friday for members and Sunday for non members. Either way, it's not that much time. The news is pretty old regardless of when you watch it, not that it's watched for news.

Sunday Midnight Eastern, which is Saturday 9PM.

[wizmaster]

Sunday Midnight Eastern, which is Saturday 9PM.

I guess it depends on your time zone doesn't it?

[maicowchoy]

I hope at least one person is reading this from Rev3, but it seems like a lot of people are ending their subscriptions with the current events of R3G and InDigital.

I guess if we (paying members) complain enough, we'll get our way (like the non-paying members).

[arcticfox]

What the hell?

Whats the point in releasing subscriber only features only to open them up after a few weeks because people whine about it.

I suppose HD will be the next thing to be open to all when people start whining about that too.

What a joke. With the way its carrying on i can just cancel my subscription and whine and complain till i get what i want for free.

[masherscf]

I hope at least one person is reading this from Rev3, but it seems like a lot of people are ending their subscriptions with the current events of R3G and InDigital.

I guess if we (paying members) complain enough, we'll get our way (like the non-paying members).

I'm not ending my subscription over this. It seems like a silly thing to do.

[firestonex]

I would just like to say that I am not a subscription member. Atleast not at the moment. That's not to say that I don't support Rev3. Or plan on paying in the future. I have bought some shirts. And I have just became unemployed. But the point is, if I could I would donate a lot for this cause. But these people going on about cancelling there subscriptions because you now offer a show for free is crazy. People who do this arn't true fans. I belive that when I do finally decide to donate a monthly amount to this site, that I will be doing it, not for all the bonus features (however awesome they may be) but I will be doing it because I want to support a site that I love and the people who brought it to me, without asking anything from me. That's why I want to donate.


Dustin Forrester
Firestone X

[nimrauko]

I am glad they made the Revision 3 Gazette free for all members. I am a subscriber, but its nice for those who cant afford to do it to see the show. I think its one of the better ones, and the only reason I decided to subscribe was to see it, and to see Diggnation early. But just because the Revision 3 Gazette is free now, I am not going to cancel my subscription.

All the whining here is annoying I must admit, from both sides. If you cant afford it then instead of spending your time in the forums complaining do something about it. Get a second job, or better yet seek counseling, because if you think its the end of the world that you cant see an internet show, you really must have something psychologically wrong.

Anyways, Love the Revision 3 Gazette and I realize the hard work you put into all the shows here, so dont look for my membership to be canceled anytime soon :)

[radzack]

I have never upgraded and I have watched every episode on time...weird?

[browneyez]

I enjoy all the episodes. Thanks for making this available for everyone.:)