Is Alex a bad role model?

[theblackleopard]

Considering Diggnation's young demographic audience, is Alex (an overweight, out of work actor) the right kind of role model for the show?

He doesn't seem to have any career/life aspirations like Kevin and has an 'introverted american' mentality (i.e "I don't give a crap about the Canadian Premier") which with Rev3's growing international market must be detrimental to its audience.

[blazes816]

Who cares if he's overweight? And I'd say yes he is, but not for any of the reasons you stated. But he's still my favorite rev3 star.

[heyseuss]

Considering Diggnation's young demographic audience, is Alex (an overweight, out of work actor) the right kind of role model for the show?

He doesn't seem to have any career/life aspirations like Kevin and has an 'introverted american' mentality (i.e "I don't give a crap about the Canadian Premier") which with Rev3's growing international market must be detrimental to its audience.

He's not a role model in the first place. After that confusion, you were just wrong and wronger.

Unemployed? YOU DO REALISE HOW YOU KNOW OF HIS EXISTENCE RIGHT?


uhDErrrrrrrrrr

[magunwarrior]

The only role models young people should pay attention to are that of parental figures, not some guy on the internet.

[eddielee]

Alex has done nothing wrong in my opinion. Except for that racist satanic cult called Bohemian Grove he went to.

[xibalba]

Didn't you get banned on the TRS forums as theblackpanther or something for constantly trolling and launching personal attacks against Alex before?

[jivetrky]

Seeing as how Alex is a geek/gamer, I would say he fits the demographics just fine.

And I'm guessing he is not out of work otherwise he wouldn't be shooting Diggnation from his apartment but rather from the street. He has 2 rev3 shows, which I'm guessing from which he makes money (I have no idea how rev3 actually works like that). He may be out of work from the acting scene (again I actually have no idea as I don't keep tabs on him) but he doesn't seem to be unemployed.

But even if he was an unemployed, overweight actor (is he really overweight? :rolleyes:) he still is great for the show because he bring comedy and is interesting to watch.

[tempesta]

People don't need role models....they need backbones, so they can come up with their own code of ethics and morals, and dreams and whatever....

Can i say alex is a role model purely to annoy the OP?

[scienceking]

Next you will be saying that Michael Jordan was a bad role model because he wasn't good at Physics, a subject important to the life goals of many of his fans. Being a good role model is more about image than anything. The fact is, Alex(as far as a viewer could tell) lives a clean lifestyle with positive interests who still manages to be an enjoyable entertainment personality. Even if he isn't looking to be the next Gordon Moore or Larry Page as a success story, hes still a good influence on young people in that respect.

Also mind you many"successful" people suffer horrible psychological problems from living an unbalanced life style. I have met some millionaire engineers who became CEOs but after a few years resigned because their family was becoming torn apart by their job, and they had acquired horrible personal habits(like overeating and the "bad kind" of drinking) to compensate for their lifestyle limitations. Sure, there are lots of successful people who live great lives, but many of these people have personal qualities that frankly very very few people have, and to try to use them as role models can find more "normal" people in the former rut of a boat.

I think he is still a "good enough" role model, and in my art of engineering "good enough" is the best status something can have.

[lstone]

I would love to have the life that Alex has. His job is to hang out with his friends and drink, plus he has a nice house and a hot GF...... you might even say that Alex is my hero ;)

BTW I wouldn't even consider him close to being overwieght

[trickeralex]

who cares how fat he is haha, he sounds like he enjoys life to the fullest and thats all that matters =)

[Dazabrit]

This is the funniest (and craziest) thread I have ever seen on Rev3!!!

Give the fat, lazy, umemployed (and incredibly tall) American a break :p

[iccanui]

Well let me just say this. And i mean this with respect.

Take a good look.


http://www.artandantiqueemporium.com/mirror/big-images/mirror_fretwork_english_looking-glass.png


Worry about whats going on in what you see in that mirror and leave others alone. After you figure that out, you wont need to ask if Alex is a good role model. You will know.


To answer you question, yes he is. He is happy, he is a good person and he is following his dreams.


What else is there ? Seriously. Working for a corp like a little mole? Giving you life to someone else so they can profit off you and use you? Helping this society speed up more and more till we are like the asians working 16 hours a week, giving up all we love for the company and the pace of this technological era, forgetting to find peace with in ourselves and forgetting that life is short and you need to enjoy it ? Alex is a fine role model. In fact he is a fantastic one.


Now get back on the mirror thing bro.

[real]

Well let me just say this. And i mean this with respect.

Take a good look.


http://www.artandantiqueemporium.com/mirror/big-images/mirror_fretwork_english_looking-glass.png


Worry about whats going on in what you see in that mirror and leave others alone. After you figure that out, you wont need to ask if Alex is a good role model. You will know.


To answer you question, yes he is. He is happy, he is a good person and he is following his dreams.


What else is there ? Seriously. Working for a corp like a little mole? Giving you life to someone else so they can profit off you and use you? Helping this society speed up more and more till we are like the asians working 16 hours a week, giving up all we love for the company and the pace of this technological era, forgetting to find peace with in ourselves and forgetting that life is short and you need to enjoy it ? Alex is a fine role model. In fact he is a fantastic one.


Now get back on the mirror thing bro.


Well Said everyone is a role model is some way or another

[jc-magnus]

Considering Diggnation's young demographic audience, is Alex (an overweight, out of work actor) the right kind of role model for the show?

He doesn't seem to have any career/life aspirations like Kevin and has an 'introverted american' mentality (i.e "I don't give a crap about the Canadian Premier") which with Rev3's growing international market must be detrimental to its audience.

You sir, I do not like. I doubt that Alex has any influence towards any young viewer. Good day.

[heyseuss]

Don't feed the trolls.

[eminemdrdre00]

If you want to see why Alex is an out of work actor, go check out the opening for The Totally Rad Show episode 28! He calls himself an actor?!

[masherscf]

Alex is not out of work. Revision3 pays him to make videos. Also, most actors are "out-of-work" most of the time.

Also, "Diggnation" is not a show for young people. At least, not people young enough to identify him as a "role model."

Also, what does his weight have to do about anything. Alex seems quite fit to me. Doesn't he visit a gym, at least to oogle Jessica Beil?

[eminemdrdre00]

Well as far as being an "actor" he is out of work. Anyone can stick their butt out a window for a Dell commericial, that doesnt take any acting ability! He's not out of work though, he has lots of side projects as well as what he does on Revison3. I just think hes a TERRIBLE actor! Seriously, go watch the first 2 minutes of TRS episode 28!

[masherscf]

I just think hes a TERRIBLE actor! Seriously, go watch the first 2 minutes of TRS episode 28!

Well, Tom Hanks isn't worried. Although, I think that properly channels, he could be the next Robin Williams.

[blazes816]

Alex has done nothing wrong in my opinion. Except for that racist satanic cult called Bohemian Grove he went to.

Uh, what? When was this?

[deix15x8]

So which is a better role model?
A) A guy with many tattoos, loves to get drunk and has a porn star girl friend.
or
B) A guy who doesn't care to drink, refuses to get tattoos and has an educated girlfriend he has been in a relationship with for years.

Choice "B" seems to be more fit to be a role model in my opinion.

[rpable]

How does having tattoos make somebody a less than desirable role model?

[fernandez]

1. dont feed trolls

2. over 1,000 people can now confirm alex isnt overweight or out of work

3. since we're on the subject of confirming, kevin would kick the shit out of most people, his arms are like redwoods compared to mine, damn i need to goto the gym

[scienceking]

So which is a better role model?
A) A guy with many tattoos, loves to get drunk and has a porn star girl friend.
or
B) A guy who doesn't care to drink, refuses to get tattoos and has an educated girlfriend he has been in a relationship with for years.

Choice "B" seems to be more fit to be a role model in my opinion.

Talk about a post that makes presumptions. First of all, there is nothing wrong with tattoos. In many cultures, they are an almost holy art. And in our culture, many people just get them for fun. Resistance to them is to use dated cultural resistance from 50 years ago. I personally don't like the idea myself, but I can understand the appeal for art lovers to extend art to themselves.

Secondly, Couldn't a porn star also be an educated person who enters committed relationships? Just food for thought! Also, mind you, not everyone is interested in closed relationships, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, if you study human anthropology and evolutionary history, we are more or less wired up for those kind of relationships. Also, whats wrong with being a porn star. To apply your personal discomfort with your sexuality to other people is just a BIT imposing, wouldn't you say?

Also, as someone who doesn't drink despite being 21, I can see nothing wrong with the activity so long as you show respect to the local laws, and follow the advise of your doctor regarding temperance if necessary. I don't drink because it is an expensive, habit, and I'm pretty well booked with those as it is! I also usually am more of a head-centered partier, so I like to be able to hold intelligible conversations during the whole, party, not just the start! But I can understand people's other opinions too.

[gi_josh]

Considering Diggnation's young demographic audience, is Alex (an overweight, out of work actor) the right kind of role model for the show?

He doesn't seem to have any career/life aspirations like Kevin and has an 'introverted american' mentality (i.e "I don't give a crap about the Canadian Premier") which with Rev3's growing international market must be detrimental to its audience.

Okay, you sir are pretty much a dick.

[vhalkirian666]

The only role models young people should pay attention to are that of parental figures, not some guy on the internet.

I disagree...whether or not he wants to be a role model or not doesn't matter. He is a "public figure" who hosts a show watched by a lot of the younger demographic. He has fans that will and do look up to him.

[heyseuss]

I disagree...whether or not he wants to be a role model or not doesn't matter. He is a "public figure" who hosts a show watched by a lot of the younger demographic. He has fans that will and do look up to him.

He didn't say it was 'whether or not he WANTS to be", he said, it doesn't matter because the young fans of the show shouldn't be looking at Alex that way, and if they are, then it's clearly due to the lack of parental presence. It has nothing to do with Alex. Just because kids might look up to him has no bearing on who he is and his behaviour. The threadstarter is a prepubescent idiot, clearly lacking in parental direction as well. It doesn't matter if Alex injects crack onto his penis while reciting satanic chants after pissing on the pope, he has every right to do so, and should feel free to do so whether or not kiddies are influenced.

[adamzx]

blackleopard:

you won't ever be as successful as alex, so where is this hate coming from?

do you know any successful negative people?

most all are high on life, like you see alex in every episode of diggnation and TRS.
he's non stop high-energy, action packed, and in your mother ****ing face.
and thats who he is and why he's so damn good at what he does for a living.


i think you are a bad role model blackleopard.

[xfuuey]

Considering Diggnation's young demographic audience, is Alex (an overweight, out of work actor) the right kind of role model for the show?

He doesn't seem to have any career/life aspirations like Kevin and has an 'introverted american' mentality (i.e "I don't give a crap about the Canadian Premier") which with Rev3's growing international market must be detrimental to its audience.

Someone sounds jealous. VERY JEALOUS! so, get over it loser. i'm not "sucking up" towards alex or anything, but you are a f'in moron for posting that lame statement.

[tnvwboy]

Alex needs to worry about being a role model for kids if/when he becomes a father. Until then he should keep on as he's doing.

Considering both Diggnation and TRS are marked as "Explicit" in iTunes I believe the parents should be involved with their children watching these shows. If not that is a failure on the part of the parents, not Alex. Older teens and adults who want to see Alex as a role model can do so but the results of those actions are THEIR responsibilities, not Alex's

Sounds like the original poster simply doesn't like Alex and is trying to pin him with the failures of others. That's some serious assholery.

[jivetrky]

Alex needs to worry about being a role model for kids if/when he becomes a father. Until then he should keep on as he's doing.

Considering both Diggnation and TRS are marked as "Explicit" in iTunes I believe the parents should be involved with their children watching these shows. If not that is a failure on the part of the parents, not Alex. Older teens and adults who want to see Alex as a role model can do so but the results of those actions are THEIR responsibilities, not Alex's

Sounds like the original poster simply doesn't like Alex and is trying to pin him with the failures of others. That's some serious assholery.

AMEN. It's so easy to blame Alex or Kevin. If there needs to be blame placed, it ONLY should go to the parents. They should be aware of what their children are doing. If their children are trying to view it behind their backs then the parents should be spying on them. Sounds crappy, but it's how good parenting is done. Though i should point out that if their child is trying to do things like that behind their backs, then good parenting probably isn't all there anyway.

It's just like people that blame GTA or something else for their asshole kids. The only people to blame are the parents that didn't care enough to notice that the game was affecting their child, or just didn't care to bother censoring it from them in the first place. Making kids is fun and easy, raising them to be better than yourself is quite difficult and takes TREMENDOUS amounts of energy. And it only seems to increase exponentially as the number of kids increases (I've got a 6 year old and a 3 month old).

So stop blaming 2 dudes on a couch and start blaming the only people that SHOULD be responsible as role models.

[heyseuss]

AMEN. It's so easy to blame Alex or Kevin. If there needs to be blame placed, it ONLY should go to the parents. They should be aware of what their children are doing. If their children are trying to view it behind their backs then the parents should be spying on them. Sounds crappy, but it's how good parenting is done. Though i should point out that if their child is trying to do things like that behind their backs, then good parenting probably isn't all there anyway.

It's just like people that blame GTA or something else for their asshole kids. The only people to blame are the parents that didn't care enough to notice that the game was affecting their child, or just didn't care to bother censoring it from them in the first place.

Agreed. If the kids aren't equipped, it's not the media's fault.

[nextgenxbox]

Out of work? He hosts two shows, 3 if CAC ever comes back. He's gotta be making a nice chunk of change for diggnation... from TRS I don't know, since they don't really have sponsors.

But yea man... I think he's fine in the money dept... far from "unemployed".

I think you're just jealous of his radness.

[chrisnaz]

Since i am padding my post count, ill chime in and say who the **** needs a role model anyhow? Alex is awesome, I am awesome, we are all awesome, now back to gaming.:D

[maxiscool1994]

I feel that alex should not be regarded as a role model. I am 13 years old, and he has not really influenced me.

I agree with the backbone philosophy. I have enough of a firm foundation to not be affected by stupid things (trust me, I am not saying that alex is stupid) and I think that at my present age, I have grown up enough not to be really changed. Plus, I have cool enough parents to stop me if I got really weird.

[gi_josh]

I feel that alex should not be regarded as a role model. I am 13 years old, and he has not really influenced me.

I agree with the backbone philosophy. I have enough of a firm foundation to not be affected by stupid things (trust me, I am not saying that alex is stupid) and I think that at my present age, I have grown up enough not to be really changed. Plus, I have cool enough parents to stop me if I got really weird.

You seem quite smart for a 13 year old. I wish more 13 year olds were like you. Hell, I wish more 20 year olds were like you, haha. Most people are quite impressionable. However, thats not to say that Alex is a bad role model, or a role model at all.

[rabidbadger]

The original poster asked the wrong question when he said: "is Alex a bad role model?"

The quetion might best be stated thusly: "is Alex (or Kevin, or Dan, or Pat...) a role model? Or are they just dudes having fun on camera so the rest of us can have fun watching them?

Why does everyone famous have to be a role model? Just cause they are seen? Some cable comany should start the "role model Channel" and see what kinda ratings they get with nothing but Nuns and Jimmy Carter on it 24/7.

[rabidbadger]

Gi_josh: JINX!!!

[maxiscool1994]

You seem quite smart for a 13 year old. I wish more 13 year olds were like you. Hell, I wish more 20 year olds were like you, haha. Most people are quite impressionable. However, thats not to say that Alex is a bad role model, or a role model at all.

Thanks a lot man.

To rabid badger, I think that you have a better spin on the question. I think that these guys are just having fun (and making money...:) ) on camera, and they leave it up to the discretion of the viewer to make the personal decision of interpreting the various hosts and personalities as role models.

[gi_josh]

Gi_josh: JINX!!!

RabidBadger: Zing!

[gi_josh]

It feels weird calling you RabidBadger, Joel :)

[rabidbadger]

But that's who I am here! Unless it's something personal and important.

It's only when I'm "Joel" that I aspire to be a role model. But anyone thinking of following MY lead: Go ask Alex... (haha- drug humor, see. ignore me) :)

And f... (oops, 13 year old on thread) ...forget about role models, how about Roll Models?

http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/images/pillsbury_boy.jpg

[heyseuss]

Why does everyone famous have to be a role model? Just cause they are seen? Some cable comany should start the "role model Channel" and see what kinda ratings they get with nothing but Nuns and Jimmy Carter on it 24/7.

That would work. Big ratings in the south and mid-west.

[rabidbadger]

Not with JC on it! (Um, that's Jimmy Carter, not Jesus Christ, btw) ha

[scienceking]

Replace Jimmy Carter with Zombie Reagan, and you are SET.

[bputman]

the man is a player and Canada sucks anyways.
all they have is syrup, flapjacks, and universal health care.
big whoop.

[roessnakhan]

I would not call Alex a role model - but given the fun he has - would it be so bad if he were? He just seems like the kind of guy you'd want to hang out with.

[mebe]

the guy seems like a great role model to me.
hes doing his thing, hes kind to everyone and seems very intelligent and well mannered. So his job entails him drinking etc, so does kevin. Why is alex solo'd out like this? Kevin is a manwhore..


and dude...what gives you any right to critique the man's weight or appearance. I mean wtf, think and remember you're talking about a REAL person. Yea so you're safe behind your computer, atleast try to have some semblance of respect and manner.

[mebe]

o and ps the whole out of work actor thing is ridiculous

the guy hosts 2 podcasts, one where he gets blotto'd every week and the other where he has to watch, play, and read the material for the upcoming episode. Including the travelling he does to and fro. He also I believe, produces or edits his girlfriend's cast. Plus the recognizibility factor of being on the number podcast.

[mattsten]

I can't see my reflection in that mirror. Am I a vampire, because that would explain my urge to drain the life out the topic creator...... or am I just psychotic?

[heyseuss]

I can't see my reflection in that mirror. Am I a vampire, because that would explain my urge to drain the life out the topic creator...... or am I just psychotic?

Based on the thread starters views, I'd already consider his life meanigless, dead, irrelevant, what have you. So don't try, cus I think you'd still be thirsty, as this boy seems souless and dumb.

[gi_josh]

I can't see my reflection in that mirror. Am I a vampire, because that would explain my urge to drain the life out the topic creator...... or am I just psychotic?

Be content that we have all sucked the life out of this thread, haha.

[oni-dracula]

Role model? What role exactly is he a model for? Why should anyone care how a person in the public view affects the viewers?

If we're talking young people and children, then all I have to say is: Parenting.
If we're talking about adults, then it doesn't matter in any way shape or form.