what do you think

[skyz]

http://digg.com/offbeat_news/The_Other_White_Meat_Kitty_Anyone_pic

this is at the top of the front page of digg

i am totally disgusted

i am posting it to get feedback and in hopes that kevin will hear about it

i think the submitter should be banned from digg

opinions please thx

[masherscf]

http://digg.com/offbeat_news/The_Other_White_Meat_Kitty_Anyone_pic

this is at the top of the front page of digg

i am totally disgusted

i am posting it to get feedback and in hopes that kevin will hear about it

i think the submitter should be banned from digg

opinions please thx

Tasteless, perhaps, but hardly contrary to the Digg terms and conditions. No one ever got banned from digg just for being stupid and tasteless. They would annihilate their user base.

The picture in the submitted link is actually sorta cute.

[skyz]

if that is fine with digg then i am not fine with digg

either she goes or i do

there are similar sites

on the net you can be yesterday's news in the blink of an eye

[deegraww]

I think you should take it as what it is... A Joke. Also if this picture upsets you don't go to PETA's website or view the seal slide show that gets passed around myspace.

[phatlip12]

Whats wrong with it? It's an obvious joke (and the cat isn't being hurt). Its no different from what I've saw from those stupid "LOL Cats" (god those things annoy me).

[mrpopular]

Lol, is this serious? I was expecting a bloody dead cat. I was squinting when i clicked the link and then after i thought "thats it?" this thread, is a waste of band width.

[skyz]

this thread, is a waste of band width.

i think the same coud be said about a goodly % of the stories on digg

i would love kevin's opinion

it is his name and fame isn't it

i mean digg and diggnation

[phatlip12]

i think the same coud be said about a goodly % of the stories on digg

i would love kevin's opinion

it is his name and fame isn't it

i mean digg and diggnation

Kevin doesn't post on the forums, so I doubt you'll get in answer from him here. You could try Pownce if you REALLY want to get his thoughts on it, I doubt he'll say anything though considering you seem to be the only one offended by it (looking at the comments that is).

[xibalba]

Seems like a joke to me reminds me of bonsai cats.

[deegraww]

Also

Why Post

Like this?

Do you write in Haikus?

not making fun just wondering why.

[skyz]

yes actually i do

my last english prof used to apologize when she gave me a 95 or 97 on my essays

'because you are no longer writing academically'

great i thought neither did t s eliot or james joyce

[skyz]

Kevin doesn't post on the forums, so I doubt you'll get in answer from him here. You could try Pownce if you REALLY want to get his thoughts on it, I doubt he'll say anything though considering you seem to be the only one offended by it (looking at the comments that is).

not quite true

If there were a way to bury a story hundreds of times, I would do it with this one. Manually. foxhaze top comment

thx i will calm down first and think whether to mention it on pownce

i found it very disturbing ~ i am not going to apologize for that ~ but you can close the thread if you want

[kickarse]

EDITED TO BE LESS SPAMMY, PER MASHERSCF COMPLAINT

Anyways, enough with the stupidity. I think I would've given you an F in English class for writing like that. Back on topic, it's a joke, a lot of people actually DO eat cat and dog, go berate them.

[masherscf]

I think that Kick's last post is very spammish.

[kickarse]

^^ Why thank you :P

Geez people, lighten up it's almost Friday.

[masherscf]

^^ Why thank you :P

Geez people, lighten up it's almost Friday.


I'm lightened, I could have deleted it...

[kickarse]

^^ That is true. I applaud your self control (I'm not being facetious).

[skyz]

EDITED TO BE LESS SPAMMY, PER MASHERSCF COMPLAINT

Anyways, enough with the stupidity. I think I would've given you an F in English class for writing like that. Back on topic, it's a joke, a lot of people actually DO eat cat and dog, go berate them.

i would never sign up for your class i am very picky about my professors

i did not berate anyone

as for stupidity i think i will hold my tongue out of respect for the many fine people on this forum

[masherscf]

^^ That is true. I applaud your self control (I'm not being facetious).

No, my little voice told me that it would be a dick thing to do...

[kickarse]

And that is why you're an awesome moderator! Here, here!

[danielus]

xibalba's signature:
There is one certain thing in our lives and that is death is our future.

What will happen beyond death, we dont know with certainty. Maybe we will be transformed into a mouse, dog, wolf, frog, you name it...

[masherscf]

And that is why you're an awesome moderator! Here, here!

Now you're just sucking up.

Believe me, it's much easier to let shit slide then to be all up in the face about it. I expect that's why most online forums suck. Luckily, most of the members of this forum are pretty awesome at practicing self moderation.

There's a reason I teach at college and not high school...

[kickarse]

Plus high school kids smell...


Skyz, you'd also probably be offended by this too... http://www.break.com/pictures/i-ate-a-baby380305.html

[deegraww]

[QUOTE=kickarse;220765]Plus high school kids smell...QUOTE]

That and they aren't legal for the most part.

/sings

"I'm the bad professor"

I won't sing the rest I don't want to get in trouble lol.

[skyz]

Plus high school kids smell...


Skyz, you'd also probably be offended by this too... http://www.break.com/pictures/i-ate-a-baby380305.html

you are kinda being a jerk

there is nothing WRONG with honest emotion

there are many forgivable sins but bad taste is not one of them

[skyz]

xibalba's signature:


What will happen beyond death, we dont know with certainty. Maybe we will be transformed into a mouse, dog, wolf, frog, you name it...

my friends say they want to be reborn as my cat who is treated like royalty by me his slave ;)

[skyz]

Also

Why Post

Like this?

Do you write in Haikus?

not making fun just wondering why.

i tried to send you a sample to answer 'why' as you were not making fun but you do not have pms enabled

minimalism is about leaving out everything that can be left out so the meaning has direct impact

i am about meaning

and to quote einstein 'everything should be made as simple as possible but no simpler'

as a musician i had an epiphany when i realized that the silence (or rests) framed the music

that you could write a composition by putting in the pattern of rests (silence) first and then adding the notes

[kickarse]

That's interesting, I've found minimalism to be cold and emotionless. I wasn't being a "jerk" I was just trying to understand the images/actions that cause you to cringe.

Taste is subject to opinion based on the persons own emotional makeup and moral values. So, yes it might be in bad taste for you, but I highly doubt most felt the same way.

But I suppose it boils down to as is such, if you don't like it don't look at it, read it, or talk about it. It's your issue if you choose to do that and get miffed about it.

[xibalba]

This usually offends people

http://www.shorty.com/bonsaikitten/index.html

[ariastar]

Sweetie, it's just a joke. The kitty is fine. I'd even take a picture of Yoda in a frying pan with veggies, and would be likely to post it here! If the picture used a dead cat, even if it was a cat picked up from the side of the road already dead, then it'd be sick and I'd be upset too. But no cat was hurt, the cat looks comfy, and it's really just meant as a joke.

Also, half the stories on Digg are total dumb things that, well, make me doubt humanity.

[xibalba]

Plus high school kids smell...


Skyz, you'd also probably be offended by this too... http://www.break.com/pictures/i-ate-a-baby380305.html

I cracked up laughing at the pic. hah :D

[skyz]

Also, half the stories on Digg are total dumb things that, well, make me doubt humanity.

that is it

thx

maybe it is the kind of joke that goes with drinking beer which leaves me out of the loop

it made me cry not just for that but all the animal cruelty there is

like i see in stores toys for kids that are made from real cat fur and i am absolutely horrified

i did manage to talk one store out of carrying those products

besides i am moving and i am stressed to the max

and i am a girl and have my overly sensitive moments

[kickarse]

and i am a girl and have my overly sensitive moments


You could have said that in the beginning. I wouldn't have been as harsh. It explains everything! And not in a bad way.

[skyz]

you were harsh ;)

[vhalkirian666]

This usually offends people

http://www.shorty.com/bonsaikitten/index.html

offended..not really...sickened is more like it.

[skyz]

continuing in the general direction of 'what's your problem it's funny' you arrive

here (http://www.theginblog.com/2007/10/artist-chains-up-dog-until-it-dies-is-this-art-or-animal-abuse/)

i rest my case

[kickarse]

I think we all understand that there are cases where there is animal cruelty which isn't funny and having some fun with a cute little animal where the intent is "Who would ever want to eat such a furry, cute animal!?"

I see these acts of "joking" as a way to bring up animal cruelty awareness. I'm sure some of us have seen the show Animal Precinct and feel for these emaciated and abused animals.

BUT, we also have to remember that animals ARE NOT humans and do not have the same rights that we do. If there child and a dog in the middle of the road about to be killed by a car, I would save the child first, even if that child were being cruel to the animal.

I personally hate it when people are cruel to ANY animals. We had kids in our neighborhood growing up who would try and shoot squirrels with bows and arrows. I'd chase the kids off but I'm sure some squirrels were not as fortunate as those the days I did that.

Many times I have had to pick up dead or dieing animals off the street to give them a decent death. One time on the way to school a cat ran into a busy road and got hit really bad. I ran into the oncoming traffic and picked up the dieing animal. I felt so bad... He pied on me (as dieing animals usually let their bowels go) and was bleeding out his ears and mouth. The most I could do was keep him comfortable till his death, dieing in my arms. Heart wrenching to say the least.

So I think its just that an experience makes people more or less sensitive about certain things. It's possible that skyz has dealt with animal cruelty first hand and is highly sensitive about it (not a bad thing), not overly sensitive. But unfortunately the whole (digg users) world doesn't agree with her completely.

[phatlip12]

continuing in the general direction of 'what's your problem it's funny' you arrive

here (http://www.theginblog.com/2007/10/artist-chains-up-dog-until-it-dies-is-this-art-or-animal-abuse/)

i rest my case

This story isn't related to what we're discussing though. The original story was a joke, no animals were hurt...you took it the wrong way HARDCORE.

This is an actual NEWS (I'm assuming, the site is down but I read the headline on Digg).

How does that rest your case on the original story being offensive?

[skyz]

This story isn't related to what we're discussing though. The original story was a joke, no animals were hurt...you took it the wrong way HARDCORE.

This is an actual NEWS (I'm assuming, the site is down but I read the headline on Digg).

How does that rest your case on the original story being offensive?

i'll use some analogy to explain as best i can

how many times in the throes of a new romance do you think that a lover has said 'if i ever lost you i would kill myself' or 'i would kill anyone who ever took you from me' and at that stage these comments are met with laughs and hugs and kisses and 'i would never ever leave you'

but then time passes and as we all know sometimes people actually do these things

another analogy how often do you think a parent who would 'never strike their child' raises their hand in the air to not strike but symbolize 'enough' but still smiling

and from that after a rough day they may actually strike their child

and on a really bad day when they lost their job their suprime mortgage just skyrocketed and the child is being really outrageously annoying a parent snaps and hurts their child or even kills it

i was talking to a policeman and asked him what kind of crime was prevalent on miami beach

he told me it was mostly crowd control for big events and i asked him about violent crime like murder

in the last year he said their were six murders on miam i beach all solved and ALL DOMESTIC SITUATIONS

once i was speaking to a psych and asking her some things and i remember her saying 'anyone can become psychotic anyone'

from joking about the gruesome to actual gruesome is actuality

in buddhism the main 'practice' is 'mindfulness' which means being self aware so that 'negative impulses' are caught at their incepient level

joking about them is incepient level

even on the second story someone commented 'i don't know about art but i know what i like and I LIKE THAT' and he was dugg up

do you see the connection ?

also their is the copycat syndrome where someone might see the 'joke' but actually put it into practice ~ it is not uncommon that people will do cruel things out of revenge or for pleasure

our current commander in chief used to blow up frogs with firecrackers as a kid ~ you don't think there is any connection to that and that he so blithely blows real people up ?

[skyz]

I have had to pick up dead or dieing animals off the street to give them a decent death. One time on the way to school a cat ran into a busy road and got hit really bad. I ran into the oncoming traffic and picked up the dieing animal. I felt so bad... He pied on me (as dieing animals usually let their bowels go) and was bleeding out his ears and mouth. The most I could do was keep him comfortable till his death, dieing in my arms. Heart wrenching to say the least.

So I think its just that an experience makes people more or less sensitive about certain things. It's possible that skyz has dealt with animal cruelty first hand and is highly sensitive about it (not a bad thing), not overly sensitive. But unfortunately the whole (digg users) world doesn't agree with her completely.

you are very sweet

when i was a little girl as i was getting off the bus from school my cat started to run to me from under my stepmother's car and was run over and killed right in front of me because of me

i buried the cat and then some dogs dug it up and were playing with the body

when my bf and i broke up because he got into drugs deeply i was left with nine cats actually i would not let him take any of them because he was totally coked out

i worked hard to take care of them and i had never worked a day in my life before

the apartment belonged to my bf's family and my family which is in real estate bought the apartment from them

when i decided to become a music major my family withdrew their support and i moved (since i was an honors scholar it did not affect my education)

since i could not take nine cats into a rental situation i had to hold five of them in my arms while the vet who came to my house put them to sleep

people said 'why did you not give them away or just let them loose'

because they knew nothing but my love and care and i could not mentally handle the odds that they would be abandonded confused sufferring at any point in their lives

years later i was renting a condo and the dinky condo board tried to fine my landlady $100 a day unless i got rid of my indoor cat

that would never happen

i filed a complaint under the fair housing act and i prevailed ~ they were big time pissed

a friend had left one of her cats in my care (outside) and he was the sweetest thing but they got on my case about him and one day soon after i prevailed he was gone

people have been cruel to me via my pets

i have had pets die that might have not with better vet care ~ i took them and i paid but i felt that sometimes the vets were not doing their best or their best wasn't very good

i know that the core group at digg is not of the same mindframe

actually it is the younger kids that seem to be growing up with greater heart and greater awareness of the environment and living creatures

i am sorry to be driving everyone crazy but sometimes the horrors of life invade even the lives of people who live in safety and comfort with our laptops and ipods etc. and i am just freaked by it lately

i think i will take a break from digg maybe permanently which i regret because there are some great stories on digg

for digg i know one person does not matter but i wonder if others have not come to the same conclusion

if i were kevin i would think about that

if it were my website i would definitely think very deeply about that

and i plan to have my own website and i know on my site there will be editors screening the lower elements even if it causes my site to fail or not do as well

thank you for your patience

[xibalba]

offended..not really...sickened is more like it.

It's fake when I first saw the site years ago I sickened by it. After looking into it found out it was fake and I believe the FBI investigated the people behind site or something also.

[phatlip12]

i'll use some analogy to explain as best i can

how many times in the throes of a new romance do you think that a lover has said 'if i ever lost you i would kill myself' or 'i would kill anyone who ever took you from me' and at that stage these comments are met with laughs and hugs and kisses and 'i would never ever leave you'

but then time passes and as we all know sometimes people actually do these things

another analogy how often do you think a parent who would 'never strike their child' raises their hand in the air to not strike but symbolize 'enough' but still smiling

and from that after a rough day they may actually strike their child

and on a really bad day when they lost their job their suprime mortgage just skyrocketed and the child is being really outrageously annoying a parent snaps and hurts their child or even kills it

i was talking to a policeman and asked him what kind of crime was prevalent on miami beach

he told me it was mostly crowd control for big events and i asked him about violent crime like murder

in the last year he said their were six murders on miam i beach all solved and ALL DOMESTIC SITUATIONS

once i was speaking to a psych and asking her some things and i remember her saying 'anyone can become psychotic anyone'

from joking about the gruesome to actual gruesome is actuality

in buddhism the main 'practice' is 'mindfulness' which means being self aware so that 'negative impulses' are caught at their incepient level

joking about them is incepient level

even on the second story someone commented 'i don't know about art but i know what i like and I LIKE THAT' and he was dugg up

do you see the connection ?

also their is the copycat syndrome where someone might see the 'joke' but actually put it into practice ~ it is not uncommon that people will do cruel things out of revenge or for pleasure

our current commander in chief used to blow up frogs with firecrackers as a kid ~ you don't think there is any connection to that and that he so blithely blows real people up ?


Your post just reminded me of that episode of Family Guy where Peter saw a bag blowing in the wind and he went on and on talking about how mystical god and life was. After Peter is done babbling you see God on a cloud and he says "It's just a freaking bag blowing in the wind! Do you have any idea how complex your circulatory system is".

It was a joke. There is no deeper to meaning to "Why did the chicken cross the road". It's either makes you laugh or it doesn't. Lighten up some! ;)

[heyseuss]

Your post just reminded me of that episode of Family Guy where Peter saw a bag blowing in the wind and he went on and on talking about how mystical god and life was.

You know that was a parody from American Beauty right ? Also very funnily well done in Not Another Teen Movie

[deegraww]

You know that was a parody from American Beauty right ? Also very funnily well done in Not Another Teen Movie

"She can't be prom queen she has glasses and a ponytail and she's wearing overalls with paint on them..."

Best thing about that movie was the exchange student.

[heyseuss]

"She can't be prom queen she has glasses and a ponytail and she's wearing overalls with paint on them..."

Best thing about that movie was the exchange student.

Her name was Areola or something wasn't it. There was alot of "best thing about's" in that movie. One funny thing after another. Randy Quaid calling his daughter pumpkin tits, had me rolling.

"why is it, whenever I tell guys they can put it whereever they want, they always put it in my ass?"

I'm not quoting the next line. ;]

"damn", "shit", "that is wack!"

[kickarse]

Negative thoughts can be introduced with out your knowledge. Very similar to osmosis. We are in the "air" of this world, as it permeates around us. We can't get out of it and we can't really combat it.

Just because a negative thought might be introduced does not mean that you will harbor on it or be provoked to action or continued thinking. We have control over our minds in the fashion that we can, after thinking of something, choose to do it or not. Continued thought will give way to action, but that's only after conscientious and continued effort in that line of thought. If someone says something bad/wrong there is NO way to take it back out of our minds or to not think it at least once, thats an incipient thought. It's a seed, but that seed doesn't always root. It's the germination that you need to be worried about. There's a saying "don't let a bird nest" or in other words how long are you going to let something simmer before action or before you get rid of that thought.

But all this is relying on that we all have the same moral groundwork.

I think expending our energies into a online "forum" to persuade or rally others to/that think the way we do is perhaps the least efficient use of our time and purposes.

[deegraww]

Her name was Areola or something wasn't it. There was alot of "best thing about's" in that movie. One funny thing after another. Randy Quaid calling his daughter pumpkin tits, had me rolling.

"why is it, whenever I tell guys they can put it whereever they want, they always put it in my ass?"

I'm not quoting the next line. ;]

"damn", "shit", "that is wack!"

"I don't sleep with boys that confess their undying love for me"
/sadface
"I give them hand jobs"

[skyz]

action


i vocabularized 5000 grains of rice (digg) in the wee hours

i ordered a brand new bed for my new apartment

AND

i bought a BEER

:cool:

[heyseuss]

"I don't sleep with boys that confess their undying love for me"
/sadface
"I give them hand jobs"

/happyface. Pity I find lacey chabert and her gauntness repulsive, however I found it hilarious that she was playing a parody of Jennifer-Love-Hugetit, a former workmate. I saw that main guy Ethan Embry who played Mark in Empire Records, sitting on the floor of a grocery aisle playing with a baby once. His wife/gf/baby's momma was doing the shopping. It was about 12:30 at night and it was pretty much just us in the place as customers.

EDIT; Wait, Ethan Embry was the main guy from the movie they were parodying, Can't Hardly Wait, who was the guy that lacey chabert said that line to? Was it one of the 3 young guys who did the Breakfast Club parody ?

[skyz]

But all this is relying on that we all have the same moral groundwork.

I think expending our energies into a online "forum" to persuade or rally others to/that think the way we do is perhaps the least efficient use of our time and purposes.

you are very practical

are you a capricorn :D

it's all good

i have used this experience to begin thinking on how i am going to gather/use 'editors' to pick the best content

i want a classy gorgeous site

it is my idea i can have it anyway i want as long as there is benefit for others involved

i never got to be prom queen 'cause i went to catholic girl's boarding school

:)

[deegraww]

/happyface. Pity I find lacey chabert and her gauntness repulsive, however I found it hilarious that she was playing a parody of Jennifer-Love-Hugetit, a former workmate. I saw that main guy Ethan Embry who played Mark in Empire Records, sitting on the floor of a grocery aisle playing with a baby once. His wife/gf/baby's momma was doing the shopping. It was about 12:30 at night and it was pretty much just us in the place as customers.

EDIT; Wait, Ethan Embry was the main guy from the movie they were parodying, Can't Hardly Wait, who was the guy that lacey chabert said that line to? Was it one of the 3 young guys who did the Breakfast Club parody ?

it was janie's brother that she said it to.

[kickarse]

No I'm not and I don't believe in astrological signs. People are not innately a certain way based on their birth date. If they grow up believing that is so then they'd be more or less inclined to act a certain way. Besides those types of things are fairly vague and could be applied to almost any individual not within the specific time frame.

Anyways, I think there's a bigger issue brewing. I'm curious as to why you felt the need to have the cats killed instead of giving them up for adoption? It's almost as if you felt nobody else could care for these animals the way that you did and the the only option was to kill them all.

The animals were NOT dieing from some ailment or in the line for any type of abuse. They were not ferocious or carried any type of transmittable diseases (rabbis, etc.). The reason why the "vet" came to your house is because the any shelter would have called the animal cruelty police. It's shameful to kill an animal only because you don't know what it's future might be and it's possible that it might not be great. But everything deserves a chance to live. It's possible that they might have had an even BETTER life than the one currently, I mean come on 9 cats in one small apartment?

I'm not trying to accuse you of anything mean or cruel. It's possible that you're mind frame wasn't stable, might not be still, and you didn't really have full control of your emotions or thought process. Or your history is such that you feel that animals are possessions and not as precious lives. Or you don't fully understand or have a skewed aspect what it means to truly cherish life.

Not trying to castigate you, just trying to help you understand.

[skyz]

..........

[cyber34]

I've skimmed the thread, but I just have to say that the picture in that article is very cute.

I really don't get the whole "The submitter should be banned thing", It's obviously a joke. People joke about a lot of things. I don't think any normal person would have any bad feelings towards this story. I think AriaStar made all the relevant points a while back.

Lastly, I dugg the story for the cute picture alone, so that maybe more people will see this cute picture.

Edit: Bah didn't see that last post before I posted this message.
i think maybe in this case it is you that might have 'issues'
I do believe you should take another glance at what's been said.

[kickarse]

Trust me those cats had a good life and what makes you think it was a small apartment it was a three bedroom apartment with an enclosed deck around two sides and in florida so lots of sun all year long never cold in or out they ate organic dry food (newman's own) real people tuna nutritional yeast and drank bottled water and the litter boxes were changed every day. The astrological bit was a joke you could tell by this :D

A friend of mine had the same opinion you do about my decision but later came to me and told me 'i realize what you did was very kind' the cats were all about 7 years old they were two family's of mother and kittens i kept one, i gave one away to a neighbor but he was so terrified he would not eat or drink water and hid in the kitchen cabinets so i took him back what are the odds of finding homes with people not only taking decent care of them but paying vet bills as they aged or became ill plus they were used to each other no one was going to take all of them and they were used to me being there all their lives.

I certainly was not going to throw them on the 'mercy' of a shelter only to most likely be euthanized later after suffering fear and trauma that would have been the easy way out and the reason the vet came to my house was not a conspiracy of animal cruelty ~ you are mighty quick to question not only my integrity but his that vet always came to the house to give them their shots and checkups it was first class treatment and i consulted with him on the best thing to do he knew them from birth to death as i did

It was one of the most awful things that ever happened to me

I begged my stepmonster to just give me the apartment as my share of my father's estate then i could have kept them but she wanted to be a control freak plus since she was my father's secretary since i was 7 she had 'importance' issues. I am my father's only child but since it requires dealing with her i am not even going to ty to collect that share.

If she contacts my lawyer fine otherwise she can eat it i have not spoken to her since i left the apartment between her and my long time bf flaking out on me i was having a really really really rough time if he wasn't all coked out he could have taken them after all we raised them together they were our family, btw i never did any coke ever.

You have used the word berate twice and castigate once. I think maybe in this case it is you that might have 'issues' you told me to 'get over it' yet you want to 'not' castigate me by castigating me (saying you are not when you are does not work i'm not that stupid actually i'm not stupid at all)

What are the odds of finding homes for them separate from each other with people not only taking decent care of them but paying vet bills as they aged or became ill.

anyway thx for the valuable lesson

i will keep my emotions to myself

let's drop it ok
i am anywhichway
have a nice day


It's interesting the conclusions you come to. I never said that you were stupid, nor was I implying that you were.

I never said NOT to share your emotions. Just a forum is possibly not the best outlet, a psychiatrist or a good friend are much better.

I never said the cats had a BAD life, just that 9 cats in one house is a bit much. Even if it is a 3 bedroom.

The idea that a shelter is a place of cruelty is an OLD MYTH. It's not that way anymore. I've had to give up my animals before, BUT I'd only do it if they would be treated well. Besides, who really goes to a animal shelter to find an animal with the intent to abuse? They do happen to check people out.

I never said it wasn't awful to have the animals put to sleep, but it was also a self imposed emotional conflict. I get that you just didn't want to chance their lives. Perhaps your motto is there are things worse than death and bad owner can do all of them? I just find it greedy and impractical and, honestly, as cruel as the people you were trying to save them from.

I'm not punishing you. Unless you feel that a verbal discussion is punishment. I'm trying to help you understand through reasoning, NOT punishment, that killing an animal just because you don't _feel_ that they'd have a good life outside of your care is CRUEL and is just as wrong as treating them horribly. That everything living things deserves a chance at life, to not be outed the chance because of some personal ideal that you _feel_ you must uphold, lest anyone else not hold to your standards of Brewers Yeast and Organic Cat food (feral cats live on their own just healthily without human intervention, with a healthy helping of birds and squirrels and other wild delicacies).

Alas, I won't continue any longer. However, I plead that you never, EVER, own another animal. I fear that if you feel the need that you may have to give them up you'd want to have them killed first than have the self imposed emotional torment of letting them maybe live with a bad family or a good family.

I understand that not everyone can articulate themselves well or formulate sentences properly. I'm sorry if I've misunderstood you in any degree. But, I suppose the point of a forum, any type of forum, is to get an opinion of the people. Whether we like it or not is a different story. It seems that you just didn't like what some of us had to say.

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Since you asked for opinion.

Paraphrasing an earlier post; you said that you couldn't take nine cats with you to a rental, so you held five of them in your arms while some quack vet put them to sleep. Why? Because only you could love and care for them and no one else would ever live up to your standards at any point in their lives.

Well, I hate to break the news, but you seem to think you have a monopoly on love and care. And, that quack vet that was found should lose their license, if they ever had one to begin with.

I apologize if I offended you, but I find it appalling that you complained about an obvious joke picture and don't see the hypocrisy in killing five healthy kitties for no other reason then your mental stability.

[skyz]

I understand that not everyone can articulate themselves well or formulate sentences properly. I'm sorry if I've misunderstood you in any degree. But, I suppose the point of a forum, any type of forum, is to get an opinion of the people. Whether we like it or not is a different story. It seems that you just didn't like what some of us had to say.

i just noticed your 'editing' of my post

you have absolutely no right to quote me and alter what i have written other than to limit it to what you wish to address

i am fine with everyone's opinions including yours

i am not fine with you making libelous accusations

nor am i fine with your diagnosing me

you are not a lawyer nor a judge

you are not a psychiatrist nor a psychologist nor do you understand the difference

a psychiatrist pushes pills

a psychologist gives talk therapy

and you suck as an editor

in this entire conversation i have been polite to you

and you did obliquely call me stupid earlier in the thread

accused me of a felonius act

and implied that you were qualified to judge mental stability

i think you have way over reached your capacities

now you all can run on all you like

because i now know what i need to know

that the post and type of post i mentioned has appeal to the lowest common denominator not the highest common denominator

that is valuable to me

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^^To Skyz previous message (because she doesn't like to be edited).

I only put in proper punctuation made some paragraphs because it was something that was very long to quote. Thanks for the kinds words on my editing skills.

I was not defaming you. You said what you said and people have made that conclusion on their own. Nor was I being your psychologist or psychiatrist. Nor was I in any round about way saying that I wanted to be. Nor did I imply that you were stupid, you just took it the wrong way, like everything else it seems. However, I do feel that killing an animal because it can't be loved the way you want it to be is wrong and criminal. I would have NO doubts that any other, dare I say sane, Vet would not corroborate or condone the actions of that one Vet.

Just curious, what if you had foster children that you could no longer care for? Would you go all Kevorkian on them?

Did you mean overreached my abilities? I never claimed to have any abilities or "capacities". Sorry if you took what I said as rude. That was not my intent. Sometimes we don't like to hear what we need to hear. Sometimes it doesn't click right away. Sometimes we get very, very defensive and upset. That's life.

Bah, this is becoming idiotic. Someone lock the thread.

[phatlip12]

So let me get this straight....

It's wrong to take a harmless picture where a cat is caused no harm but it's perfectly acceptable to put a healthy animal to sleep because you can no longer keep them?

Wow- thats all I can really say to that.