Tryptophan Overload: Thanksgivings and Misgivings - General Discussion for 11/21/07 [Archive]

paper

11-21-2007, 01:29 PM

Happy Thanksgiving, people.

What are we thankful for this year?

Me, I'm thankful that back in the Fall I parted ways with my tonsils. I'd decided to enjoy a classic recovery. Ice cream and comic books. Over the past few years I'd been reading trades off and on. But in preparation for the surgery I decided to pick up a whole stack of things to read. Ultimate Spider-Man, New Avengers, a little Batman. Runaways. And this led me to iFanboy, and eventually the forums. And few days have passed where I haven't talked nonsense over with you folks. There would be no Fuzzy Typewriter, and I can think of a couple of other developments that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.

So this year I'm thankful for you guys. All the recommendations, advice, and laughs.

Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday weekend.

mikegraham6

11-21-2007, 03:18 PM

awwww, that's sweet :)

im thankful that fred changed his avatar.... wait a minute.... no im not, Fred- What's up wit dat?!?!?! :(

horatio616

11-21-2007, 03:24 PM

Right now I'm reading that the 'turkey causes drowsiness' thing is myth. Stay tuned.

fred

11-21-2007, 03:29 PM

First I want to say OH YEAHHHHHHHH!

I'm thankful for porn, liquor, my chlidren, and chilly November rain.

mikegraham6

11-21-2007, 03:38 PM

we got our first snowfall today, i guess some people would be thankful for that, im not one them :mad:

luthor

11-21-2007, 04:32 PM

I'm thankful that this rotten year is almost over and for socks.

It was almost 60 when I got up this morning, it is now 45 and raining. It's being predicted that it will be in the 30s with snow before nightfall. I can't wait for Star Trekie weather modifying things.

luthor

11-21-2007, 04:47 PM

Hoping this doesn't cause "that" kind of conversation...

Z-Cult FM got a cease and desist.

fred

11-21-2007, 05:02 PM

demonoid's been down about 2 weeks too

mikegraham6

11-21-2007, 05:22 PM

Hoping this doesn't cause "that" kind of conversation...

Z-Cult FM got a cease and desist.

what's that?

fred

11-21-2007, 05:30 PM

zcultfm was a comic torrent site

It was like a whole thing, you had to know people who'd tell you where the trackers were and the like. I think they tried to keep it small.

labor_days

11-21-2007, 05:35 PM

Z-Cult FM = the Oink of Comic Book downloads?

I hate that Demonoid went down. Got a lot of good BBC shows off there with great speeds. Now I have to go elsewhere and the speed isn't nearly as good. Le sigh.

fred

11-21-2007, 05:45 PM

If I actually used BT (;)), I'd have been really annoyed about the demonoid thing.

kahunablair

11-21-2007, 05:49 PM

IF I actually used anything like BT, I'd imagine it would constantly crash my computer no matter what program I'd imaginarily use... You know if, and all.

fred

11-21-2007, 05:51 PM

I've heard that uTorrent probably wouldn't.

luthor

11-21-2007, 05:54 PM

Hypothetically speaking, if you were having that problem and if you were behind a network, I'd(hypothetically) check portforward.com.

kahunablair

11-21-2007, 05:57 PM

Back into the spirit of the thread title...

Looking over this past year, I actually have a lot of things to be thankful for.
This time last year...
- My kick-ass boss had just been transferred
- I was in fear of being one of the people the New Boss was going to Cull,
- I had just found out that the House I was in the process of getting ready to rent, wasn't on the market anymore because of some "family issues" the landlord was having.
- All of that dead-end, what am I doing with my life had been compounded with the fact that I was turning 25, and for some reason I was taking it really hard.

THIS YEAR:
- I quit my old job, and within an hour of giving my notice, My old Kick-ass boss called me. She offered me a job.
- The new Job pays more, less stressful, I get pretty much free-reign, and I got a schedule that is Ten times better then anything else I've ever worked.
- A friend of mine and I are looking for Apartments/houses now, with hopes of moving in sometime after January.
- I've lived almost a full year at 25, and it's no big woop.
-Plus I've discovered this place, which pretty much goes against 75% of the Internet Stereotypes. From it I've been spurred on to go back to drawing and using my creative side, that I haven't really tapped into in almost 5 years.
-OH and it's a beautiful 60 degrees and Sunny outside.

kahunablair

11-21-2007, 06:00 PM

I've heard that uTorrent probably wouldn't.
I'd imagine I would have already tried that with the same results.

Hypothetically speaking, if you were having that problem and if you were behind a network, I'd(hypothetically) check portforward.com.
Hypothetically, I wouldn't be behind any network.

I'd think that the programs may have worked and started to possibly download files, but without fail, about half way in, the program may crash my computer.

If I were ever to try it, I'd have probably given up on that route and instead turned my eyes towards things like rapidshare.com or something similar.

(This weird non-commital Bizarro speak is making my brain hurt...)

fred

11-21-2007, 06:02 PM

could your computer hypothetically have a virus?

have it's hamsters died?

kahunablair

11-21-2007, 06:05 PM

could your computer hypothetically have a virus?

have it's hamsters died?

Nope.
There would be no reason for it to happen. That's mainly why I think the Fake me probably would have just said "oh well" and taken to a different route for his EVIL, evil ways.

labor_days

11-21-2007, 06:10 PM

Usually when people have problems with torrent clients- it's either poor configuration on their part or some software conflict with their machine.

The only torrent client that crashed on me constantly was Azureus on my Macbook. But that was minor. Other then that it's smooth sailing on the pirate ship for me; Windows, Linux and Mac.

luthor

11-21-2007, 06:38 PM

Bizarro speak is making my brain hurt...)

You're not having problems with your Bittorrent client? That's great! I definitely wouldn't check out Slyck.com and it would be foolish to read through the forums and FAQs.

esophagus

11-21-2007, 08:26 PM

Peper's right, I've really got to say how much I truly am thankful for the forums. I've changed a ton in the past five months, and I think for the better. I read more, comics and other-wise, I'm generally happier (I won't go into the details, because it seems tacky, but you guys have put my therapist out of work... Or one of hundreds of clients), and I think just generally a better guy. It's been fun, and hopefully will be for a long time. Hope it lasts, and all that sappy junk.

I'm also thankful for lasagna. It's awesome.

six-gun

11-21-2007, 11:44 PM

I am thankful for all the usual stuff, God and family and all of my blessings.

Also Halo 3

luthor

11-21-2007, 11:54 PM

From Serj the site op from Z Cult FM:

Ok news update, home from work and just had a cup of tea.... more to come soon.

jk.

We got legal letters from both Marvel and DC Comics who have been working together to send us these legal threats. We are currently dealing with the legal issues and they have given us 3 days before they are forced to take anymore action..

Z-Cult FM website was put offline last night by me (no one else) after I got the email while in work and issued a code red alert (we have drills also 5 times a year). We decide putting the site offline was best course of action to analyse the situation and decide our best course of action. We have confirmed one of the legal letters is 100% from DC Comics when a phone call was made to DC Comics who confirmed the email and its contents. As of today we was unable to contact Marvel and we are trying again tomorrow just to 100% confirm it.

Today we decided it was time to bring site back online but without the torrent and download sections. One of Marvels demands was we take down Z-Cult FM for good but we will never let the main Z-Cult FM site die even if that means torrent free.

We are currently deciding our future and working on it as we speak. We will do our best to keep everyone happy but our future decissions might cause some of our users to think we have given in, but this isn't the case, we are just currently working through this situation and taking the best course of action to keep the site up and our staff safe.

What can you do? All we require from our users is support. Kind words and hugs will be fine. Do not cause any trouble that will give Z-Cult FM a bad name. If you think the publishers were wrong please express it here as its your right to protect but I do not want Z-Cult FM's name dragged through mud because of some users actions which could occur if people decide more extreme protests are required.

Keep checking back and we will be sure to update everyone with latest news. Be sure to visit our chat room if you have any questions or want to talk to me or other Z-Cult FM staff.

Do not believe any rumors as we have not spoken to any news sites, such as newsarama, so any news sites have are just guesses. We have facts and will give you these facts. We do seem to have spies thou such as some news sites snooping in our IRC chat room :-p

fred

11-22-2007, 12:01 AM

Marvel and Dc are working together? Well, something good did come out of this.

Let's all hold hands.

luthor

11-22-2007, 12:06 AM

Marvel and Dc are working together? Well, something good did come out of this.

Let's all hold hands.

Do we sing Kumbaya or Give Peace a Chance?

cam-

11-22-2007, 12:08 AM

I always err on the side of "Don't stop believing"

fred

11-22-2007, 12:34 AM

I was thinking Imagine or The **** Shop.

itsbecca

11-22-2007, 02:12 AM

Right now I'm thankful for the time off from work, for video games, for fuzzy animals that lay on or by me as I relaaaax. I'm also hoping to very soon be thankful for the student loan that will hopeful get final approval and hopefully be dispersed to me quick enough to hopefully pay tuition on time. Hopefully. If that happens I will be very thankful indeed that all my ducks are finally in a row for me to get back to school. Very very very THANKFUL!

six-gun

11-22-2007, 02:56 AM

I worked nine straight hours today with no lunch break. I am exhausted

luthor

11-22-2007, 04:09 AM

fred

11-22-2007, 04:13 AM

I need a recommendation, boys and girls. I was just challenged to find a comic for a potential date. I threw down the "favorite movie, TV show and book" query and she gave me back a book I've never read, a movie I've never heard of and ER. Can ya help me out?

Movie: The Power of One
TV: ER
Book: The Time Traveler's Wife.

Danka shane.

first things first: The recommendation is either Strangers in Paradise or Maus. It could go either way.

second thing: I just saw a video WAY worse than the eel soup thing I always used to talk about. I expect nightmares. people are ****ed up.

labor_days

11-22-2007, 04:56 AM

2girls1cup? I've had that nightmare.

luthor

11-22-2007, 05:19 AM

2girls1cup? I've had that nightmare.

DO NOT GOOGLE THAT!!!

There are some things you cannot unsee.

fred

11-22-2007, 05:36 AM

2girls1cup? I've had that nightmare.

thasstheone

esophagus

11-22-2007, 05:50 AM

Kids werew talking about that in class today. I chose to ignore it after hearing Goatse mentioned in the same breath.

On a much more positive note my house just sold, after months and months of trying. We were going to take it off the market next year. I should be in the city by my birthday. Yay!

six-gun

11-22-2007, 02:24 PM

If you're watching the Thanksgiving day parade watch for the Ooltewah High School marching band (they're dressed like clowns) I have a bunch of friends in the band

fred

11-22-2007, 04:37 PM

six-gun

11-22-2007, 04:55 PM

If you're watching the Thanksgiving day parade watch for the Ooltewah High School marching band (they're dressed like clowns) I have a bunch of friends in the band

they rocked the house

itsbecca

11-22-2007, 05:14 PM

This is too funny not to mention. Someone wrote a book about leadership and passion called The Fred Factor (http://www.amazon.com/dp/184413816X?tag=thweinco-20&camp=211493&creative=379997&linkCode=op1&creativeASIN=184413816X&adid=16WAN3TDHKKXQNDZPXXE&).

"What a great example Fred's are to this world. The Fred Factor has helped me to be more aware of the Fred's that I might encounter each day.Everyone should have a copy of this book!"

Fred. I just want you to know you've turned the Ordinary into the Extraordinary in my daily internet life.

fred

11-22-2007, 05:29 PM

"What a great example Fred's are to this world. The Fred Factor has helped me to be more aware of the Fred's that I might encounter each day.Everyone should have a copy of this book!"

Fred. I just want you to know you've turned the Ordinary into the Extraordinary in my daily internet life.

Thanks. That's what we do (apparently).

esophagus

11-22-2007, 07:21 PM

cam-

11-22-2007, 07:47 PM

Happy thanksgiving Amerikaners.

kahunablair

11-22-2007, 11:30 PM

This is too funny not to mention. Someone wrote a book about leadership and passion called The Fred Factor (http://www.amazon.com/dp/184413816X?tag=thweinco-20&camp=211493&creative=379997&linkCode=op1&creativeASIN=184413816X&adid=16WAN3TDHKKXQNDZPXXE&).

I see your Fred Factor, and raise you a Blair Handbook...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41FYKTRKRQL._AA240_.jpg

and a Blair Handbook...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515Y634PCWL._AA240_.jpg

Oh and just in case I always have an Ace in my deck,
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BV2921T0L._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

six-gun

11-22-2007, 11:30 PM

Happy thanksgiving Amerikaners.

thank you Canadian

humphrey-lee

11-23-2007, 12:59 AM

Right now I'm thankful for vodka, because it's the only thing that has gone right today.

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 01:05 AM

Right now I'm thankful for vodka, because it's the only thing that has gone right today.

Vodka is normally one of the things that NEVER goes right for me.
I can drink a case of beer, 2 pitchers of Sangria, so on and so on, but you give me a SIP of vodka, and I'm gone. That is not exaggeration, I cannot handle vodka at all!

humphrey-lee

11-23-2007, 01:06 AM

Vodka is normally one of the things that NEVER goes right for me.
I can drink a case of beer, 2 pitchers of Sangria, so on and so on, but you give me a SIP of vodka, and I'm gone. That is not exaggeration, I cannot handle vodka at all!

I just poured four ounces into a glass to make a White Russian. I plan on duplicating this process at least three more times. It's been a day...

paper

11-23-2007, 01:15 AM

six-gun

11-23-2007, 01:50 AM

paper

11-23-2007, 01:56 AM

Not a college party. I mean it was while I was in college, but it was just a small gathering of friends from high school. It's the drunkest I've ever been. When I get intoxicated I get...prolific. There are napkins out there with some really bizarre stories on them. Five minutes before this picture was taken I was having an argument about the homeowner's basement shower being a broken teleportation device. The red cup is actually filled with water. They're trying to sober me up. Instead, I'm blowing air into the water and I'm yelling, "I am the god Poseidon!" No lie.

Cautionary tale indeed, kids. I like to keep the picture around to remind me to not overdo it.

itsbecca

11-23-2007, 02:00 AM

Paper. I am very interested in this sweater vest you are wearing. I see a star? Is it Christmas themed? What is going on on there? I must know.

paper

11-23-2007, 02:01 AM

It was an ugly Christmas sweater party from last year. I'll be wearing it again this year.

humphrey-lee

11-23-2007, 02:05 AM

Paper + vodka =

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/polcapn/n10501627_31085358_3705.jpg

In fairness, this was after I had to drink the "community chest" following a game of Kings. So there was some rum and wine in there too.

I had to drink a concoction once that was made up of 6 ounces of Delirium beer, some Yuengling and Sam Adams I think as well. Thank god Delirium's deliciousness covered it all up.

itsbecca

11-23-2007, 02:06 AM

It was an ugly Christmas sweater party from last year. I'll be wearing it again this year.

Intriguing.

paper

11-23-2007, 02:06 AM

RE: Humphrey

Every third post from you I have to wonder, "How is he still alive?"

RE: Becca

Is it? We all went out to K-Mart and found the ugliest sweaters we could find.

humphrey-lee

11-23-2007, 02:17 AM

RE: Humphrey

Every third post from you I have to wonder, "How is he still alive?"

Every third day I wake up I often wonder the same thing myself, and every third day I kind of wish I wasn't. And that's how things seem to roll. Take the bad with the bad y'know?

paper

11-23-2007, 02:19 AM

Every third day I wake up I often wonder the same thing myself, and every third day I kind of wish I wasn't. And that's how things seem to roll. Take the bad with the bad y'know?

***nods***

humphrey-lee

11-23-2007, 02:22 AM

***nods***

**** it, can't wallow forever. Though I am going to pummel my body with alcohol tonight and tomorrow before I get back to crazy old goofy bastard Humphrey who despite having several injuries at any given time likes to torture himself with extended fits of weight lifting and parkour to even out with the booze. Ah, the booze...

fred

11-23-2007, 02:36 AM

I have a habit of getting EXCEPTIONALLY drunk in cities that I'm not all that familiar with when I'm sober. It happens everytime I leave the area. It always turns into this great survivalist adventure game.

Where is our hotel? Have you seen my pants? Where is the MOTHER****ING Wendy's? It was just here before we went into the bar.

paper

11-23-2007, 02:40 AM

Haha, I read the first sentence of that and was preparing to type, "Where is the Wnedy's!!!!????" Hahaha.

fred

11-23-2007, 02:53 AM

Haha, I read the first sentence of that and was preparing to type, "Where is the Wnedy's!!!!????" Hahaha.

That's probably the most tame story of the bunch. Have I ever told you about our trip to AC? Holy shit! It'll take me a bit to write it up. I'll do it in a little while.

fred

11-23-2007, 03:27 AM

So the wife and I went to Atlantic City for the weekend. On Saturday night, we walked to the bar on the beach behind Caesars (can't remember the name). They had a band that seemed to only do covers of songs from the '90s like Hey Jealousy. This is the prime ingredient in the beginning of a night that is not to be forgotten though large parts of it will be.

They closed the beach bar around midnight if I remember correctly. By that point, I had about 10 Coronas in me. We promptly found a rickshaw to take us on a ride to another bar. After a few minutes, we wound up at this REALLY bizarre go-go bar that was about 8 seedy blocks from our hotel.

The go-go bar had these bizarre nudity standards; I blame the people of New Jersey. In any event, after a half dozen more Coronas or so, I can remember throwing quarters at a stripper who was dancing in the center of the bar on a platform. I WAS NOT the only one, so don't look at me that way.

I can recall switching to Jager at that point. After this, I remember doing body shots off of a shot girl. I vaguely remember the other person with me doing the same thing though she swears to this day that I imagined it.

Then, it all goes black for a while. My memory begins to fade back in briefly a few (who knows how many) hours later. The wife and I managed to find an all night McDonalds so that I could get a drink. I'm presently in the midst of kicking a nasty fountain soda addiction. Then, I remember that she fell into a prickly bush and fell asleep. I have no recollection of the events that happened between then (approximately 4:30) and when I woke up (approximately 10:30).

Now, I mentioned that I woke up at 10:30. That kind of sucked because we had to check out at 11. This really was only the half of it though.

I woke up naked as the day I was born. That's not really a huge deal right? I'm staying in a hotel. I'm coming off of a blackout bender. The first thought that goes through my mind is "I HOPE MY CLOTHES ARE IN THE ROOM." I immediately had visions of my naked, drunken ass stumbling through the lobby. It's certainly a viable outcome when you consider the facts.

In any case, a thorough search of the bathroom turned up my underwear. They were in the toilet. Yep, in the toilet. My undershirt and socks were on the balcony. Yep, the balcony. We were on the 9th floor (if you're wondering). My outer shirt was in the television cabinet. Yep, the tv cabinet. My pants were nowhere to be found.

Has that ever happened to you? Have you ever, as a grown man or woman, lost track of your pants and had NO IDEA in the world where you left them or if you'd be arrested just for showing your face in the lobby again? It's a funny story now, but at the time it's decidely not a nice feeling.

More careful searching revealed my pants wrapped up in the comforter under the bed. I was excited; as anyone would be. I was excited until I realized that I had vomited. I had eaten potato skins the day before. Ah, Applebees. Anyway, I hadn't vomited on my pants; I had vomited in my pants. I had bought the pants approximately 20 hours earlier.

So after some quick cleanup, we checked out late and drove home. We got stuck in a 9 hour traffic jam. You've gotta love the Jersey highway systems.

The moral of the story is this: If you've ever been to AC and seen a grown pantless man trying to wake up his wife in a bush then it wasn't me because I know where my pants were after all.

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 03:28 AM

That's probably the most tame story of the bunch. Have I ever told you about our trip to AC? Holy shit! It'll take me a bit to write it up. I'll do it in a little while.

I've been waiting to hear that story since I brought up AC in one of the other threads.

fred

11-23-2007, 03:29 AM

I've been waiting to hear that story since I brought up AC in one of the other threads.

look up. :)

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 03:30 AM

look up. :)

.... DAMN YOU!

fred

11-23-2007, 03:34 AM

.... DAMN YOU!

well I did say it'd take a few minutes to write up. ;)

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 03:39 AM

Wow....
That's an interesting story.
I'd love to write a book called "Ode to AC". It would be a collection of all the drunk/horror stories I've had/heard of that mythical place by the sea.

I'm not a big drinker, so sadly I'm the guy that is the straight man to pretty much every story I have. The most recent one involved me keeping a friend from getting beaten up and arrested by cops on the Boardwalk at 3am. Want to know why? He was screaming "PIG" and "I SMELL BACON" at every cop he saw. This turned into me having to literally drag him through the Tropicana by the back of his shirt.

Oh and as a side note, the beach bar you visited behind Caesar's? Its called "The Beach Bar". Inventive, aren't we?

fred

11-23-2007, 03:40 AM

Oh and as a side note, the beach bar you visited behind Caesar's? Its called "The Beach Bar". Inventive, aren't we?

That sounds right. It's so complex, no wonder I forgot it.

darron

11-23-2007, 03:44 AM

Cautionary tale indeed, kids. I like to keep the picture around to remind me to not overdo it.

WE need to PARTY, bro.

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 03:46 AM

The Beach Bar is actually one of the reasons I have sworn off ANYTHING located near the Boardwalk in AC.
Give me my Borgata!
http://www.g-sa.com/images/Borgata.jpg

fred

11-23-2007, 03:52 AM

We went briefly to the Borgatta. I didn't like it and it's distance from everything else didn't help.

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 03:55 AM

... it's distance from everything else didn't help.

What you see as a problem, I see as a plus. :D
Like I said earlier, I've never been a drinker. When I go to AC, I do it to gamble, Borgata's just the cleanest, nicest place to play down there.

esophagus

11-23-2007, 04:25 AM

RE: Humphrey

Every third post from you I have to wonder, "How is he still alive?"
I really don't want to pull out my stories, but it's safe to say I'm surprised I'm alive. College parties, and even high school parties on occasion, are pretty out of hand. I amaze myself, some nights.

Edit: That makes me sound like an alcoholic. If and when I drink, I'm fairly tasteful about it, and not out of hand drunk. But that ability has, on occasion, gotten away from me.

Edit of my edit: I would love to tell you about the time, not so long ago, I got blitzed and past out in a friends room. Debby Does Dallas was on TV, and my friend decided it was more fun that the other people he was entertaining. I wrote a page long review of it in the "General Movie Thread". Luckily, my co-ordination was off, and I must have hit preview instead of submit. I can guarantee this was a good thing.

itsbecca

11-23-2007, 06:11 PM

RE: Becca

Is it? We all went out to K-Mart and found the ugliest sweaters we could find.

You just remind me very much of my best friend, except more reserved. I miss him. And strip poker played with famous women of history cards. Marie Curie is wild!

Sigh.

six-gun

11-23-2007, 08:30 PM

I don't drink, I do like parties though.

I usually just go and hang out with the other sober people and make sure my drunk friends don't get in a car to drive

cam-

11-23-2007, 08:33 PM

That's a noble calling Six, and particularily thankless, but trust that, the next day, all who didn't drive appreciate people like you.

All who did drive are wracked with guilt, regardless of what happened. Or at least they should be.

six-gun

11-23-2007, 08:37 PM

esophagus

11-23-2007, 10:18 PM

I don't drink, I do like parties though.

I usually just go and hang out with the other sober people and make sure my drunk friends don't get in a car to driveI've had my share of those nights. Those nights are the reason I drink. It's a great thing, but sometimes I just like having the ability to say "No, sorry, I can't take care of you tonight"

Edit: Not that I let people drunk drive or anything when I do drink. I'm always up for calling a cab, or finding places for people to crash.

paper

11-23-2007, 10:33 PM

Just got back from Philadelphia's Academy of Natural Sciences. I had to find and photograph a number of dinosaur skeletons for a project. Still sorting through the 500+ photos I took. Later on I'll post some of the more interesting ones.

Here's me and a bone from a Chasmosaurus (sort of like a triceratops).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/2058347384_2c497ac46d.jpg

six-gun

11-23-2007, 11:01 PM

That's really neat Paper

paper

11-24-2007, 01:57 AM

Deinonychus
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/2058589754_8e4701030e.jpg

T-Rex skull
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2211/2058589748_076f9736c2_o.jpg

Piloplatecarpus
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2158/2057934195_98df6b5399.jpg

fred

11-24-2007, 01:59 AM

Deinonychus
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/2058589754_8e4701030e.jpg

At first I thought this was a slightly blurry picture of two dinosaur skeletons getting it on.

What it actually is ..... is cool too.

paper

11-24-2007, 02:06 AM

Nah, I totally see it.

That Tenontosaurus is feeling the love. And being tickled by this gentle, gentle claw.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2145/2058739470_d16201ce37.jpg

paper

11-24-2007, 02:08 AM

The lighting in that museum is god awful. And everything I needed to photograph was in the shadow of either another skeleton or a pillar.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 02:15 AM

The lighting in that museum is god awful. And everything I needed to photograph was in the shadow of either another skeleton or a pillar.

I know what you mean. I'm shocked you were able to get photo's as good as them. Very nice, sir, very nice.

paper

11-24-2007, 02:26 AM

Thanks, man.

I cheated. I really did. The latest update of iPhoto has a shadow removal slider. Play with that, counteract the graininess with some noise reduction, and you're good to go.

I went on a whole photography spree today. Lots of bicycle photos.

Still uploading them, but a bunch are already up on my Flickr page (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7835861@N06/).

six-gun

11-24-2007, 02:32 AM

What class was that for?

paper

11-24-2007, 02:52 AM

What class was that for?

"Dinosaurs and their World"

It's actually really, really hard. It's like an anatomy class, but at least in regular anatomy you could potentially count your own fingers to answer question 72. There are so many different clades of dinosaur, it's difficult to keep track of who has how many fingers, toes, sacral vertebrae, transverse processes....Lots of memorization. The power point presentation on sauropods I had to study for my exam this past week was 130 slides. And sauropods made up about 20% of the test.

Sorry. Venting.

My professor is really cool. Ken Lacovara. He discovered Paralititan stromi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralititan), probably one of the largest terrestrial animals ever to walk the earth. Recently he helped name a new (http://www.yellowriversc.com/article.cfm/id/224537) dinosaur discovered in China.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 03:12 AM

Oh dinasour anatomy, I see, sounds pretty interesting

paper

11-24-2007, 03:14 AM

It's my science requirement. I really don't have the left brain functionality for physics.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 03:21 AM

It's my science requirement. I really don't have the left brain functionality for physics.

ok, I see, I'm a biology guy myself

paper

11-24-2007, 03:25 AM

What branch of biology? Is that the route you're going for college?

six-gun

11-24-2007, 03:49 AM

What branch of biology? Is that the route you're going for college?

Yeah, I like the applied fields probably pre-med or a biology/chemistry split major but I also have an interest in zoology, because despite not believing in it, I find evolution incredibly fascinating

paper

11-24-2007, 03:52 AM

Do you believe in dinosaurs?

six-gun

11-24-2007, 03:56 AM

Do you believe in dinosaurs?

yeah, most creationists do

paper

11-24-2007, 04:02 AM

Is it the monkey thing?

(I just want to understand. Not interested in changing your mind.)

six-gun

11-24-2007, 04:12 AM

Is it the monkey thing?

(I just want to understand. Not interested in changing your mind.)

It's wherever it butts heads with Genesis (also, not trying to get political or anything) anything else I'm open minded about

(Dinosaurs are in the bible)

paper

11-24-2007, 04:15 AM

What about the time periods? Are the first seven days "days" or representative of longer periods?

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:28 AM

I went on a whole photography spree today. Lots of bicycle photos.

Still uploading them, but a bunch are already up on my Flickr page (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7835861@N06/).

Nice stuff.
Those Dinosaur Dogs look so lifelike!

What about the time periods? Are the first seven days "days" or representative of longer periods?

And a civil conversation about creationism? WOW. I'm impressed!
I, myself, an "Old Earther", the longer period of time type.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 04:29 AM

What about the time periods? Are the first seven days "days" or representative of longer periods?

That's the rub, a lot of theologians think that the specificity of Genesis' language means that it was seven human days, however that's just theory.

I'm willing to seriously consider any theory of creation that involves God

six-gun

11-24-2007, 04:32 AM

And a civil conversation about creationism? WOW. I'm impressed!
I, myself, an "Old Earther", the longer period of time type.

I'm familiar with some creationists who say that earth is only 10,000 years old, I don't discount them, but I think their view seems almost a limitation of God's sovereignty (who's to say He couldn't have orchestrated evolution in that seven days?)

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:35 AM

I know a lot of people that stand on both sides, and I avoid those discussions more then anything else. It amazes me how much people hang their entire belief system on just a few verses, that can be interpreted two different ways.
It's not like picking one over the other causes everything in Judaism or Christianity to fall apart.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:39 AM

paper

11-24-2007, 04:40 AM

So, is evolution an inherently godless theory given these interpretations of scripture? The major argument I've heard against evolution in terms of religion is the idea that humans have always been human. That claiming humans share a common ancestor with apes is cheapening the beauty of God's design.

EDIT: I'm willing to hear anybody's suggestions on topics like this, because, as much as we think we know, it's like trying to pick up a whole beach with your bare hands.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 04:42 AM

paper

11-24-2007, 04:43 AM

On a different tangent,
I just pulled another marathon read of a series.
I started a week ago, but I am now completely caught up to current issues with Invincible. That really is one damn fine series!

So within the past few months, I've read all of Y, all of Invincible, and now I'm starting to read DMZ. I seriously think I'm spoiling myself way to much.

I wasn't even looking forward to the NEW comics that came out this week, because I couldn't wait to crack open the rest of the Invincible books.

I really need to get back into Invincible. Stopped after the first HC collection.

DMZ hasn't snared me yet. I keep trying to finish the first trade and end up giving up. I blame my course load for this obnoxious ADD.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:44 AM

Well you get a lot of people now a days, that say that the original story of 7 days is merely an allegory for what God did. God really used evolution to bring up Adam, and so on and so on.
So there is even arguments between "Old Earthers" about how things worked out.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:48 AM

I really need to get back into Invincible. Stopped after the first HC collection.

DMZ hasn't snared me yet. I keep trying to finish the first trade and end up giving up. I blame my course load for this obnoxious ADD.

I bought the entire Invincible trade collection off a guy in my shop for 50 bucks. So I really lucked out there. I kept meaning to pick it up, I knew the whole Twist, but I never got around to picking it up.

DMZ, on the other hand, didn't really sound like a concept I'd enjoy. I guess it was just the way it was explained to me, because I over heard a group of people talking about it, and the way they described it made me pick up the first trade.
I'm up to the 3rd now.

luthor

11-24-2007, 04:49 AM

Not to take away from the ongoing conversation...

But this is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen or read (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/11/21/hairball.case/index.html?iref=mpstoryview). Thank You CNN and New England Journal of Medicine.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:50 AM

I don't hang my beliefs on it, I just find it important :)
Haha,
I just wanted to clarify, I didn't mean to discount it. It's a doozy of a point, but I've met people who have told me, " I get pretty much everything in the Bible, oddly enough I can see everything being true, EXCEPT I don't see how you can rationalize evolution not being true."

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:52 AM

mastap

11-24-2007, 04:52 AM

paper

11-24-2007, 04:53 AM

labor_days

11-24-2007, 04:54 AM

Re: Evolution

What about those that seem to want it both ways?

A literal translation of scripture (i.e. Man = God's image) and those that want to say well seven days is a metaphor concerning any period of time God deemed necessary.

I am not at all religious. But I find the idea of spontaneous being...illogical.

paper

11-24-2007, 04:58 AM

Well, I don't think anyone would claim all religious truths to be logical. It's impossible truth beyond human comprehension. That's what faith is all about.

labor_days

11-24-2007, 05:03 AM

Well, I don't think anyone would claim all religious truths to be logical. It's impossible truth beyond human comprehension. That's what faith is all about.

Well, yes. That's my real argument against reconciling religion and science.

I don't think science undermines faith and I don't think faith needs explanation.

But that being said; some creationist and ID thinkers want to take some parts of Scripture literally and want to stretch the meaning of others.

The convenience in using religion and magic to explain the natural world seems more than a little odd to me, personally. I just don't understand where they are coming from at all.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 05:06 AM

Well, I don't think anyone would claim all religious truths to be logical. It's impossible truth beyond human comprehension. That's what faith is all about.

amen ;) I'm glad we had this short, civil discourse on a mature subject

labor_days

11-24-2007, 05:13 AM

six-gun

11-24-2007, 05:14 AM

But that being said; some creationist and ID thinkers want to take some parts of Scripture literally and want to stretch the meaning of others.

There is doctrinal basis for ruling between literal and metaphorical teachings, however Creation is in a gray area

esophagus

11-24-2007, 05:17 AM

Haha,
I just wanted to clarify, I didn't mean to discount it. It's a doozy of a point, but I've met people who have told me, " I get pretty much everything in the Bible, oddly enough I can see everything being true, EXCEPT I don't see how you can rationalize evolution not being true."
I have an extremely religious cousin who doesn't believe in dinosaurs, or evolution. I'm not religious, or atheist. You could say I'm still finding out where I fit in. For exactly that reason, I find discussions on stuff like this really interesting.

I think Six brought up a great point that a lot of religious people overlook. Simple, but passed over. Who's to say god didn't orchestrate evolution within those seven days?

Now, I don't mean to offend anyone, I know this is touchy ground, but here's my theory. I think it's a fairly safe bet to say that the general belief is that humans are all working towards some greater good, our success or failure is subjective. If we're working towards a greater god, with some higher power to back us up, then obviously that higher power doesn't create something from nothing, he works at it, no matter how mystical the way. So in the same way a mountain would be built up from a pile of stone, I think it's an alright guess that we could have been built up from a lower species on the alleged evolutionary chain. There's still plot holes in that, I'm sure, but I think there's plot holes in any theory on where we came from at this point.

It's not necassarily the way I believe it happened, but it is something that makes more sense to me than shunning the matter all together. But, it seems this topic has been passed over. I'll finish up.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 05:17 AM

I hope what I said doesn't offend anyone.

Absolutely not, you raised valid and thought provoking points

esophagus

11-24-2007, 05:19 AM

I hope what I said doesn't offend anyone. It's just hard for me to understand being nonreligious.

Doesn't it seem odd that men of God would need to justify their faith to science?

Don't understand why they would do that. Isn't God beyond explanation?
In my opinion, it's just done out of love. The same way you get homesick being to far from parent's, it's a struggle to be closer, or understand, your god. But that's just my perspective. I always find it best to rationalize matters like this, rather than shrug them off.

fred

11-24-2007, 05:36 AM

(Dinosaurs are in the bible)

Just out of curiousity, where are the dinosaurs in the bible? I've read most of it and I think I skipped the dinosaur parts.

labor_days

11-24-2007, 06:23 AM

esophagus

11-24-2007, 06:46 AM

Without getting too deeply into things- I just see science and faith as very different things. Not necessarily opposed to one another.

Faith doesn't need any explanation or rationalization at all. Science is sorta built on the opposite of that.Labor, do you listen to the Philosophy Bites podcast? They did an episode on Atheism once, and it went into that a bit. Overall, I disliked the episode because the guest speaker, quite apparently, felt that anyone with any sort of faith was a moron, but he did have some interesting points*.

*Editors Note: Not points on why people with faith were morons, I meant points on why faith and science can peacefully coexist, as long as they maintain their seperate universes.

labor_days

11-24-2007, 07:03 AM

Nope. Don't listen to the podcast, Eso. Will seek it out though!

When I say I am an atheist, I don't mean to change anyone's mind about their faith. I sorta hate that reverse logic among atheist that forces their belief on others in the same manner as the religious types atheists rail against do. Bleh.

Not interested in that. Life is hard enough without taking someone to task for a belief in which they derive meaning and understanding. Easter Bunny, Aliens, Buddha, Vishnu or whatever.

Yes, there are things I just don't understand about the deeply religious. So long as you're not murdering me, blowing me up or asking I forgo science in favor of magic- I'm cool with your religion/faith.

The "not murdering me" part is high up there. Not a big fan of being murdered.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 04:00 PM

Just out of curiousity, where are the dinosaurs in the bible? I've read most of it and I think I skipped the dinosaur parts.

Well, the term Dinosaur wasn't coined until the 1800s and the KJ Version of the Bible was translated in 1611 so that term isn't there, however Job 40: 15-24 mentions behemoth (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2040:%2015-24;&version=9;) whose description matches that of a dinosaur.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 04:08 PM

The "not murdering me" part is high up there. Not a big fan of being murdered.

Oh... well, we've toned things down a bit ;)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/Sn4ke22/spanishinq0go.jpg

cam-

11-24-2007, 04:29 PM

The "not murdering me" part is high up there. Not a big fan of being murdered.

Well you never KNOW until you try.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 04:45 PM

Wow. I go away for a night, and I come back to a STILL civil conversation. Holy Crap!

Without getting too deeply into things- I just see science and faith as very different things. Not necessarily opposed to one another.
Faith doesn't need any explanation or rationalization at all. Science is sorta built on the opposite of that.
I think that's kind of the problem with the debates between the two. Assuming that Science is in a disagreement with Faith, and vice versa, isn't exactly a good way of looking at it.
If you honestly think about it, if God set up the universe to run a certain way, to be govern by certain laws, doesn't that mean that Science itself is a part of faith?
Without getting into it to much, I spent many years as an Atheist, then went down a weird path where I drank some Kool-Aid and became a "Christian". So I have a hard as heck time, trying to be rabid on either side, because I used to be on the other side of the aisle.
Faith doesn't really mean you believe in something even though everything else is telling you it's wrong. Faith is believing in something even though you don't have all the answers, yet everything else you've seen and experienced is in accordance with your basic belief system.

esophagus

11-24-2007, 07:08 PM

Wow. I go away for a night, and I come back to a STILL civil conversation. Holy Crap!

I think that's kind of the problem with the debates between the two. Assuming that Science is in a disagreement with Faith, and vice versa, isn't exactly a good way of looking at it.
If you honestly think about it, if God set up the universe to run a certain way, to be govern by certain laws, doesn't that mean that Science itself is a part of faith?
Without getting into it to much, I spent many years as an Atheist, then went down a weird path where I drank some Kool-Aid and became a "Christian". So I have a hard as heck time, trying to be rabid on either side, because I used to be on the other side of the aisle.
Faith doesn't really mean you believe in something even though everything else is telling you it's wrong. Faith is believing in something even though you don't have all the answers, yet everything else you've seen and experienced is in accordance with your basic belief system.I don't think what Labor is saying (or atl east not what I'm saying) is that Science and Faith can't exist together. Just that one can't solve the other. If god is a higher power, and a power put there by our faith, then there's obviously a very fantastical element in there. An element that probably won't be solved with the Periodic Table of the Elements.

I do have faith, whether that faith is in god, or a lack of one, but either way, I don't think that any earthly knowledge is going to give me the answers I'm looking for. That's why we have religion. It makes the unsolvable problems in life seem like they're already been solved.

labor_days

11-24-2007, 07:15 PM

I don't think what Labor is saying (or atl east not what I'm saying) is that Science and Faith can't exist together. Just that one can't solve the other. If god is a higher power, and a power put there by our faith, then there's obviously a very fantastical element in there. An element that probably won't be solved with the Periodic Table of the Elements.

In so many words, Eso gets what I was saying.

Trying to be nondenominational and sensitive to others belief, I may have been too vague. But yes, that is the long and short of it.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 07:15 PM

I really didn't mean to make it sound like I was disagreeing with Labor, I was more running along side his idea. Not really agreeing or arguing against it.

esophagus

11-24-2007, 07:20 PM

I really didn't mean to make it sound like I was disagreeing with Labor, I was more running along side his idea. Not really agreeing or arguing against it.Didn't mean to sound like I'm argiung either. I'm just excited to have a debate like this going on, that still works. I was considering starting up a freebie forum and inviting a few of you, so we could get in the intelligent discussion we ache for, but in the last few days it seems we're progressing towards being able to have that here.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 07:21 PM

Didn't mean to sound like I'm argiung either. I'm just excited to have a debate like this going on, that still works. I was considering starting up a freebie forum and inviting a few of you, so we could get in the intelligent discussion we ache for, but in the last few days it seems we're progressing towards being able to have that here.

Intelligent debate?....

You sir, are a poopy head!

Better?

labor_days

11-24-2007, 07:21 PM

It's all good Kahuna. I don't feel you misconstrued my thoughts.

Hey, did you guys watch the Nova special (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/) on ID vs. Evolution in schools?

It's good and you can watch online...

esophagus

11-24-2007, 07:24 PM

No, but I just wrote an assignment on a similar topic fro my Religious Studies class, I'll have to watch this after supper.

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 07:25 PM

I have it bookmarked at home, waiting for a chance to watch it though.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 07:25 PM

Intelligent debate?....

You sir, are a poopy head!

Better?

there, that's what we've been missing

kahunablair

11-24-2007, 07:27 PM

there, that's what we've been missing

I had to get it out of our systems. I was afraid we'd all burst if we don't say something offensive and/or mean spirited. ;)

paper

11-24-2007, 07:42 PM

The Nova special is really good.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 11:23 PM

Tennessee is going to the SEC Championship Game!

cam-

11-24-2007, 11:25 PM

Nice, Go Vols.

I've worked the Tennesee St. Fair twice now, both times during the Gators game in Knoxville.

Anyways, now I have a Volunteers hat.

six-gun

11-24-2007, 11:55 PM

Nice, Go Vols.

I've worked the Tennesee St. Fair twice now, both times during the Gators game in Knoxville.

was that Spurier era Florida?

esophagus

11-25-2007, 02:05 AM

I found a batman costume to wear for my grad photos. This is going to be epic.

humphrey-lee

11-25-2007, 07:18 AM

I got so unbelievably drunk last night, wow, shitshow of epic proportions. Just, Jesus...

six-gun

11-25-2007, 01:40 PM

I got so unbelievably drunk last night, wow, shitshow of epic proportions. Just, Jesus...

Awesome :rolleyes:

;)

fred

11-25-2007, 04:16 PM

How about Kansas finally losing? I was pulling for them. It was a nice story. They're a program in a lesser conference with nearly no chance.

six-gun

11-25-2007, 05:34 PM

How about Kansas finally losing? I was pulling for them. It was a nice story. They're a program in a lesser conference with nearly no chance.

All I have to say is that if Ohio State goes to the Championship I'm going to be pissed

luthor

11-25-2007, 06:03 PM

fred

11-25-2007, 07:24 PM

All I have to say is that if Ohio State goes to the Championship I'm going to be pissed

it looks like it might go that way. They're not playing again until bowl season. They don't have a chance to blow it.

fred

11-25-2007, 07:25 PM

Where's the love for Mizzou?

A couple of years ago, a buddy and I snuck into the stadium in Columbia. We ended up in places we very obviously shouldn't have been and made our way out onto the field. It was a really cool experience.

I have nothing against Missouri. They're a good story too. They haven't even won a conference championship in 38 years.

kwok_talk

11-25-2007, 11:23 PM

Where's the love for Mizzou?

A couple of years ago, a buddy and I snuck into the stadium in Columbia. We ended up in places we very obviously shouldn't have been and made our way out onto the field. It was a really cool experience.
Mizzou won? Sweet! (shows how much I pay attn to college sports)

fred

11-25-2007, 11:47 PM

Mizzou won? Sweet! (shows how much I pay attn to college sports)

it was 36-28

itsbecca

11-26-2007, 02:54 AM

I've decided I want my wedding to be exactly like the zune commercial with the pink bunnies (http://zuneinsider.com/archive/2007/11/01/you-make-it-you-new-zune-ad-campaign-launches-tonight.aspx).

labor_days

11-26-2007, 03:01 AM

The girl in that Zune commercial is hotter than the sun. Holy shit. Way to know your market. I'm sold...wait, what am I buying?

luthor

11-26-2007, 03:07 AM

I've decided I want my wedding to be exactly like the zune commercial with the pink bunnies (http://zuneinsider.com/archive/2007/11/01/you-make-it-you-new-zune-ad-campaign-launches-tonight.aspx).

The girl in that Zune commercial is hotter than the sun. Holy shit. Way to know your market. I'm sold...wait, what am I buying?
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1403/ackbarnq4.jpg

paper

11-26-2007, 03:10 AM

Well played, Zune. If I weren't already an Apple loyalist that ad would have me seriously considering a Zune. Design like that, coupled with a girl like that...I'm a pushover.

Are the iPod Touch ads getting too minimalist? Too...inorganic? They're sexy (what with the sexy CSS track playing in the background), but they lack the human element of this Zune ad. The whimsy too.

labor_days

11-26-2007, 03:12 AM

Ah. Admiral Ackbar brings me back to reality. Listening to my iPod now.

That's more like it. Sing it again, Steven.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070403/capt.sge.lqq03.030407115442.photo01.photo.default-397x512.jpg

jgg0610

11-26-2007, 03:14 AM

Tennessee is going to the SEC Championship Game!
Great, my boss will be in a good mood tomorrow at least.

esophagus

11-26-2007, 03:19 AM

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/esophaguss/sd-1.jpg

or

http://images.forbes.com/images/2001/12/13/steve_jobs.gif

Come on fellas, this is easy. Steve's a babe.

itsbecca

11-26-2007, 03:24 AM

labor_days

11-26-2007, 03:42 AM

I just want to pay people to dance around in pink bunny costumes is all. And we've been really struggling over what to do for the actual ceremony since we're both atheist... so I'm thinking choreographed dance number?

I will guest blog on your blog during your wedding, Becca.

But I'm not going to lie. I'm going to get very political and attack Giuliani's poor fashion sense (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/154212/rudy_giuliani_in_drag/). I can't vote a man into office who dresses like Maude.

fred

11-26-2007, 03:54 AM

I will guest blog on your blog during your wedding, Becca.

But I'm not going to lie. I'm going to get very political and attack Giuliani's poor fashion sense (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/154212/rudy_giuliani_in_drag/). I can't vote a man into office who dresses like Maude.

Wow! That's great! Can I vote for him twice? Time to go register with the BOE as dead people. :rolleyes:

itsbecca

11-26-2007, 03:56 AM

Wow! That's great! Can I vote for him twice? Time to go register with the BOE as dead people. :rolleyes:

This is even creepier than that White House special with Bush's scotties.

kwok_talk

11-26-2007, 03:59 AM

I just want to pay people to dance around in pink bunny costumes is all. And we've been really struggling over what to do for the actual ceremony since we're both atheist... so I'm thinking choreographed dance number?

Do whatever the heck you want to do for your ceremony (except for animal sacrifices.) It's you and your (future) hubby's day and screw tradition.*

* All of this may be overturned by parents.

fred

11-26-2007, 04:01 AM

itsbecca

11-26-2007, 12:43 PM

Do whatever the heck you want to do for your ceremony (except for animal sacrifices.) It's you and your (future) hubby's day and screw tradition.*

* All of this may be overturned by parents.

That's the thought. And the parents say goes straight out the window with all the money that they aren't giving to us for it. They can sit there and enjoy the show darnit.

six-gun

11-26-2007, 02:15 PM

My best man was a woman. The parents loooovvved that.

Really?

(10)

fred

11-26-2007, 03:22 PM

Really?

(10)

yeah. I've always gotten along a lot better with women than men. My best friend since like 7th grade was my best 'man'.

paper

11-26-2007, 03:29 PM

That's cool. Screw tradition, man. Sacred cows + ketchup + slip'n'slide = excellence.

My idea for a wedding is kind of odd. I want to gather everybody together in a centralized location, put them on a bus, and drive them to the secret wedding venue. The roof of my high school english teacher's house or, if he's dead by then, a Wendy's. It's like a flash wedding.

fred

11-26-2007, 03:49 PM

That's cool. Screw tradition, man. Sacred cows + ketchup + slip'n'slide = excellence.

I say thee word.

We had one funny incident when we wanted to keep a tradition. We wanted to not offend the guests. It was going pretty well through cocktail hour. Then we were being announced to Ben Folds' Rockin' The Suburbs. The entire wedding party was announced and we were last. Just after announcing my nearly 80 year old grandparents, we realized that the dj wasn't using the radio version of the song. We realized as the speakers blared "it makes me wanna SCREAM ****KKKKKKKKKKKK".

That wasn't even a bit awkward. Or it really was.

One of the two. I can't remember.

six-gun

11-26-2007, 04:11 PM

yeah. I've always gotten along a lot better with women than men. My best friend since like 7th grade was my best 'man'.

Friends with benefits? ;)

fred

11-26-2007, 04:19 PM

Friends with benefits? ;)

no. you can't really have a long lasting friendship that doesn't get weird that way.

kwok_talk

11-26-2007, 04:23 PM

I say thee word.

We had one funny incident when we wanted to keep a tradition. We wanted to not offend the guests. It was going pretty well through cocktail hour. Then we were being announced to Ben Folds' Rockin' The Suburbs. The entire wedding party was announced and we were last. Just after announcing my nearly 80 year old grandparents, we realized that the dj wasn't using the radio version of the song. We realized as the speakers blared "it makes me wanna SCREAM ****KKKKKKKKKKKK".

That wasn't even a bit awkward. Or it really was.

One of the two. I can't remember.

That is really awesome! Also props to the best man (girl). A good friend of mine kept lobbying for the position too, but we ended up not having a bridal party. We made her an usher, which is kind of a comprimise.

six-gun

11-26-2007, 04:52 PM

no. you can't really have a long lasting friendship that doesn't get weird that way.

I was just giving you a hard time.

fred

11-26-2007, 04:57 PM

I was just giving you a hard time.

I figured so but took the opportunity to drop some knowledge anyhow.

kahunablair

11-26-2007, 05:47 PM

I figured so but took the opportunity to drop some knowledge anyhow.

I like to think of each of Fred's posts as an episode of Small Wonder.
Sure they may seem funny and goofy, but there is always that underlying bit of knowledge or message. We can all learn a lot from Senor Fred, it's about time people realize that!

kahunablair

11-26-2007, 05:50 PM

Want to hear something weird? The owner of the company I work for (a multi-billion dollar company mind you) just sent out an email to every single employee in Manangement. Guess what the email was about?
Business strategies?
A possible sale of the Company?
Holiday well-wishes?

Nope.
He was telling us we should all vote for a certain contestant on Dancing with the Stars on the show tonight.

fred

11-26-2007, 05:56 PM

I like to think of each of Fred's posts as an episode of Small Wonder.

You know I do too. I may be a goofy bastard, but sometimes I'm a goofy bastard with a point and I'm just trying to help.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/FREDPSA.gif

fred

11-26-2007, 05:58 PM

Nope.
He was telling us we should all vote for a certain contestant on Dancing with the Stars on the show tonight.

I think that gives you license to spend the rest of the afternoon watching internet pornography. I'm just saying - apparently he doesn't think work is an important thing to do at ... what's that place called? .... oh right, work.

kahunablair

11-26-2007, 06:01 PM

I think that gives you license to spend the rest of the afternoon watching internet pornography. I'm just saying - apparently he doesn't think work is an important thing to do at ... what's that place called? .... oh right, work.

I do that anyway! :D

It's a very weird thing. I mean in a weird way I get that the contestant "works" in the same company as I, but seriously?

mikegraham6

11-26-2007, 08:22 PM

esophagus

11-26-2007, 09:09 PM

I do that anyway! :D

It's a very weird thing. I mean in a weird way I get that the contestant "works" in the same company as I, but seriously?You work with the Osmonds?

labor_days

11-26-2007, 09:39 PM

I just sliced my hand open at work. Stitches are needed. I'm going home early. Jesus H. Christ....

fred

11-26-2007, 09:44 PM

hope it works out ok

labor_days

11-26-2007, 09:57 PM

Just got stitched up. 8 of 'em. No tendons were damaged. Am waiting for the Supervisor to show up and I'm outta here.

What a shit Monday.

fred

11-26-2007, 09:59 PM

I totally forgot that it was Monday. That suuuuuucccccckkkkkkkks.

kahunablair

11-26-2007, 10:54 PM

Wow, Labor!
Hopefully you aren't in to bad of shape, my man.

You work with the Osmonds?
Haha. Yes. I work for a Mormon Concert Hall here in NJ.

Seriously though, I work for Penske Automotive, which is owned by Roger Penske. He's a famous race car drive who has multiple racing teams and one of them is helmed by Helio Castroneves. He apparently has made it to the final round of Dancing with the Stars.

luthor

11-27-2007, 12:38 AM

I just heard about this and had to share...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=WezgAIBY6Ys

LINK (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=WezgAIBY6Ys)

How awesome is that?

itsbecca

11-27-2007, 12:43 AM

So our furnace (boiler? Who knows) at work is busted and I got over the whole "I'm so glad it's fall" thing reaaaaal fast. We can't even call the installers to fix it because Accounts Payable still hasn't paid them from the last time, four months ago. Tomorrow I'm bringing a pair of slippers and my big down jacket.

The best part is, I work for the HVAC leg of Sears Home Improvement. I setup up... Oh... 25 people to get heat today, all while I couldn't feel my toes. Screw this crap.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 01:20 AM

I just sliced my hand open at work. Stitches are needed. I'm going home early. Jesus H. Christ....

I thought you were a techy? ;) how does that happen?

conorkilpatrick

11-27-2007, 01:29 AM

The best part is, I work for the HVAC leg of Sears Home Improvement. I setup up... Oh... 25 people to get heat today, all while I couldn't feel my toes. Screw this crap.

You should start a trashcan fire.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 01:33 AM

Going to be honest, this day wasn't so great for me, I found out a girl I had been talking to most likely plays for the other team

I'm at a loss

itsbecca

11-27-2007, 01:34 AM

You should start a trashcan fire.

We seriously considered it and this is how I know our office has a noticeble lack of wood furnishings. Although, there are sensitive credit documents that could be used for kindling while we're waiting for our new shredder to come in...

conorkilpatrick

11-27-2007, 01:37 AM

We seriously considered it and this is how I know our office has a noticeble lack of wood furnishings. Although, there are sensitive credit documents that could be used for kindling while we're waiting for our new shredder to come in...

Big stacks of pencils!

kwok_talk

11-27-2007, 01:46 AM

Going to be honest, this day wasn't so great for me, I found out a girl I had been talking to most likely plays for the other team

I'm at a loss
Bummer. You can play Weezer's Pink Triangle from Pinkerton as your theme music now, though. Dumb joke aside, sorry to hear.

labor_days

11-27-2007, 01:48 AM

I thought you were a techy? ;) how does that happen?

I am!

I was pulling a faulty server from the rack and slid my left hand in between the shelves to get at a snagged cable. Cable came free but I pulled the equipment out with both hands hard and fast. A metal stub on the side gashed my left hand from the pinky to the wrist. Like a cut from a box cutter or hobby knife.

Didn't notice till I flipped the server over and saw blood down my arm. Then it was "All-shit-I'm-dying-call-the-fire department and NSA!" city.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 01:52 AM

Bummer. You can play Weezer's Pink Triangle from Pinkerton as your theme music now, though. Dumb joke aside, sorry to hear.

I don't know what to do, I can't ask and find out for sure, that'd be rude, but it's not like she's giving me an "I'm not interested" vibe

six-gun

11-27-2007, 01:54 AM

I am!

I was pulling a faulty server from the rack and slid my left hand in between the shelves to get at a snagged cable. Cable came free but I pulled the equipment out with both hands hard and fast. A metal stub on the side gashed my left hand from the pinky to the wrist. Like a cut from a box cutter or hobby knife.

Didn't notice till I flipped the server over and saw blood down my arm. Then it was "All-shit-I'm-dying-call-the-fire department and NSA!" city.

You're supposed to have 17 year old punks like myself working min wage to do junk like that ;)

labor_days

11-27-2007, 01:57 AM

Hey, are you eyeing my job? I kick and bite. Word of warning.

conorkilpatrick

11-27-2007, 01:59 AM

I don't know what to do, I can't ask and find out for sure, that'd be rude, but it's not like she's giving me an "I'm not interested" vibe

This happened to my roommate in college. It sucked at first but after a while she became a valuable asset. It's fun to check out chicks with a really cute chick.

Hmm... then again that was me. I think it sucked much more for Nate.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 02:08 AM

Hmm... then again that was me. I think it sucked much more for Nate.

I think I can relate to Nate. You though Conor? Not so much of a help ;)

six-gun

11-27-2007, 02:28 AM

Here's my plan. I'm helping her with history and writing her a study guide. Halfway through the guide I'm going to bury this:

Okay. I really like you, and if you’ve made it this far I guess it’s a sign or something and I honestly don’t know what to say. If you’re uninterested then just ignore this and keep reading, if not. Well, I’d like to go to a movie or something. No pressure, this way there's no embarrassment for either of us.

Advice?

labor_days

11-27-2007, 02:31 AM

I dunno, Six. Just ask her casually if she'd like to go out. No note or big to do. If she says no, just continue treating her as a friend.

The note thing can become awkward.

conorkilpatrick

11-27-2007, 02:31 AM

Hmmm. How bad for you would it be to say that to her face?

fred

11-27-2007, 02:33 AM

I would advise against that.

1. If she does like dudes, she'll probably respect you more for having the courage to ask her to her face.
2. If she's not into dudes, it won't work anyway and you could spend the rest of your life wondering if she saw the note because you didn't make an out-front play for her.
3. I think you're a good guy. I'm not busting your balls. However, if I saw this phrase "Okay. I really like you, and if you?ve made it this far I guess it?s a sign or something and I honestly don?t know what to say." hidden in a note it might freak me out a bit.

edit: I type too slowly.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 02:42 AM

Hmmm. How bad for you would it be to say that to her face?

Pretty bad if her reason's that she's gay

I don't know, I feel like I should just give up, but I really like her and I feel some sort of reciprocation but I could be totally wrong. The fact that there's only 37 people in my grade and 220 in my school means that if it's done in the open that the entire student body will know in a day

fred

11-27-2007, 02:44 AM

Pretty bad if her reason's that she's gay

I don't know, I feel like I should just give up, but I really like her and I feel some sort of reciprocation but I could be totally wrong. The fact that there's only 37 people in my grade and 220 in my school means that if it's done in the open that the entire student body will know in a day

if that's what you're worried about and she's that kind of person (one that would embarass you) then a note would be much worse.

imagine 220 photocopies of the note taped to 220 lockers

labor_days

11-27-2007, 02:49 AM

Yeah, just ask her out. With little fuss. If she says no, tell her that's cool and act like it's not a big deal. You can cry into your pillow in private.

The note thing is a bad idea.

luthor

11-27-2007, 02:52 AM

Notes never ever ever work. Be blunt. If she says no, go home and lick your wounds. Asking her to her face is going to get you a lot of respect.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 02:52 AM

if that's what you're worried about and she's that kind of person (one that would embarass you) then a note would be much worse.

imagine 220 photocopies of the note taped to 220 lockers

Not her, other people would find out. you have no idea what privacy at my school means, it's non-existent and it's not like I can say "meet me at Starbucks" I have no reason. I'll sleep on it and make my decision tomorrow.

I'm not going to get all emo and dwell on this crap. Tis just a girl

kahunablair

11-27-2007, 02:53 AM

Pretty bad if her reason's that she's gay

Out of all the "excuses" she could give you, at least that's one you know you she won't be making it up right?
Besides, how can you compete with that? It's honestly "Not you" it's her.
You've got a safety net here, man. Use it.

labor_days

11-27-2007, 02:56 AM

Tis just a girl.

The best attitude to have. Once dudes get over their apprehension in talking to girls, it's smooth sailing. This is why the ladies dig confidence and humor. It's because you are not afraid/intimidated anymore.

fred

11-27-2007, 02:59 AM

Not her, other people would find out. you have no idea what privacy at my school means, it's non-existent and it's not like I can say "meet me at Starbucks" I have no reason. I'll sleep on it and make my decision tomorrow.

I'm not going to get all emo and dwell on this crap. Tis just a girl

Oh no, many people may not know what you're going through from a privacy standpoint, but I do. I graduated in a class of 26. I get where you're coming from. However, having been through all of this already, I can tell you that note=bad almost always.

Also, even if the note thing were the best option, hiding it is terrible. It shows a lack of confiidence and it's kind of weaselly/passive aggressive. I'm not attacking you, I'm just trying to show you how she might view it. Think of how awkward it makes it for her. How does she respond whether it's yes or no? You see, she has to do the same worrying thing that you're doing now. How do I bring it up? Should I write a note? Should I lie to him or tell him it's because I'm not into guys? Can I trust him with that information? It is a really small school and teenagers can be really mean.

You get what I'm saying right? I'm just trying to help. None of this was meant to be mean. I just want to make sure that you don't get the wrong idea.

jgg0610

11-27-2007, 03:11 AM

Six, take it from a guy who had it happen. Go ahead and ask her out. My girlfriend prior to the girl who became my wife started playing for the other team shortly after we broke up. It sucks at the time, but you'd much rather know and be a little embarrassed than realize that you just got your signals crossed. The worst thing she can do is say no.

jgg0610

11-27-2007, 03:14 AM

This video is a riot. I'm not sure if anyone's posted this here or not yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeoi16lScf4

Link. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeoi16lScf4)

six-gun

11-27-2007, 03:18 AM

The best attitude to have. Once dudes get over their apprehension in talking to girls, it's smooth sailing. This is why the ladies dig confidence and humor. It's because you are not afraid/intimidated anymore.

I'd like to end this with a wise word from Jimmy Paige and Robert Plant

"
Livin', lovin', she's just a woman
Livin', lovin', she's just a woman
Livin', lovin', she's just a woman"

six-gun

11-27-2007, 03:19 AM

Thanks all.

esophagus

11-27-2007, 03:40 AM

Pretty bad if her reason's that she's gay

I don't know, I feel like I should just give up, but I really like her and I feel some sort of reciprocation but I could be totally wrong. The fact that there's only 37 people in my grade and 220 in my school means that if it's done in the open that the entire student body will know in a dayIt looks like this is all over and done with, but here's my two cents. A girl who I was best friends with is gay. I know her quite well. I know that, had the guy not known she was gay before asking, she wouldn't tell you that was the reason. You'll be wondering just the same whether she rejects you in a note or to your face. I'd ask her to her face.

paper

11-27-2007, 03:43 AM

If she says no to a date it shouldn't matter why. A no is a no. Don't weigh yourself against whoever she'd say yes to or why. Silliness.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 03:50 AM

If she says no to a date it shouldn't matter why. A no is a no. Don't weigh yourself against whoever she'd say yes to or why. Silliness.

I haven't asked, just heard a reliable rumor (an oxymoron If I ever heard one)

six-gun

11-27-2007, 03:54 AM

Silliness.

Step into my boots and walk a mile Pol! Walk a mile! ;)

kahunablair

11-27-2007, 03:56 AM

I haven't asked, just heard a reliable rumor (an oxymoron If I ever heard one)

Wait.. you're freaking about a high school rumor? Dude...
Ask her tomorrow, and be done with it!

six-gun

11-27-2007, 03:59 AM

be done with it!

I tried ;)

I'd like to end this with a wise word from Jimmy Paige and Robert Plant

"Livin', lovin', she's just a woman
Livin', lovin', she's just a woman
Livin', lovin', she's just a woman"

kahunablair

11-27-2007, 04:00 AM

I know, but when I saw those words, I couldn't control myself.

paper

11-27-2007, 04:00 AM

Wait, what are we telling him to ask her?

labor_days

11-27-2007, 04:01 AM

Wait, what are we telling him to ask her?If she'd like to go out to a movie or get a cup of coffee.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 04:02 AM

Wait, what are we telling him to ask her?

Out

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paper

11-27-2007, 04:03 AM

If she'd like to go out to a movie or get a cup of coffee.

Those are the only choices?

labor_days

11-27-2007, 04:04 AM

Well, he can ask her out to go skeet shooting or whatever the kids do these days.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 04:07 AM

I thought we'd maybe listen to Fuzzy Typrewriterr ;)

paper

11-27-2007, 04:14 AM

It's saved many marriages.

six-gun

11-27-2007, 01:13 PM

I slept on it, prayed about it and have come to the realization that maybe there's a reason why this is freaking me out so much, maybe it's just not time. It's stupid for me to let some rumor force my hand into initiating a relationship before its time.

So to end things "Ah, sometimes I grow so tired. But I know I've got one thing I got to do. Ramble on. And now's the time, the time is now"

fred

11-27-2007, 06:09 PM

The coolest product that Amazon sells can be found here (http://www.amazon.com/Fred-HOLYT-Holy-Toast-Stamper/dp/B000KG8E52/ref=pd_bxgy_k_text_b&tag=thweinco-20).

esophagus

11-27-2007, 06:56 PM

Fred, your entire line of products is epic.

kahunablair

11-27-2007, 11:16 PM

Did I mess up my days of the week? Did new books come out today?

I swear I just saw a tumbleweed roll as I was posting this.

labor_days

11-27-2007, 11:18 PM

It's been really slow today. And I've been home most of the day.

You can hear a pin drop around here. Actually, all the other forums are slow too...holiday of some kind?

kahunablair

11-27-2007, 11:30 PM

Apparently.
Thanksgiving must have gotten spread out to today.

six-gun

11-28-2007, 12:12 AM

I was just too busy today to post :(

itsbecca

11-28-2007, 12:28 AM

I think I've mentioned before an older guy at my work who's a huge batman fan. Anyway, he's supposedely fallen on hard times and needed gas money to make his sale calls today, so he sold me a big box that's basically a Batman grab bag. It's a handful of trades, a bunch of old issues of Detective Comics & Batman, early arcs of Nightwing, most of Jeph Loeb's run on Superman/Batman, a few random mini series I've never heard of and for some reason something called "Barker the Beagleman". He wanted 40 bucks when he called ahead, but took (without complaint) the money I had on me at the time... 13 bucks. Desperate people rock.

(Don't feel bad for him he told me a lot of these were extra copies he'd bought because "you never know what issue's going to hit it big". Plus he's a perv and a sheister.)

kahunablair

11-28-2007, 01:03 AM

(Don't feel bad for him he told me a lot of these were extra copies he'd bought because "you never know what issue's going to hit it big". Plus he's a perv and a sheister.)

Still got to pity the poor bastard. Even if he's a speculator! ;)

paper

11-28-2007, 01:05 AM

There's a cabinet above my desk at home. It's really a bank of four cupboards from Ikea. Really solid. One fell today. On me. It was filled with old VHS tapes. I'm actually lucky to be alive. If it had landed directly on my head it would have split my head open. Instead, it landed on my chest and forced me backwards into my bed, which runs parallel to my desk. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Just stayed there under the cabinet for a good 5 minutes trying to calm down.

It was almost limitless paper in a Paperless world today...

six-gun

11-28-2007, 01:08 AM

Still got to pity the poor bastard. Even if he's a speculator! ;)

Yeah, you're being too cold Becca

kahunablair

11-28-2007, 01:14 AM

Darn, Pol! Glad to hear you surived, man.

Labor split his hand yesterday, you were nearly Wicked Witched by a falling cabinet.... WHOSE NEXT???

Yeah, you're being too cold Becca
I don't really think she's being cold. Sometimes it's hard to have pity for someone if they brought an entire situation on themselves.
We don't know the full story so it's easy for us to be objective.

labor_days

11-28-2007, 01:15 AM

Even if he's a speculator!

What an insult among our kind. Harsh words, Kahuna.

paper

11-28-2007, 01:15 AM

All my posts flashed before my eyes.

conorkilpatrick

11-28-2007, 01:20 AM

Yeah, you're being too cold Becca

I don't think it's possible to be cold enough to speculators. Especially pervy ones.

itsbecca

11-28-2007, 01:20 AM

I don't really think she's being cold. Sometimes it's hard to have pity for someone if they brought an entire situation on themselves.
We don't know the full story so it's easy for us to be objective.

Hit on the nose. Like I said he's a sheister. He cheated several people in the office out of their money on this scheme for cheap GPS's. He borrows money from people all the time and never repays them, even though he's making good money in comparison to some of the other reps (our system is very transparent). He owes hundreds of dollars all over the office. What goes around comes around eh?

Plus. Perv. He hits on me and the other girls all the time.

So I get Batman. Hooray!