Anyone Watch The Republican Debate?

[njshadow]

Anyone? Thoughts?

[ariastar]

Politicians suck?

[crumbles]

Anyone? Thoughts?By any chance, did you mean to post this on another forum?

[ryudo]

Politicians suck?


We know that but makes a topic no fun when people don't type up huge posts trying to sound smart and thousands of links to get a point across when no one is really convincing the other so the topic goes on forever with nothing settled.:D

[bigstupid]

Duncan Hunter: I don't even know why he was there... seriously.

John McCain: He certainly wanted to act like a president... but, I don't see him being a president. His veto pen propaganda was horrible and I doubt he would be so likely to use it as president anyway. In my opinion, he got way too much talk time for someone that is a non issue. Obviously, this is just my opinion.

Fred Thompson: Well.. he's not so bad.... but, he's not really that good either. He simply didn't break out here, at this particular debate.

Rudy Giuliani (I almost went into seizures trying to spell that): In my opinion he is not the guy to be president of the United States... He might not be any less qualified from certain standpoints, but he simply does not inspire any confidence in his ability to truly do what a president must do, nor does he inspire a forthright manner. He got a lot of talk time, but it's only because he's Rudy Giulidjifodj (there I go again).

Mitt Romney: Yeah, for all the people that actually like Mitt... well... he looked pretty bad out there (actually, physically he looked in better health than most, but that's not what I'm talking about). He couldn't give a straight answer to a number of questions (which weren't that hardball by the way). It seems to me he lost some credibility here.

Mike Huckabee: Yeah, I get it... he did well here. But, the questions were easy for him... I will give you that he has a pleasant demeanor and he has definite stances on the issues discussed. I mean a religious question? Come on.

Tom Tancredo: Actually for the questions he did manage to get in on, he did pretty well. In fact, he seemed to be one of the strongest there tonight.

Ron Paul: What can I say, he doesn't waver. He doesn't flip flop. He doesn't cater. He had very limited talk time, much like Tancredo, but he did the best he could with the BS question they threw at him. I mean, you try and make him sound like a kook and he responds with a reasoned argument... hello is this thing on? Yes, I said reasoned.

In my view, there were three candidates that stood out as clear winners in this particular debate: Huckabee, Paul, and yes Tancredo.

Huckabee, because of his presence and easy manner, supplemented by softball questions.
Paul, because of his consistent message and straight forward approach, even in the face of what appeared to be a 'lets see how he does with this one hehe' question.
Tancredo, because he actually stood up and had something to say and he said it well.


My vote for this particular debate is Paul, only because he, above all, truly in my opinion stands for what matters.

[maxiscool1994]

I didn't really watch it, but to me, it is not that important, because I am a major democrat.

[tokenuser]

I didn't really watch it, but to me, it is not that important, because I am a major democrat.... and at 13 can't vote :)

Republican debates are kinda pointless. I get the feeling that the country is pretty discenchanted by the Republicans and feel disenfranchised by the current government. IIRC there was a larger focus on the Democratic debates by a lot of (non born again christian fundamentalist) Republicans to see who they might vote for on that side of the fence.

[phatlip12]

... and at 13 can't vote :)

Republican debates are kinda pointless. I get the feeling that the country is pretty discenchanted by the Republicans and feel disenfranchised by the current government. IIRC there was a larger focus on the Democratic debates by a lot of (non born again christian fundamentalist) Republicans to see who they might vote for on that side of the fence.

The republican debates are just as important as the democratic debates though. Personally, I doubt a republicans going to get it this time around due to the sour taste Bush left in everyones mouth but it's still important to hear both debates regardless of political belief. You just may find someone outside of your party that you like (it's stupid to follow either party blindly).

[maxiscool1994]

I realize that, but this year, not one of the Republican candidates seems to be good enough to take the office. I don't really agree with any of them, and their front-runner, Giuliani, strikes me as a true politician: someone who will tell the public just what they want to here.

With that in mind, and the fact that I can't legally vote, just influence the votes of my parents, I did not take the time to watch the debate. Plus, I monitor the candidates through other sources. Sometimes, debates aren't the most accurate place to form your opinions, because many candidates are somewhat two-faced, so you need to look at the bigger picture.

[phatlip12]

I realize that, but this year, not one of the Republican candidates seems to be good enough to take the office. I don't really agree with any of them, and their front-runner, Giuliani, strikes me as a true politician: someone who will tell the public just what they want to here.

With that in mind, and the fact that I can't legally vote, just influence the votes of my parents, I did not take the time to watch the debate. Plus, I monitor the candidates through other sources. Sometimes, debates aren't the most accurate place to form your opinions, because many candidates are somewhat two-faced, so you need to look at the bigger picture.

Everyone also said that Bush wouldn't get it the second time around and..well you know how that went.

If there running for president then theres a chance that their going to get it. It's important to know what the person potentially running the country stands for because theres no definite way of saying who will or wont win.

[bigstupid]

... and at 13 can't vote :)

Republican debates are kinda pointless. I get the feeling that the country is pretty discenchanted by the Republicans and feel disenfranchised by the current government. IIRC there was a larger focus on the Democratic debates by a lot of (non born again christian fundamentalist) Republicans to see who they might vote for on that side of the fence.

I agree that the country is disenchanted with the government, not specifically by Republicans. Not all Republicans are Christian fundamentalists and to say so marginalizes the individuals in the party, more so than the party. The Christian faith plays a big role in core values, but, you could say the same for Democrats, even though it's not generally looked at that way. I'm not overly religious at all... in fact, I think while religion has it's place, it can do more harm than good, at times. Mostly, because religion and it's interpretation of it, is man made.

I think there is actually a very good chance a Republican will get elected again. Only because there are key issues out there that on the Democrat sice... well.... they just fail at. Not to mention that they want more entitlement programs, more government, more taxes.

Of course, to be fair; Bush gave us more government as well... which is why many Republicans are not happy with him... many.

I thought it interesting that Ron Paul got booed and applauded and that ultimately the applause won out.... this is very telling to me. The party and the people are sick of the same-old-same-old.

I also think this is why Hilary isn't a 'shoe-in' for the Democratic ticket.... she's the biggest fake of all. What's even better; she's as militaristic as any of them.

That's why I'm Pro Ron Paul and I think Democrats should be as well. In fact, I think Democrats should change their party affiliation, so they can vote for him in their state primaries.

[bigstupid]

I realize that, but this year, not one of the Republican candidates seems to be good enough to take the office. I don't really agree with any of them, and their front-runner, Giuliani, strikes me as a true politician: someone who will tell the public just what they want to here.

With that in mind, and the fact that I can't legally vote, just influence the votes of my parents, I did not take the time to watch the debate. Plus, I monitor the candidates through other sources. Sometimes, debates aren't the most accurate place to form your opinions, because many candidates are somewhat two-faced, so you need to look at the bigger picture.


Giuliani is not a 'the' front runner. I don't think he has as much a chance as you think he does.

[njshadow]

For me this is how it looks:

-Romney and Guliani tied for first
-Huckabee in at a close second.
-McCain in at third.

It's a shame. All four of these guys have individual characteristics that I love but I just wish that one of them could exemplify ALL of those qualities. Too much inconsistency.

[ariastar]

You just may find someone outside of your party that you like (it's stupid to follow either party blindly).

Which is why I severely dislike the party system. It's created sheeple who only vote the way they're told to, like a popularity contest in high school. Only in high school it matters little in the scheme of life whereas this...well, it's the difference between basic freedoms and fearing stepping out the front door.

I'm a registered Dem, but at this point, would vote Paul.

[ariastar]

Ron Paul: What can I say, he doesn't waver. He doesn't flip flop. He doesn't cater. He had very limited talk time, much like Tancredo, but he did the best he could with the BS question they threw at him. I mean, you try and make him sound like a kook and he responds with a reasoned argument... hello is this thing on? Yes, I said reasoned.


That he hasn't wavered is why he's got my support. Kerry flip-flopped so much in 2004 I still couldn't tell you where he actually stood on anything. And when you don't waver, you eventually encounter a lot of man say he's going against popular opinion when trying to be elected because he truly believes in something than to have one lie, say what he thinks I (and everyone else) wants to hear, then do something else once he's in.

[comhcinc]

i love the fact that someone used the term "sheeple" and then in the very next post carried the party line that kerry is a "flip flopper''. that's so awesome.


i talk about a debate when i see one. so far all i have seen is a bunch of question and answer sections. full of mostly pre-approved questions. this goes for both parties.

you want to see a real debate? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K41UAAbMzIg&feature=related

say what you like about the french but at least they know how to debate. people sitting face to face going at it.