New MacBook Pros

[wastern]

Core 2 Duo
FW 800 on all models
Dual Layer SuperDrive
Upto 3gb RAM
Upto 200gb HDD



I'm not officially outdated.....or I guess I should say "old school"

[Casework]

Damn. I figured they would be more expensive, at least. This kind of irritates me, to be honest. I just spent $3000 on my MacBook Pro what... 4 months ago? Now all these upgrades for the same price? Apple has great support, but I'd like to see them fix bugs and improve the exsisting models of MacBook Pros rather than take my money, turn around and make something better, for the same price, and essentially forget about all the current owners.

Although, I will say all that seems a bit unnecessary. And that's coming from someone who does some editing. It's great that you can expand even more now, but I can't imagine even utilizing all of that power and space. It almost seems like they just gave people a better argument to only buy the low-end MacBook Pro instead of the 17-inch, which is what I did because I needed/wanted some extra power.

[wastern]

I'm pretty upset too. Powerbooks had FW800 and DL Superdrive. My MacBook Pro seemed like a step backward outside of being Intel


About 3 weeks after I couldn't exchange mine they upgraded them to a faster processor and dropped the price, so basically lost $500 of the value. Right there, not counting this update. Thankfully though the Apples kind of level off in that manor and hold a relatively high value for a long time



That has alway been how Apple has done it though. They have their price point. they just update the system to what that price point can buy at the time. The Mini was rare with its price increase, normally they either leave the price alone or lower it.

[tokenuser]

Welcome to the world of high tech. The sooner you learn that it is obsolete, and outdated the minute you take it out of the store, the happier you will be.

When it comes down to it, the computer you bought is still an awesome machine, and definately fit for purpose.

[Casework]

Welcome to the world of high tech. The sooner you learn that it is obsolete, and outdated the minute you take it out of the store, the happier you will be.

When it comes down to it, the computer you bought is still an awesome machine, and definately fit for purpose.

Most definitely. But when you're a broke college student, $800 cheaper and the only difference is 15.4 inch screen vs. 17 inch screen is a big deal.

I love my computer. Like I said, I really don't think I need all of that power, and I have an External HD, so space isn't an issue for me either. Just the amount of difference with no price change is a bit irritating for someone who just made a big investment. I realize change is inevitable, this just seems almost like a smack in the face. It's bad enough early adopters had to deal with issues that some still haven't been officially or correctly addressed to date. What do we get? An outdated computer within a half a year of purchase.

[phatlip12]

I don't have a Macbook Pro, I have a Macbook but I can understand being envious over the new machines. You gota realize that your machines are by no means outdated though. The same goes for for all things related to technology, how many iPods do you have?

[Jordanddunn]

I am really glad I didn't buy mine like I wanted to last weekend, Mac store here I come!

[Casework]

You gota realize that your machines are by no means outdated though. The same goes for for all things related to technology, how many iPods do you have?

Oh of course. But again, I emphasize that my main gripe is the price. The entry level MacBook Pro is now the same configuration of my MacBook Pro.

Mine - $2799
Now - $1999

If I needed more power and money wasn't an issue, I could have easily gone with a PC. It's just the fact that $800 is essentially wasted because I had to have my computer by August at the latest.

I know they realize that college students are a big part of their rapidly growing market share, so don't you think they'd realize doing this would ultimately piss off a lot of new users(and their parents that paid for it)? I didn't think I could say this about Apple, but it almost seems stupid. I realize they're a business. Their goal is to make money. But with business also comes the relationship with the customer and this just seems like a bad move.

As you say, the technology is by no means outdated, so why couldn't they wait to release this... perhaps around the holiday season? People are still buying MacBooks everyday. If they waited another month and a half and announced this right before Christmas, doesn't that seem more profitable? And on top of that, at least by that time it's been nearly a year since the last major update... shortly thereafter comes Leopard, and spend another half a year at least working on perfecting the next upgrade of systems. After all, the new iPods just came out. The Mac Pro, about a month ago. The MacBook line, just over half a year -- I think most people wanting to buy an Apple product, have in the last 3-4 months, and something like this is just something that came too soon. Again, I'm all for the hardware upgrades, or at least, the ability to upgrade almost as much as you could possibly want(in a notebook). And I think it's great that the prices are pretty much amazing for people looking to buy a computer; I know that people who were able to wait or weren't yet convinced probably think this is the best thing that could have happened... but it just seems like a smack in the face to all the people who have toughed the Spring and Summer with a first-gen product that has had some issues, not all properly addressed by Apple, because we now have an "outdated" machine(in the Apple world).

I'm not in the business of selling computers, but that all seems a bit more logical to me.

[tokenuser]

Oh of course. But again, I emphasize that my main gripe is the price. The entry level MacBook Pro is now the same configuration of my MacBook Pro.

Mine - $2799
Now - $1999

If I needed more power and money wasn't an issue, I could have easily gone with a PC. It's just the fact that $800 is essentially wasted because I had to have my computer by August at the latest. You paid RETAIL! ... damn, you got ripped off. Should have waited for the college ID and got the academic discount.

Apple have always supported students, but the reality is that (particularly now) unless you need MacOS, a similarly configured machine from other manufacturers will cost about the same MSRP, BUT unlike Apple, you can find them onsale, or apply discount coupons to significantly reduce the price.

[Casework]

You paid RETAIL! ... damn, you got ripped off. Should have waited for the college ID and got the academic discount.

Apple have always supported students, but the reality is that (particularly now) unless you need MacOS, a similarly configured machine from other manufacturers will cost about the same MSRP, BUT unlike Apple, you can find them onsale, or apply discount coupons to significantly reduce the price.

The discount isn't the issue. I got mine through CompUSA because of the payment plan they offered. While I could have saved maybe a hundred bucks through Apple, 18 months same as cash was the better deal.

[phatlip12]

The discount isn't the issue. I got mine through CompUSA because of the payment plan they offered. While I could have saved maybe a hundred bucks through Apple, 18 months same as cash was the better deal.

Apple offers payment plans as well...

[tommyfullington]

Seeing that I still use a 12" powerbook lol. Give me one reason to buy one, mainly it's preference, I need something small and mobile.Unless you're a professional, or you edit videos on the go.. I see no reason to buy a macbook pro. Upgrade the video card if you're going to put a revised model out. The expanded memory capacity is nice for editing video... The Double layer superdrive was a needed upgrade. I still see no reason to ever upgrade though, for normal people. 64 bit ... still not enough applications to support it, I guess people need the firewire 800... but that's no reason to buy a new laptop. I still see no reason to buy a macbook pro, for normal people that is. Macbooks are fine for them, and more durable. Matte screens are the only thing that convince me, and I use a powerbook.. so that solves my problem.

[Casework]

Apple offers payment plans as well...

No shit?

The CompUSA offer was better. I'm not an idiot.

The discount isn't the issue. I got mine through CompUSA because of the payment plan they offered.
My mom had a "credit card" from Apple after buying an iPod among a few other items last year. Had the Apple payment plan plus the student discount been a better deal, we would have used it.

As I clearly stated...

18 months same as cash was the better deal.

You're trying to argue with me about how I chose to finance my computer. That's not even what this thread is about.

[netburnr]

I'm still using my PB 12" 867. I do video editing on it, and it still running strong. Sure I'd like to have the newer, faster machines, but I'm holding out until 10.5 and native 64 bit OS.

Maybe they will come out with a faster model and I can get the current model on sale if I'm lucky

[Jordanddunn]

Just picked up my macbookpro today, it's... amazing, I absolutely love it. I am so glad I waited the extra week!

[g33k0ft3ch]

I just got the new MacBook Pro yesterday, and its pretty sweet, really fast and you could call it the MacPro of the Macbooks..which is kinda obvious since they are the two high end computers from Apple.

[Casework]

...hence the "Pro" in the name.

[blizzardman]

I waited 6 months for this update *_*. I was going to give in many times during that wait but thank God I waited. Ordered my 15.4 2.33 160gb 2gRAM glossy couple of days ago. Can't wait to get it. My first ever Mac and will be the first time I've used one in almost 7 years.

[g33k0ft3ch]

You have waited seven months for this Macbook Pro? You are hard core, or just a person that loves Core Duo machines.

[phatlip12]

No shit?

The CompUSA offer was better. I'm not an idiot.


Gesh! Calm down, I never said you were an idiot. I was just pointing that out.

[Casework]

Gesh! Calm down, I never said you were an idiot. I was just pointing that out.

I'm perfectly calm, but the only reason to point something like that out would be to prove me wrong on the point, and there was no need for it.

[phatlip12]

I'm perfectly calm, but the only reason to point something like that out would be to prove me wrong on the point, and there was no need for it.

Re-read your post, you said "No shit" and said I was calling you an idiot which was not the case (doesn't sound very calm to me). I was just bringing up the fact that Apple offers payment options as well, I didn't know if you were aware of that or not. How is that trying to "prove you wrong"? Sorry, my crystal ball is broken...it should be fixed by tomorrow ;)

Ps. That last part was a joke of course :P

[phatlip12]

Just picked up my macbookpro today, it's... amazing, I absolutely love it. I am so glad I waited the extra week!

Congrats! :)

[Casework]

Re-read your post, you said "No shit" and said I was calling you an idiot which was not the case (doesn't sound very calm to me). I was just bringing up the fact that Apple offers payment options as well, I didn't know if you were aware of that or not. How is that trying to "prove you wrong"? Sorry, my crystal ball is broken...it should be fixed by tomorrow ;)

Ps. That last part was a joke of course :P

No shit just means thanks for stating the obvious. You're the one trying to make this something. That part of my post was the least relevant to the entire thread, yet people picked it apart like I'm dumb. I'm sorry, but if you think someone would make a $3000 purchase with not being aware of all their options and payment plans, you must think you're talking to an idiot.

Ultimately, the point of my original post(s) were regarding the updated MacBook Pros. My issue was price -- not how I paid for it. You and tokenuser brought up that point of my post to make a point that I "got ripped off" as tokenuser put it. You then added your comments afterwards. None of that was necessary, but you guys made it an issue, so I responded.

[phatlip12]

No shit just means thanks for stating the obvious. You're the one trying to make this something. That part of my post was the least relevant to the entire thread, yet people picked it apart like I'm dumb. I'm sorry, but if you think someone would make a $3000 purchase with not being aware of all their options and payment plans, you must think you're talking to an idiot.

Ultimately, the point of my original post(s) were regarding the updated MacBook Pros. My issue was price -- not how I paid for it. You and tokenuser brought up that point of my post to make a point that I "got ripped off" as tokenuser put it. You then added your comments afterwards. None of that was necessary, but you guys made it an issue, so I responded.

Dude your really blowing this out of the water. I just mentioned that Apple offers payment plans, thats it. Im not making this into anything, you are. Your assuming that I think your an idiot and such just because I pointed something out. Damn dude...

You said you went to Comp USA for their payment plan which lead me to believe that you didn't know that Apple offered a payment plan as well.

[Casework]

Dude your really blowing this out of the water. I just mentioned that Apple offers payment plans, thats it. Im not making this into anything, you are. Your assuming that I think your an idiot and such just because I pointed something out. Damn dude...

You said you went to Comp USA for their payment plan which lead me to believe that you didn't know that Apple offered a payment plan as well.

Yeah man, I'm freaking out over here. You better hope someone calms me down.

If I'm making this out to be bigger than it is, here's an idea, don't respond to me. If I'm being unreasonable, you have no reason to feel like you need to explain yourself to me.

I'm trying to be a dick, and I do thank you for responding to me and explaining yourself, unlike some people, but I feel like you're trying to pin something on me that I didn't start. I was simply replying to the topic at hand.

[phatlip12]

Yeah man, I'm freaking out over here. You better hope someone calms me down.

If I'm making this out to be bigger than it is, here's an idea, don't respond to me. If I'm being unreasonable, you have no reason to feel like you need to explain yourself to me.

I'm trying to be a dick, and I do thank you for responding to me and explaining yourself, unlike some people, but I feel like you're trying to pin something on me that I didn't start. I was simply replying to the topic at hand.


Whatever dude, its pretty obvious whats going on here. Your pissed that your Macbook Pro isn't the "best" and feel the need to take your aggression out on me. Pretty pathetic. Im going to now take your advise because there is no use talking to a person that wants to do nothing but argue.

[Casework]

Whatever dude, its pretty obvious whats going on here. Your pissed that your Macbook Pro isn't the "best" and feel the need to take your aggression out on me. Pretty pathetic. Im going to now take your advise because there is no use talking to a person that wants to do nothing but argue.

Haha, wow. Just as I thought you were going to be mature and realized maybe I did misunderstand your original intent, you reply with this.

I'm perfectly content with my computer. And let me ask you, what in the world would "taking out my aggression" on you over an internet message board do if I'm upset about a computer? If I had the option to exchange my computer with a new one, I wouldn't get the latest and greatest. I would actually "downgrade". My point from the start was the price... not that my computer isn't "good". I made it clear I don't need anymore space or power, I just had gripes that they essentially dropped the price by $800.

I really don't get you. First you say I misunderstood you, then you say I'm blowing it out of proportion, and now you're saying I'm just wanting to argue. Which is it, man? Either I misunderstood you, which means you can ignore my posts(like I suggested), or I want to argue, meaning I totally understood your posts and just wanted to pick a fight.

I'm sorry you think that I'm so pathetic as to pick a fight with someone over the internet to make myself feel better. But dude, I have a life. Maybe you don't know that, because hey, you don't know me. But I really do have better things to do than sit here and reply to you, but I thought I'd give you some respect and at least respond to what you have to say. If you want to take my posts as attacks, then you are mistaken. Again, you're seemingly just trying to pin something on me because you felt like I misunderstood you. So what, maybe I did. Since when does a misunderstanding turn into someone being pathetic? Sorry but I'm not going to "take my anger out on you", and I'm sorry that you think you're that important to me as to get any satisfaction from sitting here posting back and forth with you.

[phatlip12]

How do you guys think the new Macbooks will do when it comes to heating with the addition of these new chips?

[dblshot]

I assume that Apple will address the issues with the new Macbook, also I read the new Intel Core 2 Duo is cooler than the current proc. However, you know what they say about “assume”

[Jordanddunn]

Well so far my macbook pro hasn't gotten too warm. Although it still does get warm, not as bad as the old G4's like what my brother has, but it is still a little warm.

[valleyvampiress]

Does anyone know what the battery life is on the new Core 2 Duos? My current Macbook Pro doesn't last very long (approx. 2 hrs).