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sarahlane
12-18-2007, 07:53 PM
Hello esteemed Gazette board frequenters,

Wanted to give you a heads up that there won't be a Gazette release this week or next week, but there will be a release on Wednesday, January 2nd.

I feel the need to apologize for the Gazette's erratic release schedule as of late. Originally I thought it would be a fun, easy project for me to churn out in addition to my actual full-time job here. Sometimes it is. Other times I'm either slammed, or we need to squeeze in a last-minute shoot and I lose a camera person, or we're down an editor, or our one extra camera mysteriously breaks, or something else happens that pushes the Gazette out. I know it sucks to wait for something and then not get it as promised. Unfortunately, since the Gazette is less of an actual show and more of a behind-the-scenes deal, it's always the first to go if we've got deadline issues. We're a startup working with a pretty small team and are still figuring out how much content we can realistically pull off without biting off more than we can chew. I'm definitely guilty of that.

So... I think it's safe to say that although all of our shows are on regular, weekly schedules, the Gazette won't always be. I'll make every effort to post in this forum and give you all a heads up either way so you aren't left wondering, but it just won't be an iron-clad weekly thing, at least not for now. Sorry guys.

There's some silver lining in all of this, though. For those of you who enjoy seeing my silly mug on a regular basis, there's a lot of cool stuff on the horizon and you're going to be seeing a lot more of me in '08. For those of you who hate me or my grating voice or think I'm a jerk, apologies in advance.

As for "VC Baby", I was quite surprised that folks didn't enjoy it more! I thought it was cute, Justine in particular. Maybe all these candy canes are interfering with my success radar. Oh well. I'll be sure to cross "holiday-inspired music videos" off the list next year.

Finally, I appreciate the candid posts in this forum. Good or bad, your feedback helps us figure out what's working and what isn't. That said, when I read posts that say things like "**** you" and "you should be ashamed of yourself", it makes it difficult for me to take your feedback seriously. We're working really hard to make our viewers happy and trying a lot of new things, so how about a resolution to try to keep some perspective in '08. :)

Yukon Ho!
Sarah

tokenuser
12-18-2007, 08:15 PM
===[ Stickied in the hope that people will read the post before starting the "Where's Ep11?" threads ]===

ryudo
12-18-2007, 08:40 PM
I can wait as long as it's the real Gazette and the viewer suggestions are taken more seriously,Ep 10 was mainly disliked because we usually expect a behind the scenes thing and also rev 3 asks what we would like to see in the show and then after a months wait we see 2 minutes of something that says "we don't listen to the viewers" and esp when this was aired on other shows so it felt like a insult.

The waiting and "next week" stuff while annoying at times I think people can wait as long as rev3 gives it's viewers(customers) what they request.
I am sure if that video was more of an intro or aired after the Gazette it would have received a nicer feedback.

So thanks for responding Sarah.:)

eggspendablecrew
12-18-2007, 08:54 PM
Sarah,

I don't think anyone really disliked the Justine VC video. What they didn't like was waiting for a new version of R3G and getting that in it's place. I think you'll find fans of the Gazette are more then happy to wait for new content as long as release dates are communicated in these forums or on the official blog.

mooking
12-18-2007, 09:26 PM
Thank you for the update. I would like to ask one thing since you will not be doing the show on a regular basis. The Revision 3 web cams http://studiocam.revision3.com/ have been pointing at blank walls for the longest, could you actually point them at some real work being done in the new studio. That would be something nice.

spiri
12-18-2007, 09:38 PM
I completely understand what you are saying! And I'm not one of those who ***** over no new episode every week, I don't see the loose release schedule as a problem, as long as we get some fun and insightful views behind the scenes of Revision3. And that brings me to my next point, "VC Baby". I will admit that I was one of those who disliked it, and I might have written a not so brilliant comment (nothing like "**** you*", though). And I really was disappointed when I saw that there was a new Gazette, and it turned out to be "VC Baby". And not because it was of bad quality, it just wasn't what the Gazette is supposed to be. I found it very fitting that "VC Baby" was also featured in an episode of The Giga Om Show, because it actually made sense to put it there.

So, I want to encourage you to keep the Gazettes coming, at what interval is fitting. But please stick to the original idea :).

thehumaneclipse
12-18-2007, 10:11 PM
Thanks for letting us know that there won’t be a Gazette for a while. Personally, that’s all I ask. If there’s not going to be a Gazette, or a Totally Rad Show or a Tekzilla for that matter, post it on the forums. Just let us know something. That’s all I ask.

One thing I don’t understand though. The time elapse images on your own website. Why not just do those for a Gazette? Granted every episode of a time elapse would get boring, but not if you did it with different people from time to time. No offense, but the Gazette doesn’t always have to be about you.

I know we (the forum posters) have said a lot of stuff about you, R3, and the Gazette, but that’s your fault. You have charm; you have flare, that’s how you got this job. The Gazette and other R3 shows are great and we want them to keep coming. When there’s a delay or a major change, we get upset, especially when we don’t receive an explanation about why there’s a change or a delay. So just keep us, your loyal fans, informed of what’s going on and maybe we won’t bi+ch so much.

Anyway, keep the Gazette going, even if there’s a delay in the release of the episodes. Television on the Internet is fairly new, especially where the shows are original programming, and it’s fascinating to see how its all put together.

Always a fan,
The Human Eclipse

sarahlane
12-18-2007, 11:00 PM
I know we (the forum posters) have said a lot of stuff about you, R3, and the Gazette, but that’s your fault. You have charm; you have flare, that’s how you got this job. The Gazette and other R3 shows are great and we want them to keep coming. When there’s a delay or a major change, we get upset, especially when we don’t receive an explanation about why there’s a change or a delay. So just keep us, your loyal fans, informed of what’s going on and maybe we won’t bi+ch so much.


Yes, people get upset, but is it my fault if they go overboard in forums? Sorry to disagree with you, but verbal abuse is not the way to get what you want. Something to think about.

As for the time lapse video, I'm glad you liked it, but that's a little too much Sarah and not enough content, which is why I put it on my personal website. The song would have also been problematic to clear.

Love,
s

ryudo
12-19-2007, 12:37 AM
Sarah is right that personal insults go nowhere,and many of us responded with insults of some nature or another and I believe that happened as the waiting game then didn't get a show but an afterthought that was on gigaom people took it as an insult and reacted with second nature to insult back BUT rev3 and Sarah meant no insult by it so many of us overreacted through anger.

So some reactions in the end are not justified by any means.

I admit being one who overreacted and drew an insult with the golden shit award topic and apologize.

while Rev3 screwed up it happens and Sarah I am sure behind her keeping calm in text forum responses I can only imagine feeling hurt by some of the things some people said.

Now everyone hug and make up.

:p

masherscf
12-19-2007, 12:57 AM
Personal insults directed at anyone are against the forum rules of conduct.

Report such comments to mods.

xibalba
12-19-2007, 01:03 AM
I complained and blamed the fans for the VC song. Though none agreed. :D

davesecx
12-19-2007, 01:07 AM
So Sarah...

Does this mean you won't have time to go to the prom with me?

Your loyal fan,

Dave

PS - Actually, my prom was 10 years ago and I didn't go to that either.

ryudo
12-19-2007, 01:15 AM
hehe my prom was in 2000 I didn't go either ESP when the school wanted us to pay 65$ to go.:eek:

esalonia
12-19-2007, 03:24 AM
Thank you Sarah. Do what you can. Thanks for listening to the fans.

casework
12-19-2007, 03:50 AM
This is all it takes to make me happy. I can live without the Gazette temporarily if I know you guys are hearing our concerns and working on solutions.

Thank you. :)

thehumaneclipse
12-19-2007, 04:59 AM
Hello, me again. I apologize for any kind of verbal abuse that came across with an earlier post. I didn’t mean for it to come out that way.

When I said that, “it was your fault,” I meant for it to come across as sarcastic. What I meant was that you’re such a great personality on TV and very likable and people want to watch you. If you weren’t, we wouldn’t care. So “it’s your fault” means that you make yourself so likeable that we hate not being able to watch you.

I don’t know that if that clears things up, makes it worse, or is confusing, but I didn’t mean what I said in a bad way. I’m sorry for that. In the past I’ve always tried to avoid forums. Its hard, for me at least, to get across what I’m trying to say because people can’t hear my tone of voice or see my facial expressions, and I’m too shy to video tape myself and post it. This isn’t the first time I’ve been accused of verbally bashing someone. Again, I didn’t mean for it to come out that way.

Anyway, I’m sorry for offending you and anyone else.

Have a Happy Holiday.

crumbles
12-19-2007, 01:55 PM
As for "VC Baby", I was quite surprised that folks didn't enjoy it more!Seriously? This surprised you? We've told you what we enjoy and want to see with the Gazette numerous times. "VC Baby" was not it.

REV3 is so weird, they make all these bizarre decisions. Why not just release it as a random "Holiday Video" on the homepage instead of associating it with R3G? Then REV3 decided to randomly add it to the end of the GigaOm show... Then REV3 decided to re-release an old web drifter episode but then number it as being the new number 14...

REV3 seems to have problems keeping shows as shows. They just mix everything up in an attempt to get more people to view something. It's annoying.... but anyway, I digress...

As I've said, everyone has told you what we want out of R3G and what we have liked in the past and what we didn't like. Everyone told you skits were bad, annoying, and not what we wanted out of R3G. So, when another skit type video got released, I'm shocked that you're shocked that we didn't like it.

This either means we are going to keep getting stuff like this with future episodes, or you aren't listening to the viewers feedback at all.

jasonb
12-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Yes, people get upset, but is it my fault if they go overboard in forums? Sorry to disagree with you, but verbal abuse is not the way to get what you want. Something to think about.

Love,
s

No offense Sarah but in case you didn't notice forums are never a place where intelligences never reigns supremes, or if it does it doesn't remain that way very long.

As I can't speak for anyone other than myself I will make the following comments and leave it at that.

1) I personally didn't mind the Rev3 Gazette with Justine in it. I thought it was a rather cute and a nice way to give other members of the staff just a tad more screen time. Also it was a good way to basically say in somewhat subtle way "Hey this means we're off for holidays see ya in 08"

2) Im perfectly find with you taking however long it is you need to take in order to get an episode together properly and yeah i can see how doing a show when you are already in charge of another one AND have a full time job to do can be tough. So just taking the time to update us should keep most people tame and under control and we thank you for the updates you do give us.

Anyway, happy holidays guys.

mrpopular
12-19-2007, 03:02 PM
Thanks for the heads up Sarah.

jjallday
12-19-2007, 06:21 PM
Thanks for putting out something different than the standard fare. Even if it's not well received sometimes, I think it's great to deviate with things like R3G, to break the monotony of watching Kevin and Alex read stories and drink beer on the couch.

And Justine is repping my hometown of Pittsburgh, so I'm always in favor of having her on anything.

scienceking
12-19-2007, 11:57 PM
I thought VC baby was quite ok. Its just a very "in" joke. Many tech geeks don't really know or care much about the actual industry at all(and really, this is just how a small slice of the industry operates), and may not even have known was "VC" was referring to without thinking about it for a second or two.

ryudo
12-20-2007, 01:04 AM
Never heard of Justine till this video and no idea what VC was..:confused:

jeffgarlick
12-20-2007, 08:55 PM
Sarah,

I'm sorry I didn't see this thread until I was directed to it by somebody over on the "Sarah Lane is LAZY" thread where all the negativity seems to dwell but I'm here now and I want to compliment you!

The fact that you even take the time to produce, film and distribute the Gazette IS greatly appreciated by some of us who see it as a fun treat that is just an extra little love letter to the viewers! Those who don't like it or wish to complain about the content seem VERY ungrateful to me and miss the point that this is about fun as much as information!

I'd rather have "VC Baby" and EVEN "Fruit Club" than nothing at all because even your "failures" are better than many successes by others!

Screw the negativity! I like REV3 Gazette and thank you for making the effort!:)

nextgenxbox
12-21-2007, 01:13 AM
Yey, more Sarah in 08. Awesome. I've been wondering why she isn't a regular on one of the Rev3 shows or has her own regular show since she is one of the most talented there! :)

firestonex
12-21-2007, 01:34 AM
Thanks Sarah. I always love it when I see you guys on the forums.

Dustin Forrester
Firestone X

tomremixed
12-21-2007, 03:41 AM
You should be ashamed of yourself.

I kid, I kid. I'm glad this post was made. It's good to know that you are actually listening to your viewers.

ashrafneo
12-21-2007, 08:03 AM
Is it wrong that I liked VC baby.

jeffgarlick
12-21-2007, 12:13 PM
I'm glad to see that somebody else thought it was good too!:)

For those who don't know - VC = Venture Capital which is a fancy way of saying money that others have invested in Revision3 in order to help start the "business"

When us Newbies liked it, it COULDN'T have been as bad as all the flamers said it was...RIGHT? LOL!:cool:

masherscf
12-21-2007, 01:43 PM
I'm not really sure what the malfunction with VC baby was. I thought it was amusing.

But, Fan-kids have a vision of what they'd like R3G to be and they can be pretty unforgiving when it isn't realized.

I can imagine that between the new studio, Patrick's new kid and kicking out half a dozen new shows in '08, everyone is pretty busy. That means the most interesting thing available for R3G is Marty's stunt double...

Keep the faith, Sarah Lane.

darknessgp
12-21-2007, 05:19 PM
I'm not really sure what the malfunction with VC baby was. I thought it was amusing.

But, Fan-kids have a vision of what they'd like R3G to be and they can be pretty unforgiving when it isn't realized.

I can imagine that between the new studio, Patrick's new kid and kicking out half a dozen new shows in '08, everyone is pretty busy. That means the most interesting thing available for R3G is Marty's stunt double...

Keep the faith, Sarah Lane.

The "malfunction" was that VC Baby isn't behind the scenes. VC Baby isn't what we were told R3G was going to be about. It was amusing and fun, but it isn't R3G. It'd be like if the next Diggnation didn't have Alex or Kevin and had say Heather doing comic book reviews the whole episode. Is it bad? No, but it sure as hell ain't Diggnation.

masherscf
12-21-2007, 05:25 PM
The "malfunction" was that VC Baby isn't behind the scenes. VC Baby isn't what we were told R3G was going to be about. It was amusing and fun, but it isn't R3G. It'd be like if the next Diggnation didn't have Alex or Kevin and had say Heather doing comic book reviews the whole episode. Is it bad? No, but it sure as hell ain't Diggnation.

I suppose you're right. But, I did like it better than "Fruit Club." However, "Fruit Club" was better than a bad SNL skit.

rowlodge
12-21-2007, 06:41 PM
Thank you for the update. I would like to ask one thing since you will not be doing the show on a regular basis. The Revision 3 web cams http://studiocam.revision3.com/ have been pointing at blank walls for the longest, could you actually point them at some real work being done in the new studio. That would be something nice.

i didn't know there were web cams, i suggested it a long time ago, yeah they look like security cameras, boring, could somebody point them at the desk of someone ? ,looks like there bashful and pointed them at the wall. i suggest a more pulled back overview of the whole STUDIO or OFFICES to catch more in the area of the "rev 3 cam " , "oh and one more thing", i sound like, " steve jobs ", uh ..put this up on the front page like a live show going on 24/7 or at least at the top of the blog page , this is how people know its even there. ,one frame per minute ?, hmmm, can it be cranked up to one frame per second or more ?

crumbles
12-21-2007, 06:50 PM
i didn't know there were web cams, i suggested it a long time ago, yeah they look like security cameras, boring, could somebody point them at the desk of someone ? ,looks like there bashful and pointed them at the wall. i suggest a more pulled back overview of the whole STUDIO or OFFICES to catch more in the area of the "rev 3 cam "I would guess they currently don't have the cameras pointing at anything right now for a reason.

mooking
12-22-2007, 06:34 PM
I would guess they currently don't have the cameras pointing at anything right now for a reason.

Yes you may be right, but I since they do have the cams, I wish that some Rev3 member that works in the building would reply about this. Is it that the workers complained about them, or maybe there or is it some contract thing, or maybe just the wall got put up in front of them and no one bothered to move them.

crumbles
12-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Yes you may be right, but I since they do have the cams, I wish that some Rev3 member that works in the building would reply about this. Is it that the workers complained about them, or maybe there or is it some contract thing, or maybe just the wall got put up in front of them and no one bothered to move them.I was referring to the possibility of someone catching a new show, or something REV3 doesn't want the public to know about quite yet.

mooking
12-22-2007, 08:46 PM
I was referring to the possibility of someone catching a new show, or something REV3 doesn't want the public to know about quite yet.

Yes that could be correct, but I would still like to hear somthing from the rev3 people about it one way or the other. It would not hurt them too much.

Bret
12-25-2007, 04:52 AM
Thank you for silencing all the whiners

damnedeyez
12-25-2007, 05:46 AM
I find it a bit odd that VC Baby is listed as the #1 favourite on the main page...considering the complains...unless they're just saying it's the most downloaded.

jeffgarlick
12-26-2007, 09:48 PM
That IS interesting! It's like people complaining about how stupid a TV show is or a magazine or book and then going out and buying it or paying to see it! If NOBODY liked it, why did SO many download/view it?:)

I'm guessing it had SOMETHING to do with Justine! Just wish Sarah would have been involved in it but as I've said along with so many others, it's a treat when she does one of these and her time and responsibilities aren't always going to make that possible. Just be glad for the ones that she does!;)

mooking
12-26-2007, 11:01 PM
I find it a bit odd that VC Baby is listed as the #1 favourite on the main page...considering the complains...unless they're just saying it's the most downloaded.
Justine's web site http://www.justin.tv/ijustine has a l big following, so most of the downloads over the average are probably not from the average Rev3 user.

darknessgp
12-27-2007, 01:48 AM
That IS interesting! It's like people complaining about how stupid a TV show is or a magazine or book and then going out and buying it or paying to see it! If NOBODY liked it, why did SO many download/view it?:)

I'm guessing it had SOMETHING to do with Justine! Just wish Sarah would have been involved in it but as I've said along with so many others, it's a treat when she does one of these and her time and responsibilities aren't always going to make that possible. Just be glad for the ones that she does!;)

umm, hard to judge something if you haven't seen it. There is a reason even really bad movies make money. We all downloaded it cause it had been a month without a R3G. We were promised a really good one, and low and behold we didn't get a real R3G.

crumbles
12-27-2007, 03:30 AM
I find it a bit odd that VC Baby is listed as the #1 favourite on the main page...considering the complains...unless they're just saying it's the most downloaded.Not to mention people don't realize they're fucked until after they've downloaded it. I'm still waiting for the: "Just kidding, here's the real episode!..... in two more weeks...

jeffgarlick
12-27-2007, 10:14 PM
I can't believe that "VC Baby" has spurred this much debate and uproar! Let's all just see it for what it was, a well produced Holiday greeting from Revision3 and move on!

If people didn't like it, that's too bad because I thought it was good and I appreciate ALL the hard work that the REV3 staff and talent put into making this a FAR superior site to ANY other tech site on the web!

And now I've probably just opened the flood gates to a whole new round of complaints about how much better some other site is than Revision3?:rolleyes:

Sarah, I won't even TRY to hide it...I'm a fanboy and appreciate all the work that you do on the Gazette! Please don't let all this negativity bring you down or stop producing a gem! Once every month, every 2 months...whatever THEY'RE ALL GREAT!:)

damnedeyez
12-28-2007, 03:38 AM
umm, hard to judge something if you haven't seen it. There is a reason even really bad movies make money. We all downloaded it cause it had been a month without a R3G. We were promised a really good one, and low and behold we didn't get a real R3G.

That was my point...plus with all the stink about it, others probably downloaded to see what the fuss was about...and Mooking had a point about Justine fans.


Personally, I don't think they should call that column "Favorites" unless they implement a viewer ratings option...just call it most popular/downloaded or something. (Just think of all of the mentally scarring images/videos on the 'net and ask if the large volume of viewing really means they're people's favorite.)

yeah yeah..semantics.

spiri
12-28-2007, 02:14 PM
I can't believe that "VC Baby" has spurred this much debate and uproar! Let's all just see it for what it was, a well produced Holiday greeting from Revision3 and move on!

If people didn't like it, that's too bad because I thought it was good and I appreciate ALL the hard work that the REV3 staff and talent put into making this a FAR superior site to ANY other tech site on the web!

And now I've probably just opened the flood gates to a whole new round of complaints about how much better some other site is than Revision3?:rolleyes:

Sarah, I won't even TRY to hide it...I'm a fanboy and appreciate all the work that you do on the Gazette! Please don't let all this negativity bring you down or stop producing a gem! Once every month, every 2 months...whatever THEY'RE ALL GREAT!:)
As mentioned multiple times in this thread, the problem with VC Baby for many of us was tat it wasn't Gazette material, and not that it was a sucky video (which I don't think it was!). Has it just been released as a special holiday thingy from Rev3 on the blog or something, I'm sure there wouldn't have been such an uproar.

zedizdead
12-28-2007, 11:09 PM
When I saw VC Baby I just thought of it as a little holiday greeting. It's amazing to me that people are going crazy over it.

"But it's not the R3G format, whaaaa whaaaa!" What a bunch of babies.

If people are truly and I mean truly upset over this, I think they need to re-examine their life. IMO

Sarah, there are plenty of folks around here who actually appreciate your efforts. You don't have to explain yourself.

Peace.

spiri
12-29-2007, 04:54 PM
So when should we stop this stupid discussion? I think almost everybody have made their points multiple times.

Why don't we just quit this, and instead start looking forward to what goodies Sarah might have for us in future Gazettes?

darknessgp
12-29-2007, 05:49 PM
So when should we stop this stupid discussion? I think almost everybody have made their points multiple times.

Why don't we just quit this, and instead start looking forward to what goodies Sarah might have for us in future Gazettes?

It is my understanding that Sarah had no involvement in the "VC Baby" video. The blog post by Prager, makes it sound like they quickly put the video together and he doesn't mention Sarah's name. I'm just wondering if Sarah said it was ok to put it as a R3G or not.

Even so, I think it's worth noting that it seems that perhaps Rev3 doesn't understand the R3G viewers and what the majority of them want. Also seems to me that the What I want to see thread is the ignored thread. Maybe it'll be better (as in what R3G promises) whenever they come back. We'll have to wait and see.

spiri
12-30-2007, 02:59 PM
Maybe it'll be better (as in what R3G promises) whenever they come back. We'll have to wait and see.
Exactly, so let's do just that :)

jeffgarlick
12-30-2007, 03:58 PM
Exactly, so let's do just that :)

AMEN TO THAT!:)

jellicoe
01-02-2008, 04:07 PM
Lets get some perspective on this. It's just a web cast. Don't let what little life you have, revolve around it. Sarah will post when and if she wants. Get over it. Get on to more important things as to what color shoes she has on.

joesixpack
01-05-2008, 01:33 AM
I kind of liked it. But, then there is a reason for my name.

smes
01-07-2008, 02:31 AM
Where is the latest episode?

darknessgp
01-07-2008, 03:58 AM
Lets get some perspective on this. It's just a web cast. Don't let what little life you have, revolve around it. Sarah will post when and if she wants. Get over it. Get on to more important things as to what color shoes she has on.

I would agree, but let's put some perspective on it. Sarah announced the release, then failed to delivery. Not her fault though, I seriously didn't expect any one to work over the holiday. But if there are more failed releases for ANY show, it reflects poorly on Rev3 as a company. It is a valid point that the R3G isn't funded, and seems to be little more than a vid-blog, though not sure I'd even call it that. However, it is being put out publicly with the Rev3 name on it. I'd hate for Rev3 to miss out on business opportunities because there little "web cast" had too many bumps in the road.

thehumaneclipse
01-07-2008, 07:54 PM
The paying members of Revision3 have complained that they're not getting anything for their money.

The Revision3 Gazette, from my (limited) understanding, isn't funded. And from my (limited) understanding, that's why it's such a throwaway show and isn't on every week.

So why not use the money from the paying members to fund the Gazette and keep it going?

Is the money going somewhere else that I'm not aware of. If so then I understand.

But if the money from paying members goes to the Gazette then shouldn't the Gazette be for paying members only like it was in the beginning?

How about the money from paying members keeps the Gazette going and the paying memebers (only) get to see a 20 to 30 minute Gazette (for example) and the non paying members get to see a 10 minute (which is what we've been watching) version of the Gazette?

Sound good?

joey85
01-09-2008, 04:16 AM
The paying members of Revision3 have complained that they're not getting anything for their money.

The Revision3 Gazette, from my (limited) understanding, isn't funded. And from my (limited) understanding, that's why it's such a throwaway show and isn't on every week.

So why not use the money from the paying members to fund the Gazette and keep it going?

Is the money going somewhere else that I'm not aware of. If so then I understand.

But if the money from paying members goes to the Gazette then shouldn't the Gazette be for paying members only like it was in the beginning?

How about the money from paying members keeps the Gazette going and the paying memebers (only) get to see a 20 to 30 minute Gazette (for example) and the non paying members get to see a 10 minute (which is what we've been watching) version of the Gazette?

Sound good?

They've already tried that, R3G was ONLY for paying members for a while, with no release to non paying members at all. But people bitched and moaned about that and started downloading it from other websites/bit torrent - So I guess Rev3 just figured since everyone was watching it one way or another, might as well make it free.

thezach
01-10-2008, 06:13 AM
The paying members of Revision3 have complained that they're not getting anything for their money.

The Revision3 Gazette, from my (limited) understanding, isn't funded. And from my (limited) understanding, that's why it's such a throwaway show and isn't on every week.

So why not use the money from the paying members to fund the Gazette and keep it going?

Is the money going somewhere else that I'm not aware of. If so then I understand.

But if the money from paying members goes to the Gazette then shouldn't the Gazette be for paying members only like it was in the beginning?

How about the money from paying members keeps the Gazette going and the paying memebers (only) get to see a 20 to 30 minute Gazette (for example) and the non paying members get to see a 10 minute (which is what we've been watching) version of the Gazette?

Sound good?

I guess lets describe it this way - as far as I can tell no ones sponsers R3G so work is most likely prioritized in a way that sponsered work gets a higher priority.

thehumaneclipse
01-10-2008, 06:28 AM
I guess lets describe it this way - as far as I can tell no ones sponsers R3G so work is most likely prioritized in a way that sponsered work gets a higher priority.

That was kind of my point. Is there any reason why the paying members money couldn't sponsor the Gazette? That way, it's a sponsored show that could keep being produced.

kiegh
01-11-2008, 09:28 AM
so how about a resolution to try to keep some perspective in '08. :)

Ahh perspective, someone watched the Google DTM video.

I think you could totally play the title of this thread into a new little daily short clip segment done by someone else in the office who tells about the updates of the day. "R3G: Update" R3g = Regular. Snap, I'm onto something. It doesn't have to be more than 2 minutes like Patrick's new Tekzilla Daily stuff.

Just a few thoughts from me, keep up the good work.

-craig

kronos6948
01-18-2008, 07:03 AM
I didn't see this much flak over the old Diggnation holiday special...They didn't keep with their usual programming of sitting, drinking and talking about Digg stories, they did a funny little skit showing them cutting a turkey. Cut Sarah a break. She's more a producer than anything at Rev3, and it seems like the Gazette was just a fun little thing for her to do FOR US.

I enjoyed the Fruit Club thing for what it was. A funny skit to give us something until something interesting was happening behind the scenes at Rev3. Think about it like this...If someone asked you to do a show about what goes on behind the scenes at your job, do you think you'd have material every week? At least material that would keep people's interest in your show? It's a tough thing to do. That's why any behind the scenes shows are usually a one-off special. I've never seen a serial that was the behind the scenes of a serial, or a TV show. You know why? Because they take the best of the mundane workaday world that shows actually are and put them into one huge clip show.

Granted, I didn't get the VC Baby thing (first thing I thought was "Viet Cong"? Until I watched it), but it simply was a holiday thank you.

Show some appreciation for what's coming to you FOR FREE.

All in all, I don't pay for cable, and Rev3's shows are what keep me entertained throughout the week. For that I'm thankful.

Please don't think I'm going Chris Crocker about Sarah Lane, I just wanted to give you some perspective.