Sony's Lost It

[buxomia]

I thought they had reached the peak of their insanity....but now with these new ads for the PS3, I'm convinced they've all gone completely senile.

"The Wait" was one thing, but this...

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/your-granny-will-just-love-the-ps3-209969.php

This is RETARDED!

[bigyanks]

I have no idea what i just saw? the only thing i got out of that was to buy my grandmother a bullet proof vest.

[imagineer99]

I'm convinced that the PS3 is the culmination of the most elaborate prank every pulled on PUNKED!

The only way this can end well for Sony, is if Ken Kutaragi rips off his face--Mission:Impossible style--and reveals himself to be Ashton Kutcher.

I know PS3 bashing is the norm, but JESUS, what in the hell are they thinking?

[diela]

I think the implication is that they're busting apart the old way of looking at games and gaming.

However, *I* could have found a much more exciting and engaging approach to saying the same thing, and I suck at writing Ad copy.

Plus that british chick's voice-over was SNORE-inducing.

[bird603568]

ive seen car commercials better than that. that was a serious waste of almost 2 minutes of my life

[point5o]

Yeah, that sucked. Wtf Sony? Although in their defense when you have that much money, you can afford the really good drugs.

[masherscf]

Time to sell your stock in Sony.

[icedsoul]

I dont care about any of their intensions... this was just a crappy ad... waaaaaaaaaaaay to long and to stupid...

god I am glad I havent preordered that ps3 yet... I am scared.

[jonathanlondon]

That was TERRIBLE. I can't believe that shit. That was god awful.

I talked to a friend of mine who has a job at Activision on Saturday who said they had a few PS3s in the office for development. He said NOT to buy the first wave because they heat up pretty bad. So hold off if you're gonna buy it and wait for them to fix the bugs!

I'm glad Nintendo fixed the bugs in my gamecube and called it a Wii.

[icedsoul]

I'm glad Nintendo fixed the bugs in my gamecube and called it a Wii.


LOOOL... true!

[imagineer99]

I'm glad Nintendo fixed the bugs in my gamecube and called it a Wii.

LOL! It's funny cause it's true.

[buxomia]

The more I think about it, the more this ad reminds me of SkyNet.

Has anyone done the Terminator 3-D "ride" at Universal Studios Orlando? There's this huge ad for SkyNet and this totally feels like it would be a part of that.

[jonathanlondon]

The more I think about it, the more this ad reminds me of SkyNet.

Has anyone done the Terminator 3-D "ride" at Universal Studios Orlando? There's this huge ad for SkyNet and this totally feels like it would be a part of that.

I just saw that thing last Friday night at the one at Universal Studios LA. And the difference is that I was entertained by the Skynet one. This just feels like someone sent ad money to an agency when it could have gone to DannyT instead. It's so ridiculous.

SHOW US SOME GAMES!!!!!!!!!

[satori]

SHOW US SOME GAMES!!!!!!!!!

adult advisory:
http://sawatex.x0.com/games/ffks_tri.html

[tokenuser]

adult advisory:
http://sawatex.x0.com/games/ffks_tri.htmlWorks for me - Sony is a Japanese company afterall.

[icedsoul]

adult advisory:
http://sawatex.x0.com/games/ffks_tri.html

that would make the ps3 much more interesting...

[mormonrage]

SHOW US SOME GAMES!!!!!!!!!

No one does that. Remember MS's "Jump In" campaign?

[avcabob]

I actually started cleaning my desk after the first 2 seconds of that.

[ariastar]

I dont care about any of their intensions... this was just a crappy ad... waaaaaaaaaaaay to long and to stupid...

god I am glad I havent preordered that ps3 yet... I am scared.

I'm considered pre-ordering simply to have one mint in the box as a collector's item to sell in the future. "Yeah, kids, this was from the very last day Sony was around. They released this thing and then all went up in a flame of hell-fire!"

[ariastar]

However, you've got to admit that this has been great advertising. It's made them noticed in the competitive gaming market. Now when it's released, if it totally and completely kicks ass, and you know we'll all be waiting for the reviews, then whoever is in charge of this marketing campaign will be considered a genius. Kind of like whoever came up with those annoying-as-hell Fandango bag puppets.

[njshadow]

Time to sell your stock in Sony.

Sadly, this is true. I believe Sony's stock dopped immensely when word got out about a PS3 parts shortage.

[tarmanydyn]

Some notes

- Lol, you can poke her in the eye...

- The ad really wasn't that bad, at least in contrast to some of their other ads. I think they need to stop being pretentious, and start being creative.

- Anybody who thinks the PS3 is going to fail, or be the death of Sony, is simply put, an idiot.

- Lastly, bad ad correlates to bad quality games/hardware....... how?...

I find it funny that it's the people who don't like Sony are the ones that pay attention to Sony the most. Moral of the story: Stop letting Sony sell you the PS3, they really suck at it, you're better off finding info on it yourself, unless you want to be ignorant towards it, whatever, your prerogative.

[satori]

I find it funny that it's the people who don't like Sony are the ones that pay attention to Sony the most. Moral of the story: Stop letting Sony sell you the PS3, they really suck at it, you're better off finding info on it yourself, unless you want to be ignorant towards it, whatever, your prerogative.

heheh... yeah, all the stories on digg for the PSP are negative DS rocks, PSP sucks articles.

[vegasgeek]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Sony should stop wasting time and money with advertisments...and just buy a shovel. it's a hell of a lot easier to dig a hole that way. I for one can't wait until Sony falls from the top of the line to a has-been. And before some jump down my throat, I've been bashing sony since way before the 360 was out. To some extent that justifies my means...because I was talking shizz before it became the cool thing to do in the gaming community. And besides, why waste money on something that will work for a week out-of-box? At the managers meeting for GameStop & EB Games, the PS3 was barley running. And yes they were completed systems. Almost nobody wants one and the people that do will soon find out they don't really want one either.

[strongoloid]

"However, you've got to admit that this has been great advertising. It's made them noticed in the competitive gaming market. Now when it's released, if it totally and completely kicks ass, and you know we'll all be waiting for the reviews, then whoever is in charge of this marketing campaign will be considered a genius. Kind of like whoever came up with those annoying-as-hell Fandango bag puppets."

Interesting point. They succeeded in that we're talking about and analyzing their ad in this forum (however poop the ad was), then discussing the product itself. The heat issue that London mentioned is a good reason to wait to buy a PS3, until I remember that I can't afford a 600 dollar console and go to school at the same time.

Unless I use your tax dollars (Cal-Grants) to buy one.

[tarmanydyn]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Sony should stop wasting time and money with advertisments...and just buy a shovel. it's a hell of a lot easier to dig a hole that way. I for one can't wait until Sony falls from the top of the line to a has-been. And before some jump down my throat, I've been bashing sony since way before the 360 was out. To some extent that justifies my means...because I was talking shizz before it became the cool thing to do in the gaming community. And besides, why waste money on something that will work for a week out-of-box? At the managers meeting for GameStop & EB Games, the PS3 was barley running. And yes they were completed systems. Almost nobody wants one and the people that do will soon find out they don't really want one either.

Wow, should I even bother...

- If Sony's ever going to fall, it's not going to be a because of the PS3

- A 'justified' fanboy, ahhahaha...

- 'week out-of-box', o rly...

- GameStop/EB employees, where to find all the technical know-how for video games.

- How can the hardware 'barley be running', elaborate please, cause I think this ends up to something involving beer.

- Japan wants one

[tarmanydyn]

heheh... yeah, all the stories on digg for the PSP are negative DS rocks, PSP sucks articles.

It's really frustrating actually, the people bringing up good points in Sony's favor are always dugg down, even if the comment itself is technically correct or plausible, it's Sony hate for the sake of Sony hate, it's really childish, and indicative of the mentality of the people who bash Sony.

[strongoloid]

Not just the people who bash Sony, but people who jump onto bandwagons that don't have critical thinking capabilities. It's one (dumb) thing to bash on Sony because everyone else does, it's another when you have real reasons. Same thing with defending Sony, or anything for that matter.

Yes, it is frustrating.

[vegasgeek]

- If Sony's ever going to fall, it's not going to be a because of the PS3

- A 'justified' fanboy, ahhahaha...

- 'week out-of-box', o rly...

- GameStop/EB employees, where to find all the technical know-how for video games.

- How can the hardware 'barley be running', elaborate please, cause I think this ends up to something involving beer.

- Japan wants one

1. Since the Playstation makes up the majority of Sony's profits, yes, if PS3 fails then Sony will limp out of exsistence.

2. Not a fanboy, a smart consumer who knows crap when he see's it.

3. When the PS2 came out they had about a 65-70% defective rate, the PS3, i assume, will be much worse.

4. Since the 4 store managers i know went to the meeting and have no system bias, they were broke down or barley working at all.

5. Yeah, sure they do. because what do they like to play? regurgitated RPGs they've been play for years. Plus they favorite game developers are on board for Sony only, Except one of their heavy hitters Squar Enix. they are making 6 games, 2 for the PoS3, 2 for the Wii, and 2 for the 360. Why? Because they're afraid if they stick with Sony and Sony fails...so do they. they're branching out because A) they like money, and multiplatforming is they way to go. And B) Sticking exclusivity to a system that doesn't look to have a lasting future is suicide.

[buxomia]

Well, Sony won't fail if the PS3 does, but their computer division might.

They're right on the money with their movies and music, so they'll always be a booming business, but the way they handle the computer division is sloppy and unprofessional.

[strongoloid]

"1. Since the Playstation makes up the majority of Sony's profits, yes, if PS3 fails then Sony will limp out of exsistence."

Where did you see that the PS makes up the majority of their profits?

[sugarsickness]

3. When the PS2 came out they had about a 65-70% defective rate, the PS3, i assume, will be much worse.Yeah, sucks that Sony is the only company to produce systems with a first run defect.






So who bought a 360?

[vegasgeek]

http://www.bizasia.com/companies_/h8s29/sony_profit_shows_dramatic.htm

http://psp.ign.com/articles/721/721539p1.html

http://www.igniq.com/2006/08/ps3-sonys-strategy-is-flawed.html

With these you'll see that Sony puts itself at the mercy of the playstation...sure they make other stuff...but it seems they rely completly on the playstation. So since they are putting more time into that then anything else, where do you think a majority of their money will come from? The PS3. if you'll note on the first article, as the PS2 supply and demand slowed...so did Sony's profits. They've got TV's, Computers, Etc.. But most of their money comes from consoles/games.

[vegasgeek]

Yeah, sucks that Sony is the only company to produce systems with a first run defect.






So who bought a 360?

Yes i did, and almost all the things you heard were almost all user error. the 360 had a 10-20% defective rate. which considered among most new electronics and technology is almost flawless. all new electronics and technology has a defective rate, just not as bad as sony.

Any other words you'd like to put in my mouth?

[tarmanydyn]

"Not just the people who bash Sony, but people who jump onto bandwagons that don't have critical thinking capabilities. It's one (dumb) thing to bash on Sony because everyone else does, it's another when you have real reasons. Same thing with defending Sony, or anything for that matter."

Well said, but in case this was inadvertently (or blatently, whatever) directed at me as well, I defend Sony because so few will, while I do agree that their business practices are less than 'desirable', but people seem to forget that they are still, in fact, a business. Last I checked, there wasn't a very favorable preconception with any company in the 'business of money', more power to you if you can make a buck through ethical means, but know that it's a 'stupid' prospect.


"1. Since the Playstation makes up the majority of Sony's profits, yes, if PS3 fails then Sony will limp out of exsistence."

Bux cleared this one, this one, primary != only. They have their other divisions to fall back on, they may be stupid, but they're not idiots.


"2. Not a fanboy, a smart consumer who knows crap when he see's it."

So it's safe to assume you bought a PS2 then. And saying the PS3 is crap is just ignorant, if it's not for you, then hey, don't buy one, but don't spread propaganda, claiming to be the word of god.


3. When the PS2 came out they had about a 65-70% defective rate, the PS3, i assume, will be much worse.

I'd like to see a source, cause if that was true, it never would have gotten past the FCC. True that the lens for the first PS2's were faulty, but to that high a degree, I doubt it. And besides, early adapters of hardware only have themselves to blame about hardware defects, Sony isn't the only one guilty of them FYI.

And assuming that the PS3 will have read errors cause the PS2 had read errors is just foolish, unless of course you'd like to take it further and say that the PS3 will also share it's success, but of course, what kind of a ridiculous claim would that be?


4. Since the 4 store managers i know went to the meeting and have no system bias, they were broke down or barley working at all.

And again, defects in early hardware are normal. And what 'meeting' do you speak of. And lastly, I expect the PS3 demo stand units to over heat, as I understand it, they're still enclosed even after TGS.


5. Yeah, sure they do. because what do they like to play? regurgitated RPGs they've been play for years. Plus they favorite game developers are on board for Sony only, Except one of their heavy hitters Squar Enix. they are making 6 games, 2 for the PoS3, 2 for the Wii, and 2 for the 360. Why? Because they're afraid if they stick with Sony and Sony fails...so do they. they're branching out because A) they like money, and multiplatforming is they way to go. And B) Sticking exclusivity to a system that doesn't look to have a lasting future is suicide.

Since when was Squenix Sony only? Never, they've always branched to the other platforms, Gameboy DS/Advance, Gamecube, PC. The only time where they've maintained anything close to exclusivity would be generation 5, in which they mainly stuck to the PS1, but they still made GBC games.

If Sony fails, so do they? Lmao, even if they were exclusive to Sony, they'd simply migrate to another console. And I assume that they're making Wii games because: dev cost is cheaper, dev cycle is quicker, and because they want to try out the new control scheme. They're on the 360 because MS payed them to be on board, think they would have bothered to port FF11 without incentive? And if you think they have no faith in the PS3, why is their flagship franchise still exclusive on the PS3.

[sugarsickness]

Yes i did, and almost all the things you heard were almost all user error. the 360 had a 10-20% defective rate. which considered among most new electronics and technology is almost flawless. all new electronics and technology has a defective rate, just not as bad as sony.

Any other words you'd like to put in my mouth?

ahahahahha

oooooooooook, whatever you say. It's just so silly to hear people talk so negatively about any console before it's launched. oh, and where did you read it was all 'user error' ?

[mormonrage]

LOL @ vegasgeek opening with "playstation makes up the majority of sony's profits" and following that immediately with "I'm a smart consumer."

S-M-R-T!


Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go have sex with tarmanydyn. (I'm a sucker for logic)

[vegasgeek]

Ok first of all i got the defective rate for the PS2 and the 360 i got in GameStop E-mails (When i worked there), from statistics given to the company. all that crap about over-heating? because they treated it like a reagular Xbox or a PS2, they kept it in a closed Entertainment center or cabnet. The discs getting scratch? ohh wait, thats because they would switch the systems position while the disc was still palying (Vertical to Horizontal, or the other way around).

sure i owned a PS2..after almost 2 years had passed, then i got myself an Xbox, and a gamecube and ditched the PS2.

The meeting i speak of is once again for the people who don't bother to read all of one post The GameStop/EB Games managers meeting, where companys put up demo units, talk about their consoles, and where Managers learn new sale stradegy. No press and no regular consumers such as ourselves.

I'm not trying to spread propaganda.

Yeah sure Square has made games for the handhelds...ported SNES games...WOOOOO!!!! and some originals. and sure the new FF games is on the PS2/PS3, the crack team who brought us gems like FF VIII, IX, X, and how can i forget X-2. And sure microsoft has put up some cash to get some japanese RPGs. BUT! Sony owns major stock in Square Enix, and so SE primarily developed for Sony afterward (with one game for the Cube that was designed with a handheld connector in mind).

So sure they have stuff to fall back...dose it make as much as the consoles? not by a long shot.

[sugarsickness]

Ok first of all i got the defective rate for the PS2 and the 360 i got in GameStop E-mails (When i worked there), from statistics given to the company. all that crap about over-heating? because they treated it like a reagular Xbox or a PS2, they kept it in a closed Entertainment center or cabnet. The discs getting scratch? ohh wait, thats because they would switch the systems position while the disc was still palying (Vertical to Horizontal, or the other way around).

sure i owned a PS2..after almost 2 years had passed, then i got myself an Xbox, and a gamecube and ditched the PS2.

The meeting i speak of is once again for the people who don't bother to read all of one post The GameStop/EB Games managers meeting, where companys put up demo units, talk about their consoles, and where Managers learn new sale stradegy. No press and no regular consumers such as ourselves.

I'm not trying to spread propaganda.

Yeah sure Square has made games for the handhelds...ported SNES games...WOOOOO!!!! and some originals. and sure the new FF games is on the PS2/PS3, the crack team who brought us gems like FF VIII, IX, X, and how can i forget X-2. And sure microsoft has put up some cash to get some japanese RPGs. BUT! Sony owns major stock in Square Enix, and so SE primarily developed for Sony afterward (with one game for the Cube that was designed with a handheld connector in mind).

So sure they have stuff to fall back...dose it make as much as the consoles? not by a long shot.

EB Games. LOL. Enough said.

[does-not-equal]

And again, defects in early hardware are normal. And what 'meeting' do you speak of. And lastly, I expect the PS3 demo stand units to over heat, as I understand it, they're still enclosed even after TGS.

Gamestop/EB Games managers' conference, held annually and attended by the heavy-hitters of the North American game industry (publishers, peripheral makers, and The Big Three). Roughly 4000 managers who run the largest game-retail chain in the western world. A month and a half before the PS3 release, Sony had demo units on the floor. According to my store manager -- who attended the conference -- Sony couldn't keep the machines running for more than half the time. He's not really one for exaggeration.



Since when was Squenix Sony only? Never, they've always branched to the other platforms, Gameboy DS/Advance, Gamecube, PC. The only time where they've maintained anything close to exclusivity would be generation 5, in which they mainly stuck to the PS1, but they still made GBC games.

Sony owns a major share in Square Enix; enough to have heavy influence. Thus, it's unusual to see SE publish for anyone else. (Crystal Chronicles was designed with a handheld adapter in mind; I daresay that if the PSP had existed at the time, they might have gone with the PS2 instead.)



My opinion is that this new generation of consoles is where Sony loses a step and Nintendo regains a step, putting all three on much more even footing. Nintendo gave up the top spot years back, and Microsoft's been striving for it since their first day in the fray. I won't doomsay, but I think Sony had a golden opportunity to study and avoid Microsoft's numerous missteps in the 360 launch, and has failed to do so.

[buxomia]

My big problem is that they keep digging the hole deeper and deeper. They won't admit to their mistakes. They wouldn't with the whole square button on the psp debacle and they won't with the overheating issue with PS3. At E3, it was the booth's fault, and at digital life it was something else. Let me quote my mother when I say they have more excuses than Carter has liver pills. If they would say that they realize they're off to a rough start but are confident in their product, I just might support them more. But they're treating the consumers like we're idiots, and I don't appreciate that since we can see right through them.

[vegasgeek]

My big problem is that they keep digging the hole deeper and deeper. They won't admit to their mistakes. They wouldn't with the whole square button on the psp debacle and they won't with the overheating issue with PS3. At E3, it was the booth's fault, and at digital life it was something else. Let me quote my mother when I say they have more excuses than Carter has liver pills. If they would say that they realize they're off to a rough start but are confident in their product, I just might support them more. But they're treating the consumers like we're idiots, and I don't appreciate that since we can see right through them.

Thank you.
As far as i am concerned Sony is the middle child striving for attention. I mean come on, at last min they came up with the motion technology. and the lame excuse that followed that was a riot. "With the new motion sensers in the controller we had to get rid of the rumble feature" or how about the original creators of the rumble feature sued Sony and won. so sony can't use the tech in their controllers.

[strongoloid]

Sony won't die if the PS3 fails miserably. Even in the worst case scenario, sure they will lose lots of money, but Sony is involved in the music industry, television, cameras (the article you linked says that Sony credits digital cameras for "bringing them out of the red"), and lots of other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting.

SCEA will take a huge hit if the PS3 fails. Sony will take a hit. The company won't die. But they will definitely be pooed on just a little bit.

"Well said, but in case this was inadvertently (or blatently, whatever) directed at me as well, I defend Sony because so few will"

Yeah, I'm not saying that you shouldn't, I'm just saying you should have actual (or better yet, good) reasons. Which apparently you do. I was just agreeing with you when you said that a majority of the opponents won't care, and that it is frustrating.

[vegasgeek]

Sony won't die if the PS3 fails miserably. Even in the worst case scenario, sure they will lose lots of money, but Sony is involved in the music industry, television, cameras (the article you linked says that Sony credits digital cameras for "bringing them out of the red"), and lots of other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting.

SCEA will take a huge hit if the PS3 fails. Sony will take a hit. The company won't die. But they will definitely be pooed on just a little bit.

"Well said, but in case this was inadvertently (or blatently, whatever) directed at me as well, I defend Sony because so few will"

Yeah, I'm not saying that you shouldn't, I'm just saying you should have actual (or better yet, good) reasons. Which apparently you do. I was just agreeing with you when you said that a majority of the opponents won't care, and that it is frustrating.

When I say that sony will die, i'm talking about their gaming aspect. I don't care about the stuff they make i own things from companies I deem better. but if the PS3 fails...no more sony consoles...at least not for awhile.

[buxomia]

It's actually quite amazing to think of how Sony became a successful company in the first place. Their history is full of huge failures. Their first product was a rice cooker which either undercooked the rice or made it extremely soggy. Then there was the electric blanket which tended to burn through the clothes, and skin of customers. The transistor radio saved their sorry asses, but I still think they take way too many risks.

[jonathanlondon]

I don't think Sony will become the next Dreamcast. But we'll see. If it's good and becomes affordable I'll get it.

[satori]

I don't think Sony will become the next Dreamcast. But we'll see. If it's good and becomes affordable I'll get it.

me too... same reason I finally got a PSP.

[notdrew]

I just went to an event down here in San Francisco held by Gamespot and they had a few PS3 for the public to play. Lucky for me, i got to play Full Auto 2, some Gundam game, and Ridge Racer 7. Let me tell you now, the gameplay and Graphics are definitely something you can get from the X-Box 360. The controllers are extremely light and the L2 and R2 buttons turned into triggers. It's still comfortable as it is the same shape. I've defend Sony with this until i got to play it straight. I'm sure by a year or two developers will get use to the system and make incredible games that will just "own" anything the X-Box 360 can offer, but as of now just get a Wii and/or a 360.

Bux, who would really admit their mistakes at this stage? They're just about to release their biggest, awesomest, extreme system EVAR!!! They can't risk it. They just release the basics to mainstream, who don't really know any better. All they know that it's PS2 part Two and Madden, GTA, and Tony Hawk will be on it. Not to disrespect them, but the things that us geeks on the forums notice are definitely on a whole other level. The target audience doesn't have time to dive deep into research. Most of them are parents who know their kids wants it and some of them, like i said, don't know any better.

I don't want to act like we're better, but we know these things they don't.

[briangilmore]

god DAMN does Buxy hate the ps3. I can't wait for it to come out and her dust to settle. Kinda like when you say something totally insensitive around your girlfriend and know it will be ok once she gets over it in two hours, but before that happens you just KNOW it's going to be hell and that ONE good joke needs to go through after the silence. Man, the launch of ps3 is going to be that joke, and the love shall then follow thereafter...mmmmmm.

[satori]

I just want the damn thing to come out so I don't have to keep reading all these posts about how much an unlaunched product sucks, and how everyone has the inside track on it.

[buxomia]

I know, I know, I won't stop bashing it. But if they would stop giving me material, I'd stop providing it.

[vegasgeek]

I know, I know, I won't stop bashing it. But if they would stop giving me material, I'd stop providing it.
Once again...thank you.

I too will continue to make fun of it until i see something worth a damn. Which from the looks of it...is far away.

[tarmanydyn]

Ok, I will just say my piece on the whole thing.

No hard feelings first off, I do have to admit to being rabid in the discussion of video gaming, aggression is normal for the topic, but know that I meant nothing personal. I'm glad this didn't get (totally) out of hand, as I find that this is one of the more stable communities, hate to see it go down for something like this.

I will be getting a PS3, along with a Wii and 360, but the PS3 is the console I'm looking forward to the most at this point. I'd be lying if I didn't say I've grown partial towards the Playstation, but not necessarily Sony, so don't get it twisted. But I'm not basing my opinion of next-gen on the current/previous gens (As it's common knowledge, that the Playstation dominated the previous 2), I'm basing them on which console has the most games I'm interested in, which is the PS3, then the 360, then the Wii, take that for what you will, but I'm honestly not sold on the Wii's games, a different control scheme isn't anything that I'd get overly excited for, I need depth... you can probably blame that opinion on my penchant for PC games... But who knows, I'll probably warm up to it more, once I actually buy one, I owe you guys a coke should that happen ;).

But I believe myself to be fair and respectful... most of the time, and from a purely unbiased standpoint: PS3 will sell, Wii will sell, 360 will sell, end of discussion. Or, like Satori said, at least wait for the consoles to come out... battles are being fought before the war has even begun...

*Shakespear in love*, for the games.

[notdrew]

Ok, I will just say my piece on the whole thing.

No hard feelings first off, I do have to admit to being rabid in the discussion of video gaming, aggression is normal for the topic, but know that I meant nothing personal. I'm glad this didn't get (totally) out of hand, as I find that this is one of the more stable communities, hate to see it go down for something like this.

I will be getting a PS3, along with a Wii and 360, but the PS3 is the console I'm looking forward to the most at this point. I'd be lying if I didn't say I've grown partial towards the Playstation, but not necessarily Sony, so don't get it twisted. But I'm not basing my opinion of next-gen on the current/previous gens (As it's common knowledge, that the Playstation dominated the previous 2), I'm basing them on which console has the most games I'm interested in, which is the PS3, then the 360, then the Wii, take that for what you will, but I'm honestly not sold on the Wii's games, a different control scheme isn't anything that I'd get overly excited for, I need depth... you can probably blame that opinion on my penchant for PC games... But who knows, I'll probably warm up to it more, once I actually buy one, I owe you guys a coke should that happen ;).

But I believe myself to be fair and respectful... most of the time, and from a purely unbiased standpoint: PS3 will sell, Wii will sell, 360 will sell, end of discussion. Or, like Satori said, at least wait for the consoles to come out... battles are being fought before the war has even begun...

*Shakespear in love*, for the games.

I vow to have all three systems by the end of next year, but a Wii this year. Of course they will all sell well. They all have a stable hardcore community to live by.

[mormonrage]

I'm loving my 360, and really looking forward to the PS3. Wii will come later. I've never understood hating on a console or a company--be it Sony, EA, whomever. They all just want your money. As long as they're making something I want, they can have it.

[vegasgeek]

The Wii i am interested in. I want some Tramua Center: 2nd Opinion up in this piece!

[notdrew]

i don't think anyone here actually hates Sony, besides Buxomia. I think she secretly has a crush on them.

[tarmanydyn]

i don't think anyone here actually hates Sony, besides Buxomia. I think she secretly has a crush on them.

Oh yes, the school yard antics, of course... puppy love, how adorable :D

He loves the attention you give 'him' btw :P

[satori]

well I'm glad to see that this forum has not turned in to a mirror of the digg comments section. Bux... I'm interested to hear what you think when it's launched. I realise most people (including me) will have a lot of baggage to get around on the PS3, but I just think we should wait to get our hands on one for longer than 10 minutes. Sure that may mean renting one... or hanging with a friend who picks one up... but I think it's the best way to be sure.

[guano]

*raises hand*
I'd like to talk about what this thread was about before it became an utterly pointless argument. Thank you.

Not sure if you guys have seen the other PS3 ads but here they are.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YQhjJPohZdg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w0QxoKnU5Zg

The first one is very much like this new one with the old lady: a complete snooze fest that does nothing but misinform the uninformed. Seriously, they're acting like the PS3 invented AI in games.

The one with the kid actually sort of resembles something we might see on tv. It's similar to the 360 ads but not as good if you ask me.

In short, Sony sucks at PR.


EDIT: Another commercial, this one focusing on the cell processor, just popped up on digg. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFkH8bdKi4g

[imagineer99]

Sony's is providing such a limited number of PS3's for this holiday season, I feel as if they are gonna sell out of them regardless.

However, I still don't see a Mom--who's buying her kid a Christmas present--dropping $600 on a system where the games just ain't that impressive.

We have to realize that Sony is notorious for crappy launches. Remember the PS2? Remember how the best game was a snowboarding game? Remember how one game was a fireworks simulator? I mean, if any system should have failed because of its launch, it's the PS2.

[point5o]

PS3 is a huge investment(Xbox360 as well). You will need a really good TV, preferablely HD(which less than 10% of the US population own? I'm sure the percentage of PS2/Sony devotees is higher than that). The Wii can be fully enjoyed out the box on any TV made in the last 20 years.

The typical console lifespan(from its launch to the launch of its next generation counterpart) is 5 years. With the PS3, Sony is looking to setup shop for about 10 years. With programmers not getting even 50% of PS3's power out of it at the moment, we might not be seeing the real PS3 until 2011, when the 360 2 and Wii 2 come out. So why not just release a more affordable system now(one that is less powerful but easier to program for)?

When you're on top, you become arrogant(although Sony has always been that way) and think people will buy anything you produce no matter how ridiculous. That's why PS1 stole the market away from N64 in '95(more afforable system with 3rd party support and using CDs for the more storage vs high cost cartridges and very little 3rd party support), and in 3 weeks The Wii will likely steal the market back from Sony. Soon, Sony won't have a top dog they can brag about...already not bragging about their portable music players(top dog=Ipod), TVs(top dog=Samsung IMO), and laptop batteries( :D ).

[buxomia]

Okay well, if I didn't have to hear complaints about the PS3 every single day I might be unbiased too. From engineers, designers, programmers. My now ex at EA told me that they can't even really test the PS3 they got because it won't play without freezing every five minutes.

I have always respected Sony for taking risks, but what they're doing, knowing that it's mostly soccer moms that can afford this and know nothing about it just pisses me off. It's a big rip off and their PR are out of their minds.

We're already getting questions at work about it, and once the launch comes I can't wait to hear what people are going to come to me with. I expect anger that we only have PS2s to play, not PS3s. I don't know if I've said this already, but a few weeks ago some guy actually came up to me and was like, "I demand to see the PS3 you've got lying around. And the PS4 prototype, I want to see that too." People are off their rockers.

Everyone I work with, and I do mean everyone, all 23 of us, are militant Wii fans. With that kind of influence around me and the heated discussions we get in about how Sony pisses us off, it's no wonder that I don't talk more shit about them. But I'll try and back off. I'll say it now....I will try.

Again, if I find something that I find ridiculous, and you have to admit that ad is pretty damn ridiculous, I must supply it to my dromers. It's only because I love you all! *swoon*

[buxomia]

Soon, Sony won't have a top dog they can brag about...already not bragging about their portable music players(top dog=Ipod), TVs(top dog=Samsung IMO), and laptop batteries( :D ).

Yeah, let's not forget that Sony isn't the most intelligent. They have to be the most stubborn company in the technology industry. They won't let go of that damn memory stick, when everyone else has gone to hard drives. It's better, less expensive, and much easier to deal with. But no, memory sticks is all they will do. It's retarded, and their music players will NEVER sell as long as they continue. I asked someone why on earth they won't just switch over and one tech was like, "I don't know they just love their memory sticks"

They probably bought like, 40 million of them and have to use them so they don't look like idiots. Too late for that.

[tarmanydyn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFkH8bdKi4g

I personally liked this one, but people got their panties in a bunch about the last line :/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQhjJPohZdg

I kinda liked this one as well, but it's obviously aimed at people who know nothing about computers, and instead rely on loose analogies. This is something I simply don't understand of Sony, they keep trying to market to a demographic that isn't theirs, or ones they don't really apply to. While they certainly contained the masses last gen, this time around their numbers are exponentially lower, and they need to realize that their target market is now completely different, it now consists of mainly hardcore PS fans, techno/audio/videophiles, and maybe a few linux people, essentially... the type of people that can see right through their advertisements :/, but we were never sold on the PS3 from their ads, so...


http://youtube.com/watch?v=w0QxoKnU5Zg

I remember a lot of people hating this one as well, but I didn't think it was really bad, it's simply because, I don't think they understood what Sony's angle is with their ads, intrigue. But, as clearly shown by all the comments on digg and youtube, this generation has the attention span of a hummingbird on crack, boredom usually comes waaaay before any stint of intrigue is manifested.


Statement still standing: Sony PR sucks.

[jonathanlondon]

Ouch. Straight up.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061026/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_japan_sony

[shogun]

Well, after being on the fence for a while I've recently decided I'll be there on launch day. I listen to all the gaming podcasts and go to a bunch of game sites and now that they actually have some PS3's in there mitts they're saying the negative talk about it is mostly BS. If I get the thing and it blows then I'll take it back or sell it on eBay. I'm sure someone will take it off my hands. I've never had a problem with Sony products. My whole home theater set up is Sony which includes a PS2 I bought at launch and it's still going strong. So I have no real reason to doubt the PS3.

[jonathanlondon]

Cool. Just give Dan and I your exclusive review!!

Well, after being on the fence for a while I've recently decided I'll be there on launch day. I listen to all the gaming podcasts and go to a bunch of game sites and now that they actually have some PS3's in there mitts they're saying the negative talk about it is mostly BS. If I get the thing and it blows then I'll take it back or sell it on eBay. I'm sure someone will take it off my hands. I've never had a problem with Sony products. My whole home theater set up is Sony which includes a PS2 I bought at launch and it's still going strong. So I have no real reason to doubt the PS3.

[strongoloid]

"I don't think Sony will become the next Dreamcast. But we'll see. If it's good and becomes affordable I'll get it."

The best thing to do would probably wait until the following Christmas, hopefully by then the price will have dropped, and the launch games you would want are "Greatest Hits" and only 20 bucks.

Plus Metal Gear Solid 4 doesn't come out until late 2007 anyway.

[spazkake]

edited for the wrong thread...

[originx]

...My now ex at EA told me...


You broke up? How long was I in Carbonite?

Sorry to hear that, Buxy.
:-(

[buxomia]

Thanks buddy, yeah it was 2 weeks ago. Not fun, but I'm single now so may as well live it up!

[satori]

Thanks buddy, yeah it was 2 weeks ago.

then he didn't deserve you, enjoy! :D

[jonathanlondon]

Thanks buddy, yeah it was 2 weeks ago. Not fun, but I'm single now so may as well live it up!

That means she wants it in the butt.

Wait.

WHAT!?!

[originx]

That means she wants it in the butt.

Wait.

WHAT!?!


How come I'm the one who recognized her pain from breaking up TWO weeks ago! You guys are total douches for not feeling her!!

Buxy, how about you start a thread to coincide with Episode 46 which was also a couple weeks ago about heart break and unrequited loves.

All in Geekdrome style of course.

[originx]

When did everyone here lose their virginity...

No, wait, my question is why do I have a joine date of January 2006 and Jonathan has February 2006??

[sandstone]

I thought they had reached the peak of their insanity....but now with these new ads for the PS3, I'm convinced they've all gone completely senile.

"The Wait" was one thing, but this...

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/your-granny-will-just-love-the-ps3-209969.php

This is RETARDED!

Bux, u finally win... im sick of this shit. Im gonna wait till they drop into the 499 range.

[sandstone]

When did everyone here lose their virginity...

No, wait, my question is why do I have a joine date of January 2006 and Jonathan has February 2006??

Cuz you have slightly less of a life than even john :)

[shogun]

Cool. Just give Dan and I your exclusive review!!

LOL. I'm down but it's not guaranteed I can get one. Hopefully my work place won't be all f'n uptight about "the rules" and they stash one for me that morning.

[bigyanks]

Heres another wierd ps3 comercial
Cry Baby (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/creepy-ps3-baby-commercial-210537.php)
Plus walking to work today i say a ad on a bus stop with a chess piec cut in half bleeding? i dont got a camera phone so i could post the pic of it.

[vegasgeek]

the funniest sh*t i've seen sony do is when the white PSP came out, and the ad was a white girl beating the sh*t out of a black chick.

[djhyjak]

Sony should have just take a page from the Nintendo handbook and upgraded the PS2 just add a faster dvd drive , a fat harddrive and build up thier online service. then 2 years later hit us with the PS3. They would have it all to thier selves.

[ultralord]

I have to admit that was weird. But then again I am sure our North American ad's must seem just as weird to the Britt's. I guess it's a difference in culture. I would be interested to get the take on this ad from someone in the UK.

[comradelazyman]

I have to admit that was weird. But then again I am sure our North American ad's must seem just as weird to the Britt's. I guess it's a difference in culture. I would be interested to get the take on this ad from someone in the UK.

Well, i just think it's a play on a documentary type programme. We get loads of them here and the woman who did the commentary to this also does the commentary for wildlife documentaries and things of that nature. It was weird but i'm not exactly flabberghasted

[buxomia]

I'm just waiting to hear "Your mother sucks cocks in hell" come out of that thing

Holy shit

[buxomia]

And after watching that, it just makes my title for this thread even better.

They're out of their minds. They've gone Tom Cruise on us.

[buxomia]

Heres another wierd ps3 comercial
Cry Baby (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/creepy-ps3-baby-commercial-210537.php)
Plus walking to work today i say a ad on a bus stop with a chess piec cut in half bleeding? i dont got a camera phone so i could post the pic of it.

Yeah there's a huge billboard of it outside the Javits Center, it's weird

[buxomia]

And the posts from me just keep on comin...

http://www.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/10/new_la_ps3_billboard.jpg

[tarmanydyn]

Bux, u finally win... im sick of this shit. Im gonna wait till they drop into the 499 range.

Umm... the basic PS3 is $500


Sony should have just take a page from the Nintendo handbook and upgraded the PS2 just add a faster dvd drive , a fat harddrive and build up thier online service. then 2 years later hit us with the PS3. They would have it all to thier selves.

You were doing fine until you got to the 'in 2 years' thing, that's what we call a bad investment. Considering the power the PS3 has, even in comparison to current gen PC games, it's giving the PS3 a run for it's money. Any less would have been unacceptable if they hope to cater to the video-philes that want the 'HD experience'.

And while I'm at it, do you know why the rest of the world is so far ahead of North America in terms of technology? It's because the public is so xenophobic towards new and better technology, look at all the people spouting off about how 'they don't need HD', it's hardly ever a question of 'need', it's a question of 'want'. Japan wholly embraces every technology they come across (maybe not all, but they are the most technologically advanced nation), and because there's a fast market penetration for new technologies (huh huh, penetration...), the price for it drops. As opposed to the west, where everyones a tight ass about HD and other great technologies, so the price always stays high.

It's this exact same reason why the whole country is still on copper, instead of fiber optics... in short... I hate you all D:

Of course, this is just an opinion, feel free to correct me.


P.S. I liked that Chess Piece ad :/

[buxomia]

How can you like something that doesn't make sense?

[satori]

How can you like something that doesn't make sense?

This is chess, this is how chess would be on a ps3. what's not making sense?

[djhyjak]

Umm... the basic PS3 is $500

And while I'm at it, do you know why the rest of the world is so far ahead of North America in terms of technology? It's because the public is so xenophobic towards new and better technology, look at all the people spouting off about how 'they don't need HD', it's hardly ever a question of 'need', it's a question of 'want'. Japan wholly embraces every technology they come across (maybe not all, but they are the most technologically advanced nation), and because there's a fast market penetration for new technologies (huh huh, penetration...), the price for it drops. As opposed to the west, where everyones a tight ass about HD and other great technologies, so the price always stays high.

It's this exact same reason why the whole country is still on copper, instead of fiber optics... in short... I hate you all D:
:/

I have to disagree with ya, the reason we are so behind in this country is because of a combination of FCC standards, The Movie and Music industry cluelessness, not to mention greed. The phone and cable companies want to give us faster internet but at the same time they want to charge us an insane amount for access and that keeps people from upgrading.
Now for the myth that is HD, i work with a lot of video and i have shoot in HD and i have seen the difference between SD and HD. While much better then SD, HD is just not worth taking out a loan so you can have a cool tv to play video games on. Thats what it comes down to the cost if people could afford HD they would buy it. HD is the last thing i think about when it comes to what system i'm gonna buy. Why because i know i can afford one and i don't see myself being able to afford one in the next 2 years.

Don't get me started on technology i don't know much but i definitely have an opinion on it.

[comradelazyman]

It's showing how the ps3 owns the king in chess the highest value piece. Out with the old in with the new. That or the ps3 is a sentient being.

Play Beyond!

[satori]

I think it shows that no matter how you slice it, it comes up sausage

[j3ff5a]

What happened to gigantic hype-machine ads like we had last generation, or even this generation with the x360, which had some pretty cool ads... Anyone rmember the banned-in-the-US pantomime gunfight one? regardless of whether it was original, THATS how you get a point across. Action and Humor. Not 4 minute art films trying to sell the PS3 as being a new lifestyle.

Hey sony! New ad for ps3: The mgs4 trailer. Or the Resistance Trailer. Hell, even use the eyedentify trailer, I don't give a shit, jsut show people what the PS3 actually DOES instead of making metaphors about boxing and grandmothers and 13 year old kids who are going to sell thier kidneys to afford your system at a price of 599USDOLLARS waiting on a rooftop for what looks like a big shadow spaceship or some stupid crap.

Geez.

[briangilmore]

And the posts from me just keep on comin...

http://www.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/10/new_la_ps3_billboard.jpg


alright, titties, say what you will about the system, but that is one SICK muther effing billboard. not if you're anti ps3, but from an objective perspective, c'mon. that's sick. the coloring and font design and everything is just so sleek and sexy. mmmmm. maybe i'll get a ps3. just kidding, just kidding *waits for the attack*

[djhyjak]

alright, titties, say what you will about the system, but that is one SICK muther effing billboard. not if you're anti ps3, but from an objective perspective, c'mon. that's sick. the coloring and font design and everything is just so sleek and sexy. mmmmm. maybe i'll get a ps3. just kidding, just kidding *waits for the attack*

I think the ad is pretty weak, even tho it was borderline racist the psp billboards had more punch. this could be passed by easy. They should push this as a premium gaming system like a luxury car.

[tarmanydyn]

How can you like something that doesn't make sense?

I'll try to explain it as best I can, how I see the ad

- Chess, a simple game of war
- Video games, digital versions of primitive games
- Realism is one of goals in furthering technology in gaming
- Next generation of consoles (Or... just the PS3) adds more elements of realism/life
- Life = blood
- Chess piece + blood = A game with life injected in it? Just think of the tag line "Play Beyond", and it should make sense...
- Aaaand, the PS3 kills the King... cause that's how he rolls...

*Shrugs* I just saw the king, the blood, the tag line, and it just clicked.

[diela]

I'll try to explain it as best I can, how I see the ad

- Chess, a simple game of war
- Video games, digital versions of primitive games
- Realism is one of goals in furthering technology in gaming
- Next generation of consoles (Or... just the PS3) adds more elements of realism/life
- Life = blood
- Chess piece + blood = A game with life injected in it? Just think of the tag line "Play Beyond", and it should make sense...
- Aaaand, the PS3 kills the King... cause that's how he rolls...

*Shrugs* I just saw the king, the blood, the tag line, and it just clicked.

I was thinking, more simply, that the PS3 will slaughter the old way of playing games. And that they killed the king, there's a new King in town.

And I'm sorry, but I can't in any way call that ad "sleek" or "sexy" with all that urban crap criss-crossing in front of the billboard.

[tarmanydyn]

I have to disagree with ya, the reason we are so behind in this country is because of a combination of FCC standards, The Movie and Music industry cluelessness, not to mention greed. The phone and cable companies want to give us faster internet but at the same time they want to charge us an insane amount for access and that keeps people from upgrading.
Now for the myth that is HD, i work with a lot of video and i have shoot in HD and i have seen the difference between SD and HD. While much better then SD, HD is just not worth taking out a loan so you can have a cool tv to play video games on. Thats what it comes down to the cost if people could afford HD they would buy it. HD is the last thing i think about when it comes to what system i'm gonna buy. Why because i know i can afford one and i don't see myself being able to afford one in the next 2 years.

Don't get me started on technology i don't know much but i definitely have an opinion on it.

Well, it's just my point of view as a consumer. I'd pay for Fiber, but it's not available. I already have an HD capable TV... err... but I want a bigger one. We're different consumers, I personally have technology and the like as a high priority...

[tarmanydyn]

I was thinking, more simply, that the PS3 will slaughter the old way of playing games. And that they killed the king, there's a new King in town.

And I'm sorry, but I can't in any way call that ad "sleek" or "sexy" with all that urban crap criss-crossing in front of the billboard.

Actually... that's a much better way of explaining it D:... well, except for killing the king, since the PS2 was the king... so in a sense, they'd be killing themselves... and that would be counter-productive dontchaknow

OR

The PS3 is going to dominate the current gen more so than the current king?...

Or something...

[diela]

The PS3 is going to dominate the current gen more so than the current king?...

That's about where I was going with it

[tarmanydyn]

Along with the Cell commercial posted previously ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq0bhrHhqN4 ), here's the only other PS3 I really liked, although it's for people not in tech, since for the most part they're just giving you a marketing shtick, but it's a good commercial regardless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgU3S9XrmMk

[optifish]

I thought they had reached the peak of their insanity....but now with these new ads for the PS3, I'm convinced they've all gone completely senile.

"The Wait" was one thing, but this...

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/your-granny-will-just-love-the-ps3-209969.php

This is RETARDED!

OMG, I almost fell asleep during that commercial. Sony's outta their f*cking mind -:confused:

[billpickle1]

why do people hate sony and the ps3 so much? was it like this when the ps2 launched?

[satori]

why do people hate sony and the ps3 so much? was it like this when the ps2 launched?

It's like how people write M$ when referring to Microsoft. It seems to be the thing to do to pick on large companies. I liken it to how a large portion of the world hates America. It's a percieved idea that the big guy on the block needs to be taken down a peg. It's irrational, and unnecessary... surely there are better things to spend your time doing.

[satansmagichat]

Every time you respond to this thread, God kills a kitten. Fortunately, this post just killed Garfield, so we're all better off.

[buxomia]

Okya, it may be some trend to make fun of big corporations. But with Sony right now....you guys, seriously. If Sony was a new company they would NEVER take off after all these shenanigans.

The biggest fanboys in the world are in Japan and this quarter Sony's profits have dropped 94% there. What does that tell you?

[satori]

Every time you respond to this thread, God kills a kitten. Fortunately, this post just killed Garfield, so we're all better off.


The biggest fanboys in the world are in Japan and this quarter Sony's profits have dropped 94% there. What does that tell you?

that Sony's profits are directly tied to kitten futures.

[mormonrage]

The biggest fanboys in the world are in Japan and this quarter Sony's profits have dropped 94% there. What does that tell you?
It tells me that having to recall a kajillion laptop batteries can severely **** up your bottom line.

[burgerbob23]

I think Sony is going to do Strong, I mean if you look at the PS2 when it came it out with crappy games at first but during the first & Second year they got some really good games, and people are thinking sony will suck at the PS3 but i'm still going to buy one because Sony's games i think will be better in the future but they better get their act together on online play

[billpickle1]

It tells me that having to recall a kajillion laptop batteries can severely **** up your bottom line.

plus, launching a new console is expensive and to add even more it has 2 new technoligies, the cell processor and blu ray.

[teethman]

Sony as a company is a big jackass

[buxomia]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/30/japan-to-get-fewer-ps3-launch-units-due-to-part-problems/

Just being the messenger, yet again

[mormonrage]

Sucks to live in Japan.

[guano]

Serves Japan right for their brand loyalty.

[paulsaves]

Serves Japan right for their brand loyalty.

Yeah, we should just drop a bomb on them..... Oh.. shit...

[tarmanydyn]

Sorry to bring back an old topic but I didn't think it very necessary to create a whole new thread.

Just the new PS3 commercial, and I thought it was pretty damn cool, looks like they learned a thing or two from their Bravia/Clown commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qamwVJaYW8

[buxomia]

Sorry to bring back an old topic but I didn't think it very necessary to create a whole new thread.

Just the new PS3 commercial, and I thought it was pretty damn cool, looks like they learned a thing or two from their Bravia/Clown commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qamwVJaYW8

The last line of the first rubix cube commercial is causing quite a stir. People take offense to it.

[tarmanydyn]

The last line of the first rubix cube commercial is causing quite a stir. People take offense to it.

Yes, I'm well aware of that, so just to reiterate my comment on digg about that.

"While the cell may not be more intelligent than any human being, it doesn't have the problem of having an ego/pride that's easily damaged...

Grow up people."

EDIT: Wait... are you referring to the commercial about the Cell? I remember there being a rubix cube in it, but the commercial itself concentrated on 'why the Cell is important' or something along those lines.

[buxomia]

Yes, I'm well aware of that, so just to reiterate my comment on digg about that.

"While the cell may not be more intelligent than any human being, it doesn't have the problem of having an ego/pride that's easily damaged...

Grow up people."

EDIT: Wait... are you referring to the commercial about the Cell? I remember there being a rubix cube in it, but the commercial itself concentrated on 'why the Cell is important' or something along those lines.

I was talking about the one where it claims it's smarter than you. I think it's a bold statement but I don't understand why people would get their panties in a twist about it

[tarmanydyn]

I was talking about the one where it claims it's smarter than you. I think it's a bold statement but I don't understand why people would get their panties in a twist about it

Yeah I know what you mean, people take things too personally sometimes :/

[mormonrage]

I think if you get upset about that statement, you prove its veracity.

[satori]

I think if you get upset about that statement, you prove its veracity.

I resent that good sir, and I call you out on the field of honor! ;)

[satori]

turns out there's an update on the PS3: http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/04/ea-predicts-sony-will-miss-ps3-year-end-shipment-numbers/
So I'm going to rely on Dannyt getting the inside track from his various sources

edit: oh yeah, I pulled this link from digg, not my sleuthing. Thanks Digg!

[psbp516]

I was talking about the one where it claims it's smarter than you. I think it's a bold statement but I don't understand why people would get their panties in a twist about it

I don't think the smarter than you thing is bad, but sony has some really stupid ps3 ads. Who the hell is doing the ads for sony?

[mattdrome]

do not fear what you do not know

[blacksymbiote]

I really liked the creepy baby ad... although it made no sense, I was still killing myself with laughter and sheer terror. I also didn't mind the boxing ad, and the ads where the dude explains the cell processor and the blu-ray discs with his lie filled descriptions were at least somewhat entertaining. Generally Sony seems kinda out of touch, but I'm sure it won't slow them down for long.

[atomusk]

im not gonna get one (cause im a poor kinda guy) but i wouldnt mind playing with one