Investigate 9-11!

[Gears_Pwns]

has any one here heard of the movie loose change?

Edit: Please don't leave hater mail on how 9-11 was NOT an inside job. I hear it enough.

[comhcinc]

yes. it is 100% bull.

[Gears_Pwns]

have u watched it???

[comhcinc]

i've watched enough

[Gears_Pwns]

do u think it was an inside job???

[comhcinc]

no. only a person who is completely insane would believe some like that.

[Gears_Pwns]

that hurts man.
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[comhcinc]

sometimes the truth hurts. before you continue to believe that stupid movies do a little research (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/)

[blazes816]

But it's true. Loose Change is a horrible movie. It's full of the faultiest logic imaginable.

[phatlip12]

has any one here heard of the movie loose change?

Edit: Please don't leave hater mail on how 9-11 was NOT an inside job. I hear it enough.

If you think it was an inside job do you care stating WHY you think that?

As far as the movie concerns, I've never even heard of it. I'm guessing it's some sort of conspiracy theorist babble. I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job though I believe the Bush administration ultimately used it for their own intentions.

[Gears_Pwns]

Before 9-11, Bushes approval rating was crap. right after this all happened, the rating was though the roof!

[Ryudo]

loose change is the biggest pile of shit ever put together and everyone and their dog has seen it by now and if you have not seen it yet let me save you from the most pointless hour or two to sum it up in one picture.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8585/itsaconspiracyeg7.jpg

[rabidbadger]

yeah, they (neo-cons) didn't create it, but they used the hell out of it.

[Gears_Pwns]

i said PLEASE NO HATER MAIL!!!

[phatlip12]

Before 9-11, Bushes approval rating was crap. right after this all happened, the rating was though the roof!

Um...ok?

stupid 10 character rule

[comhcinc]

Before 9-11, Bushes approval rating was crap. right after this all happened, the rating was though the roof!

so bush killed over 3000 thousands people and put the economy in dumps for approval ratings? why?

[Ryudo]

i said PLEASE NO HATER MAIL!!!
#1 this is not e mail
#2 people will express whatever they wish this is a message board.
#3 Hyer Ejukashun

[Gears_Pwns]

Also, on the three days before 9-11, the were 11 times more put options on American Airlines than on a normal day.

[Gears_Pwns]

#1 this is not e mail
#2 people will express whatever they wish this is a message board.
#3 Hyer Ejukashun

what is Hyer Ejukashun?

[comhcinc]

Also, on the three days before 9-11, the were 11 times more put options on American Airlines than on a normal day.
.....................what?

[Ryudo]

what is Hyer Ejukashun?
Something you lack.

[Gears_Pwns]

.....................what?

a put option is the opposite of buying stock.
it is like putting money on saying that it is gonna fail.

[comhcinc]

a put option is the opposite of buying stock.
it is like putting money on saying that it is gonna fail.
okay so you are reading. why don't you answer my first question?

[blazes816]

Also, on the three days before 9-11, the were 11 times more put options on American Airlines than on a normal day.

Really? Are you sure? (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/06/sell-sell-sell.html)

[Gears_Pwns]

If you think it was an inside job do you care stating WHY you think that?

As far as the movie concerns, I've never even heard of it. I'm guessing it's some sort of conspiracy theorist babble. I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job though I believe the Bush administration ultimately used it for their own intentions.

Actually, 9-11 doesn't say "IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!".
It just states the facts and tells you that you can believe w/e you want.

[comhcinc]

Actually, 9-11 doesn't say "IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!".
It just states the facts and tells you that you can believe w/e you want.

no it doesn't. it presents lies as facts and points to a conspiracy.

[phatlip12]

Actually, 9-11 doesn't say "IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!".
It just states the facts and tells you that you can believe w/e you want.

All because it doesn't say it's a conspiracy doesn't mean it isn't. Can you possibly post a list of reasons why you think it was an inside job instead of spreading them out throughout multiple posts? I think that would lead to some interesting discussion...

[Gears_Pwns]

so bush killed over 3000 thousands people and put the economy in dumps for approval ratings? why?

It wasn't just for that.
the owner of the building put a 3 Billion dollar insurance policy on it clearly covering terrorist attacks. The buildings were also full of a harmful chemical that would have taken a million dollars to clean up.

[Gears_Pwns]

All because it doesn't say it's a conspiracy doesn't mean it isn't. Can you possibly post a list of reasons why you think it was an inside job instead of spreading them out throughout multiple posts? I think that would lead to some interesting discussion...

just spend a few bucks and buy Loose Change: Final Cut.

[Ryudo]

How old are you?

[Gears_Pwns]

How old are you?

..........why???

[phatlip12]

just spend a few bucks and buy Loose Change: Final Cut.

You believe in this so much yet you can't even tell me why you believe in it? How old are you? Do you even live in the United States?

[Ryudo]

Because if you're 13 and under it will explain everything.

If older than that then I send my condolences.

[comhcinc]

It wasn't just for that.
the owner of the building put a 3 Billion dollar insurance policy on it clearly covering terrorist attacks. The buildings were also full of a harmful chemical that would have taken a million dollars to clean up.

first off. you didn't answer my question. you claim that one of the reasons for the atatcks was because bush had low numbers, so you need to tell why you think having high poll numbers was a good enough reason to kill 3000 thousand people and flush the economy.

secondly, i have a insurance policy on my house that also clearly covers terrorist attack. it's pretty standard. and it wasn't the owner, it was the the guy renting the building, and he was forced to buy the policy to rent the buildings, and he didn't make any money.


as for the chemicals, what is the point of that?

[Ryudo]

Wow I never heard of people buying that POS film esp when it was released for free on google video and Youtube.

[comhcinc]

just spend a few bucks and buy Loose Change: Final Cut.

why? just do a google video search. it's online.

[Heyseuss]

Feels like I'm watching member of the special olympics take a serious fight in pro-wrestling.

[williethakid]

Loose change is a horribly put together film with very faulty logic underlying most of it's key points. There are some interesting ideas behind the engineering of the twin towers and something fishy definitely happened with building 7, but the circular logic in the film ruins any redemptive value it might have as investigative journalism. I believe that we don't know what happened on 9/11 and we may never know, but the official story is bollox.

[tokenuser]

Feels like I'm watching member of the special olympics take a serious fight in pro-wrestling.Stop hogging the pop corn.

I am waiting on our resident neo-con to chime in as well. I suspect that even he will call Loose Change a pile of crap.

[Ryudo]

Feels like I'm watching member of the special olympics take a serious fight in pro-wrestling.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5445/hhhumc9.jpg

[Heyseuss]

Stop hogging the pop corn.

I am waiting on our resident neo-con to chime in as well. I suspect that even he will call Loose Change a pile of crap.

phxfan or his wife crumbles ? either way, the popcorn is sour.

[tokenuser]

phxfan or his wife crumbles ? either way, the popcorn is sour.NO worries. Just found a bag of gummi bears - the good ones, not the crappy dollar store ones.

[Gears_Pwns]

all i am saying is that it is POSSIBLE that 9-11 could have been an inside job!

[phatlip12]

all i am saying is that it is POSSIBLE that 9-11 could have been an inside job!

HOW?
stupid 10 character rule

[xibalba]

Nope..not possible

[kowgod]

Everyone knows Sour Patch Kids are better than gummi bears, and they're SUPPOSED to be sour.

[tokenuser]

all i am saying is that it is POSSIBLE that 9-11 could have been an inside job!Sure its possible.

Its also possible that the present King of France is bald.

1. there is an x such that x is the King of France (∃x(Fx))
2. for every x that is the King of France and every y that is the King of France, x equals y (i.e. there is at most one King of France) (∀x(Fx → ∀y(Fy → y=x)))
3. x is bald. (∀x(Fx → Bx))

Since assertion 1 is plainly false, and our statement is the conjunction of all three assertions, our statement is false.

An argument based on a false premise, no matter how valid the proof, will result in a false statement. Thankyou Bertrand Russel, and my predicate calculus class at Uni.

Loose Change is based upon a number of false premises. The arguments presented are really good, and easy to follow along with, and ultimately lead you to believe that the proof is valid, but due to the flawed premises that the arguments are based upon, whether the proof is convincing or nnot is a moot point.

[Gears_Pwns]

i think this discussion is over...
BTW: I'm 13 Ryudo

[Ryudo]

I rest my case.
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GUILTY!
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[bb4034]

Here is the best possible rebuttal to Loose Change: rebuttal (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons).
Even funnier was the April Fools page. (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07)

...[I] Just found a bag of gummi bears...
MMMM, Please share, thanks.

[acidburn]

sometimes the truth hurts. before you continue to believe that stupid movies do a little research (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/)

How is reading someone else's blog on the subject doing research? Much of the facts presented on "Screw Loose Change" are backed up the same way "Loose Change" is.

[crumbles]

Damn, here I was thinking that the left thought the war was for oil. Glad to see so many of you defend the actual cause in here.

[comhcinc]

How is reading someone else's blog on the subject doing research?
that's like asking "how is reading someone else's book on the subject doing research".the guys who run that blog have took the time review the statements in that movie,then take the time to find different sources to refute the statements made in the movie. it's well thought out ,concise, and free to view right on the webz.
Much of the facts presented on "Screw Loose Change" are backed up the same way "Loose Change" is.

not true. if you take the time to look you will see that every 'fact' they write on their site has a source that they link to. if you want to take the time you can followup on every statement they make. you can't do that with this movie

[phxfan]

phxfan or his wife crumbles ? either way, the popcorn is sour.

wtf? My wife crumbles? Maybe you should do a little research on what a neo-con is, I am not a neo-conservative.

Now get off my jock.

[acidburn]

that's like asking "how is reading someone else's book on the subject doing research".the guys who run that blog have took the time review the statements in that movie,then take the time to find different sources to refute the statements made in the movie. it's well thought out ,concise, and free to view right on the webz.


not true. if you take the time to look you will see that every 'fact' they write on their site has a source that they link to. if you want to take the time you can followup on every statement they make. you can't do that with this movie

I have taken some time and clicked though the various sites. Take the Debunking 9/11 Myths Popular Mechanics site there are plenty of unsubstantiated quotes in there. Why should I give these guys more weight than anyone else?

I'm just reading the sites an noting what I see.

And for the record I don't think 9/11 was some vast government conspiracy. Among other things, I just don't think a cover-up of that scale would be possible. I do have some questions surrounding what happened at the Pentagon, but the rest of the events for the most part are just too far fetched for me.

[phxfan]

has any one here heard of the movie loose change?

Edit: Please don't leave hater mail on how 9-11 was NOT an inside job. I hear it enough.

Yes, I've seen it. I've also seen the rebuttal video. I've also seen countless threads on different forums debating this. I've also come to the realization that you cannot argue with someone that lacks rational and common sense.

[comhcinc]

Why should I give these guys more weight than anyone else?
motive. what reasons do this guys have to spend all the time required to fabicate information (unless of course they are part of the giant jewish/islamic/bush conspiracy ;) )
I do have some questions surrounding what happened at the Pentagon,

ask away. my friend's aunt works at the pentagon and witnessed the event.

[AutoDas]

um why did you guys even bother arguing with a 13 year old for 6 pages on Loose Change? lawl

[Balzout]

Why is anyone even taking this seriously? I think it is pretty clear that the poster is under 14 years old...(Sorry if this has been said. I stopped reading after the first page)

[tokenuser]

um why did you guys even bother arguing with a 13 year old for 6 pages on Loose Change? lawlIt took 48 posts to find out that little tid bit.

[comhcinc]

okay so lets not listen to anyone who is under the age of 25.

[xibalba]

Isn't illegal to let anyone 13 and under on a forum without a parents written consent?