Poll: Yay or Nay to Digg Reel

[ariastar]

Simply a poll. Discussion going on in another thread.

[tokenuser]

Nothing constructive going to come out of this poll.
I am going to lock it.

Give the Digg Reel a few weeks to get itself sorted out, and then come back with the poll.

[marc57]

Sorry but, Nay

[spiri]

Well, I'm not going to judge the show after just one episode. I'll give it a couple more eps and then I'll see what i think.

[chrisnaz]

I was a little misled by the title and just now got around to checking out the show, i liked it. The user comments of the some of the vids is nice and the host is cute, i agree that a few more tweaks with the format and good to go.

[godmode]

Nay.
I didnt find Jessica paticularly interesting or funny. The vibe i got from this is like one of those network TV shows trying to be hip and appeal to internet culture. Keep it all in Diggnation, thanks.

[ariastar]

I should have clarified that this is an opinion of the first episode. As we an easily see, as of this post, 7 voters so far like it just how it is, 22 think it has potential, and 13 said the just don't care for it. An easy way to tell at a glance is people like how it's going so far or if they think changes should be made.

[compismyrx]

I didn't really enjoy this episode for a couple reasons. One, I don't need to be read the comments. Just give a link to them or something. Two, no need for so much expository for each video. Let it be the clipshow it's supposed to be. Finally, get a comedy writer if you want decent jokes.

[ryudo]

Sorry but Nay.
It's just like VH1 webjunk and a G4ish feel.
Jessica was great on Indigital as a gadget reviewer and way back in the day great with daily tech news and feel that is where she should be not on stuff like this.

Hopefully her other project will be more suited to her real talents and tech related as I noticed on the front website page culture stuff has far more shows than Tech so I hope we get more Tech shows in the future.

[crumbles]

Nothing constructive going to come out of this poll.
I am going to lock it.So, uh... did you... when you went... um... the, uh... meh. never mind.

[smes]

With gator as co-host a definate yay.

[tokenuser]

So, uh... did you... when you went... um... the, uh... meh. never mind.Actually, yes, I did. And then it was magically unlocked, with no history of me locking it. This was while servers were being moved around for the new site laumch, and since comments had been left already I didn't re-lock it.

Still a thread thats going nowhere. Everything said in here is a rehash of what has been left as general feedback, and dimismissing a show on its first episode - for content that you might actually like - is pretty damn shallow.

[crumbles]

Still a thread thats going nowhere. Everything said in here is a rehash of what has been left as general feedback, and dimismissing a show on its first episode - for content that you might actually like - is pretty damn shallow.Woa there cowboy. I assume that was just a generalization and not directed right at me...

I gave Tekzilla quite a while before I dismissed it. I'll do the same with this show as well.

[tokenuser]

Woa there cowboy. I assume that was just a generalization and not directed right at me...No ... not aimed at you :)

[zero1281]

I think the show is kinda of a flop. With Diggnation being as popular as it is, Diggreel would need a host that I think would add the flavor of show. I say if we are gonna make an America's funniest videos for Revision 3, maybe we should have a person that has some experience in this field. Anyone for Diane Mizota? What has she been up to other than Dexter anyways?

[darknessgp]

Actually, yes, I did. And then it was magically unlocked, with no history of me locking it. This was while servers were being moved around for the new site laumch, and since comments had been left already I didn't re-lock it.

Still a thread thats going nowhere. Everything said in here is a rehash of what has been left as general feedback, and dimismissing a show on its first episode - for content that you might actually like - is pretty damn shallow.

1. Is most of what gets posted on the forums constructive? Hardly. Is this a rehash? No, I don't see any other polls. This thread is providing numbers, it does not seem to be a place to actually discuss the show itself.

2. So, according to you no one should judge a show by the first episode? People do it ALL the time. Hell, current TV is based on a show making a pilot, and seeing if any studio likes it enough to pick it up. Yes, we understand that Rev3 might change the show, but is it that hard to believe that we think they've thought about the show more than 5 minutes. I can understand settling in, but to simply say we can't judge it is wrong. Rev3 put time and effort into making the show, they presented it and got a response. Under your logic, there shouldn't have been a response, because we should dismiss the first few episodes and claim them as "settling in" episodes. i.e. You're asking us to ignore obvious faults, which may not change unless they are brought to Rev3 attention.

[ariastar]

Token, this provides numbers in an easy-to-see way without having to go through and try to count.

Also, people judge on one show. Some dislike it enough to not try again, some will give it another shot, and others love it. If this weren't a Rev3 cast, I personally wouldn't watch it again, but I know what they're capable of, so will. If a show on TV bores the hell out of you, will you watch again just to see if it was a bad episode? As said, networks pick up a show on a single episode, so one can make or break a series at the start. Happens all the time. this show is in the interview process, so to speak, and needs to sell itself to us. What we can see by the numbers is that it's failing to do so a good chunk of the time, but more than half are willing to try again.

[om3rta]

Jessica is my least favorite host for any show on revision3. I think maybe... MAYBE i would watch if it were someone else hosting. I'm very glad that she's gone from TekZilla, but i didn't come here to bash on the poor girl.

[murphy1d]

Jessica is my least favorite host for any show on revision3. I think maybe... MAYBE i would watch if it were someone else hosting. I'm very glad that she's gone from TekZilla, but i didn't come here to bash on the poor girl.

I love the honesty in the forums, as getting real feedback is what any show needs. But, I do feel bad for those receiving the feedback. Sarah, Jessica, Rodger all seem to get hit hard recently. I didn't want Jessica to leave Tekzilla, as she was a nice balance to Patrick. But now there may be an opportunity for a different vibe. Remember, give three positives for every negative.

[bayareaking510]

I want Jessica BACK on Tekzilla! Digg Reel is alright, but it's like a lame version of Diggnation; plus, Tekzilla is less enjoyable without that pretty face of hers! :)

[reoze]

She tries way too hard. The jokes aren't funny, I told myself I wouldn't watch after the first episode, tried the second just to give it a chance, and could only watch about half of it.

I think the key problem lies in the fact that, this entire show could be condensed into a forum post. "Top digg movies of the week". It doesn't really bring anything to the table like diggnation does.

While the idea of showing the top digg movies in one spot may sound appealing, but when you only show a maximum of 60 seconds of each clip, what's the point? It's almost like watching a 16 minute long commercial advertising youtube.

[murphy1d]

Jessica is at her best when she reviews products like cell phones and media players. She would bring you the details and then throw in one or two puns. If all she is bringing is the puns it makes her look weak (which she isn't).

Wow, this is about to sound REALLY sexist, but its true... give her a credit card and let her go shopping. Then come tell us about it like she did on Indigital.

[eponymous_bosch]

Personally, I'm just not into the whole viral video format. I love jessica though and would honestly like to see her back on Tekzilla as a co-host or doing product review segments. imo, she's a great balance for Patrick as a co-host.

[jax1492]

I think it was a good idea, but really do we need another internet show about internet clips, how much more time do "idots" need to get for doing stupid tricks and such ... sorry its just not the same as diggnation, kevin and alex make digg stories more than just stories, thats why that show works so so well.

edit: Reading more comments i agree Jessica is a good host, just a bad vehicle for her talents.

[crazyeagle]

As a long time fan of tech tv and a major fan of jessica, I for one am glad to see her again going as strong and more beautiful....(dare i say sexy) as ever i have missed jessica since the ole tech tv days and am looking foward to seeing more of her... Jessica , im still availabe and waiting to hear from ya.... keep up the good work////.....crazyeagle!!!

[wolvenspectre]

I like Jessica, but this show if it is to make it needs MAJOR REDESIGN NOW!

The theme is bland and unexiting. It doesn't get you reved up for the show.

The intro graphic is the blandest one on Rev3 and you would do better editing bits of famous clips and Rev3 shows with Jessic on set from multiple angles in diffrent outfits.

The video clips are edited to the point where you ruin them for someone to go watch the whole clip but not enough of the clip to fully appreciate it or 'get it'.

To me over half of the chosen comments are meh.

Jessica used to present cell phones with more gusto than she does on these clips.

Revision3 is capable of SO MUCH more.

[ryudo]

So I gave this a second shot and I have no issues with Jessica I always liked her on screen...but the show is still a copy of webjunk and those shows are lame to me I just can't get into it ..it feels less like a show but more of a filler for a longer show.

I doubt I will ever be a regular viewer.

[motionblur]

I think if you watch the top dugg videos on Digg *and* read the comments, then this show probably isn't for you. However, my g/f (who doesn't visit the video section on Digg) thought the show was great.

The best bet is to give them about 5-10 episodes to get into a groove and then make a judgement. Take "Ask a Ninja" as the case in point. If you based your viewership on the quality of Ask a Ninja's first few episodes, you would have never watched again. It took them about 15 episodes to get to the trademark editing and style they have now.

As for Jessica, I could watch her chew gum and enjoy it. ;) Seriously though, I think she plays really well off the "true geek" types, like on Tekzilla or even back when she was on The Screen Savers (RIP).

[mikec]

Watched part of an episode, stopped watching, deleted the file. I say drop this show into the trash and use the resources somewhere else.

[thehumaneclipse]

[/QUOTE]
Still a thread thats going nowhere. Everything said in here is a rehash of what has been left as general feedback, and dimismissing a show on its first episode - for content that you might actually like - is pretty damn shallow.[/QUOTE]

Six things.

First. So we're "pretty damn shallow" huh? I thought the Revision3 forums had rules about bashing other people?

Oh wait, you’re a moderator, so you probably work for R3 then right? Well, I guess that means you’re above your own set of rules and its okay for you to bash us, but we’re not allowed to do that to you guys, huh. Well excuse the F*** out of me.

Everyone judges everything. Want me to prove it? Your judging us by calling us “shallow” and you seem to be okay with that, but when we bash R3 and it’s people, we’re told to grow up and stop acting like children and act like the adults we’re supposed to be. Simply put, if you don’t want us bashing you guys, then you guys can’t bash us, asshole. Something to think about.

Second. I admit people are judging this show to harshly for just a couple of episodes, but you have to understand that everyone at R3 is telling us to email them and put our thoughts on the forums. Now that we’re doing just that, we’re told that we’re all “pretty damn shallow.” Well personally I think that you’re “pretty damn ignorant.” If you don’t want our opinions then don’t f***ing ask for them.

Third. We’re not totally stupid. We know that Digg Reel is something you guys have been planning for a while now. You didn’t just wake up one day and say, “Hey, let’s create a show called Digg Reel with Jessica Corbin standing in front of a green screen and talk about videos from Digg.com and then read viewers posts about the videos.” I just can’t believe that was the best you could come up with. Come on people. You have to have more creative people than that at Revision3.

Fourth. I’m okay with Jessica hosting the show. I like her. She has a nice personality. It’s the show itself that’s not doing her justice. She just stands there and comments on the clips from Digg and then reads peoples comments about them. It’s just not a good concept for a show and I can’t believe you ever thought it was.

Fifth. You need to stop watching Attack of the Show on G4. “Around the net,” sound familiar? It should, it’s where you obviously came up with the idea for Digg Reel. Is there really a difference?

Sixth. My personal opinions to make the show better are as follows; discuss the various videos from the Digg site, that’s fine, but leave out the opinions from the forum posters. We can always go read those on the site. Showing a 60 second clip (or whatever) of each video is annoying. Just show the whole clip. Showing a portion of the clip doesn’t make me want to go watch the clip anywhere else because I’ve already seen a part of it and you’ve destroyed my interested in going to watch the whole thing. Show the whole clip. Yeah, I know, you want people to go to Digg.com and watch the whole clip, but again, you’ve already shown me enough to get the idea of the clip and thus have destroyed my interest in going to watch the full clip. If Digg Reel is going to be a videos around the net clip show then show the whole video. By seeing the whole video it might make me want to go to Digg and see what other videos they have. That’s how you would spark my interest in going to Digg.com, but that’s just me.

Seven. I was going to stop with Six, but I came up with something else. You could combine Diggnation and Digg Reel. Alex and Kevin could talk about the latest Digg stories and then Jessica could host a quick video segment, maybe two or three video clips, that’s right, I said “clips.” I mean really, is there even a need for a Digg Reel show?

[indiegirl]

@TheHumanEclipse: I completely agree. That was damn well said!

I'm not a fan of the show. But I'm willing to give it a few more tries until I really get tired of it.

Just a thought, how about taking the production money of making Digg Reel and using it to make another thebroken episode? I know a lot of people would love to see that show back on Rev3, myself included.

[hadiz]

TheHumanEclipse: Well put. This "show" could just as easily be done in under 3 minutes, or by simply putting up a list somewhere. Hell you could already do that, just pull the top 5 videos from the RSS aggregator. I have no qualms with Jessica; she is good at what she does, but this show is just lame and redundant.

I'll see what the next couple of episodes are like to be fair, but I don't expect any drastic changes and thus don't plan on watching beyond that.

[marc57]

Sorry, I watched the second show and it's still Nay.

[mikec]

One thing that everyone has to remember, most network shows that air have been first viewed by audiences at screenings before the show hits the air. Even with screenings, some turkeys still make it out and then they die after airing.

Johnny Carson used to comment that he didn't have any place to test his jokes before telling them during his monologue, if the jokes bombed. What sounded good in meetings doesn't always work in real life.

[thehumaneclipse]

One thing that everyone has to remember, most network shows that air have been first viewed by audiences at screenings before the show hits the air. Even with screenings, some turkeys still make it out and then they die after airing.

Johnny Carson used to comment that he didn't have any place to test his jokes before telling them during his monologue, if the jokes bombed. What sounded good in meetings doesn't always work in real life.

That’s right mikec. I agree. But there’s one thing you have to remember. The forums are for people to post their comments about the shows that air on Revision3. If someone’s knee-jerk (I’m not calling anyone a jerk it’s just a saying) reaction is that a show isn’t good after one or two episodes then they should be allowed to comment on it without constantly being told the inter workings of a network or show. Just because a show might have been shown to a test audience (which we don’t know if it was) before it airs doesn’t mean its good and doesn’t mean people should just shut up and watch it. Besides, the people at Revision3 are constantly telling the audience to make comments about R3 and the shows they produce, so don’t talk down to people just because they make comments you don’t like. If I’m constantly talked down to because of the stuff I post then I’m going to stop posting and not tell Revision3 what I like and don’t like and eventually quit watching the network. Because obviously if they don’t know what I like and don’t like then they’ll eventually start airing stuff that I don’t like and it’ll make me quit watching.

With that being said. If someone doesn’t like an episode after the first show and doesn’t say something then that show will continue to air what people don’t like. Granted, if you wait patiently enough then some of the things that you don’t like might grow on you, but at the same time, sometimes, bad is just bad. The show was pretty bad the first couple of episodes, but the third show actually looked kind of promising.

The video about the ring was fascinating and they played a lot more than just 20 seconds or so (at least I think they did, I mean, I didn’t time it). Then when Jessica read the comments from the Digg forums it was really interesting (and I didn’t like it during the first two episodes, see, I continued watching and it’s beginning to grow on me). I also liked the video about scientology, or anti-scientology I guess. I’m not sure if the video was that way or the people behind the show had anything to do with it, but when Jessica read the thing off like it was one of those commercials for music CD’s where a list of songs is read off (you know what I mean right?) I thought that that it was entertaining. I’ve been thinking that if this show did something like America’s Funniest Home Videos does, by talking over the videos and making funny, sarcastic, remarks about them, then it would make the show more entertaining to watch.

Personally, I liked this episode.

[balzout]

Guys come on...This show is great. More shows=Better if nothing else. I think.

[lordgwydyon]

I am a huge fan of Jessica Corbin but in many ways I agree with Ryudo:


...It's just like VH1 webjunk and a G4ish feel.
Jessica was great on Indigital as a gadget reviewer and way back in the day great with daily tech news and feel that is where she should be not on stuff like this.

Hopefully her other project will be more suited to her real talents and tech related as I noticed on the front website page culture stuff has far more shows than Tech so I hope we get more Tech shows in the future.

I just don't get these "digg" things and I don't care much for Digg Nation either for the same reason, although I do find Alex and Kevin's couch banter quite funny. I always enjoy watching Jessica Corbin. I find her very funny and charming. I would love to see her get more than one show and have them be longer and have a co-host on at least one of them. Jessica has a great rapport with co-hosts in general.

I will watch any show she is on.

[timcadieux]

I have to admit, I was surprised when watching Tekzilla, Jessica wasn't around for a few episodes, then suddenly she's leaving for something else. Ok, it happens, but with the shakeup that had just happened with the 3 hosts being broken up, I dunno, it just felt weird.

Plus, I like Jessica, nothing against her, but I just don't really see the point of this show, I mean, I can watch these videos myself on the site, I'm not really sure what the point of making a show like this is.

Here's hoping that Jessica and the Rev3 folkz manage to sort themselves out a bit.

Love the shows on the whole.