Heath Ledger (New Joker in Dark Knight) died.

[illusionz]

According to the New York City Police Department, Heath Ledger was found dead in his apartment in downtown Manhattan on January 22, 2008.

At 3:31 p.m., a masseuse arrived at Apartment 5A in the building for an appointment with Mr. Ledger, the police said. The masseuse was let in to the home by a housekeeper, who then knocked on the door of Mr. Ledger’s bedroom. When no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom and found Mr. Ledger unconscious. They shook him, but he did not respond. They immediately called the authorities. The police said they did not suspect foul play and said they found pills near the body

I'm not sure if they finished filming it or not, or how this could affect Dark Knight (if at all)

[truebullfan]

The movie is in Post Production but this really sucks. RIP Heath

[illusionz]

Yeah, I knew that, It just might be a little weird watching a dead Joker.

[bkamps]

Heath Ledger (the new joker) was found dead. Below is the link for the article. I have been looking forward for the dark knight, hopefully this wont affect the movie or release. Would they redo the movie with a new joker? Heath looked badass in the trailer I seen.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2004138849_webledger22.html

[lvalentino]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/22/heath.ledger.dead/index.html

Wow, this is insane.

[diane]

So sad, I always liked him. I loved him 10 Things and just liked everything he did. So sad.

[sobo310]

I was really shocked to read this headline on cnn. I wonder how this will affect batman

[illusionz]

http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13978

[illusionz]

http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13978

[isoprophlex]

i always think of the Crow when i see the trailer for Dark Knight because of Heath Ledger's makeup....

[popltree2]

I doubt it will affect Batman at all. They will probably probably add an "In Memory Of" at the start or end.

[bkamps]

didnt see your post..sorry

[taozoo4u]

woah

i think thats all i can say

[guagloves]

Wow... this is really sad. He seemed like a really nice guy.

From ABC.com:
He was to appear as the Joker this year in "The Dark Knight," a sequel to 2005's "Batman Begins" that recently finished filming.

[cogito]

I just heard on BBC and I thought I read the caption wrong. This is incredibly devastating.

[nextgenxbox]

Oh my God, this is so sad. He was a great actor and was ready to blow up with his Batman performance.... it's going to be odd to see him in the movie.

Poor guy.

Some people were on reddit saying this was a publicity stunt... I don't think Warner Bros would go that far with their viral marketing...

[baldmonkey]

I'm not sure if they finished filming it or not, or how this could affect Dark Knight (if at all)

Do you really think that the movie is the thing to focus on?

[ngower]

I'm shocked! It's tragic news, but I've got to assume it was somehow self-inflicted (drugs?). Horrible news, he was fantastic in I'm Not There...so sad.

[baldmonkey]

poor daughter.

[yodaizmyhomie]

Wow this seems so crazy. It doesn't seem real. Such a versatile actor imo. I really don't know what to say yet.

[owlboy]

Damn, this is the first time I've truly been surprised about a celebrity's death since Aalyiah

[wideawakewesley]

Truly shocking and unbelievable news. I love Heath Ledger in so many films and remember first seeing him in 10 Things I Hate About You. A Knights Tale will forever be one of my most rewatchable movies too.

What a waste...

[az0madman]

Wow, it's hard to believe...

[baldmonkey]

According to TMZ.com he was found in an apartment owned by Mary-Kate Olsen.

edit: not anymore.

[iggystar]

Very sad news. :(

[esophagus]

According to TMZ.com he was found in an apartment owned by Mary-Kate Olsen.

edit: not anymore.That was disproved? Do you have a link? CNN is still saying that's where he was found.

[martinr]

Wow, I just read about this 5 minutes ago. I'm shocked.

Hope his performance in The Dark Night will be a good one to remember him by.

R.I.P.

[deathsquad]

Wow! Get ready for a very depressing press tour. I wonder if this will affect ticket sales for the movie. (in a positive way)

[esophagus]

Really folks... Probably not the best time for Dark Knight talks.

[-xcl-]

wow unexpected .R.I.P.

[deathsquad]

Really folks... Probably not the best time for Dark Knight talks.

Did you personally know him? People die every day, do you provide them the same treatment? I think people should be allowed to discuss repercussions of his death on his last film.

[yodaizmyhomie]

Really folks... Probably not the best time for Dark Knight talks.

It's a free country. But I'm in agreement. Who gives a sh*t about Dark Knight right now.

[masherscf]

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/index.html?ref=movies

[esophagus]

Did you personally know him? People die every day, do you provide them the same treatment? I think people should be allowed to discuss repercussions of his death on his last film.Because I don't know him means nothing. The same respect should be given to everyone who dies.

[blacksymbiote]

I just heard about this from my friend who heard it on the radio... at first I thought he was playing a joke on me... it doesn't seem like it's real. r.i.p. heath

[yodaizmyhomie]

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/index.html?ref=movies

Thanks for the update Masherscf.

[digital2d]

I just wander if the post production stuff was done for Batman....BTW he was an asshole...you get to play joker,you have a very young daughter,and you at 28 already have had an Oscar nomination...why you fucking around with pills?

[yodaizmyhomie]

I just wander if the post production stuff was done for Batman....BTW he was an asshole...you get to play joker,you have a very young daughter,and you at 28 already have had an Oscar nomination...why you fucking around with pills?

Dude honestly... WTF?

[senoj1]

If there was something that eluded to the joker being in the next movie that could be retooled but who knows. Ledger was a great actor.

[digital2d]

Dude honestly... WTF?
Yeah, the minute you have kids your life isnt about you and your problems,its about your family,taking your own life or doing drugs in an unsafe manor is a dick move.....no one knows him beside the acting...thats all I care about...stop acting like you guys really care for the guy and look at what we know, Actor,had kids,drugs,death......another death from a very young stupid actor.....I pray for his kid...not him...That being said...he was a great actor...this is going to make batman franchise a square shit ton of money...And add a very strong depth to the joker's madness...this death really adds to the movie...in a scary sad way

[taozoo4u]

wow R.I.P Heath he was a great actor was in one of my all time favorite movies A Knights Tale and will blow everyones mind with his performance in The Dark Knight

[yodaizmyhomie]

Yeah, the minute you have kids your life isnt about you and your problems,its about your family,taking your own life or doing drugs in an unsafe manor is a dick move.....no one knows him beside the acting...thats all I care about...stop acting like you guys really care for the guy and look at what we know, Actor,had kids,drugs,death......another death from a very young stupid actor.....I pray for his kid...not him...That being said...he was a great actor...this is going to make batman franchise a square shit ton of money...And add a very strong depth to the joker's madness...this death really adds to the movie...in a scary sad way

I agree with some things you said, but in saying that, you don't know him or what happened either. So calling him an asshole from just initial reports (without an autopsy) is probably not the smartest thing to do.

But I won't respond again because I feel this isn't the appropriate thread to carry a disagreement between two people. Overall, it really sucks and I hope everything will go well with his family.

[digital2d]

I agree with some things you said, but in saying that, you don't know him or what happened either. So calling him an asshole from just initial reports (without an autopsy) is probably not the smartest thing to do.

But I won't respond again because I feel this isn't the appropriate thread to carry a disagreement between two people. Overall, it really sucks and I hope everything will go well with his family.
fully agreed!

[kilroyperrywinkle]

What...

Whut....

Huh?

What.

Why?

Whaut...

Damnit.

[kickarse]

Whoa, that sucks. Most likely OD'd. As most actors do, River Phoenix for example.

[ariastar]

I had a crush on him for a long time years ago. Young people dying always gets to me. Sounds like an OD. He did have a problem before, remember?

[irishpunk]

Just wow. Totally out of left field this came. Such a loss, truly a great actor.

[darthender]

Its definitely going to add a level of creepyness to watching the movie. Like Queen of the Damned, but...you know, hopefully a better movie.

[mrhaines]

This is so sad. I hope they dedicate the movie to him.

[jc-magnus]

... I honestly don't know what to say. RIP Heath

[beautiful-nightmare]

This is really sad.. :/

[nextgenxbox]

So sad... with his Joker performance he was going to become a superstar... probably $20 million dollar offers left and right.

[masherscf]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35366

[moneytime]

Wow. So insane. It really makes you think about things.
I don't know if it will be worse to find out if it was accidental or on purpose. It's just so effing tragic. He was a great actor who took risks and chose projects carefully and with integrity.
My thoughts are with his family, especially a daughter who will only know the legend of a father. :(

[jokerthief]

I haven't been this bummed since Steve Irwin died. This really sucks. :(

[neverendingwhitelights]

My first thought after the initial shock was, at least he didn't go out on a sour note, went out at the top of his game probably. Imagine if the last movie he did was some craptastic POS.

[esophagus]

Yeah, the minute you have kids your life isnt about you and your problems,its about your family,taking your own life or doing drugs in an unsafe manor is a dick move.....no one knows him beside the acting...thats all I care about...stop acting like you guys really care for the guy and look at what we know, Actor,had kids,drugs,death......another death from a very young stupid actor.....I pray for his kid...not him...That being said...he was a great actor...this is going to make batman franchise a square shit ton of money...And add a very strong depth to the joker's madness...this death really adds to the movie...in a scary sad wayIt's worthy to note that theres quite the chance this wasn't an intentional drug overdose. In fact, there's a possibility it wasn't a drug overdose. All we know for sure is that theres no apparent foul play and that there were pills in the room.

That said, even if it's suicide, I can't believe how inconsiderate you're being.

[mrbook]

My first thought after the initial shock was, at least he didn't go out on a sour note, went out at the top of his game probably. Imagine if the last movie he did was some craptastic POS.

Yeah, glad he didn't pull a Raul Julia in Street Fighter.

Aside from that, SO sad. The guy had such a bright future. My heart goes out to his little girl.

RIP Heath Ledger

[ryan79]

I was shocked when I heard this. It's awful to say, but the first thing I thought of when I heard the news was, "damn, he won't be in the next Batman movie".

This makes me think of what Owen Wilson went through recently. Add this to Britney Spears' self-destruction and it's a scary time for Hollywood.

[mercer]

Great actor, I'm sure he was a great guy.

Hollywood stars dying is nothing new to me though, so not sure how sad I should be...

Regardless, a really good actor was lost. I'm sure DK will be great and be a credit to his talent.

[rabidbadger]

I felt really similar when Kurt Cobain and River Pheonix died. Not to mention John Lennon.
Still, odd to put the death of celebrities over the horrid murders of regular folks trying to survive in darfur. I know Mr. Lennon would feel that way. :(

[kenshin_elite]

There saying he might of overdosed on Ambian a sleeping drug. Dont just automatically assume this guy was on the verge and doing heroine or cocaine. If he was taking a sleeping medication and either OD'ed or had a bad side affect we must remember not to jump to rash and harsh conclusions. Not every actor/star is a drug addict and all of you should do well to remember that. Rest In Peace on this horrible day.

[beautiful-nightmare]

Yeah, they're saying that he accidentally over-dosed.. This is heart breaking.. I can't even imagine what I'd be feeling if this happened to my family..

[lnknpk04]

I haven't been this bummed since Steve Irwin died. This really sucks. :(

I felt a lot worse when Irwin died, but this is still very sad. I didn't know he had a kid. I hope that it wasn't a suicide or something shady, for his daughter's sake. It would be horrible for her memory of her dad to be tainted by something like how he died.

[jokerthief]

There saying he might of overdosed on Ambian a sleeping drug. Dont just automatically assume this guy was on the verge and doing heroine or cocaine. If he was taking a sleeping medication and either OD'ed or had a bad side affect we must remember not to jump to rash and harsh conclusions. Not every actor/star is a drug addict and all of you should do well to remember that. Rest In Peace on this horrible day.

I once took two Ambien and quickly learned that it is not a drug to fuck around with. I was punch drunk; falling over, feeling euphoric, and had no idea what I was doing. I didn't take it to get high either. I was having an especially rough time getting to sleep so I decided to take two after one didn't work. I didn't get sleepy. Instead, ZANG!!!! I was not expecting what I felt. It was like taking 20 shots of liquor with a mild hallucinogen and it hit me within minutes of taking the second pill. I really don't think it would take too many of those to cause death and what I took was probably really dangerous. I ended up waking my roommate up because I was constantly falling down and making a ton of noise. And this wasn't just normal drunken stumbles. No, it was as if suddenly my notion of up and down was diametric to the truth. I fell often and violently. So violently that I put a hole in the drywall of my room with my head. My roommate had to babysit me for hours because I was delirious. When I sobered up I was absolutly shocked at what had happened.

[superunknown]

This is the first time that I've been emotionally affected by a celebrity death. He was a very talanted person and was just in the beginning a great career.


I'm sure this has already been said but I just felt like throwing in my two cents.

[lavahot]

What's really creepy is what the TRS guys said about The Joker's character, how he is undead, a dead thing that walks the Earth. Now, I'm not saying that Heath will rise from the grave, but his final performance as The Joker after he has died, a complete stretch for him, will define his career and his death, much like The Joker himself is defined. It will be the performance of a lifetime.

[cooljammer00]

scarily, it's probably his role as the Joker that caused his death. he has stated that prepping for the role haunted him so much, he couldn't sleep. he started to take Ambien, but he would still wake up, dazed.

he was really into method acting, and it'd be sad to see that this role is the one that cost him dearly.

[rabidbadger]

that's just bullshit. an actor role never killed anyone. it goes deeper than that. or maybe just a really sad accident.

[comhcinc]

that's just bullshit. an actor role never killed anyone. it goes deeper than that. or maybe just a really sad accident.
except brandon lee but that isn't what you meant.


and i completely agree. i read the first page of post then i stopped there. no one has a clue as to what happened at this time. i say give the man's family some peace and quit talking about it. at least until we have some offical word.

[dark_shroud]

I was saddened by his death as I know he has a daughter with his wife. Then I thought damn now he can't be in the next Batman movie. And for his sake I'm just glad Broke Back wasn't his last film. I really hope this wasn't suicide as he was about to get the credit he deserves as a great actor.

If it was suicide then he's a dick of a person to do that to his family and then his fans.

[nextgenxbox]

I was saddened by his death as I know he has a daughter with his wife. Then I thought damn now he can't be in the next Batman movie. And for his sake I'm just glad Broke Back wasn't his last film. I really hope this wasn't suicide as he was about to get the credit he deserves as a great actor.

If it was suicide then he's a dick of a person to do that to his family and then his fans.

Brokeback Mountain wasn't his last movie before The Dark Knight. He was in Casanova, Candy, and I'm Not There.

And what would have been bad about Brokeback being his last film? It was both a critical (86% RottenTomatoes Rating) and commercial (It only cost $14 mill to make and ended up earning $178 million worldwide) success -- Heck, he even got an Oscar nomination for his role.

[lavahot]

Then I thought damn now he can't be in the next Batman movie. And for his sake I'm just glad Broke Back wasn't his last film.

Well, Dark Knight is in post-production, which means he had finished all of his scenes and will be in the movie when it is released.

[wideawakewesley]

Yeah, the minute you have kids your life isnt about you and your problems,its about your family,taking your own life or doing drugs in an unsafe manor is a dick move.....no one knows him beside the acting...thats all I care about...stop acting like you guys really care for the guy and look at what we know, Actor,had kids,drugs,death......another death from a very young stupid actor.....I pray for his kid...not him...That being said...he was a great actor...this is going to make batman franchise a square shit ton of money...And add a very strong depth to the joker's madness...this death really adds to the movie...in a scary sad way

You sir are an idiot of the highest order. You have no idea what could have caused him to commit suicide (if that's what he did). For all we know, Heath Ledger had a mental illness that he was hiding. Until you've been there you really can't understand how your mind thinks...it's very f*cked up! Suicide is rarely the selfish act people claim it to be.

[darthender]

I notice alot of people are like "thank god his career is going out on a high note" and "at least his final performance is gonna be the one of a lifetime".

But...uh...unless I'm mistaken, none of us have actually SEEN Dark Knight yet.

What if it blows? What if he blows in it?

[mrpopular]

What if it blows? What if he blows in it?

Even if he does I'm pretty sure nobody(unless your an ass) will say that. due to his passing

[tnvwboy]

Being one of the few people here in the forums that has not seen any of his work, his death really doesn't sadden me any more than any other random death. Death is a part of life and it sucks, but... there it is.

I'm sure it'll cast a dark shadow over the release of Dark Knight, but it'll also draw a number of people to see the movie just simply because Ledger died before it was released. Just like The Crow. I have no doubt that movie was boosted by that same morbid curiosity.

Because I don't know his work I can't speak for his performances, but perhaps others will watch his older stuff and think, "Damn, too bad he's still not around, he was a great actor." I know I still feel that way about Kurt Cobain after all these years.

[andritchie]

Pretty shocking news,
It might be kinda weird watching Batman now.

I even felt a little strange watching Owen Wilson in the Darjeeling Limited since I read about his recent suicide attempt.

[fulltangninja]

My buddy texted me about this after it happened yesterday and I had to go to CNN just to prove to myself that it really happened.

This is an incredible loss for Hollywood and the world in general :(

[goliath553]

worst thread ever??? YES.

Stop speculating how he died, all you know is what the news told you (they are always so reliable).

I didn't know Heath, I was shocked when I heard he was dead, do I feel bad about it no. Is it sad? Yes. That is pretty much the accepted reaction I would think for most people when they hear about a celebrity death. Do we really need an 8 page post of either people giving generic 'I'm sad' responses (congratulations you're human after all) Or speculating that he killed himself? No. To be honest as bad as this may sound my first thought was how this would affect (or effect) Dark Knight. Movie looks awesome, he looks awesome as the Joker and I cant wait to see it. To me the most interesting and valuable replies here were concerning the current condition of the Dark Knight movie, and how this will impact its release.

[toolegit2kwit]

As tragic as it .... blah blah blah who gives a shit! Yes I am going to hell but first I have got to say this, Ledgers death ( possible suicide ) makes me want to see Dark Knight even more and here is why. The Joker in that movie is so totally bad ass he kills people in real life !!!!! How cool is That?

[oliviakay]

I'm quite upset.

[iggystar]

As tragic as it .... blah blah blah who gives a shit! Yes I am going to hell but first I have got to say this, Ledgers death ( possible suicide ) makes me want to see Dark Knight even more and here is why. The Joker in that movie is so totally bad ass he kills people in real life !!!!! How cool is That?


Obviously there are people who care, did you read any of the previous posts? There's no need to be a douchebag about it.

I think his death will spark many more people to see Dark Knight, that's kind of the nature of how life (and death) works. It's called irony.

[esophagus]

As tragic as it .... blah blah blah who gives a shit! Yes I am going to hell but first I have got to say this, Ledgers death ( possible suicide ) makes me want to see Dark Knight even more and here is why. The Joker in that movie is so totally bad ass he kills people in real life !!!!! How cool is That?Yeah, you're totally ri-- FUCK YOU!

[kowgod]

Don't forget to take a moment to think about the thousands of people who die senselessly every day who's position in life means that their death goes unnoticed outside of their immediate friends and families, if even that.

The dead know only one thing. It is better to be alive.

[iggystar]

Don't forget to take a moment to think about the thousands of people who die senselessly every day who's position in life means that their death goes unnoticed outside of their immediate friends and families, if even that.

The dead know only one thing. It is better to be alive.

Yes, and for their families I grieve. If I hear about anyone who passes, that's a sad event. And as for Mr. Ledger, I'll miss his acting and am sad that my best friend's favorite Hollywood crush is no longer and feel for his family.

I believe the dead know...nothing.

[esophagus]

Don't forget to take a moment to think about the thousands of people who die senselessly every day who's position in life means that their death goes unnoticed outside of their immediate friends and families, if even that.

The dead know only one thing. It is better to be alive.Each time a person hears of a death they should be saddened, they should try and show support, and never just shrug a shoulder because of it. Heath Ledger was a celebrity. He died. Just because he gets more publicity doesn't mean we should try and overlook it. His death isn't quite devestating to me, I'll move past it I'm sure, but I don't think disrespecting him because of how the public reacts to his death is really necessary.

[heyseuss]

Each time a person hears of a death they should be saddened

Really? It's just death. Part of life man, not a big deal, especially for a pop actor. What about the times a person doesn't hear about it?

[esophagus]

Really? It's just death. Part of life man, not a big deal, especially for a pop actor. What about the times a person doesn't hear about it?
Did you not actually read the rest of what I said?

[frankiethewaffle]

Wow this is saddening. I knew well of him from "The Patriot". I liked the guy. He has done other things since, including Broke Back Mountain. I really don't care to see them, still.

When I learned of his Batman connection, I was shocked. But I thought there may be something he may surprise me with, in his angle on the character. As the Dark Knight stuff came out, I was impressed.

Of course it is terrible. He has a young daughter. His wife is apparently estranged. May add to suicidal tendencies. All I have read is he had a depression thing going. Also that he was found close to prescription drugs. Well the empty container. I have also read he had pneumonia preceding this. Suffering a physical "beating" as well as depressive emotions can be terrible.

I haven't been this shocked since Chris Farleys' death. Although I knew of his drug use, I didn't think it would take him. I am hard on David Spade as a performer, especially stand up. But, he tried all he could to save Farley. He loved that guy. He suffered a huge loss.

As far as this death, it is sad. No one has any right to attack him or his life. It is sad. We as fans can enjoy his last work in Dark Knight. I am sure we will.

[ike6116]

I find it interesting to see this "outpouring of emotion" from people because an actor who lead a comfortable life died for not being able to successfully negotiate injesting pills in a non-lethal manner while at the same time turning a blind eye to the fact that we have poor kids in the military dying for a reason most people can't even agree upon.

Fuck any holier than thou forum poster who tries to imbue this as some solemn event by derriding people who "dare" talk about the implications on the movie or even try to make a joke about (I guess god needed a new joker too, "I wish I could quit you" - Heath Ledger to Mortal Coil) it. This isn't even tragic, it's unfortunate at best.

Get ahold of your lives and your priorities. Celebrity worship has to stop. This shouldn't be on the news every hour, it's insulting to the word news.

[nobodysleeps]

I'm not sure if they finished filming it or not, or how this could affect Dark Knight (if at all)

Wow, good to know that this is what you're thinking about in light of his death.

Man this is weird.

[kronos6948]

Wow...allow me to be the middle of the road of the last two posters.

While I don't feel that the movie should be ALL I'm concerned about, I also don't feel that his death is that important to ME.

As ike6116 said, there's more tragic things to be concerned with.

So, seeing as the movie IS important to me, count me among those who wanted to know where the movie stands. There's nothing wrong with feeling that way. But I don't feel that it has to be the only thing talked about.

[iggystar]

This shouldn't be on the news every hour, it's insulting to the word news.

I don't know about word news, but I'm very interested in world news. Word up, yo.

I find it interesting that a person can't feel saddened by this loss and still be concerned about "world" news and all the things that are more important in life.

These are the geek forums, we aren't discussing starving children (horrendous), dying soldiers (also horrendous), we are in a thread about Heath Ledger and his death. It is unfortunate, sad for some. I'm sad about him, if you want to know if I'm sad about the strife in Darfour, PM me and we can discuss that in a more appropriate setting. I too was concerned about Dark Knight.

I think there can be a balance.

[serenity]

Wow...allow me to be the middle of the road of the last two posters.

While I don't feel that the movie should be ALL I'm concerned about, I also don't feel that his death is that important to ME.

As ike6116 said, there's more tragic things to be concerned with.

So, seeing as the movie IS important to me, count me among those who wanted to know where the movie stands. There's nothing wrong with feeling that way. But I don't feel that it has to be the only thing talked about.

I popped in to say pretty much what you just said. :)

He was an actor, that's the only reason we know him. Of course we are concerned about the movie! It's fine to feel saddened at his death just for the sake of a life lost but it's also okay to wonder about the film.

I mean when someone dies, normally the people left behind are sad because they will miss that person in their everyday life. You'll miss seeing them, going to the beach with them, watching movies with them, talking with them etc. You may also feel sad for their family because they will be missing those things as well.

Heath was an actor we didn't personally know so what we will miss about him is seeing him act in movies. So it's not surprising that's what we think about.

When Stephen King was hit by a car my very first thought was "Oh no, please don't let him die with The Dark Tower series unfinished!" even though I adore SK as a person and not just a writer.

Anyway, I hope his family gets through this and has lots of support.

[ike6116]

I don't know about word news, but I'm very interested in world news. Word up, yo.


This is either an attempt at humor or the sentence somehow went over your head. I hope it is not the latter but based on the statements following this one I'm going to assume you did. It wasn't a typo. I meant THE WORD news.

News used to be relevant new information delivered by journalists. Today THE WORD news has been perverted to mean little more than talking points and celebrity gossip delivered by over makeup caked talking heads. Heath Ledger's death being reported the way it is shows the sorry state of affairs that is the modern definition of THE WORD news.

It also shows the sad state of affairs that is the public. Celebrity gossip labeled as news seems to sell and as this forum seems rife with buyers I'd just like to express the fact it makes me sick.

In short: 0/10, You fail at internet spelling nazi.

[digital2d]

It's worthy to note that theres quite the chance this wasn't an intentional drug overdose. In fact, there's a possibility it wasn't a drug overdose. All we know for sure is that theres no apparent foul play and that there were pills in the room.

That said, even if it's suicide, I can't believe how inconsiderate you're being.

I don't care for idiots that OD on drugs when they have kids of there own...

(which now that the corners have said the did the autopsy and are inconclusive on cause of death,which means they cant prove nor disprove...which mean there was enough drugs in his system to warrant concern,not to mention the rolled up $20 they found on his person,though it tested for no drug so far)

Sorry if my opinion hurts you,you being his friend and all......:rolleyes:

Why don't we see this level of concern for the kids of America that are living in shacks with no food..or that there is grown adults who cant read....thats more a travesty then a OD actor... I can't believe how inconsiderate you're being Here some REAL news for this thread...why don't we cry about this? http://www.familyhomelessness.org/pdf/fact_children.pdf

BTW...his joker is going to be the cats ass!

[serenity]

Normally I'm not one to make fun of others but since you're being a bit snarky I don't mind as much. That and this was just too funny for me to pass up:

"or that there is grown adults who cant read"

Heehee.
I could have picked others but that was the most deliciously ironic.
:D



"Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning." Bush

[ike6116]

"or that there is grown adults who cant read"

Heehee.
I could have picked others but that was the most deliciously ironic.
:D



"Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning." Bush


Iggystar could learn from you, this was well executed.

[toolegit2kwit]

People die all the time, you can cross the street and get hit by a car or have a heart attack at 40. All death is sad . It sucks for his family but this is not a tragic loss for the rest of the world or the entertainment world. He was no James Dean.

[esophagus]

I don't care for idiots that OD on drugs when they have kids of there own...

(which now that the corners have said the did the autopsy and are inconclusive on cause of death,which means they cant prove nor disprove...which mean there was enough drugs in his system to warrant concern,not to mention the rolled up $20 they found on his person,though it tested for no drug so far)Actually, the police have said it doesn't look like a suicide. Of course, no one can prove one way or the other as they weren't in the room at all, but why not give a guy with no history of drug abuse the benefit of the doubt?Sorry if my opinion hurts you,you being his friend and all......:rolleyes:You're right. Who cares if people die if I'm not good friends with them.Why don't we see this level of concern for the kids of America that are living in shacks with no food..or that there is grown adults who cant read....thats more a travesty then a OD actor... I can't believe how inconsiderate you're being Here some REAL news for this thread...why don't we cry about this? http://www.familyhomelessness.org/pdf/fact_children.pdf But wait, why should we care about these kids? They're not my friends.

Actually, I do care. Shit like that makes me sad to. Am I not allowed to find both of these things upsetting, just because one gets more public attention than the other? Heath Ledger probably doesn't deserve all of the media attention he's getting, at least certainly not more than those kids do. Does that mean I should just find his death okay?

No. This is a thread about the death of Heath Ledger. I came in to say that it sucks he died. If Heath Ledger were still alive, or not on CNN, those children would still be dying starving or homeless. Don't see why you should take that out on him.

My grandmother's dead. That upsets me. There are also starving children dying of AIDs in Africa. Should I only choose one to be upset about?

Whatever. All that said, I'm bowing out of this thread. No point in having this argument. I think you're disrespectful, you think I'm inconsiderate, and I couldn't really care less.

[kronos6948]

I popped in to say pretty much what you just said. :)

He was an actor, that's the only reason we know him. Of course we are concerned about the movie! It's fine to feel saddened at his death just for the sake of a life lost but it's also okay to wonder about the film.

I mean when someone dies, normally the people left behind are sad because they will miss that person in their everyday life. You'll miss seeing them, going to the beach with them, watching movies with them, talking with them etc. You may also feel sad for their family because they will be missing those things as well.

Heath was an actor we didn't personally know so what we will miss about him is seeing him act in movies. So it's not surprising that's what we think about.

When Stephen King was hit by a car my very first thought was "Oh no, please don't let him die with The Dark Tower series unfinished!" even though I adore SK as a person and not just a writer.

Anyway, I hope his family gets through this and has lots of support.

It's a natural thing to think like that. It's not being inconsiderate, as long as your sole motivation isn't culminated in you being pissed off that he's not going to finish the movie. That would be selfish.

(I know I've been a lurker for quite some time - over a year - but what is it with a lot of the newbs being trolls?)

[oliviakay]

This is either an attempt at humor or the sentence somehow went over your head. I hope it is not the latter but based on the statements following this one I'm going to assume you did. It wasn't a typo. I meant THE WORD news.

News used to be relevant new information delivered by journalists. Today THE WORD news has been perverted to mean little more than talking points and celebrity gossip delivered by over makeup caked talking heads. Heath Ledger's death being reported the way it is shows the sorry state of affairs that is the modern definition of THE WORD news.

It also shows the sad state of affairs that is the public. Celebrity gossip labeled as news seems to sell and as this forum seems rife with buyers I'd just like to express the fact it makes me sick.

In short: 0/10, You fail at internet spelling nazi.

If you're really that concerned with the political affairs of our country I'm sure there are forums for that. TRS happens to be a show about games, movies, comics, and media in general. It's appalling to me that you would attempt to make people feel bad about talking about someone who is famous for his films.

[frankiethewaffle]

Make no mistake. I am not mourning him terribly. Like I said I only respect one bit of his work in The Patriot. I have been, so far, impressed with what has been released of the next Batman movie. One sad thing is, who knows what pleasure could have served a possible depression by the success of that movie. Whether or not he committed suicide.

I am coming off of the death of a Great Uncle recently that I care much more about. A story comes from that too that I will post in General discussions. Trust me, it could only happen when my family is involved. He was actually my namesake, or I am his namesake, kinda. I don't know. There has always been a Frank in every generation. He was Francis. My Father had a Brother Frank that had died due to a drunk driver before I was born. I guess I am the only Frank left.

What I am saying is the only loss I feel is in the entertainment that this man would have provided. With the Batman movie he will provide that after his death. I wish he would have lived to see it. Like John Candy. Him I miss. He was so good and didn't finish the movie in which he died on the set. "Wagons East" I think. Comedy movies would have been different to this day if John Candy had not died.

[ike6116]

It's appalling to me that you would attempt to make people feel bad about talking about someone who is famous for his films.

Not at all. I take issue with people acting like their dog was just run over or telling other people "Now is not the time to be concerned with The Dark Knight."

This is not a huge great loss and I feel to drama-ticize it that way is disrespectful to the things in this world which are.

To the guy above me, can you imagine what comedy would be like if Phil Hartman were alive?

[moneytime]

Not at all. I take issue with people acting like their dog was just run over or telling other people "Now is not the time to be concerned with The Dark Knight."

This is not a huge great loss and I feel to drama-ticize it that way is disrespectful to the things in this world which are.

To the guy above me, can you imagine what comedy would be like if Phil Hartman were alive?

Dude, the end of anyones life creates "huge great loss". The mere act of conveying a condolement for someone who was well known does not necessarily trivialize other tragedies that are less known.

I think your issue is with the media, which I agree need to spend less time concerned about Hollywood.
But you can't attack individual people for expressing grief. This fucking thread is called " Heath Ledger( ) died." That's what people are going to talk about.

[digital2d]

Normally I'm not one to make fun of others but since you're being a bit snarky I don't mind as much. That and this was just too funny for me to pass up:

"or that there is grown adults who cant read"

Heehee.
I could have picked others but that was the most deliciously ironic.
:D



l"Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning." Bush

splitting hairs...thanks for calling me out on some stupid error and not the point,ill start being more grammatically correct now knowing the all seeing eye of wisdom is here...jerk...lol...But i jest

Really folks... Probably not the best time for Dark Knight talks.

This is why people here are arguing with bro, HE WAS AN ACTOR!!! all that matters is the parts he plays...I'm sure he thought so as well...actors want to be remembers for there great parts...not there personal life issues
Whatever. All that said, I'm bowing out of this thread. No point in having this argument. I think you're disrespectful, you think I'm inconsiderate, and I couldn't really care less.

The reason behind me lashing out is his death is not a tragedy for you,only his family and friends,which your nether ,it sucks for his fans,which you are....the use of the word "tragedy" is a joke here in this thread....He was an actor and a great one at that... I'm not saying you or he sucks balls or anything but don't sit there and try to say we shouldn't talk about his roles as an actor....I'm sure its what he wanted...suicide or not...and there are real tragedy's in the world right now.

On top of that if it was suicide I loose all respect for him.....that shits retarded,seeing he had a 2 year old.....if not,well it just sucks....

nothing personal bro....I sometimes come off as a turd but i really am :D

let's remember him for his roles he worked so hard at

Moving on,does anyone know how far along in post production DK was....I wonder if they are going to use a stand in......also was he done with that Dylan flick....that was a movie im interested in seeing as well.

[iggystar]

Get ahold of your lives and your priorities. Celebrity worship has to stop. This shouldn't be on the news every hour, it's insulting to the word news.

Hee, hee. I get it now, my mistake. I thought it was quite cute actually.

However, I still disagree. There could be many reasons why a person feels saddened and it doesn't always have to be about knowing someone or not. I believe there is balance that can be achieved. No, I didn't know him personally, yes, I can be saddened. I think all of this talk about, "he's just an actor"..."you didn't know him"..."there are other things we could be sad about" all irrelevant points, because we know these things already.

However, this is the Heath Ledger thread and I can't think of a better place where people who feel genuinely saddened can express such. I can't think of a better place for those who want to know if Dark Knight is completed to express such. Everything else, IMO is a thread crap and should be taken elsewhere. If you want to discuss the state of news, create a thread. If you want to discuss the state of celebrity worship, create a thread. If you want to bash people for being concerned about the completion of the most anticipated movie of the year, create a thread.

However for you, my dearest newb, to tell people with your what, 18 posts, to get ahold of their lives and priorities, is pretty insulting. I'm sure you have more constructive and geek things to post, especially with your excelling grammatical skills.

[damnedeyez]

I think there are two main reasons people take celebrity deaths hard...the first being, their work may have touched them in some way. It doesn't even have to be everything, just a song or an acting role that someone identifies with. The other would be the simple act of seeing these people all the time on TV and Movies. If you saw someone everyday, even if it was from afar on your commute, and suddenly they were gone, or you were told they died...it's going to affect you, simply because something you've grown used to and familiar with (seeing them, not knowing them) won't be there anymore.

Yes, it's ridiculous how much celebrity crap we see on the news (which tends to mean 'new information' and not 'new that is limited to what's most relevant') and they tend to harp too much on deaths...moreso if there are questions, but feeling loss or remorse in these instances is just human. (I'll stop there before I go off on a tangental rant on that last part)

[ike6116]

However for you, my dearest newb, to tell people with your what, 18 posts, to get ahold of their lives and priorities, is pretty insulting. I'm sure you have more constructive and geek things to post, especially with your excelling grammatical skills.

What I post should be the same no matter if I have 18 or 1800 posts.

I understand that the Revision 3 forum is quite an elite social club but really.

My issue is with people who would condescend to others about being insensitive, not necessarily people who are expressing sadness (even though to me that is hyperbole and said people should be brought back down to Earth).

People saying they get sad when anyone dies, please. No one could live their life like that you'd be emotionally crippled. There's a difference between understanding someone else's loss and feeling loss yourself.

People who lost a friend, a husband, a dad, they are sad.

People who lost someone they watched in motion pictures, they are saying they are sad so they can feel like a good person who is empathetic to others.

[kickarse]

People need take a chill pill, geez...

Here are some _facts_ -
1. He was an actor who was loved AND despised by many
2. All death is bad and sad, for many reasons
3. Heath was a substance abuser (alcohol for sure if not also drugs)
4. It's not a bad thing to feel sad for ANYONES death and NOBODY should tell you otherwise
5. Feeling saddened for one persons death does not belittle what else that's bad that's going on in the world, our hearts can be as big as we want them to be
6. Sadness has varying degrees of empathy and possibly depression, guilt, etc.
7. NOBODY can tell you what you are truly feeling. Someone telling you you aren't or can't be sad needs to see a psychologist

[iggystar]

What I post should be the same no matter if I have 18 or 1800 posts.

I understand that the Revision 3 forum is quite an elite social club but really.

My issue is with people who would condescend to others about being insensitive, not necessarily people who are expressing sadness (even though to me that is hyperbole and said people should be brought back down to Earth).

People saying they get sad when anyone dies, please. No one could live their life like that you'd be emotionally crippled. There's a difference between understanding someone else's loss and feeling loss yourself.

People who lost a friend, a husband, a dad, they are sad.

People who lost someone they watched in motion pictures, they are saying they are sad so they can feel like a good person who is empathetic to others.

No, there isn't an elite club here that I know of. I speak from the aspect of common sense. If you came into a party, where people know each other on some level and start telling people to "get a grip, get priorities, yadda, yadda", you'd get the same reaction. Why is it that people lose all social graces when they sit at a keyboard? I didn't flame you, I just pointed out that what you said was insulting and moreso because you just walked in the joint.

And mind you, I take issue with people who claim to know what other's feel. That's where I draw the line. Now, you might say that a person has no right to feel a certain way, that's up for debate, but you cannot possibly be inside another person's head, or heart.

Your problem with this whole thing is duly noted, I think very few disagree that the level of sadness based on not knowing a person, should be reasonable considering the circumstances. No one is comparing Heath to, a friend, a brother, he's an actor and I feel appropriately saddened. I didn't call off from work, but I felt an emotion....or did I? Do I have permission? Or am I just saying it for show? I can say that I'm not, but I guess your skills as a psychic are a match for your mastery as wordsmith too, huh?

Now let's run along. Again, hopefully you have more to contribute besides telling people what they aren't feeling. I'm done.

And what kickarse beat me to as well. Nicely done.

[digital2d]

What I post should be the same no matter if I have 18 or 1800 posts.

I understand that the Revision 3 forum is quite an elite social club but really.

My issue is with people who would condescend to others about being insensitive, not necessarily people who are expressing sadness (even though to me that is hyperbole and said people should be brought back down to Earth).

People saying they get sad when anyone dies, please. No one could live their life like that you'd be emotionally crippled. There's a difference between understanding someone else's loss and feeling loss yourself.

People who lost a friend, a husband, a dad, they are sad.

People who lost someone they watched in motion pictures, they are saying they are sad so they can feel like a good person who is empathetic to others.

agreed fully-lets all agree that its disappointing that he is dead and we wont be seeing him on TMZ anymore...only on the posters in some of your bedrooms.

[iggystar]

I don't have any posters of Heath. :)

Digital...I have a question directed to you via PM.

[moneytime]

I don't have any posters of Heath. :)

Digital...I have a question directed to you via PM.

(wince) ...uh oh..sounds like digital crossed the wrong star! (someones goin' PM down! haha!) lol! j/k :eek:

actually, iggy, just wanted to say that you are totally right and I admire the way you can articulate your points in a non confrontational way. Very respectful. :)

[iggystar]

(wince) ...uh oh..sounds like digital crossed the wrong star! (someones goin' PM down! haha!) lol! j/k :eek:

actually, iggy, just wanted to say that you are totally right and I admire the way you can articulate your points in a non confrontational way. Very respectful. :)


Thanks.

Lol...no, Digital is the only other person I ever noticed here from Detroit, so I was just asking a few questions. No fight in the PM ring.

[ike6116]

No, there isn't an elite club here that I know of. I speak from the aspect of common sense. If you came into a party, where people know each other on some level and start telling people to "get a grip, get priorities, yadda, yadda", you'd get the same reaction. Why is it that people lose all social graces when they sit at a keyboard? I didn't flame you, I just pointed out that what you said was insulting and moreso because you just walked in the joint.

And I just pointed out that this is an internet discussion board.

I have not lost any social graces and I have not said ANYTHING that I wouldn't say were we in meatspace. I have expressed the opinion that people in this thread are being overly dramatic about this whole affair and especially if we were in meatspace and someone tried to pull that holier than thou card telling myself and others "now is not the time" etc. then you really would have seen social graces abandoned, I don't respond well to that.

I've said my piece on the matter and it's clear there are those who agree and disagree with me. I am content with that.

[moneytime]

Originally Posted by iggystar View Post
Thanks.

Lol...no, Digital is the only other person I ever noticed here from Detroit, so I was just asking a few questions. No fight in the PM ring.

Haha! oh well. My money would have been on you if it were! lol :D

[masherscf]

I've said my piece on the matter and it's clear there are those who agree and disagree with me. I am content with that.

Any restraint demonstrated on the part of forum members in favor of an open yet polite exchange is greatly appreciated.

Remember, it is not required that a member agree with, like or even respect the opinions of other members. However, courtesy at all times is the rule.

[iggystar]

then you really would have seen social graces abandoned, I don't respond well to that.



Oh, I would have loved to see that. *shivers*

[reemixx]

Here are some _facts_ -

3. Heath was a substance abuser (alcohol for sure if not also drugs)

That's not a 'fact'. Where'd you pull that from?

Everything I've read stated that he was very much NOT a substance abuser and didn't even drink as he was over the whole 'party scene'. I also read somewhere that he had some hardcore sleeping pills for insomnia because playing the psychopathic role of the Joker caused him to not be able to sleep.

Kind of begs the question that perhaps if he hadn't done the role in Batman, would he still be alive?

Of course, I'm not claiming anything I've read is fact, because we simply do not know. Media sources are just assuming as much as anyone else. No-one really knows for sure. So please don't state something as a fact if you don't know that it is one.

[comhcinc]

uh from what i've seen he had normal sleeping pills. in fact nothing as strong as i get for my insomnia.


i love all the joker rumors. yes he died because he played the joker. just like mark hamill, jack nicholson, and cesar romero did!

[ariastar]

uh from what i've seen he had normal sleeping pills. in fact nothing as strong as i get for my insomnia.


i love all the joker rumors. yes he died because he played the joker. just like mark hamill, jack nicholson, and cesar romero did!

It's not how you're thinking. There is no "curse." He had hard methods he put in place to prepare for the role, and it apparently caused sleeping problems, which may have caused other issues.

[comhcinc]

like walking pneumonia?

[reemixx]

Well hey, just think about it.

Great actors who really portray emotion and depth have to be able to feel that stuff in real life. Obviously, the more you can do that as an actor, the more vulnerable you are to having that stuff affect you as a person. He obviously got very involved in the role if it caused him to have problems. It isn't that far fetched.

Regardless of the circumstances, the world as a whole, and Perth where he was from and where I live, has lost a great individual who will never be replaced.

[comhcinc]

i think it is very far fetched. if it didn't happen to brando i don't see it happening to ledger. over a comic book movie. and that is coming from a guy who loves comic books.

[ariastar]

i think it is very far fetched. if it didn't happen to brando i don't see it happening to ledger. over a comic book movie. and that is coming from a guy who loves comic books.

Brando had many more years of life and experience under his belt. "Comic book movie" or not, this is quite a demanding role for one so young.

[ariastar]

Regardless of the circumstances, the world as a whole, and Perth where he was from and where I live, has lost a great individual who will never be replaced.

Okay, his death isn't the end of the world. Sad, yes, he's a human, and a young one. A great actor for sure. Shocking, as he is someone we are all familiar with, so, to some extent, we are all affected.

He wasn't a philanthropist or actively working to change the world into a better place, like John Lennon. He didn't change the face of acting as we know it, the way Elvis changed music. He is only as irreplaceable as any other human in the end. Making him into a demi-god does him more of a disservice and will detract from the films he left behind.

[kickarse]

That's not a 'fact'. Where'd you pull that from?

Everything I've read stated that he was very much NOT a substance abuser and didn't even drink as he was over the whole 'party scene'. I also read somewhere that he had some hardcore sleeping pills for insomnia because playing the psychopathic role of the Joker caused him to not be able to sleep.

Kind of begs the question that perhaps if he hadn't done the role in Batman, would he still be alive?

Of course, I'm not claiming anything I've read is fact, because we simply do not know. Media sources are just assuming as much as anyone else. No-one really knows for sure. So please don't state something as a fact if you don't know that it is one.

Everything I've read (and not lately btw) said he used/abused/addicted to marijuana and cocaine. Besides that he was drunk on a lot of interviews.

I agree, I don't doubt that his role could have made him mentally unstable. It would have affected me too.

Aria, ANYONES life is special, not just those that might have done something "great" in a media spotlight. He was a father to girl, he was her hero at least and that was good enough for him.

[reemixx]

AriaStar: Jeez, that was a bit heartless and cold. As kickarse said, anyone's life is special. I didn't make him into a demi-god or say he was more special than anyone else, simply stated that his death was sad and it's a great loss.

kickarse: I'm not saying this is fact either, but I'm pretty sure he was no drug addict of any kind. A lot of Americans sort of saw him as a bit of a 'different' kind of character 'cause he was a Perth boy, an Aussie larrikin. He had that Aussie spark that sort of separated him from his Hollywood co-stars and friends. Whether he was drunk during an interview or two, or just appeared drunk because that was his nature, I don't know. I'm not saying he never did drugs or alcohol - on the contrary, I'm sure he did at certain stages of his life. I'm pretty sure most of us do. But that doesn't mean he was an addict. And I'm pretty sure for the last year or two, he didn't even really drink. Hell, the papers are now reporting that he died of natural causes, possibly a heart attack, rather than a drug overdose as the toxin levels in his body were too low to have done any major damage.

Seems that no-one really knows anything, including us. We're all making assumptions, and maybe we shouldn't. All in all, I guess it doesn't really matter. He'll be missed, that's all there is to it.

[wideawakewesley]

Accidental death...

Hollywood actor Heath Ledger died of an accidental overdose of six different types of prescription drugs, New York authorities have revealed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7231084.stm

[kickarse]

Err... Interesting

[kevincollateral]

from cnn

Deadly cocktail
Here are the drugs found in Heath Ledger's body:

• Oxycodone -- narcotic/pain killer; trade names: OxyContin, Percodan
• Hydrocodone -- narcotic/pain killer; trade name (combined with acetaminophen): Vicodin
• Diazepam -- anti-anxiety drug; trade name: Valium
• Alprazolam -- anti-anxiety drug; trade name: Xanax
• Doxylamine -- sleep medication; trade name: Unisom
• Temazepam -- sleep medication; trade name: Restoril

The combination of drugs could cause the brain and brain stem to "fall asleep," halting heart and lung function.

[heyseuss]

from cnn

Holy crap. I've taken uppers and I've taken downers, but not stoppers.

I have an extra strength 24hr slow release xanax that I am scared to take.


I worked with Heath once. The only thing I really liked about him was him getting Spiderbait into movies he was in, an Australian band from my teen years.

[johnnysix]

Holy crap. I've taken uppers and I've taken downers, but not stoppers.

I have an extra strength 24hr slow release xanax that I am scared to take.


I worked with Heath once. The only thing I really liked about him was him getting Spiderbait into movies he was in, an Australian band from my teen years.

Spiderbait FTW.

Buy me a Pony.

[heyseuss]

Spiderbait FTW.

Buy me a Pony.

I'm old school. Ole Man Sam, Old Man Sam, Footy, 7Zark7, Word I Said, and then I Gotta Know, Sam Gribbles, my favorite - Who Are The Freemasons. ... .hell, all of The Unfinished Spanish Galleon of Finely Lake. I spent new years eve at Rock Above The Falls in Erskine Falls, huddeld on stage behind Janet's bass amp for warmth, watching Kram in astonishment.

I got a set on fire that night.


Also - Regugitator, Def FX !!!!!

[marcomc2]

First off, Jesus - thats awesome. I am envious of you.
Second of all, I was so fucking disappointed in the TRS crew for not saying at least five words (Heath Ledger Rest In Peace) in any of the last episodes.
Why? I love you all, Jeff, Dan, Alex, but come on. Didnt you respect him at least a little? If you all hated him, then I get it. But I dont think thats the case. Or is it? (?)

Rest In Peace Heath Ledger

[heyseuss]

First off, Jesus - thats awesome. I am envious of you.
Second of all, I was so fucking disappointed in the TRS crew for not saying at least five words (Heath Ledger Rest In Peace) in any of the last episodes.
Why? I love you all, Jeff, Dan, Alex, but come on. Didnt you respect him at least a little? If you all hated him, then I get it. But I dont think thats the case. Or is it? (?)

Rest In Peace Heath Ledger

I've never been overly impressed by his acting, although I never saw Grimm or Mountain. I thought he was good in Lords Of Dogtown, but 'meh' otherwise.

[marcomc2]

okay, I get that, thats alright.
I thought he was getting better and better at a fast pace and was realizing, shit, this is the guy to watch. i mean, after seeing Im Not There, and seeing him as the joker, even if just for two minutes - was so awesome. and then boom, hes dead, wtf.
i was just surprised there was no single mention of him in a show that has a film segment in it.
i guess it doesnt really matter or affect anything, so fuck it.

[comhcinc]

i was just surprised there was no single mention of him in a show that has a film segment in it.
i guess it doesnt really matter or affect anything, so fuck it.

to me it's just being respectful. it really should be a private matter.

[esophagus]

They had a really kick-ass memorial for him, I was reading somewhere. A bunch of people dived into the ocean or something? Not sure. I'll go find a link. Anyways, I just thought it was awesome that it was something a little offbeat, as he seemed to be (not that I know him, just from following his acting career).

I hate that it's public knowledge though.

Here we go, People has an article (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20177222,00.html).