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euchre0
05-16-2008, 09:18 PM
The finale. The six will get off the island and will be on their way to that scene from this episode. I'm sure we'll know as much as they do about Jin and the reason behind denying the existence of other survivors.

Is this a guess or did you read this somewhere? Just to be clear, you're saying that the by the end of next episode the Oceanic 6 will be grouped together and movie off the island?

paper
05-16-2008, 09:20 PM
We've seen as much in previews. they have two hours to do it. Sun's already on the boat with Aaron.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz6Pxm6SMR4&watch_response

j-far
05-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Yea I think they're getting off the island this season. Then for the rest of the series they'll try and get back on for some reason. "Crazy Jack" thought it was a pretty good idea...

gungadin
05-17-2008, 12:21 AM
The thing that most intrigued me about last night's episode is how much me knowing what was going to happen affected how I thought it would work...

Thought process: "Well Aaron's with Claire, but Sawyer's gonna take him to the beach to meet up with Jack and Kate and Sun, also at the beach. Sayid leaves the boat by dinghy to get back to the beach so he could get picked up with the others. The only one we're missing is Hurley, who's going to somehow get to the beach and be scared by something he sees."

But the episodes have completely turned all those on their head. We know the Six have to eventually get to be in the same place at once in the near future. So what's interesting is seeing Jack go into the forest AND Sun go to the boat. That's what's blown my mind about this season...

paper
05-17-2008, 12:29 AM
It's very much an Abrams' style narrative (even if JJ's left much of the series to Damon at this point). You'd see Alias episodes starting at the end and then rewinding to an earlier point. It's dramatic irony. The audience knowing something the characters don't. Keeps us engaged and, as you mentioned, we mentally bridge the story points.

gungadin
05-17-2008, 12:50 AM
It's very much an Abrams' style narrative (even if JJ's left much of the series to Damon at this point). You'd see Alias episodes starting at the end and then rewinding to an earlier point. It's dramatic irony. The audience knowing something the characters don't. Keeps us engaged and, as you mentioned, we mentally bridge the story points.

I know... Just makes me wanna go watch Alias again... It's fantastic storytelling... Just so long's they pay it off in the end (which they totally will...)

casually-drowned
05-21-2008, 02:29 AM
I have been going back and watching all the old episodes of Lost, and I must say, I liked Sawyer more this time around. I am not sure exactly why, and I still think that him and Kate are all kinds of wrong together.

One of my favorite quotes of his that I can't believe I forgot about was from the episode about Nikki and Paulo (I forget what the exact number is), where he says, "Is there a forensics hatch I don't know about?" I laughed so hard when I heard it the second time around.

paper
05-21-2008, 02:36 AM
Sawyer rules!

kahunablair
05-21-2008, 04:27 PM
Sawyer is a crapload more likable once you get his full story. He annoyed the heck out of me the first season. Now he's one of my favorite characters.

vahnx
05-21-2008, 10:50 PM
I just started watching lost about 5 days to a week ago from episode 1. Started really batch watching it over the long weekend. Anyways I'm all caught up and awaiting the S04 finale in 8 days.

Gotta say it's a damn good show. Not as good as Prison Break, but still very entertaining. As a newbie who batched watched them all, I can tell you the Season 2 opening with that song, "Make Your Own Kind of Music" was one of the best moments (for me anyways). Also the end of Season 3 was again a great moment, "We gotta go back!".

I hate Locke's "father" sooo much. Never really liked Michael because of his whining in the first two seasons, always going "Waaalt!! Waaalt!!". Also, I don't like bug eye (Ben). Of course the main character, Jack, is awesome, and I like(d) Charlie 'n Drive Shaft "You all, everybody!".

Anyways, can't wait to see how they get off the island (or will they?) and how the others remain behind. And the trailer for the finale with Locke's little dialogue (not gonna say because it's a spoiler for those who don't watch trailers) looks awesome!

And for those who don't know, I'm pretty sure in a Youtube interview, Jack said they finished filming the final season (Season 7 I think) on the 14th. So whatever the "Libby DUI" thing may be, it might not matter much since I think they are done filming.

paper
05-21-2008, 10:52 PM
And for those who don't know, I'm pretty sure in a Youtube interview, Jack said they finished filming the final season (Season 7 I think) on the 14th. So whatever the "Libby DUI" thing may be, it might not matter much since I think they are done filming.


....that's not possible.

Also, Ben's the best character on the show, and for my money, the best villain on television.

valoharth
05-21-2008, 11:03 PM
Also, Ben's the best character on the show, and for my money, the best villain on television.

Villain? You still see him as the villain, weird. I think he turned into one of the good guys, granted I wouldn't trust him but over all he's changed.

mikegraham6
05-21-2008, 11:08 PM
Villain? You still see him as the villain, weird. I think he turned into one of the good guys, granted I wouldn't trust him but over all he's changed.
ya, he's very gradually become one of the good guys who you can't really trust (Juliette anyone?). The Candy bar scene between him and Hurly a few episodes ago deserves an emmy in and of it's self

vahnx
05-21-2008, 11:30 PM
....that's not possible.

Oh I was mistaken, I went back and it was an old clip from May 14th 2007 (not 2008) about just finished filming season 3 or 4.

paper
05-21-2008, 11:32 PM
Rule of thumb. They finish shooting the season mere weeks before it airs. They don't shoot a season a year ahead of time.

conorkilpatrick
05-22-2008, 02:05 AM
Finally got to watch the last episode. Very excellent.

Loved the mutli-pronged cliff hanger and found it interesting that each prong featured at least one member of the Oceanic Six.

Also, Hurley is like Ringo. No matter what kind of strife is going on within the group, everybody loves him.

conorkilpatrick
05-22-2008, 02:10 AM
Man, no one remembers she's also Ensign Ro.

That's funny - to me she's always going to be Dr. Julianna Cox.

mikegraham6
05-29-2008, 06:33 PM
Bumpity BUMP!
Just to get you guys sufficiently hyped for tonight's finale (like you get anymore hyped right?;)). Here's a few interesting Youtube vids

Every Flash-Forward in Chronological Order:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzjEBU-r9SU

The Crash of Oceanic Flight 815 From Every Angle at Once:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ILPnh4mOKo

kahunablair
05-29-2008, 07:08 PM
Good stuff, Mike!

I've already seen the multi-angle crash video, but not the flashback one. I'll watch that one tonight.

Did everyone see the Comic Book from John Locke's most recent episode? The one that had him getting tested ala the Dali Lama test?
http://www.uploadandgo.com/images/mystal40.jpg
Well some guys got there hands on the book, Mystery Tales #40 and are in the process of scanning the stories. Just thought it was a snazzy little thing to share.
http://www.mysterytales40.com/

oscarmonteforte
05-29-2008, 07:14 PM
Good stuff, Mike!

I've already seen the multi-angle crash video, but not the flashback one. I'll watch that one tonight.

Did everyone see the Comic Book from John Locke's most recent episode? The one that had him getting tested ala the Dali Lama test?
http://www.uploadandgo.com/images/mystal40.jpg
Well some guys got there hands on the book, Mystery Tales #40 and are in the process of scanning the stories. Just thought it was a snazzy little thing to share.
http://www.mysterytales40.com/


Perhaps you'd like to buy a copy for $405?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mystery-Tales-40-Very-Good-Condition-First-Atlas-Ditko_W0QQitemZ160239392040QQihZ006QQcategoryZ70QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

kahunablair
05-29-2008, 07:27 PM
Sold!

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:08 AM
Who the hell is Jeremy Bentham?!?!?! Im guessing it's the mercenary

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:40 AM
i don't know if i've ever mentioned it before but I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!!!! only 40 minutes in and this finale has been awesome!

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:58 AM
Sawyer's gonna make me cry........

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:58 AM
Why the hell isn't there more people discussing this play by play?!?!?!?
am i the only watching this?!?!?:confused:

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 02:11 AM
OH MY GOD!!!!! ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodo hmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodoh mygod!

this show just broke my heart in two

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 02:36 AM
Who the hell is Jeremy Bentham?!?!?! Im guessing it's the mercenary
Its DESMOND!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: HA! Way off on that one ;)

oscarmonteforte
05-30-2008, 03:27 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I for one am glad that they're making Weekend At Bernies 3. Jack is going to totally rock in the Andrew McCarthy role.

doc-samson
05-30-2008, 03:47 AM
Yeah! I called Locke right before they showed the casket opening, I win! Oh, right, no one heard me except my wife...but I win!

Awesome freaking show by the way.

paper
05-30-2008, 03:54 AM
Good, suspenseful stuff.

So, they're basically pitting different survivors on either side of the Ben/Widmore war. Sayid vs. Desmond and Sun. Penny is in danger.

Not sure how I feel about the Penny/Desmond reunion yet. I wasn't prepared for it to happen tonight. I was so caught off guard. It also worries me because now that they're reunited, they're more likely to be killed. And I really don't want that happen.

Dude...what's the deal with Charlotte? Born on the island?

This is gonna be a long ass hiatus.

ruo21
05-30-2008, 06:23 AM
FN A!

Best season finale of Lost yet, maybe the best episode so far. It was made interesting the entire time, and it even threw in a few twists. I thought for sure Ben was "Ben"thum, but then I heard his voice behind Jack and was like... "OHHH SNAAP!". I agree Penny is definitely in danger... mainly because of Ben's threat. F ME, I do not like Sun's character, but when she was screaming over Jin I was lovin her. Sawyer now thinks Kate is dead, and I can't wait to see the consequences of that... grieving, maybe hooking up with Juliet (2 years is a long time for a man like Sawyer to wait for some loving).

Question: When Ben was in the Middle Eastern dessert, was he wearing his snow uniform that he took to move the island?

Wow I was blown away by this episode I can't stop smiling. Since it ended I can't concentrate on anything else.

ruo21
05-30-2008, 06:31 AM
Zomg!

gungadin
05-30-2008, 06:33 AM
Good finale. I'm not sure if I'd say it was the best one they did... But it was certainly really enjoyable and there were hardcore scoot my feet on the foor in anxious tension moments... Great final twist and it felt a bit dragged out... But God damn Michael Emerson did nothing but steal this episode. Damn...

Great moments, quality.

P.S. Pol, I know you don't care at all, but the wait for BSG Season Four was more grueling than this one ;)

adeepercut2k
05-30-2008, 09:56 AM
Loved tonight's finale. I don't know if I like it more than season 2's finale but it's either my top 1 or 2 so far. (out of 4, lol) My only problem with it was the lack of enthusiasm I had for Penny and Desmond's reunion. My favorite couples on the show are Penny/Desmond and Sun/Jin and I feel that Sun/Jin finally delivered big time tonight. Several of my friends hate that couple and feels that it's boring but to me, reserved is not necessarily boring. Now with Sun taking controlling interest in Paik Co. we essentially have 3 huge corporations all going after the prize - the island. And don't fuckin' cross a mother looking for her newborn's father. The show's gonna get wicked.

As far as Penny/Desmond goes, I think you guys are right, she's in danger and I think if they had one episode this season that built up that relationship before this finale, their reunion could have been stronger. I felt it came across as flat and lax. Other than that, I loved this show. I thought the ox-wheel was awesome. Why is there snow and ice in the middle of an island? :) What an episode! (no way john locke is dead, the island will bring him back to life.)

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 09:59 AM
i REALLY hope we haven't seen the last of Desmond. It's a real possibility though, his storyarc is done...
Im interested to see how the show will handle the flashback/forward dynamic next season. We've basically seen everything we needed to from the Oceanic six's return to civilization, so im assuming their storyline will pick up with Jack trying to reunite the team. I see this being done through flashforwards though, because then the six will dominate EVERY flashforward. I think it will just become their storyarc. So this leaves two questions:
1)are we just going to go back to flashbacks? any flashforwards now (from either the six or the island crew) wouldn't seem to work in terms of the long term plot IMO

2)if they are going to follow both the island crew and the six (post Locke reveal) concurently, then the time frame doesn't add up. When the two storylines merge (and they will eventually) there will be the entire chunk of time from the flash forwards that will be seperating the two. We know time is screwed up on the island so will this mean that when they reunite, will only feel like the six had been off the island for a few weeks rather than months/years to those who remained on the island?

i hope that made sense, i don't know if i explained myself properly....

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 10:03 AM
But God damn Michael Emerson did nothing but steal this episode.
The scene where he was turning the wheel and crying? Priceless!

I don't think Jin got the same respect with his death that Charlie did. Sure we got to see Sun freak out but i needed more. Maybe it's just because im biased since Jin's my favorite character, but show the dude a some more respect people!

paper
05-30-2008, 12:11 PM
...Jin isn't dead, dude.

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 12:12 PM
...Jin isn't dead, dude.
i hope you're right.......

paper
05-30-2008, 12:14 PM
I didn't see a body, and they wouldn't have killed him like that. My friend also said that Kim was asked about his future on the show and he said something like, "I don't want to say too much, but my future is filled with things to do."

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:05 PM
I didn't see a body, and they wouldn't have killed him like that.

I'm not saying you're wrong (in fact i already said that i hope you're right) but you don't tend to see a body when it's involved in an explosion, there's usually not much of a body left.

My friend also said that Kim was asked about his future on the show and he said something like, "I don't want to say too much, but my future is filled with things to do."

But with Lost this could mean anything right? Christian Shepard's "dead" and we see him all the time. How many times have we seen Boone or Ethan pop up in falshbacks. Both have kicked the bucket ages ago....

paper
05-30-2008, 01:23 PM
It didn't feel like a death to me. I just don't buy it.

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:31 PM
It didn't feel like a death to me. I just don't buy it.
same. but i think we can both agree Michael has bought the farm. Christian Shepard basically confirmed it by telling him it's "okay for him to go". the island finally let him die

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:33 PM
what did everyone think of the "frozen wheel that moved the island" stuff? some of my friends thought that was a bit much. It didn't really bother me though, it fits with the low-tech nature of the mystical island. plus it was topped off with a great performance by Michael Emerson! I love that dude

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:48 PM
i feel like a douchbag posting so much back to back in this thread, but just can't resist:

Lost Alternate Endings: Who is Jeremy Bentham?? (http://tv.popcrunch.com/lost-who-is-jeremy-bentham-good-morning-america-lost-alternate-endings-video/)

paper
05-30-2008, 01:48 PM
same. but i think we can both agree Michael has bought the farm. Christian Shepard basically confirmed it by telling him it's "okay for him to go". the island finally let him die

I'm not willing to concede that one either.

What does "go" mean?

mikegraham6
05-30-2008, 01:54 PM
I'm not willing to concede that one either.

What does "go" mean?
he was right next to the C4 dude. even on Lost, dudes don't survive that. Remember how he wanted to die? by "go", the island finally let him die

paper
05-30-2008, 01:57 PM
A guy appeared out of nowhere next to the C4. It's reasonable that they could have escaped the same way. I'm not saying that definitely happened, but I think it's a possibility.

gobo
05-30-2008, 02:02 PM
But the guy who appeared is almost definitely (mostly) dead.

paper
05-30-2008, 02:21 PM
I.....I'm not sure whether the scene with Walt was closure on their story or if it's an indication that we might see a reunion at some point. I'm just not ready to call time of death.

gobo
05-30-2008, 02:27 PM
Hmm, maybe he is alive.

If Locke went and talked to Walt about it he might have seen Michael alive on the island somehow before he left the island to come back to the real world (maybe by moving the island again?)

paper
05-30-2008, 02:42 PM
I'd also like to just......the shot of Ben in the funeral home when Jack first turns to see him.....scary as fuck. He looks like a vampire!

jon_samuelson
05-30-2008, 03:09 PM
I definitely thought this was perhaps the most satisfying episode of LOST that they've produced so far. I think the show has a definite habit of answering questions with questions, and that the season finales tend to leave you absolutely starving for more episodes. This finale though was a lot more fulfilling than previous ones. In years previous we've been left with "Argh!!! Who's in the casket, damn it!", whereas this year we're left with "Why is HE in the casket?", "Why did HE come back?" Which for some reason I can't quite put my finger on is a lot more satisfying than being completely left in the dark. And moreover I would have been very annoyed by a traditional cliff-hanger ending, because we aren't just going to be waiting for the new season to start in Sept., we've got to wait all the way until January now. It would have been obnoxious to leave us dangling on something for 7+ months. But they didn't, and it was brilliant.

electricshoes
05-30-2008, 05:46 PM
But the guy who appeared is almost definitely (mostly) dead.

Unless he moves through time like the island... but your right he is probably not living.

vahnx
05-30-2008, 07:05 PM
Still so many mysteries surrounding the show. Jack's father on the island in season 1, was it real or was Jack seeing things? Not much is known about the monster. How did Locke wind up in the coffin? I'm really looking forward to when Claire finds out Jack is related. Also, the mysterious dude from the others that doesn't seem to age.

PS I love what happens with Locke on the island!

superfriend82
05-30-2008, 08:29 PM
i feel like a douchbag posting so much back to back in this thread, but just can't resist:

Lost Alternate Endings: Who is Jeremy Bentham?? (http://tv.popcrunch.com/lost-who-is-jeremy-bentham-good-morning-america-lost-alternate-endings-video/)

I am glad they went with the Locke ending. It's much better.

ruo21
05-30-2008, 09:50 PM
I liked the way that they brought Walt back. I always felt that he was important to the story, but I thought since his true age was outstretching his age in the show that they would forget about him. They have now shown the audience that the survivors have been off the island for more than a 2 years( Sun's baby talking) and this was a perfect time to hopefully bring Walt's story back into the show.
Bravo on almost every part of this episode.

paper
05-30-2008, 11:35 PM
I definitely thought this was perhaps the most satisfying episode of LOST that they've produced so far. I think the show has a definite habit of answering questions with questions, and that the season finales tend to leave you absolutely starving for more episodes. This finale though was a lot more fulfilling than previous ones. In years previous we've been left with "Argh!!! Who's in the casket, damn it!", whereas this year we're left with "Why is HE in the casket?", "Why did HE come back?" Which for some reason I can't quite put my finger on is a lot more satisfying than being completely left in the dark. And moreover I would have been very annoyed by a traditional cliff-hanger ending, because we aren't just going to be waiting for the new season to start in Sept., we've got to wait all the way until January now. It would have been obnoxious to leave us dangling on something for 7+ months. But they didn't, and it was brilliant.

Really? If I didn't have a convention this weekend to occupy my mind, I'd be pacing a hole in the floor. I think this season finale definitely leaves us in a nice stasis where we know where everybody is and what they're up to, but how the hell did Locke end up off island and dead?

probey
05-30-2008, 11:51 PM
I have to say that Michael Emerson has the uncanny ability to make any line of dialogue, no matter how ridiculous or silly, sound completely believable and even scary. Witness

Locke: "Was that what I think it was about?"
Ben: "If you mean time-traveling bunnies, then yes."

I would watch an entire episode of Ben shopping for groceries. His line about always having a plan and his ability to show up without provocation reminds me of Batman.

paper
05-31-2008, 12:02 AM
God, I loved that line.

So glad I watched that with three friends last night. We were laughing hysterically, gasping out loud, jumping out of our seats. It was a blast.

superfriend82
05-31-2008, 03:32 AM
Did anyone catch this fake commercialhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=V0PkRJRSv3M

Here is the wedsite http://commercial

paper
05-31-2008, 03:39 AM
Yeah, it has something to do with Comic Con. Waiting on the email response from ol' Dharma corp.

superfriend82
05-31-2008, 03:44 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V0PkRJRSv3M

http://http://octagonglobalrecruiting.com/

gungadin
05-31-2008, 06:09 PM
I'm with Paper on this one. I don't buy that Jin's dead and I don't buy that Michael's dead. They're just... nah... It doesn't feel right...

My problem with the episode is my knowing of how things were going to play out. Example: We knew the six were going to get off the island, so Sawyer jumping out of the helicopter didn't surprise me. Same with Jin not getting on the helicopter. There were surprises, but the path of the Oceanic Six didn't really do it for me. Strength of that episode were in the Not-Six and flashforwards... and in that, the episode was really, really good.

valoharth
05-31-2008, 09:35 PM
I think Micheal is dead, Jin maybe not. What I like about this show is that no one is safe. I think the season ended great, fantastic even.

kahunablair
06-01-2008, 01:13 AM
Michael dead.
Jin not dead.

Widmore was the old leader of the others. He moved the island after the purge to prevent Dharma or Hanso from getting back to the island. Doing so made him banished from the island.

Charlotte's parents were Dharma people, maybe the DeGrutts or the guy that was chopping down the tree over and over again in Locke's dream.

casually-drowned
06-01-2008, 02:11 AM
You and your cockamamie theories. We saw how that whole Claire rescue helicopter thing went. :)

kahunablair
06-01-2008, 07:50 PM
Don't doubt me woman!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=V0PkRJRSv3M

http://octagonglobalrecruiting.com/

Best comment on the commercial's Youtube page:
At 0:04....left hand is shaped like a rabbit, right hand is shaped like a fist.

JJ ABRAMS WANTS YOU TO FIST A RABBIT! THAT KINKY SON OF A BITCH!!!!!111

casually-drowned
06-02-2008, 12:00 AM
A double Hypertext Transfer Protocol leads to nowhere, Blair!

kahunablair
06-02-2008, 12:15 AM
Better, madam?

conorkilpatrick
06-02-2008, 03:42 AM
Harold Perrineau Dishes on his Lost Exit (Again) (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tvguide/365208_tvgif30.html)

By SHAWNA MALCOM
TV GUIDE

Lost's breathtaking finale will no doubt have fans feverishly dissecting its innumerable puzzles until the show returns in early 2009. (Read our recap and weigh in with your thoughts!) Locke (aka Jeremy Bentham) is in the coffin?! What "very bad things" happened after the Oceanic 6 left the island?? How in Jacob's name is Ben gonna help all of them — plus Locke! — get back there??? And exactly where did the former Others ringleader and that wacky frozen device move the island to?

But at least one major character's fate was definitively sealed with the close of Season 4 when Michael (Harold Perrineau), the suicidal castaway — and father to "real big" mystery boy Walt — perished aboard the fiery freighter. "Michael had an incredibly heroic, noble death," says executive producer Damon Lindelof. "He sacrificed his own life to redeem himself for past mistakes and to help the Oceanic 6 get off the island." Sound familiar? It was this time last year that we were mourning the loss of the similarly selfless Charlie. Though Michael got a little something special that the ex-junkie rock star did not: a surprise send-off from Christian Shephard.

Shortly after he wrapped filming, an emotional Perrineau — who made a much-hyped return to the series in March after leaving in Season 2 — called to chat about his explosive second exit, the mad dash home to be with pregnant wife Brittany and why he feels the lack of a Michael-Walt reunion was "not cool."

Much more in link.

Unless this is all a disinformation campaign - Michael's dead.

paper
06-02-2008, 03:58 AM
Hmmm....

I sort of kind of agree with him about the brief return being a little cheap if this really is the end of Michael, but I think playing the race card is a little odd. Sounds like fishing.

conorkilpatrick
06-02-2008, 07:41 AM
Mythbusters' Adam Savage on the Lost season finale. (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4266333.html?series=6)

I love that guy. He blows stuff up good.

valoharth
06-02-2008, 07:57 AM
I forgot about The Man form Tallahasse even though I watched that episode no more then a month and a half ago.

The explosives were a bit too much for me and the way they handled them, however the rest of the show was so good I was able to just let it go.

As for Micheal coming back and dieing so quickly, I'm glad. I didn't like Micheal even from the first season before the whole killing Libby thing made him hated by everyone. However reading that interview from the actor who played him makes me suspicious now. Now I'm doubting that he did die, or at the very least I'm doubting that he's "gone".

So everyone has to go back to the island, does this include Walt? I mean they really have to do something with him because his story isn't finished.

webnet
06-02-2008, 09:31 AM
....I don't know how you could be more dead than being blown up in a room full of C4. Yet, stranger stuff has happened on Lost, and what did Christian Shepherd mean by "you can go now Micheal," was he talking about going as in death or something else.

oscarmonteforte
06-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Hmmm....

I sort of kind of agree with him about the brief return being a little cheap if this really is the end of Michael, but I think playing the race card is a little odd. Sounds like fishing.

Yeah. that seems a little unjustified.

mikegraham6
06-02-2008, 12:31 PM
I forgot about The Man form Tallahasse even though I watched that episode no more then a month and a half ago.

The explosives were a bit too much for me and the way they handled them, however the rest of the show was so good I was able to just let it go.

As for Micheal coming back and dieing so quickly, I'm glad. I didn't like Micheal even from the first season before the whole killing Libby thing made him hated by everyone. However reading that interview from the actor who played him makes me suspicious now. Now I'm doubting that he did die, or at the very least I'm doubting that he's "gone".

So everyone has to go back to the island, does this include Walt? I mean they really have to do something with him because his story isn't finished.
i was SOOO glad that Locke referenced the "magic box" last heard in Season 3's The Man From Tallahasse. When i heard about it i thought this would be a big key to unlocking a significant portion of the mysteries on the series, but then they just forgot about it. Hopefully we'll hear more about it in season 5.

paper
06-02-2008, 12:47 PM
There is no actual box though.

They got Locke's dad captured by leaving the island and staging a car accident. The box is a metaphor for the technologies and resources available on the island that allow the Others to collect information, manipulate time (and space?) and "make things happen."

decepticon
06-02-2008, 06:16 PM
Great finale. I am so back in with Lost. The entire fourth season was great...and to think I almost walked away after the third season. Glad I stuck with it.

mikegraham6
06-02-2008, 08:32 PM
i dunno, the "magic box" thing would explain a helluva a lot. i can see where you're coming from though

paper
06-02-2008, 08:39 PM
I'm confused. Are you saying you think there really is a box? Ben explained that it was a metaphor. Ben always tells the truth.

mikegraham6
06-02-2008, 08:41 PM
I'm confused. Are you saying you think there really is a box? Ben explained that it was a metaphor. Ben always tells the truth.
when was that? i must have missed it, was it in the same episode?

paper
06-02-2008, 08:46 PM
It was 6 episodes later in the "The Brig."

Locke asks Ben about the Magic Box and Ben impatiently explains that it's a metaphor. It's a funny scene.

Here's the Lostpedia entry (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Box).

In the March 26, 2007 podcast, executive producer Damon Lindelof confirmed that the box reference is a metaphor for something else: "It would be kind of silly to walk to the middle of the island and there's a kind of a big large refrigerator box sitting there and Kate's horse comes trotting out and Sayid's little cat and Jack's dad ... that would be kind of the worst idea in the history of ideas."

In the May 23, 2007 special "Lost: The Answers," producers Cuse and Lindelof commented on the nature of the magic box metaphor, stating that "the entire island is a magic box."

kahunablair
06-02-2008, 08:46 PM
when was that? i must have missed it, was it in the same episode?

It was in The Brig.

From Lostpedia....
Ben then went on to show Locke a man who he claimed came out of the magic box. The man was gagged and tied to a chair. The man was Anthony Cooper, Locke's father.

When Locke pressed Ben for more about the box in "The Brig", Ben snapped back that "the box is a metaphor, John." Despite this, he continues to maintain that by some agency things that people on the island want or need show up.

In the March 26, 2007 podcast, executive producer Damon Lindelof confirmed that the box reference is a metaphor for something else: "It would be kind of silly to walk to the middle of the island and there's a kind of a big large refrigerator box sitting there and Kate's horse comes trotting out and Sayid's little cat and Jack's dad ... that would be kind of the worst idea in the history of ideas."

kahunablair
06-02-2008, 08:50 PM
http://www.uploadandgo.com/images/400px-Khan!!!.jpg

PAAAAAAAAAAAAPER!

mikegraham6
06-02-2008, 10:23 PM
holy crap, i just watched the finale again and i noticed that Faraday and his boat weren't back on the island at the time of it's disappearance. What does that mean? are they stuck in the middle of the ocean on a boat? Were they close enough to get transported as well? if not, what does this mean for the oceanic 6? it may throw a wrench into their plans! im glad i watched his again

paper
06-02-2008, 10:29 PM
Yeah, where are Rose and Bernard exactly?

conorkilpatrick
06-02-2008, 10:40 PM
holy crap, i just watched the finale again and i noticed that Faraday and his boat weren't back on the island at the time of it's disappearance. What does that mean? are they stuck in the middle of the ocean on a boat? Were they close enough to get transported as well? if not, what does this mean for the oceanic 6? it may throw a wrench into their plans! im glad i watched his again

What was it that Faraday knew was about to happen? He seemed to want to get the people he cared about off the island quickly, implying he knew it was about to be moved, yet he didn't know about the freighter's impending explosion...

Man, I love this show.

valoharth
06-02-2008, 10:47 PM
What was it that Faraday knew was about to happen? He seemed to want to get the people he cared about off the island quickly, implying he knew it was about to be moved, yet he didn't know about the freighter's impending explosion...

Man, I love this show.

Well I think that Faraday is caught, or was caught in the whole time loop thing like Desmond and the whole point of going to the island is to see if he can change it or alter events.

oscarmonteforte
06-02-2008, 11:38 PM
Yeah, where are Rose and Bernard exactly?

They were going to go to Greenland but decided on Senegal because of wind delays.

Yeah, that does sound silly in every available context.

I'm off on my own thing and I'm sure that most everyone (with exceptions of course) has no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

Carry on.

casually-drowned
06-02-2008, 11:55 PM
Is that a reference to a Dave Eggers book, perhaps?

oscarmonteforte
06-02-2008, 11:56 PM
Is that a reference to a Dave Eggers book, perhaps?

Indeed it is. I'm hoping to finish it tonight. It's clearly magnificent; silliness and all.

casually-drowned
06-02-2008, 11:58 PM
I really liked that book. Let me know what you think when you are done.

...back to Lost.

stefien
06-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Thank you!! This has been bugging the crap outta me! I knew I recognized her!! I found this on Google and had to register just so I could thank you. Phew. I can finally get some sleep tonight. ;)

Man, no one remembers she's also Ensign Ro.

I think they have a hard-on for Oz actors though

Eko, Michael and Abaddon (I think that's Lt. Daniels' name) are all from Oz.

kahunablair
08-01-2008, 05:08 AM
Not sure where else to put this, so here goes.

Apparently the "Recruitment" for Dharma was started at the Con and they pulled "volunteers" from the Lost Panel to take part in the segment. One of the "volunteers" decided to film his experience. It's a pretty nifty little video.

Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_dNsaz-AA

tomanderson
08-01-2008, 05:55 PM
Nice. I'll have to watch that later because the sound on my work computer a little fritzy at this point. I can't wait to get to the next season of Lost. I'm contemplating rewatching the previous seasons to build my momentum until the new season starts.

neuropolis
08-01-2008, 11:21 PM
Not sure where else to put this, so here goes.

Apparently the "Recruitment" for Dharma was started at the Con and they pulled "volunteers" from the Lost Panel to take part in the segment. One of the "volunteers" decided to film his experience. It's a pretty nifty little video.

Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_dNsaz-AA


Came by to see if this had been posted. Yeah, that little video intrigues me to no end.

Note "Marvin" looking down at his hand with regret. He knows he's going to lose it or... something. I get more intrigued with that character every time I see him. He needs to appear in a flashback stat.

kahunablair
08-02-2008, 12:20 AM
The part I found the most intriguing? Pay attention to the camera man's voice.

It's Daniel Farraday. In the past. 30 years ago.

gungadin
08-02-2008, 12:29 AM
The part I found the most intriguing? Pay attention to the camera man's voice.

It's Daniel Farraday. In the past. 30 years ago.

Fucking genius catch, my friend. Fucking genius catch.

neuropolis
08-02-2008, 12:49 AM
The part I found the most intriguing? Pay attention to the camera man's voice.

It's Daniel Farraday. In the past. 30 years ago.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/videodrone5000/Random_Crap/1213148074418.gif

paper
08-02-2008, 12:51 AM
Can't believe you gained that much weight just for a joke.

kahunablair
08-02-2008, 12:58 AM
That is some dedication!

That's my new favorite GIF.

neuropolis
08-02-2008, 01:40 AM
Can't believe you gained that much weight just for a joke.http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/videodrone5000/Random_Crap/lambertlol.gif

gobo
08-02-2008, 01:50 AM
Is that from Highlander 3?

paper
08-02-2008, 02:06 AM
Neuropolis comes to us from the legendary Rotten Tomatoes forums, where jokes are much more visual and complicated.

neuropolis
08-02-2008, 02:12 AM
Neuropolis comes to us from the legendary Rotten Tomatoes forums, where jokes are much more visual and complicated.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/videodrone5000/Random_Crap/CannonballDecapitation.gif

Okay, I'll stop.

gobo
08-02-2008, 02:16 AM
Bwahahaha

gungadin
08-02-2008, 02:17 AM
Okay, I'll stop.

I dunno, man... This one had me laughin pretty hard...

paper
08-02-2008, 02:34 AM
No need to stop. I'm just preparing the people.

optimus187prime
08-02-2008, 02:50 PM
Dont stop. I love GIFs. Cannonball to the face, brutal.

neuropolis
08-03-2008, 12:42 AM
No need to stop. I'm just preparing the people.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/videodrone5000/Random_Crap/1207478135907.gif

paper
08-03-2008, 12:53 AM
Absolute favorite funny moment in Lost. Bar none.

This is going to be really impressive if you can communicate entirely in gifs.

neuropolis
08-03-2008, 06:43 AM
Absolute favorite funny moment in Lost. Bar none.

This is going to be really impressive if you can communicate entirely in gifs.

I've done this before, actually. I have a folder full of gifs to pull out whenever I get lazy and/or don't know how to approach someone else's stupidity. Not that that's happened here, I'm just funning.