Alex going to be a dad.... question mark [Archive]

lavahot

02-02-2008, 06:23 AM

not a dad he's just moving in they have to get married first anyway

It's California, who says they have to get married? Personally it makes me depressed to think that I could watch this 30 year old guy who behaves like a 20 year old guy have a kid right in front of my eyes. Not only would it completely change my perception of him, but it makes me depressed because I'm not getting any.

ryan-asthenia

02-02-2008, 06:45 AM

its ok i still havent at all so at least you have at some point in your life

lavahot

02-02-2008, 07:20 AM

its ok i still havent at all so at least you have at some point in your life

No, I haven't.

ariastar

02-02-2008, 07:52 AM

not a dad he's just moving in they have to get married first anyway

No they don't. No law saying that, and fertility isn't on magic hold until I-do's. Millions of babies are born every year in the US to unwed parents, something like 400,000 of those (according to the news a few nights ago) to teenagers. As long as you're fertile and can find the right hole, there can be babies.

ariastar

02-02-2008, 07:57 AM

Personally it makes me depressed to think that I could watch this 30 year old guy who behaves like a 20 year old guy have a kid right in front of my eyes. Not only would it completely change my perception of him, but it makes me depressed because I'm not getting any.

Maybe he's acting like the typical modern-30-year-old? :)

If he and Heather decide having a baby is right for them, then good for them. Doesn't mean either would have to suddenly start being all serious. Being a dad doesn't mean Alex would be any less fun or would have to stop having fun and drinking. If anything, there may be amusing stories about not knowing to point a son's penis down into a diaper (point it up and they'll pee up onto their chests) or having a moment like in Jersey Girl.

My mom was 19 and my dad 21, and they were very fun parents who balanced being parents with being friends (I just asked for bitch control when I wanted it and knew I wouldn't be judged because they were friends, but they educated me because they were parents). They were very popular parents in the neighborhood.

ryan-asthenia

02-02-2008, 07:57 AM

ok ok i know that im just saying most people would choose to wait cause its a wiser choice

artofwar420

02-02-2008, 08:16 AM

A couple of things:

1. Marriage is not required for baby making.
2. Marriage does not equal a wiser/more responsble relationship.

masherscf

02-02-2008, 01:02 PM

I was gonna say, If you think marriage is required to produce a baby, you misunderstand the process. I can't remember presenting proper documentation the last time I entered coitus. Although, I can understand the confusion about the process. They probably don't teach much about it and if you've never done it, it can be a mystery. I had assumed there was a plethora of educational A/V available on the web. Although, "Chicks with Dicks 14" probably doesn't address the issue of matrimony with the proper context.

nace33

02-02-2008, 02:12 PM

2. Marriage does not equal a wiser/more responsble relationship.

Ah, yeah it does.

kronos6948

02-02-2008, 02:41 PM

Ah, yeah it does.

Tell that to the folks who neglect their children.

It SHOULD mean a more responsible/wiser relationship, but a lot of times it really doesn't. All I have to do to see proof of this is go down to my old neighborhood, and watch little kids deal drugs. Responsible/wiser parenting? I think not.

ariastar

02-02-2008, 02:56 PM

ok ok i know that im just saying most people would choose to wait cause its a wiser choice

2. Marriage does not equal a wiser/more responsble relationship.

Ah, yeah it does.

Kids, how old are you? 37% of babies born in 2006 were born to unwed mothers, and 80% of black babies were. I don't really see this as "most people." We're not talking a landslide majority here.

People routinely get married for the wrong reasons (Britney Spears getting married in Vegas, anyone?). Plenty of young couples, and some older ones, get married because it sounds like something fun, cheap (at the courthouse), and "adult" to do. In an ideal world people would wait for a marriage that was carefully thought out and then have babies as the careful forethought would be more likely to indicate stability and maturity, but this is not an ideal world. There is no litmus test to getting married, only a minimum age to marriage without parental consent, and an even younger one with parental consent (though I question the judgment of parents who will let their 15-year-olds, not even old enough to drive, get married instead of waiting a few years to see if the relationship last even that long).

There are single people out there, men as well as women, who would be fantastic as single parents, especially if that was the original plan, and there are plenty of married couples who should be fixed and never allowed to have kids.

bani_banan

02-02-2008, 05:12 PM

Off topic<3

I think it would be kind of cool seeing Alex as a dad. Though I don't think he'll continue on drinking as much as he used to do back in the good ol' days. =/

tokenuser

02-02-2008, 05:28 PM

I was gonna say, If you think marriage is required to produce a baby, you misunderstand the process. I can't remember presenting proper documentation the last time I entered coitus.Didn't you realise that your notions are outdated? MODERN sex education is all about abstinence, and the only time abstinence should be waived is after the appropriate paperwork has been filed - otherwise YOU WILL BURN FOR HELL IN ETERNITY.

Contraception and prophylactics don't prevent babies - abstinence does ... and the sad thing is that kids don't realise that marriage and abstinence often end up being the same thing :)

ryan-asthenia

02-02-2008, 06:01 PM

wow i dont think i would have said that if i knew it mattered this much..

i was just saying usually people get married to have a kid thats all

nace33

02-02-2008, 06:12 PM

Where I am from, marriage still means something. It isn't something that happens at the court house. It is something that happens when people unite and sacrifice for one another.

bani_banan

02-02-2008, 06:22 PM

Where I am from, marriage still means something. It isn't something that happens at the court house. It is something that happens when people unite and sacrifice for one another.

Well. I personally don't believe in marriage. I do believe that people can fall in love with more than just one person (not talking about being together with your girlfriend and thinking of having sex with her best friend, but having a girlfriend, yet having almost identical feelings for another girl).

However, people can devote them selves to a person in order to distant itself from humans worst fear... LONELYNES!

I think you're getting all christian up on us. Marriage + sex = not always babies
sex = not always babies. Moral + marriage + sex = not always babies

I bet Alex has monster sperms. They will make one power full baby.

kronos6948

02-02-2008, 06:39 PM

wow i dont think i would have said that if i knew it mattered this much..

i was just saying usually people get married to have a kid thats all

I understand where you're coming from, but that perception is outdated, and quite frankly, wrong anymore. Every year, there are more and more children born out of wedlock, not that there's anything wrong with that, IMO. I don't think you need a court document to seal your love with another person, nor do I believe you need someone's god to preside over you giving your vows to someone.

If anything, marriage nowadays deals more with a business arrangement and who gets what after the divorce, as well as a reason for an overpriced party, than it deals with love and devotion.

masherscf

02-02-2008, 06:43 PM

Where I am from, marriage still means something. It isn't something that happens at the court house. It is something that happens when people unite and sacrifice for one another.

Marriage does properly does not mean sacrifice. I think that's a poor way to characterize the compromise and commitment that accompanies any relationship. However, that compromise and commitment does not require a marriage certificate.

Binding yourself legally to another person is a way of adding someone to your family or making a family. Even, if it is only family of two. It's also a way of letting other family members know that your partner now outranks them.

A marriage does not change how you feel. It doesn't make anything easier or harder. I've been married for almost 11 years and I've never once found it a sacrifice. My wife sacrificed in order to put be though grad-school and we've both sacrificed professionally (her much more than me) in order to raise a family. I've turned down promotions and grant work and she resigned a tenure appointment to be more involved parents.

But, those are separate issues.

nace33

02-02-2008, 07:30 PM

I've been married for almost 11 years and I've never once found it a sacrifice.

So you never do what your wife wants to do, even though you don't want to do it? Awesome. You will probably come back and say that no you don't sacrifice, you just compromise. Well, half of a compromise is a desire to retain part of what YOU want. A sacrifice is a much greater gift to your spouse then a compromise.

nace33

02-02-2008, 07:34 PM

... If anything, marriage nowadays deals more with a business arrangement and who gets what after the divorce, as well as a reason for an overpriced party, than it deals with love and devotion.

Sad reality.

tokenuser

02-02-2008, 07:43 PM

A marriage does not change how you feel. It doesn't make anything easier or harder. I've been married for almost 11 years and I've never once found it a sacrifice. My wife sacrificed in order to put be though grad-school and we've both sacrificed professionally (her much more than me) in order to raise a family. I've turned down promotions and grant work and she resigned a tenure appointment to be more involved parents.
I dated my GF for 5 years, we lived together for another 5, and have been married for 6.

"Living in sin" isn't such an issue in Australia as it was made out to be for us in the US. It is fairly normal part of the progression from dating to partner. Try before you buy? Perhaps, but it results in much lower divorce rates (we lived together longer than the average marriage lasts in California - which is 4 year BTW).

For us, marriage was the right thing, and it made things a lot easier legally.

Yeah - there were sacrifices ... but that doesn't need a marriage, and they aren't sacrifices, they are alternate opportunities.

phatlip12

02-02-2008, 08:48 PM

I guess I don't exist considering I was conceived and born before my parents were married. ;)

nextgenxbox

02-02-2008, 09:35 PM

My parents were together for about 23 years before they went to the court house to make it official. Haha.

ariastar

02-02-2008, 11:48 PM

wow i dont think i would have said that if i knew it mattered this much..

i was just saying usually people get married to have a kid thats all

Wow, wrong, Kiddo. Having babies is rarely the reason anymore.

ariastar

02-02-2008, 11:49 PM

Where I am from, marriage still means something. It isn't something that happens at the court house. It is something that happens when people unite and sacrifice for one another.

If only it were still this way, only marriage shouldn't be about sacrifice, and sacrifice will occasionally happen, with or without a license.

ariastar

02-02-2008, 11:51 PM

So you never do what your wife wants to do, even though you don't want to do it? Awesome. You will probably come back and say that no you don't sacrifice, you just compromise. Well, half of a compromise is a desire to retain part of what YOU want. A sacrifice is a much greater gift to your spouse then a compromise.

If the wife wants him to hold her purse while she tries on a pair of shoes, or take out the trash in the middle of the game, and he does it, that's not a sacrifice. A sacrifice is to give up something you'd otherwise want to keep. But since the spouse is more important, it's not a sacrifice.

ariastar

02-02-2008, 11:52 PM

Contraception and prophylactics don't prevent babies - abstinence does ... and the sad thing is that kids don't realise that marriage and abstinence often end up being the same thing :)

Oh yes, so well that we're seeing an increase in teen babies. It's a miracle!!

(I realize you were being sarcastic.)

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 03:53 AM

No they don't. No law saying that, and fertility isn't on magic hold until I-do's. Millions of babies are born every year in the US to unwed parents, something like 400,000 of those (according to the news a few nights ago) to teenagers. As long as you're fertile and can find the right hole, there can be babies.

400'000 ??? to teenagers ? ? Maybe in south los angeles between may and june, for the whole country I'd say it's many more million than that. My friend is a doctor that delivers crack babies to 15 yr old girls daily.

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 04:03 AM

I had assumed there was a plethora of educational A/V available on the web. Although, "Chicks with Dicks 14" probably doesn't address the issue of matrimony with the proper context.

It wasn't until "Chick wtih Dicks 17" that they developed the dialogue for addressing such issues.

lavahot

02-03-2008, 04:20 AM

I'm still on chicks with dicks 4: the search for curly's gold.

Sigh, so lonely, :(

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 04:28 AM

I'm still on chicks with dicks 4: the search for curly's gold.

Sigh, so lonely, :(

Dude, don't worry about it too much, sex is overrated and no matter how much you have, it isn't what can make you truly happy. If you're that eager, get a whore, and by whore I mean girl your age with less than average intelligence.

lavahot

02-03-2008, 04:35 AM

Dude, don't worry about it too much, sex is overrated and no matter how much you have, it isn't what can make you truly happy. If you're that eager, get a whore, and by whore I mean girl your age with less than average intelligence.

Well, I do live in Nevada, so an actual whore is an option, but not a preferrable one. I'd rather not screw a gal whose brains have already been fucked out either. I just gotta find some poor hot mamma that willing to settle.

cerilia

02-03-2008, 04:46 AM

Well, I do live in Nevada, so an actual whore is an option, but not a preferrable one. I'd rather not screw a gal whose brains have already been fucked out either. I just gotta find some poor hot mamma that willing to settle.

Holy shit you're a dude? Lol, from the icon I thought you were some ugly chick, no offense!

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 04:53 AM

Holy shit you're a dude? Lol, from the icon I thought you were some ugly chick, no offense!

Yeeeowtch.

Some girls like the babybutt smoothness of Lava's cheeks, some would find him cute and adorable, maybe even wanting to breastfeed him like that girl in Grandma's Boy did to Jonah Hill.

In the end, it will work out fine for you Lava. You should try introducing yourself as Lavahot and tell them straight away that you are a virgin, that might interest some women.

And, GO COUGARS!!!1 ;)

ariastar

02-03-2008, 04:55 AM

400'000 ??? to teenagers ? ? Maybe in south los angeles between may and june, for the whole country I'd say it's many more million than that. My friend is a doctor that delivers crack babies to 15 yr old girls daily.

I thought so too, but, according to the news a few nights ago, the birth rate for teens declined in 2006. Hard to believe since only one of my own cousins reached 18 without at least two kids.

ariastar

02-03-2008, 04:56 AM

Holy shit you're a dude? Lol, from the icon I thought you were some ugly chick, no offense!

Ouch, that was a harsh and uncalled-for comment.

lavahot

02-03-2008, 04:59 AM

Holy shit you're a dude? Lol, from the icon I thought you were some ugly chick, no offense!

Oh yeah, no problem. Excuse me while I go hang myself.

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 05:01 AM

I thought so too, but, according to the news a few nights ago, the birth rate for teens declined in 2006.

That's the affect of the abstinece clubs and christian interventions in schools. Those clubs caused teen girls to be 6 times more likely to offer oral and 4 times more likely to offer anal. Thank goodness for christian governing.

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 05:04 AM

Oh yeah, no problem. Excuse me while I go hang myself.

Try not to scream like a girl during it. Just kidding Lava sorry.

You should pm that guy a picture of you naked to prov - - wait, wait, *shudder* nevermind.

lavahot

02-03-2008, 05:04 AM

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 05:07 AM

/me stops tying a noose.

And where can I find one of these Christian girls?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/08/19/arts/Bush450.jpg

lavahot

02-03-2008, 05:10 AM

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/08/19/arts/Bush450.jpg

Eureka!

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 05:15 AM

/me stops tying a noose.

And where can I find one of these Christian girls?

Do you college ?

ariastar

02-03-2008, 05:18 AM

That's the affect of the abstinece clubs and christian interventions in schools. Those clubs caused teen girls to be 6 times more likely to offer oral and 4 times more likely to offer anal. Thank goodness for christian governing.

I've heard Christian teens are more likely to have babies. Sex is evil and a topic to be avoided, therefore ignorance. Non-Christians educate. Kids will have sex either way. The responsible thing to do is to prepare them.

lavahot

02-03-2008, 05:29 AM

Do you college ?

sorta, I community college, which is hit and miss.

kronos6948

02-03-2008, 08:12 AM

I've heard Christian teens are more likely to have babies. Sex is evil and a topic to be avoided, therefore ignorance. Non-Christians educate. Kids will have sex either way. The responsible thing to do is to prepare them.

Let's not forget that if they do get knocked up, they don't believe in abortion.

Speaking of Christian girls...I gotta give it to the Catholic girls. They're the most sexed up women. Love it.

Check out Frank Zappa's "Catholic Girls", or the Red Hot Chili Peppers "Catholic School Girls Rule".

heyseuss

02-03-2008, 08:21 AM

Let's not forget that if they do get knocked up, they don't believe in abortion.

In the words of Bill Maher, "they believe life begins the moment the mans sperm hit's the womans hoohaa". . . he goes on to say, "before the man can light a cigarette, there is a third person in that room, before the man can get up and get a towel, there is a third person in that room, before the woman can say, 'what are you thinking?"

kowgod

02-03-2008, 08:43 AM

Alex could be my daddy anyday.

yeah, i stopped reading after like the 5th post

timestoby

02-03-2008, 08:58 AM

hahaha alex a daddie. id say go for it and move in with her.

ajadoniz

02-03-2008, 11:10 PM

400'000 ??? to teenagers ? ? Maybe in south los angeles between may and june, for the whole country I'd say it's many more million than that. My friend is a doctor that delivers crack babies to 15 yr old girls daily.

lol @ crack babies. There's at least 5 pregnant middle school kids at the school where i went to and at least 10 at my old high school. abstinence is obviously a failure and we need condom vending machines at every school, including elementary.

don't have kids, Alex, just stick with the dog.

ender-

02-03-2008, 11:43 PM

sorta, I community college, which is hit and miss.

no its a miss.

your probably like 12039128301289 times more likely to get laid at a university than at community college.

masherscf

02-03-2008, 11:44 PM

no its a miss.

your probably like 12039128301289 times more likely to get laid at a university than at community college.

I'd say your chances of getting laid at a Community college are nearly zero. There's no dorms.

ender-

02-03-2008, 11:58 PM

I'd say your chances of getting laid at a Community college are nearly zero. There's no dorms.

yeah, and the fact that theres no parties.

i left my college and started going to community college two semesters ago. its not the same. it sucks. i cant wait till if and when i go back. but i have a gf so im still gettin some.

masherscf

02-04-2008, 01:19 AM

yeah, and the fact that theres no parties.

i left my college and started going to community college two semesters ago. its not the same. it sucks. i cant wait till if and when i go back. but i have a gf so im still gettin some.

I'd imagine that the living at home would also cramp your style.