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bitches
02-08-2008, 02:59 AM
Okay, I sat through the second show, figuring I would give it one more chance.

I now fully understand why he was let go from TechTV(G4) and why the other shows didn't go anywhere on revision3.

There is nothing funny, unique, exciting nor interesting about any idea Martin has done. Annoying, lacking in creativity, uninspired and a waste of bandwidth, yes, that's all present and accounted for.

Sorry Martin. You should take the first job available at 711 either as a counter worker or janitor and do your best to make it a career.

Maybe, just maybe, if the show lost Martin and let Gator take over, it might stand a chance, but, then again, I doubt it.

Time to say goodbye and cancel Internet Super(suck)star.

ryudo
02-08-2008, 03:11 AM
Okay, I sat through the second show, figuring I would give it one more chance.

I now fully understand why he was let go from TechTV(G4) and why the other shows didn't go anywhere on revision3.

There is nothing funny, unique, exciting nor interesting about any idea Martin has done. Annoying, lacking in creativity, uninspired and a waste of bandwidth, yes, that's all present and accounted for.

Sorry Martin. You should take the first job available at 711 either as a counter worker or janitor and do your best to make it a career.

Maybe, just maybe, if the show lost Martin and let Gator take over, it might stand a chance, but, then again, I doubt it.

Time to say goodbye and cancel Internet Super(suck)star.

While I am not a Martin fan and not into his shows either but your forum name and this first post you come across as real immature.

Nice name and nice first post FTL.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1062/2043failcamerabk1.jpg

samureye
02-08-2008, 03:34 AM
While I am not a Martin fan and not into his shows either but your forum name and this first post you come across as real immature.

Nice name and nice first post FTL.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1062/2043failcamerabk1.jpg

I actually see nothing wrong with the first post, don't let your emotions get the better of you. You may not agree with the message, but the execution was well done.

ryudo
02-08-2008, 03:43 AM
I actually see nothing wrong with the first post, don't let your emotions get the better of you. You may not agree with the message, but the execution was well done.

I had no emotion in that post,actually as always pretty relaxed.
He is trying to insult a person by basically saying they are talentless and should be working burgers or 7-11 and the suck in the middle of superstar is a childish attempt at another insult.
And using a sign up name such as that is another.
Nothing wrong with criticism but his was done in the worst way.

kowgod
02-08-2008, 04:23 AM
Bitches would be my hero if Martin wasn't already.

I love them both.

phil-mize
02-08-2008, 06:50 AM
i think martin does a fine job with webdrifter... so far internet superstar is ok... it can get a lil boring and seems a little too staged... but i think martin does very well when he has somthing to do... but if its just him rambling on about nothing it tends to get boring and just plain weird... martin discuss some interesting topics and use ur contacts to get thier opinions on them... just going on about nothing gets boring after hearing it every time... talk about somthing... i wanna hear what mr pregnant has to say on his stance with abortion...lol seriously not just simple answers... knowing what weird fucked up people like him(mr pregnant) have to say on current events is interesting to me.. cause usually they bring up a topic i havent even considered on the subject or it just makes me feel better cause i know they are a complete idiot lol

bitches
02-08-2008, 02:34 PM
Ryudo, thank you for your comments. You see, I just found out about this thing folks are calling the AOL or the "Internet" if you will. It's truly quite fascinating and there is so much to do! I can make new friends like you after only one post.

Here, I always thought the point of forums was to openly discuss ones point of view, be it "pro" or "con", concerning a subject.

My views on Martin and his talents (or distinct lack of) would in this case be considered a "con" for Martin. You see, he puts himself and his ideas out there for us to see and the forums were put up for us to discuss them. That's what I am doing.

Now, realizing the same can be said for my comments, I fully accept that fact and you, by all means are more than welcome to have your opinion as well. I'm glad you do. Never have I thought that everyones viewpoints will fall in line with mine, but apparently some do.

True, I think Martin is a talentless hack who needs to try and switch careers before he is to old to learn a new trick. His stuff, in my opinion doesn't work. It's not entertaining. But I gave it a shot hoping that he would have learned from the past that the formula he has employed doesn't work.

As for this being my first post, well, what can I do about that? Everyone has to start out somewhere and generally it's with number one. Oh, and my name? That one is easy. It's because no matter where one goes on this "Internet" thing, someone like myself, inevitably meets someone like you.

All The Best,
--bitches xoxo

fishrjv
02-08-2008, 04:11 PM
I'd have to say I agree for the most part with bitches. Wait, I mean I don't agree with "bitches" bitches, but bitches the person, yes. Martin is just very unintriguing and not entertaining. I just don't "get" his shows. It's really time to move on from shows centered around internet oddities.

tokenuser
02-08-2008, 04:43 PM
Time to say goodbye and cancel Internet Super(suck)star.Half right.

Time to say goodbye.

I don't find "The View" to be particulary interesting either. So I don't watch it. Not going to effect if they continue making it or not.

So, Martin Sargent not to your liking? Easy solution. Don't watch, don't even bother commenting. Unless Gator has you tied down and Raoul is waterboarding you into submission ... no one s forcing you to watch. It is not a cruel and unusual punishment (well Mr Pregnant did probably violate several articles of the Geneva Convention), so go download something else and watch that instead.

fishrjv
02-08-2008, 04:50 PM
So, Martin Sargent not to your liking? Easy solution. Don't watch, don't even bother commenting.

Why shouldn't he be able to comment? Others could possibly share the same view and maybe offer suggestions on how to use Martin in better, more entertaining ways. It seems to me like he's just recycling the same premise over and over again. Louderback canceled Infected. Now we're essentially getting the same show with a different name. I'd like to see Sargent do something a little more innovative.

bitches
02-08-2008, 05:02 PM
Token, don't take this as criticism. Please.

I have read many of your comments here and followed pretty much the same line of thinking. But please understand my point. The forums are meant for us to post our opinions. That's what I'm doing here.


Half right.

Time to say goodbye.

I don't find "The View" to be particulary interesting either. So I don't watch it. Not going to effect if they continue making it or not.

So, Martin Sargent not to your liking? Easy solution. Don't watch, don't even bother commenting. Unless Gator has you tied down and Raoul is waterboarding you into submission ... no one s forcing you to watch. It is not a cruel and unusual punishment (well Mr Pregnant did probably violate several articles of the Geneva Convention), so go download something else and watch that instead.

Now, admittedly I'm not going to watch the show any longer. I think that's a given and will my +1 viewership be missed, no chance. But I have the right to voice my opinion, don't I? I am doing what we all do, voicing an opinion.

I can understand being called to task because of what I wrote, and I have no problem writing what I did. It is simply what forums were built for. To voice our opinions.

I don't know why this is hard to understand and maybe I am reading too much into it. I simply tried to voice my opinion about this show.

I think a much better use of bandwidth for rev3 would be to bring back a show like CTRL+ALT+CHICKEN that was actually funny and something my wife and I could watch together and laugh along with. I'm just not a fan of Martin and I wanted to let my voice be heard. Isn't that one of the uses of the forum?

Tell me where I went wrong...

tokenuser
02-08-2008, 05:07 PM
Token, don't take this as criticism. Please.It wasn't.

I have read many of your comments here and followed pretty much the same line of thinking. But please understand my point. The forums are meant for us to post our opinions. That's what I'm doing here.Perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Now, admittedly I'm not going to watch the show any longer. I think that's a given and will my +1 viewership be missed, no chance. But I have the right to voice my opinion, don't I? I am doing what we all do, voicing an opinion.No one arguing about you voicing an opinion.

I can understand being called to task because of what I wrote, and I have no problem writing what I did. It is simply what forums were built for. To voice our opinions.

I don't know why this is hard to understand and maybe I am reading too much into it. I simply tried to voice my opinion about this show.You are reading too much into it. You voiced an opinion about the show. Others voiced an opinion about your opinion.

I think a much better use of bandwidth for rev3 would be to bring back a show like CTRL+ALT+CHICKEN that was actually funny and something my wife and I could watch together and laugh along with. I'm just not a fan of Martin and I wanted to let my voice be heard. Isn't that one of the uses of the forum?

Tell me where I went wrong...Great - you are not a fan of Martin. You have voiced your opinion. It has been heard.

Now what?

bitches
02-08-2008, 05:15 PM
Now what?

Well, I'll continue to voice my opinion. I think the show should just be canceled.

frankiethewaffle
02-08-2008, 06:03 PM
This has become a tit for tat kinda thread between two people. But, I will throw in my lack of sense.

I am not the biggest Martin fan. I didn't like the thing he had on TV there. Infected wasn't great, but had its' moments. Webdrifter showed a lot of his talents. No script, funny, wise ass comments. Mostly under the radar or above the head of the "subjects" standing in front of him. Very funny.

Internet Superstar is kind of a combo. They are using technology available to make their stuff work. I think it is working. It is not the best thing on Rev 3. But, I am more than willing to give it a chance. Like your first shower in prison. Sure it can be bad, but you have to see if the rumors are true.

kilroyperrywinkle
02-08-2008, 06:10 PM
'this show sucks man balls' -God

dynomyte
02-08-2008, 07:42 PM
Someone wants attention, and yet we keep giving it to him. Every time he posts that it should be canceled, the more immature this really seems.

Like a child arguing back with the same statement over and over... just to piss you off even more.

bitches
02-08-2008, 11:22 PM
Someone wants attention...

I whole heartedly agree. I do. The point is that I want rev3 to listen to my point of view. In the broad scope, this is a part of market research for them. In the smaller scope, this is a manner in which I will express my point of view. That's one of the main purposes for forums. Express a view.

I think there are probably many viewers out there who might agree with me and by letting rev3 know what this point of view is, maybe they will make decisions in the future to cut their losses from the get-go. Again, my opinion.

Love on Martin all you can, give him the reach around even. Good enough.

dynomyte
02-09-2008, 03:07 AM
Internet Superstar is exactly what Rev3 needs. With the other shows covering reviews and technology related goodness, Internet Superstar offers you a break from all that. This is TV for the Internet Generation, not the same old media along with the same old media ideals.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it, however, if this post was a poll I can promise you that the masses would agree that this should not be canceled.

tokenuser
02-09-2008, 03:37 AM
I think there are probably many viewers out there who might agree with me and by letting rev3 know what this point of view is, maybe they will make decisions in the future to cut their losses from the get-go. Again, my opinion.Rev3 do care about opinions to improve shows (constructive criticism) ... but at the end of the day the only opinion that matter is the number of downloads logged for an episode.

Web Drifter (according to CNN interview with Martin) is getting 300,000 downloads - and that more than many cable network shows. So, express your opinion, but I think you are going to get shouted down.

kev585
02-09-2008, 04:02 AM
Okay, I sat through the second show, figuring I would give it one more chance.

I now fully understand why he was let go from TechTV(G4) and why the other shows didn't go anywhere on revision3.

There is nothing funny, unique, exciting nor interesting about any idea Martin has done. Annoying, lacking in creativity, uninspired and a waste of bandwidth, yes, that's all present and accounted for.

Sorry Martin. You should take the first job available at 711 either as a counter worker or janitor and do your best to make it a career.

Maybe, just maybe, if the show lost Martin and let Gator take over, it might stand a chance, but, then again, I doubt it.

Time to say goodbye and cancel Internet Super(suck)star.

Martin Sargent has never been my cup of tea, but he has his fans and they seem to be numerous. More power to Marty and his fanbase.

kronos6948
02-09-2008, 01:54 PM
Ok, bitches. You wonder why your post got the response it did? Let's go through it, piece by piece.


Okay, I sat through the second show, figuring I would give it one more chance.

A perfectly good way to start off a post. Nothing wrong here.

I now fully understand why he was let go from TechTV(G4) and why the other shows didn't go anywhere on revision3.

You don't know why Martin was let go from Tech TV. Does this same logic apply to why Kevin, Alex, Dan, Sarah, Patrick, Leo, and the rest have been let go from Tech TV?

There is nothing funny, unique, exciting nor interesting about any idea Martin has done. Annoying, lacking in creativity, uninspired and a waste of bandwidth, yes, that's all present and accounted for.

Still we haven't turned to trolling yet. Your opinion here is just that, your opinion, and a clearly stated opinion at that. Except for maybe the waste of bandwidth part. I don't think the amount of downloads shows it to be a waste of bandwidth.

Does the show lack creativity? I don't know. There are tons of talk shows out there, so I guess in a way they all lack creativity since they're all the same format.

Sorry Martin. You should take the first job available at 711 either as a counter worker or janitor and do your best to make it a career.

Now we get to the trolling portion of your post. Just because YOU don't enjoy his show, doesn't justify you telling him to get a job at 7-11 and make it a career. It's obvious that a LOT of people don't feel the way you do, and just because you think the show sucks doesn't mean that you have to denigrate his career choice.

After saying this part of your critique, coming off the way you did, the rest of your opinion loses credence because of it's troll-like nature. Especially with the name "Bitches".

Maybe, just maybe, if the show lost Martin and let Gator take over, it might stand a chance, but, then again, I doubt it.

Just shows that your real reason for not liking the show is the fact that for some reason, you really don't like Martin.

Time to say goodbye and cancel Internet Super(suck)star.

Another trollish part of your post.


So, if you really want your opinion to matter, don't go posting about it in such an inflammatory, trollish way, and people would take you more seriously.

ponytissue
02-09-2008, 11:31 PM
there is nothing more annoying than people who go through a post sentence by sentence and then comment on each part. Do you actually think people are looking at what youre writing? get crucial.

i dont totally agree with bitches, but this show is not what i was hoping for. i've said this before, but the best infected episodes were the first ones with just three guys shooting the shit and talking about things like the german guy who ate the penis of his lover and then hung him up on meat hooks. this show is absurdly staged imho, but it probably caters to more people than if the show were structured the way the first infecteds were, and ratings are what matters i guess. i think when infected went video, things went downhill. :(

this show was ok. the whole thing about raoul and the shed and gators finger, i mean its just not very clever or insightful to me, and martin and gator are relaly witty and so talented at quipping, but terrible at acting. i really wish the show were more genuine. but again, thats probably not what this show is supposed to be, so its not a fault in the show, just a personal disappointment.

kronos6948
02-10-2008, 12:24 AM
there is nothing more annoying than people who go through a post sentence by sentence and then comment on each part. Do you actually think people are looking at what youre writing? get crucial.

i dont totally agree with bitches, but this show is not what i was hoping for. i've said this before, but the best infected episodes were the first ones with just three guys shooting the shit and talking about things like the german guy who ate the penis of his lover and then hung him up on meat hooks. this show is absurdly staged imho, but it probably caters to more people than if the show were structured the way the first infecteds were, and ratings are what matters i guess. i think when infected went video, things went downhill. :(

this show was ok. the whole thing about raoul and the shed and gators finger, i mean its just not very clever or insightful to me, and martin and gator are relaly witty and so talented at quipping, but terrible at acting. i really wish the show were more genuine. but again, thats probably not what this show is supposed to be, so its not a fault in the show, just a personal disappointment.

Seems as if you're a bit self-righteous, aren't you?

Don't you realize the reason why people do things like that is that there may be SEVERAL different topics in a single post, and to comment on them in one big jumble becomes more tedious than reading each individual point.

If you read the whole thread, Bitches didn't understand why people came down so hard on his opinion of the show, even though people tried explaining it to him, so I took it apart piece by piece.

Too bad you liked the old Infected. It's gone. This isn't. Either you like it or you don't. If you don't like it, then don't watch it.

It's not as if it's not Martin and Gator being themselves, since they're the ones who came up with the idea, so it's just different facets of what they are.

jjones20
02-10-2008, 12:57 AM
honestly, i thought martin was great on tech tv, and i think i know why i havent really been feeling his other shows.

hes still the same guy, acts the same and everything, which fit really well while he had his show on tech tv, but i dont feel he meshes very well with the content hes working with now.

i do like web drifter, i get a bit of a "dirty jobs" kind of a feel from it, where he spends time with these people that i would never want to meet in real life, i enjoy that.

actually, all i think this show is missing is hot chicks, im not saying replace gator or nothing, but maybe add a chick in with the two of them, ya know, or have him interview chicks.

show needs more boobs.

anyway, hopefully he can have a stable show, that he can work with and make it great for a decent ammount of time.

and in that time, hopefully someone adds boobs to it.

also, boobs.

i loved unscrewed, mainly because it had that, plus other shit i was interested in / found funny, so far im liking internet superstar, but would love it if there was an unscrewed style show, i liked when they used to have webcam whores on there for different segments and what not.

tokenuser
02-10-2008, 02:29 AM
there is nothing more annoying than people who go through a post sentence by sentence and then comment on each part. Do you actually think people are looking at what youre writing? there are plenty of things more annoying than people replying to posts sentence by sentence like not using capitalisation correctly and missing the basic use of the apostrophe as a crucial part of a contraction.

People do actually read what you are writing ... so make it legible.

Oh yeah - people posting in faded colours to stand out piss the hell out of me as well.

get crucial.??? WTF is "get crucial" ???

Life is full of disappointments. You'll get over it.

ryudo
02-10-2008, 02:37 AM
Oh yeah - people posting in faded colours to stand out piss the hell out of me as well.



:p I never saw anyone post in dark olive green but the blue is here to stay.;)

tokenuser
02-10-2008, 02:41 AM
:p I never saw anyone post in dark olive green but the blue is here to stay.;)NP - blue has enough contrast. Easy enough to read on the grey background.

bani_banan
02-10-2008, 01:48 PM
actually, all i think this show is missing is hot chicks, im not saying replace gator or nothing, but maybe add a chick in with the two of them, ya know, or have him interview chicks.

show needs more boobs.

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and in that time, hopefully someone adds boobs to it.

also, boobs.



Totally agree with you on the boobs part. Also, It needs more cowbell.
There's just something missing.

BOOBS + COWBELL + MARIN + GATOR = SUCCESS!

emptypocketscarl
02-10-2008, 03:01 PM
Stick a fork in it - it's done.

godmode
02-10-2008, 03:47 PM
I was never a fan of Martin Sargent either. He seems like one of those morning zoo DJs on the radio. Maybe he should try his hand at that.

dynomyte
02-10-2008, 05:19 PM
I was never a fan of Martin Sargent either. He seems like one of those morning zoo DJs on the radio. Maybe he should try his hand at that.

That's great, however you are in the wrong forum. Comments like this shouldn't be in the Internet Superstar forum.

This post is just breeding negativity.

sugarsickness
02-11-2008, 03:24 AM
honestly, i thought martin was great on tech tv, and i think i know why i havent really been feeling his other shows.

hes still the same guy, acts the same and everything, which fit really well while he had his show on tech tv, but i dont feel he meshes very well with the content hes working with now.

i do like web drifter, i get a bit of a "dirty jobs" kind of a feel from it, where he spends time with these people that i would never want to meet in real life, i enjoy that.

actually, all i think this show is missing is hot chicks, im not saying replace gator or nothing, but maybe add a chick in with the two of them, ya know, or have him interview chicks.

show needs more boobs.

anyway, hopefully he can have a stable show, that he can work with and make it great for a decent ammount of time.

and in that time, hopefully someone adds boobs to it.

also, boobs.

i loved unscrewed, mainly because it had that, plus other shit i was interested in / found funny, so far im liking internet superstar, but would love it if there was an unscrewed style show, i liked when they used to have webcam whores on there for different segments and what not.

Internet Superstar needs two new segments added: "Gator's Gals" and "Girls Gone Wired"

metalpres
02-12-2008, 09:40 PM
I have to agree that this show is just awful. Web Drifter is fairly amusing most of the time, there was a few bad eps here and there. infected was the same way, mostly good with some bad here and there, mostly that obnoxious hollywood guy that was on there from time to time. but anyway as for Internet Superstar..... holy crap.... this is just painful to watch, the first episode was so boring, episode 2 was even worse... episode 3 was the last chance i was giving the show and yet again it was a total waste of time. if its just me and this show is actually getting lots of viewers then by all means keep it going, but i just cant imagine that being possible with how awful it really is. just my two cents to whoever it concerns.

tokenuser
02-12-2008, 09:52 PM
I have to agree that this show is just awful. ... episode 3 was the last chance i was giving the show and yet again it was a total waste of time. Is this posted in anticipation of tomorrows episode?

Lil Superstars don't count ...

kronos6948
02-12-2008, 10:30 PM
I guess I'm in the minority. I dig Martin's stuff.

Lot of haters in here.

kowgod
02-12-2008, 11:08 PM
I guess I'm in the minority. I dig Martin's stuff.

Lot of haters in here.

In this thread, yes.

But in the show threads, and elsewhere, the overwhelming response has been very positive!

I, personally, love the show.

metalpres
02-13-2008, 03:16 AM
Is this posted in anticipation of tomorrows episode?

Lil Superstars don't count ...

yes i was including the lil superstars when i was commenting, i know they arent full episodes but they are still part of the show.

on another note though, does anyone else think that rev3 needs to give Gator his own show? that would be awesome, if it wasnt for Gator martin would have been dead in the water long ago. Maybe get Gator to do kinda like a Red Green Show type of thing with slutty ladies and beater trucks.

motionblur
02-13-2008, 07:41 AM
Okay, I sat through the second show, figuring I would give it one more chance.

I now fully understand why he was let go from TechTV(G4) and why the other shows didn't go anywhere on revision3.

There is nothing funny, unique, exciting nor interesting about any idea Martin has done. Annoying, lacking in creativity, uninspired and a waste of bandwidth, yes, that's all present and accounted for.

Sorry Martin. You should take the first job available at 711 either as a counter worker or janitor and do your best to make it a career.

Maybe, just maybe, if the show lost Martin and let Gator take over, it might stand a chance, but, then again, I doubt it.

Time to say goodbye and cancel Internet Super(suck)star.

Martin's best moments are unscripted.

md2389
02-13-2008, 08:45 PM
Martin's best moments are unscripted.

Exactly, like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iicqWoBO9_I&NR=1) comedy gem.

Marty rules!

dnascimb
02-14-2008, 12:28 AM
Martin is a genius

dynomyte
02-14-2008, 02:44 AM
There only seems to be a lot of haters in this thread because of either the title or the person who started it trying to gather people to post negative comments. There are plenty more people who love the show.

If anything this may get more people to download just to see how 'bad' it is.

sgregory416
02-14-2008, 02:57 AM
you know i think "bitches" is infact the "hello my future girlfriend" kid. yes im talking to you bitches. sitting there with your grainy self and your dark deceitful shifty eyes. instead of trying to get your revenge through internet sir. i suggest you get your pale self out of your bedroom and walk to martin sargent maybe that way your may get some sun before you get your teeth kicked in by a backwards ninjitsu ricky kang body flop homeboy. hah!

bitches
03-22-2008, 03:51 AM
you know i think "bitches" is infact the "hello my future girlfriend" kid. yes im talking to you bitches. sitting there with your grainy self and your dark deceitful shifty eyes. instead of trying to get your revenge through internet sir. i suggest you get your pale self out of your bedroom and walk to martin sargent maybe that way your may get some sun before you get your teeth kicked in by a backwards ninjitsu ricky kang body flop homeboy. hah!

Um, I'm sorry. I don't know who the "hello my future girlfriend kid" is and no, that isn't me. But just help me out here a little bit.... what the hell did you say in your paragraph? I simply don't understand what language you're speaking.

Oh yeah, the show still sucks.

Actually Me == quite tan. Thanks though.

masherscf
03-22-2008, 03:59 AM
You are allowed to post your opinions only when they do not violate forum rules of conduct. This forum is not a free-for-all. You may voice your lack of affinity for "Internet Superstar" as long as it remains those boundaries.

thepwnbros
03-22-2008, 01:32 PM
there is nothing more annoying than people who go through a post sentence by sentence and then comment on each part. Do you actually think people are looking at what youre writing? get crucial.

If the person you're quoting doesn't even read it, I guess their opinion isn't worth anyones time.

i dont totally agree with bitches, but this show is not what i was hoping for. i've said this before, but the best infected episodes were the first ones with just three guys shooting the shit and talking about things like the german guy who ate the penis of his lover and then hung him up on meat hooks.

You'd like that.

[QUOTE=ponytissue;292610]this show is absurdly staged imho, but it probably caters to more people than if the show were structured the way the first infecteds were, and ratings are what matters i guess. i think when infected went video, things went downhill. :([QUOTE]

Ehh I kind of like I.S. more than I liked Infected, they should really get them a desk though.

nathan79
03-22-2008, 02:03 PM
Web Drifter > Unscrewed S.F. > Internet Superstar > Infected > Unscrewed L.A.
Just my opinion, although I think Internet Superstar has the ability to transform into a Super Internet Superstar, so long as Martin doesn't highlight his hair. :D

blackbird1
03-22-2008, 02:15 PM
Where was I? I forgot
The point that I was making
I said if I was smart that I would
Save up for a piece of string
And a rock to wind the string around

...

Throw the crib door wide
Let the people crawl inside
Someone in this town
Is trying to burn the playhouse down
They want to stop the ones who want
A rock to wind a string around
But everybody wants a rock
To wind a piece of string around

They Might be Giants


I am always amazed and amused. “I am going to express my opinion whether you like it or not”, “Well, my opinion is your opinion sucks, and if you are going to express it, I am going to express that it sucks”, “Well your opinion about my opinion is ...” ...,etc,... Not that I have not got caught up in it, some here will note that I have. Things that are simply jokes, or offhand remarks are given mor than thier do. It is sad.

Where opinions are asked for Troll's will feed. Others will insist on providing fodder. It is the way of the world [wide web] (:rolleyes: Ha ha ha, "World Wid Web" aha ha ha, I kill me <sigh>.).

I find myself a fan of Martin, though I know better. It is like laughing at a joke from “Larry the Cable Guy”, you know better, you don't want to, it should be beneath you, but dang, sometimes it is funny as hell.

Louder'butt has elsewhere mentioned coming up with some kind of “Rating System”. I would like that. I would love to be able to watch stuff here with my daughter without have to screen it first. That is not to say "I " would not watch the psychological sinkhole that is "Martin and co." I would, God forgive me, but I would.