View Full Version : The 9 Most Badass Bible Verses
darthender
02-15-2008, 07:25 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_15699_9-most-badass-bible-verses.html
Speaks for itself I think.
tehshawn
02-15-2008, 04:07 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_15699_9-most-badass-bible-verses.html
Speaks for itself I think.
Speaks very well for itself.
comhcinc
02-15-2008, 07:11 PM
really shouldn't be discussed here.
mrhaines
02-15-2008, 08:21 PM
really shouldn't be discussed here.
Read the article first...it is pretty funny.
comhcinc
02-15-2008, 08:23 PM
read the article months ago. still shouldn't be discussed here.
gonzooo
02-15-2008, 08:28 PM
really shouldn't be discussed here.
I fail to see how this should offend anyone. Thinking the bible is raw and very brutal at times does not equal making fun of it at anyone's expense.
comhcinc
02-15-2008, 08:34 PM
it's religion and people can be very fickle about that. trust me it will offend some one. best to not even bring it up.
iccanui
02-15-2008, 08:56 PM
Hey com are you a admin or something here? you have a lot of strong abrasive and authoritative opinions on how we all should be around here. I mean if this is your place, your forum, that you built or run, then by all means. but if not ...
Just wondering.
iccanui
02-15-2008, 09:08 PM
it's religion and people can be very fickle about that. trust me it will offend some one. best to not even bring it up.
In the words of mike muir
"And if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry
But, maybe you needed to be offended"
Seriously, isnt time to start talking about everyone getting a little too sensitive? If your god is all powerful and is the creator of the universe i think he is gonna be ok if someone makes a funny. I mean every where we look people are apologizing for just speaking their minds and being real. I think this fluffy touchy feely movment is getting out of hand. Dont get me wrong, i like hippies, i dont wanna offend anyone, but to not talk and grow and learn how to talk about deep and tough topics cause someones feelings might get hurt, i dont know, doesnt that feel like its the wrong path?
Seriously sometimes you need to be offended, you need to be rocked and reassess your beliefs and positions on things. Especially on religion, its a plan for living life and beyond, if any thing should be talked about, scrutinized and analyzed its that.
Or am i walking alone here?
comhcinc
02-15-2008, 09:22 PM
but if not ...
if not what?
In the words of mike muir
"And if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry
But, maybe you needed to be offended"
Seriously, isnt time to start talking about everyone getting a little too sensitive? If your god is all powerful and is the creator of the universe i think he is gonna be ok if someone makes a funny. I mean every where we look people are apologizing for just speaking their minds and being real. I think this fluffy touchy feely movment is getting out of hand. Dont get me wrong, i like hippies, i dont wanna offend anyone, but to not talk and grow and learn how to talk about deep and tough topics cause someones feelings might get hurt, i dont know, doesnt that feel like its the wrong path?
Seriously sometimes you need to be offended, you need to be rocked and reassess your beliefs and positions on things. Especially on religion, its a plan for living life and beyond, if any thing should be talked about, scrutinized and analyzed its that.
Or am i walking alone here?
the Totally Rad Show is about video games, movies, tv shows and comic books, not about religion. why open that can of worms?
you want to discuss religion start a thread in the general forum. i will discuss it with you all day.
neverendingwhitelights
02-15-2008, 09:30 PM
The #1 way to start an argument in a group of people.
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What is religion?
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CORRECT!
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Thanks, I'll take the Pen Is Mightier for $300, Alex.
iccanui
02-15-2008, 09:53 PM
if not what?
the Totally Rad Show is about video games, movies, tv shows and comic books, not about religion. why open that can of worms?
you want to discuss religion start a thread in the general forum. i will discuss it with you all day.
Yea, but this isnt the Totally Rad Show. This is the forums. I hear you though dude, i know religion is touchy, but all this shying away and cuddling about topics that run the world is very 1990 soccer mom. I mean bottom line if i wanna talk about religion to the people of this message board that i share so much in common with, what good does it do to post in general where almost no one from here posts and vise versa.
Anyway. Its not worth getting into. I know i cant change your mind ;) So ....
Happy caturday !
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Have a good weekend.
mrhaines
02-15-2008, 11:49 PM
if not what?
the Totally Rad Show is about video games, movies, tv shows and comic books, not about religion. why open that can of worms?
you want to discuss religion start a thread in the general forum. i will discuss it with you all day.
Am I allowed to talk about South Park then? Or how about The Davinci Code? This article isn't even about religion, the bible isn't just a religious book, it is also a piece of literature. People can talk about it all they want. If it offends you, then don't read it. The title of the article should be enough to let you know whether it will offend you or not.
And religion is just a part of life, get used to it.
Lots of the stuff the guys talk about on the show have religious undertones...heck check out Dan's "favorite" comic book "Preacher" if you don't belive me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preacher_(comics))
No one has a right to never be offended. Everyone has a right not to click a link to an article that they might find offensive.
comhcinc
02-16-2008, 12:18 AM
Am I allowed to talk about South Park then?
that would be a tv show
Or how about The Davinci Code?
that would be a movie
this is a forum for a entertainment show. if you really want to start discussing religion people are going to get upset. i'm trying to avoid that.
now you mention preacher and tried to make some connection between that and this thread. there is a big difference. preacher was discussed on the show this is a artcle off of some website. there is no connection the show.
even when there is a connection discussing religion will turn out bad (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12567&highlight=golden+compass)
mrhaines
02-16-2008, 12:29 AM
that would be a movie
this is a forum for a entertainment show. if you really want to start discussing religion people are going to get upset. i'm trying to avoid that.
now you mention preacher and tried to make some connection between that and this thread. there is a big difference. preacher was discussed on the show this is a artcle off of some website. there is no connection the show.
even when there is a connection discussing religion will turn out bad (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12567&highlight=golden+compass)
The only reason it turned out bad is because you turned it that way. No one seems to have been offended except for you. People discuss stuff all the time that is not discussed on the show.
comhcinc
02-16-2008, 12:45 AM
The only reason it turned out bad is because you turned it that way. No one seems to have been offended except for you. People discuss stuff all the time that is not discussed on the show.
while i appreciate the vote of confidence i don't have the ability to turn a whole 21 page thread bad. too many people have me on ignore.
no it's really just a can of worms that should be left un-opened.
by the way before you take that lie and repeat it over and over i am not offended, i just understand that some people will be. there are plenty of other things we can discuss that won't piss people off.
kickarse
02-16-2008, 02:42 AM
The only reason it turned out bad is because you turned it that way. No one seems to have been offended except for you. People discuss stuff all the time that is not discussed on the show.
Exactly.
I found the site humorous despite the glaring incorrectness of the interpretations. The title should read "10 Out of Context Scriptures Atheists Think Are Badass".
Some people need to get thicker skin. Or just remove themselves from the internet.
There are two things that get beneath people's skin, politics and religion. But besides the discomfort they do NEED to be talked about in a civil manner. And all sides have extremists that won't abide by a non argumentative discussion. And that's why we have moderators ;)
patch
02-16-2008, 06:23 AM
I have two things to add to this thread.
The title should read "10 Out of Context Scriptures Atheists Think Are Badass".
1.) I'm an Atheist, and I don't find anything in the bible badass.
2.) Can your god do anything? Can your god create a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?
-fin-
kickarse
02-16-2008, 07:41 AM
I have two things to add to this thread.
1.) I'm an Atheist, and I don't find anything in the bible badass.
2.) Can your god do anything? Can your god create a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?
-fin-
Touche...
darthender
02-16-2008, 09:51 AM
the Totally Rad Show is about video games, movies, tv shows and comic books, not about religion.The Totally Rad Show is about all things rad.
The list is rad.
Therefore...
I bet an ass' jawbone would make a badass boomerang.
damnedeyez
02-16-2008, 09:58 AM
I bet an ass' jawbone would make a badass boomerang.
Nah, the angle is too small...might work ok as just a projectile though.
tectec
02-16-2008, 02:53 PM
The Prince of Egypt was a pretty cool movie. They didn't mention any of these verses though.
(Veggie Tales * Prison Break) / Mr. Rogers Trolley > (The Wiggles + Richard Simmons + LL Cool J)
darthender
02-17-2008, 07:54 AM
I....I do not understand that equation.
autodas
02-17-2008, 09:19 AM
I have two things to add to this thread.
1.) I'm an Atheist, and I don't find anything in the bible badass.
2.) Can your god do anything? Can your god create a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?
-fin-
I'd like to think that I'm atheist, not an Atheist. Just like how I'm libertarian because I'm a humanitarian.
patch
02-17-2008, 02:41 PM
I'd like to think that I'm atheist, not an Atheist. Just like how I'm libertarian because I'm a humanitarian.
Umm, there is no difference between an athiest and an Atheist. Lol. I will go into detail about this if you wish, just send me a PM, I don't want to start a holy war out in the open.
I personally am an Atheist-Agnostic. Don't know how those two can be at the same time? I'll explain that as well.
fashiondr
02-17-2008, 07:45 PM
I should totaly read the Bible, that stuff IS badass!
Lucky for me my father-in-law didn't ask me to mutilate any genitals when I proposed to my wife, sounds messy...
maynza
02-17-2008, 08:38 PM
Damn I can't wait for Samson to be made into a movie. It's supposed to be the sequel to 300, "3000".
masherscf
02-17-2008, 09:39 PM
Damn I can't wait for Samson to be made into a movie. It's supposed to be the sequel to 300, "3000".
There are several on the subject already.
ariastar
02-17-2008, 09:50 PM
I have two things to add to this thread.
1.) I'm an Atheist, and I don't find anything in the bible badass.
2.) Can your god do anything? Can your god create a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?
-fin-
I love the second. I'm agnostic, and I see the bible as a book of stories, some with morals to them about being good people, some that seem to exist solely to make you so afraid of this big guy in the sky that you'll kill your own children if you think you're supposed to.
The story of Moses is pretty bad-ass. One man giving up everything he had, all the luxuries one could possibly wish for, in order to bring to the lives of beaten-down slaves the freedom they deserve to have. Doesn't matter if it's Moses plugged in there, it's still a good story.
Yeah, I know there's an element of unexplained magic in half these stories, but how does that differ from a fairy tale?
nextgenxbox
02-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Hilarious. Whoever wrote these stories was pretty damn good.
maynza
02-17-2008, 10:32 PM
There are several on the subject already.
Are they gory with kickass music and slomo?
masherscf
02-17-2008, 10:41 PM
No, I see your point.
Why should an atheist need to reject the Bible. The Bible is, after all, a collection of stories. The stories are good ones. That's why they resonate through the thousands of years. Reading them requires no more willing suspension of disbelief than "Xena: Warrior Princess."
Is it hard to admit that Bible stories can be entertaining as well as thought provoking in a way that has nothing to do with how you feel about the role of spirituality in your own life?
njshadow
02-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Hilarious. Whoever wrote these stories was pretty damn good.
Yeah, I'd say the God of the universe is pretty darn good.
Yeah, I know there's an element of unexplained magic in half these stories, but how does that differ from a fairy tale?
Actually IT IS explained. It's God. Need I say more!?
masherscf
02-17-2008, 11:38 PM
Actually IT IS explained. It's God. Need I say more!?
I think it was Dumbledore!
patch
02-17-2008, 11:41 PM
I'm agnostic
Agnostic: a philosophical position stating that there can be no proof either way that God exists or doesn't exist. Agnostics believe that there may be a god, but that he/she is ultimately unknowable.
Athiest:
a person who does not believe in a god or gods. Atheism is the corresponding philosophical position. This commonly used definition does not assume any positive claim of the nonexistence of a god or gods.
Being an Atheist doesn't mean you deny the existance of a god, it just means that you don't believe in the existance of a god. Disbelief - Non-Belief - Belief. There is a middle ground, but people always seem to ignore it.
Atheism and Agnostisism are not on the same scales. Agnostisism(/Nostisism) is about knowlage, and Athism(/Theism) is about belief. Two differen't things.
I my self, being an Atheist-Agnostic, do not believe in gods, and do not think they can be proven or disproven.
I just thought I needed to clear that up. Usually when someone says they are Agnostic and nothing else its because they think Atheism, Agnostisim and Theism are on the same scales. But they're not. Even if you claim to be an Agnostic, you are an Atheist or a Theist.
patch
02-17-2008, 11:43 PM
Actually IT IS explained. It's God. Need I say more!?
You have to explain "God" tho. You can't explain a mystery with a mystery.
NJShadow, since you so boldly show your faith through your signature. Could you please tell me?
"Can your god do anything? Can your god create a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?"
masherscf
02-17-2008, 11:54 PM
I my self, being an Atheist-Agnostic, do not believe in gods, and do not think they can be proven or disproven.
That's the whole dealio, deities are axiomatic. The entire Universe can be explained consistently without a deity. If you don't accept the god axiom, disproof of god is vacuous. Observe, god doesn't exists because gods don't exists. It is a complete, consistent and logically unassailable conclusion.
If you accept the god axiom, proving the existence of a god can be actually quite easy. The only real question is what god's role is in our daily lives. Consider Deism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism), Deists believe that god exists, but takes absolutely no hand in the running of the universe.
Finding God is actually rather easy once you accept the god axiom. But, impossible without it. The axiom itself cannot be proven because that is the nature of an axiom.
ariastar
02-18-2008, 12:10 AM
Actually IT IS explained. It's God. Need I say more!?
Yes. You need to tell me convincing reasons to believe your god is there. We don't take the word of a hundred people that someone killed someone. We require proof. And I require proof. Faith is believing without proof. I have no faith. I've seen enough in my life to cause me to believe that there is not god that you believe. You blindly believe. I require proof. You can't provide that proof. Just saying to look outside or "because the bible says so" doesn't cut it. Tolkien wrote far more on Middle Earth and its history, but that doesn't make it true.
ariastar
02-18-2008, 12:13 AM
Agnostic: a philosophical position stating that there can be no proof either way that God exists or doesn't exist. Agnostics believe that there may be a god, but that he/she is ultimately unknowable.
Athiest:
a person who does not believe in a god or gods. Atheism is the corresponding philosophical position. This commonly used definition does not assume any positive claim of the nonexistence of a god or gods.
Being an Atheist doesn't mean you deny the existance of a god, it just means that you don't believe in the existance of a god. Disbelief - Non-Belief - Belief. There is a middle ground, but people always seem to ignore it.
Atheism and Agnostisism are not on the same scales. Agnostisism(/Nostisism) is about knowlage, and Athism(/Theism) is about belief. Two differen't things.
I my self, being an Atheist-Agnostic, do not believe in gods, and do not think they can be proven or disproven.
I just thought I needed to clear that up. Usually when someone says they are Agnostic and nothing else its because they think Atheism, Agnostisim and Theism are on the same scales. But they're not. Even if you claim to be an Agnostic, you are an Atheist or a Theist.
I understand the difference between the two. But Atheist-Agnostic as you describe is closer to what I believe that straight Agnosticism. I believe there could be only as far as there is no way to prove otherwise. However, starting when I was about six, I started to question. If god made everything and has always been around, who made god? How was there no beginning of time unless you travel back in time forever and ever? I asked that in Sunday school. Um, I wasn't allowed back the next week. :)
njshadow
02-18-2008, 12:16 AM
Yes. You need to tell me convincing reasons to believe your god is there. We don't take the word of a hundred people that someone killed someone. We require proof. And I require proof. Faith is believing without proof. I have no faith. I've seen enough in my life to cause me to believe that there is not god that you believe. You blindly believe. I require proof. You can't provide that proof. Just saying to look outside or "because the bible says so" doesn't cut it. Tolkien wrote far more on Middle Earth and its history, but that doesn't make it true.
I gave you tons of proof way back in the past threads I've debated this. It doesn't matter to you. You say this for the sake of argument. You've stated your position and no matter what anyone says, you won't budge. You live your life based strictly on emotions. Also NO, DO NOT say that I blindly believe because I DO NOT.
njshadow
02-18-2008, 12:17 AM
I understand the difference between the two. But Atheist-Agnostic as you describe is closer to what I believe that straight Agnosticism. I believe there could be only as far as there is no way to prove otherwise. However, starting when I was about six, I started to question. If god made everything and has always been around, who made god? How was there no beginning of time unless you travel back in time forever and ever? I asked that in Sunday school. Um, I wasn't allowed back the next week. :)
Time didn't exist. It's nearly impossible to understand that from a human standpoint.
masherscf
02-18-2008, 12:19 AM
Time didn't exist. It's nearly impossible to understand that from a human standpoint.
Yes it does? What are you talking about? If time didn't exist, we couldn't have lunch time.
Love doesn't exist.
patch
02-18-2008, 12:56 AM
That's the whole dealio, deities are axiomatic. The entire Universe can be explained consistently without a deity. If you don't accept the god axiom, disproof of god is vacuous. Observe, god doesn't exists because gods don't exists. It is a complete, consistent and logically unassailable conclusion.
If you accept the god axiom, proving the existence of a god can be actually quite easy. The only real question is what god's role is in our daily lives. Consider Deism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism), Deists believe that god exists, but takes absolutely no hand in the running of the universe.
Finding God is actually rather easy once you accept the god axiom. But, impossible without it. The axiom itself cannot be proven because that is the nature of an axiom.
What you are saying is that you have to believe in "God" to 'see that God is real'. Yeah, and you also have to believe in the little gnomes that live under my carpet to see that they are real. I will not believe that there are faries at the bottom of the garden until you show me.
You cannot explain a mystery with a mystery. It doesn't work that way. You your self said the axiom couldn't be proven, and yes I understand how axioms work, but that there destroys it. You can't explain a mystery with a mystery. You have to explain the mystery you are putting forth to prove the previous one.
I understand the difference between the two. But Atheist-Agnostic as you describe is closer to what I believe that straight Agnosticism. I believe there could be only as far as there is no way to prove otherwise. However, starting when I was about six, I started to question. If god made everything and has always been around, who made god? How was there no beginning of time unless you travel back in time forever and ever? I asked that in Sunday school. Um, I wasn't allowed back the next week. :)
So you do believe in a god then? I don't understand your stance.
DO NOT say that I blindly believe because I DO NOT.
Fine, I'll say it then. You are blindly believing. What is your proof for your belief? The bible? You have to prove that is true first. That the events claimed to have taken place in it actually happened. And just so I don't have to say any of it later. 1.) Geographical evidence placed in the book does not prove it as fact. If that were the case then The Iliad and The Odyssey are true. 2.) There are no eye witness accounts of anything that took place. We have no way of asking people who claim to have seen these events, we have no way of knowing who the authors of the texts were (the names placed on the books were placed there by the Catholic church.), there isn't even any evidence that your Jesus existed at all. 3.) Just because there are Christans, and the religion is still around, does not mean that it is true, or that any of it ever happened. If that were the case, then Islam is true, Hinduism is true, Thorism is true. Yes, people do still praise the Greek, Norse and Roman gods.
Time didn't exist. It's nearly impossible to understand that from a human standpoint.
Yeah it does; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time#Time_in_the_physical_sciences
I'm gonna have to stop my self now before any of this gets out of hand.
Aria, I would like to discuss this with you tho. If you want to, just toss me a PM or E-mail.
masherscf
02-18-2008, 01:02 AM
You cannot explain a mystery with a mystery. It doesn't work that way. You your self said the axiom couldn't be proven, and yes I understand how axioms work, but that there destroys it.
What I'm saying is that you have to accept the possibility of the existence of god, before you can believe it. I'm also saying it is possible to believe in the possibility of a god but still not be convinced of the actual existence.
The validity of any "proof" is often subject to the base axioms of a given system.
An axiom is NOT a mystery.
It is to pointless arguing about it. You might as well argue that parallel lines meet and the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line. You see, both those things are possible in a system of geometry with only slightly different axioms.
People who believe in god and people who don't believe in god live in different geometries. Both points of view are valid within each set of respective axioms.
Understand that not all people think the same. Indeed, be comforted by it. And then move on...
gonzooo
02-18-2008, 01:19 AM
Yeah, I'd say the God of the universe is pretty darn good.
You need to turn up some proof for this one to work.
Actually IT IS explained. It's God. Need I say more!?
I'd like to just tell you to GTFO, but that would probably be too rude. I'll just leave it at the fact that YES, you need to say more...
Also, stop saying you have proof when NO ONE has proof of the existence of a god.
darthender
02-18-2008, 01:19 AM
I swear you people could suck the fun out of a carnival made of ice cream.
njshadow
02-18-2008, 01:33 AM
Fine, I'll say it then. You are blindly believing. What is your proof for your belief? The bible? You have to prove that is true first.
Crap man, you don't really understand what the word "Faith" means do you? And yes, I've given many examples of how it is true (or could lead to proof that it's true) in past threads and I don't feel like re-posting them for the 1,000,000,000th time.
njshadow
02-18-2008, 01:35 AM
I'd like to just tell you to GTFO, but that would probably be too rude.
Uh, dude, you just typed it. You just lost any validity or respect in my book.
gonzooo
02-18-2008, 01:37 AM
Crap man, you don't really understand what the word "Faith" means do you?
Faith is a powerful thing. It's also irrational.
gonzooo
02-18-2008, 01:39 AM
Uh, dude, you just typed it. You just lost any validity or respect in my book.
The respect part is both expected and a bit saddening. As for the validity part, you don't seem to have that good of an eye for that sort of thing anyway...
njshadow
02-18-2008, 01:41 AM
Faith is a powerful thing. It's also stupid.
And for you "ignorance is bliss.........."
gonzooo
02-18-2008, 01:44 AM
And for you "ignorance is bliss.........."
I'd say the exact same thing about someone that chooses to shy away from rational thinking because he thinks he's got to believe.
Actually, I'm offended someone as lax with knowing things (for certain) is saying that to me. I want to know things. I study how things work because I just want to know. You, on the other hand, are content with not knowing because it makes you feel spiritually superior or something. I believe in a lot of things: I believe in myself, my friends, my family, love, that you can do pretty much anything with proper training and that being content with believing things just are because they are is extremely boring.
maynza
02-18-2008, 01:49 AM
I swear you people could suck the fun out of a carnival made of ice cream.
I'm lactose intolerant :mad:
But seriously, how about that Samson movie, that's gonna be badass.
masherscf
02-18-2008, 01:55 AM
Faith is a powerful thing. It's also stupid.
Please read (http://www.revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703), before posting again.
patch
02-18-2008, 02:11 AM
Please read (http://www.revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703), before posting again.
I fail to see how that is breaking any rules. He said faith is stupid. Not that the person who said anything about faith.
masherscf
02-18-2008, 02:17 AM
I fail to see how that is breaking any rules. He said faith is stupid. Not that the person who said anything about faith.
Perhaps, but I see that he violated these forum rules three times.
2. Creating comments about a person or group of people that is racist, threatening, insulting, abusive, etc is not allowed.
3. Be kind to other members by showing respect to their opinions and feelings. Making false claims about a person or company is prohibited. The use of the Revision3 forums is a privilege, not a right. Having a negative attitude, being a snob, and flaming will not be tolerated anywhere.
njshadow
02-18-2008, 02:56 AM
You, on the other hand, are content with not knowing because it makes you feel spiritually superior or something.
Actually pal, I've done my research. Maybe you should do some yourself if you're oh so eager to learn. Like I said, I've posted all this before in past threads. I'm not content with not knowing which is why I did my homework on this. Maybe that's why I find it quite rational. By the way, what were you talking about "not knowing"? Cause' like I said, I've done enough searching on the subject to know..
gonzooo
02-18-2008, 03:01 AM
Sorry for the comments. The aggressive tone wasn't needed.
What I said about throwing the word "ignorance" around when you're content to just believe I still stand by, though. Also, believing is one thing, claiming you have proof, yet not submit any of it in the thread, and probably redefining the word "proof" to suit this particular case is a whole nother ball game.
gonzooo
02-18-2008, 03:12 AM
Actually pal, I've done my research. Maybe you should do some yourself if you're oh so eager to learn. Like I said, I've posted all this before in past threads. I'm not content with not knowing which is why I did my homework on this. Maybe that's why I find it quite rational. By the way, what were you talking about "not knowing"? Cause' like I said, I've done enough searching on the subject to know..
You can't "know" there is a god, because to know you have to either witness it or be shown by credible sources who have in turn witnessed it. You can find no such source on this planet, and you probably never will.
Research can't be done on this particular subject because the very nature of a god that exists everywhere, yet manifests himself nowhere makes it impossible. We can't disprove him, because he might just be hiding from it, right? We can't prove him, because everything that has ever been said about a god is imaginative speculation. He might work this way, he might work that way.
Everytime you use a word such as "research", "know" and "proof" referring to this subject you undermine the actual meanings of those words. Research can't be done on something that, right now, is incomprehensible. You can't know there is a god because you can't possibly experience him without being rightfully considered delusional. You can't disprove him because there is always some kind of loophole for the existence of a god. He can always create such circumstances that make it impossible for you to disprove him, yet you can't prove him because there is, in all likelyness, nothing there.
I'd also like to stress that, as Patch mentioned it in the channel, the burden of proof lies in the believer's hands, seeing as he's the one claiming there is something there. I'm not going to bring up magic unicorns or anything like that, because you've probably heard it all before, in which case you obviously didn't want to get it.
patch
02-18-2008, 05:07 AM
Perhaps, but I see that he violated these forum rules three times.
And NJShadow called GoNZooo ignorant. ;)
And for you "ignorance is bliss.........."
darthender
02-18-2008, 11:25 AM
My beloved ice cream carnival....