Episode 16 - Studio Audio Improvements and the set of Internet Superstar [Discussion]

[travislopes]

See and hear how our audio in the studio has improved with some insulation and then get a taste of what goes into set design with Joan Howard as she walks us through what went into Internet Superstar.

Click here to watch and download the episode. (http://revision3.com/rev3gazette/soundandset/)

[sgregory416]

goood episode really enjoyed seeing the internet superstar set

[mr-underachiever]

You mean to tell me that Internet Superstar isn't really shot in Martin's mom's shed? What are you gonna tell me next--that Gator is really Jay Speiden?

Anyway, good episode. I wasn't a big fan of the set at first, so I was surprised at how intricately put together it was. I liked how they tried to incorporate all this different kinds of stuff in it.

[travislopes]

You mean to tell me that Internet Superstar isn't really shot in Martin's mom's shed? What are you gonna tell me next--that Gator is really Jay Speiden?
*gasp* At least Santa is real......right?

[firestonex]

Very injoyable episode... But I have something to say... Everyone loved last weeks episode... The style was great and the camera work worked perfectly for what was being recorded. I understand that it was a great style and it worked. There was nothing bad with using the same style on this episode, but let me explain something.. That style editing/filming works best for behind the scenes/goofing off segments. But on informative segments such as studio exploration/ discussions ---- not so much. You even used the same font as on the last episode which I didnt mind because it means that your listening to your audience, but one of the reasons I love the Gazette is because each episode can have it's unique flavor. I love the editing from the last episode. However I didn't hate the fruit club either. The sound and the furiest was also good. I like them all, not just one style of episode. I hope that just because this one perticular style works pretty well with certain content, that you guys don't get scared of doing different kinds of shows/edits.... (in fact, this is a problem I have with many tv programs.. They get scared of lossing audience, so they stick with what works without thinking outside of the box...) I hope that never happens to you guys at Revision3. I'm already sort of scared that you guys might be getting to big, to fast. --- That you might forget where you guys started from.... I am all for the little guys making it big. But when the little guys go from being big guys to a CORPORATION,,, then I get worried.

[firestonex]

*gasp* At least Santa is real......right?

Yes. His name is Scott Calvin

[firestonex]

You mean to tell me that Internet Superstar isn't really shot in Martin's mom's shed? What are you gonna tell me next--that Gator is really Jay Speiden?



DON'T BREAK THE 4TH WALL, REVISION3 GAZETTE!!!!

[murphy1d]

The Gazette is now my 3rd favorite R3 show to watch and do not want to miss one week of episodes. Nice job again.

[ryudo]

Good episode and hope they do a behind the scenes like this for tekzilla soon.

I do agree with Firestone how this ep was trying too hard to be like ep 15 with that font and stuff and every ep should have it's own feel other than that every since ep 11 Gazette has really become one of the best shows on Rev3

[ddreier]

Excellent job on this one guys! (And good on ya for crediting yourself Glenn!)

Personally I like the font, and wouldn't mind it being used for all of the R3Gs. Wouldn't mind a behind the scenes of Tekzilla too!

[brianatlarge]

The font gives it a nice little Glenn touch to it. Since it's kind of a sketchy font it makes it feel more personal and more like Glenn is actually writing nice little notes about the video to us viewers.

That sounds a little weird, but it makes sense to me.

[nextgenxbox]

The font gives it a nice little Glenn touch to it. Since it's kind of a sketchy font it makes it feel more personal and more like Glenn is actually writing nice little notes about the video to us viewers.

That sounds a little weird, but it makes sense to me.

No, not weird. You make perfect sense.

[firestonex]

The font gives it a nice little Glenn touch to it. Since it's kind of a sketchy font it makes it feel more personal and more like Glenn is actually writing nice little notes about the video to us viewers.

That sounds a little weird, but it makes sense to me.

I never thought of it like that.... Nice thought....

Though I still stick with my original post about thinking outside the box.

[ryudo]

I bet Glenns fave episode of RG is fruit club:p

[jaywilliams]

I love seeing the behind the scenes work. That's what makes The Gazette so great!

Also, is there a reason why you aren't using acoustic foam like Aralex for example? Or was that primarily a cost based decision?

[kronos6948]

Awesome job, Glenn. I take it now that you're being credited, that this is now your show?

@Dave Randolph (if you read this)...Don't some of the shows use a boom mic? I thought there were at least a couple that did.

I'm also surprised that you didn't lay out grid lines on the ceiling first, then cut all of your corners in, and then just throw equal sized squares for the rest of the ceiling stuff...it might've saved you some time. I did see that you've got some hanging pipe, but I don't know if there was a lot of it. If there was, then that method would be moot.

I'm wondering what they new Systm set will look like. I did like it when you were filming in front of the double doors (your house?), since it gave it a "This Old House" feel to it.

Glenn, loved seeing the IS set, and seeing the thought process on how it was put together.

Joan Howard's set design for IS reminds me a lot of how Joel Hodgson went dumpster diving years ago to make the set and the bots for MST3K.

Joan, if you read this, I wanna give you a big thumbs up. You want some help on figuring out how to do some arts and crafts without being "artsy"? Just pile things on that you think someone (in this case, Martin) would like...You did a great job on the sign though. I would've thought the same thing, and when you said "8 year old", it's exactly what I was saying...think like a child. Good job! I can't wait to see what you do with the outside.

@jaywilliams, the Auralex stuff costs a ton of money, so I think this was more a financial decision. They can get a lot of coverage with the stuff they used.

If worse came to worse, I would've used regular egg crate foam that you can get for your bed to at least pad the room a bit, but I don't know what frequencies it's good at blocking. I bet Dave would know.

[ddreier]

I forgot to mention in my original post, I also favor having the Rev3 "call sign" in the upper corner as opposed to the lower corner. I'm not sure if it was a test to see if anyone noticed, but as I said, I like it in the upper corner.

[tuckeratlarge]

Talking of the font, what is it called please?

[slonkak]

DON'T BREAK THE 4TH WALL, REVISION3 GAZETTE!!!!

Ummm... isn't the point of the R3G to break the 4th wall. This isn't a Shakespearean performance, it's a television set. There would be no "behind the scenes" if we didn't go behind "the 4th wall." If you are a fan of the 4th wall, don't watch the R3G. Problem solved.

[firestonex]

Ummm... isn't the point of the R3G to break the 4th wall. This isn't a Shakespearean performance, it's a television set. There would be no "behind the scenes" if we didn't go behind "the 4th wall." If you are a fan of the 4th wall, don't watch the R3G. Problem solved.


Actually I like the behind the scenes stuff and seeing the sets.. As long as they don't go into the Gator sure looks like Jay discussion....

[nextgenxbox]

Actually I like the behind the scenes stuff and seeing the sets.. As long as they don't go into the Gator sure looks like Jay discussion....

Do you think people actually believe they're two separate people? :)

Oh and Sarah already "spilled the beans" in an earlier Rev3Gazette .... forgot the exact line but she said something like "and Jay, who plays Gator, sits here..."

[arcole]

nice job on the show.

the other day i thought of what might be a funny idea do a "making of the making of one of the shows". or it could just be a really dumb idea.

[drandolph]

Awesome job, Glenn. I take it now that you're being credited, that this is now your show?

@Dave Randolph (if you read this)...Don't some of the shows use a boom mic? I thought there were at least a couple that did.

I'm also surprised that you didn't lay out grid lines on the ceiling first, then cut all of your corners in, and then just throw equal sized squares for the rest of the ceiling stuff...it might've saved you some time. I did see that you've got some hanging pipe, but I don't know if there was a lot of it. If there was, then that method would be moot.

I'm wondering what they new Systm set will look like. I did like it when you were filming in front of the double doors (your house?), since it gave it a "This Old House" feel to it.

Glenn, loved seeing the IS set, and seeing the thought process on how it was put together.

Joan Howard's set design for IS reminds me a lot of how Joel Hodgson went dumpster diving years ago to make the set and the bots for MST3K.

Joan, if you read this, I wanna give you a big thumbs up. You want some help on figuring out how to do some arts and crafts without being "artsy"? Just pile things on that you think someone (in this case, Martin) would like...You did a great job on the sign though. I would've thought the same thing, and when you said "8 year old", it's exactly what I was saying...think like a child. Good job! I can't wait to see what you do with the outside.

@jaywilliams, the Auralex stuff costs a ton of money, so I think this was more a financial decision. They can get a lot of coverage with the stuff they used.

If worse came to worse, I would've used regular egg crate foam that you can get for your bed to at least pad the room a bit, but I don't know what frequencies it's good at blocking. I bet Dave would know.

No boom mics all LAV's for us here, every once in awhile we break out the shotgun mic. Boom mics require additional operators to stand there and hold them and were so short on staff that we have one guy (usually an intern floor directs and run all 3 cameras and skype sessions)

Laying out the grid was a first idea but with I-beams and the light grid hung and piping and so forth it was going to take more time to lay a grid that would work than just hang it up chuck by chunk. (Did i mention the entire fire system and A/C cold water supply lines for the whole building complex runs thru the middle of our studio?)

Yeah the high quality foam would have been about 20k to cover the ceiling we have and the duct liner ran about 4k for the ceiling so there is a huge savings there.

The bed egg foam,,,,, I'm not sure what it will stop but usually that stuff is fairly hollow so it may not be ideal but anything is better than nothing. another good way to stop echo is moving blankets.

[kronos6948]

No boom mics all LAV's for us here, every once in awhile we break out the shotgun mic. Boom mics require additional operators to stand there and hold them and were so short on staff that we have one guy (usually an intern floor directs and run all 3 cameras and skype sessions)

Laying out the grid was a first idea but with I-beams and the light grid hung and piping and so forth it was going to take more time to lay a grid that would work than just hang it up chuck by chunk. (Did i mention the entire fire system and A/C cold water supply lines for the whole building complex runs thru the middle of our studio?)

Yeah the high quality foam would have been about 20k to cover the ceiling we have and the duct liner ran about 4k for the ceiling so there is a huge savings there.

The bed egg foam,,,,, I'm not sure what it will stop but usually that stuff is fairly hollow so it may not be ideal but anything is better than nothing. another good way to stop echo is moving blankets.

My old band put up a bunch of old moving blankets in our first practice space (a garage at a storage place-walls and ceiling were thin sheet steel and the floors were concrete!), but we didn't have enough. We started putting up pieces of carpeting, cardboard, furniture, etc. Whatever we could get our hands on. It turned out pretty good. I've seen some people use the egg crate foam before, but this was YEARS ago...I couldn't even begin to tell you what type of effect it had on the sound since I barely remember when I first saw it.

[firestonex]

Do you think people actually believe they're two separate people? :)

Oh and Sarah already "spilled the beans" in an earlier Rev3Gazette .... forgot the exact line but she said something like "and Jay, who plays Gator, sits here..."

I know she screwed up once... My brain went lala la la la .. I'm not listening!!!!through that whole segment. Alex screwed up to on the latest diggnation.. but Kevin was there to "Fix the hole that Alex put in the 4th wall"
They advertised for IS on there show. But last time they make fun of him when they did. I was hoping for a funny crack this time around, but sadly did not get one..

Jay is Gator... Ya right.. Next thing your going to tell me is that Ricky Kang is really Gator also. ;)

P.S.
The reason why I care is that truth be told, I watched Infected for quite a long time. And wail I knew that gator was not his real name, and that he didn't really live in his truck, I had no Idea that the accent wasn't his own.... and when I found that out ( oddly enough by watching an old unscrewed episode and seeing him following Martin around with a Christmas sweater) I was so shocked that I pushed those images and thoughts way down into the back of my head where I would never have to think about them again. I knew that Jay was his real name but I had know idea that it was just an act. I figured he was who he was exept that it was way over emphasised on the show to make him seem more redneck and goofy than he really was.
But I like what someone once said.. About Jay not playing Gator, but rather channeling him... That I can almost live with. :)