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doove
03-16-2008, 03:54 AM
From what I understand, X11 is required to install gimp. However, the help I've found for how to get it has been less than helpful. I guess it's on the OSX install disc? But when I tried looking it seemed to me like it would re-install the whole OS. Does anybody know what I should do?
computoman
03-16-2008, 05:59 AM
Older versions of osx will not run X11 and I think 10.5 has it or had it built in. You can still download X11 and the updates directly from apple (at least you could a few months back). Depending on the the version os osx, you may have to load the gtk modules on there also. I know when i installed gutenprint and other x11 apps on osx, I had to go through some hoops. Supposedly on the latest version of gimp, it is supposed to run natively. I know it does on ms windows and of course linux. Gimp also runs native on mac running linux. now I know why they they named the great wise nan confusius. I feel like he is trying to confuse us with detail.
slonkak
03-17-2008, 03:24 AM
Gimp also runs native on mac running linux.
WTF are you talking about? Wait, please don't answer that.
Anyway, try Fink. (http://www.finkproject.org/) It may help you with your X11 problem.
computoman
03-17-2008, 09:07 AM
Besides the new intel macs, even the new world powerpc macs can run the linux operating instead of os9 or osx. I have set up three blue g3's and an imac to run either ubuntu or debian linux and gimp installs on them directly. Rumor has it that at one time microsoft windows nt would run on the mac. Linux could also be loaded into a virtual machine on the mac under osx.
slonkak
03-17-2008, 02:00 PM
Besides the new intel macs, even the new world powerpc macs can run the linux operating instead of os9 or osx. I have set up three blue g3's and an imac to run either ubuntu or debian linux and gimp installs on them directly. Rumor has it that at one time microsoft windows nt would run on the mac. Linux could also be loaded into a virtual machine on the mac under osx.
My point was that your comment had no point. Of course GIMP will run natively in Linux, whether you install it on Dell hardware, Gateway hardware, or Apple hardware. So you saying that GIMP will run natively in linux on mac hardware was extremely redundant, because we already know that GIMP runs in linux.
proftheory
03-17-2008, 05:07 PM
My point was that your comment had no point. Of course GIMP will run natively in Linux, whether you install it on Dell hardware, Gateway hardware, or Apple hardware. So you saying that GIMP will run natively in linux on mac hardware was extremely redundant, because we already know that GIMP runs in linux.
Does that include Yellow Dog running on a PPC Mac? My understanding is that there is a different GNU/Linux kernel for PPC Macs.
Does that include Yellow Dog running on a PPC Mac? My understanding is that there is a different GNU/Linux kernel for PPC Macs.
Yes, gimp builds and is available (as an .rpm in YDs case) for PPC kernels.
slonkak
03-17-2008, 06:36 PM
Yes, gimp builds and is available (as an .rpm in YDs case) for PPC kernels.
Yup. For most things, if you can't find a binary compiled for your arch, you can get the tarball and build it yourself. Usually it's as easy as:
> ./configure
> make
# make install
# make clean
Of course, the make clean is optional, but if you're keeping the source directory it's good to do to save a few extra K.
computoman
03-17-2008, 08:58 PM
My point was that your comment had no point. Of course GIMP will run natively in Linux, whether you install it on Dell hardware, Gateway hardware, or Apple hardware. So you saying that GIMP will run natively in linux on mac hardware was extremely redundant, because we already know that GIMP runs in linux.
You are right. Of course everything will run on intel based machines, but not that many people know that linux will run on the older hardware that is powerpc based. That was my point.
computoman
03-17-2008, 09:01 PM
Power PC based macs are not intel compatible. They do not use an x86 based processor.
slonkak
03-18-2008, 03:32 AM
To sum-up for the parent, Doove, GIMP's site does not have a binary package for OSX. They do offer source tarballs, which you should be able to compile via something similar to my aforementioned instructions. However, before getting too deep into source code, I would install Fink, as it has X11 available for install, and see if it also has GIMP in it's repository. Fink would be the easiest option for you, if it works.