Episode #67 - "New York 2008" [Discussion]

[conorkilpatrick]

TRT - 00:58:29

The New York Comic Con is in iFanboy's home town, and it's packed with creators, talent and fun. It's a big show about a big show.

You want big names? How about Grant Morrison (Final Crisis, Batman), Geoff Johns (Action Comics, Green Lantern, Justice Society of America), and the legendary Neal Adams?

You want hot up and comers? Try Jason Aaron (Scalped, Wolverine, Ghost Rider), Marc Guggenheim (Amazing Spider-Man, Resurrection, Young X-Men), Andy Lanning (Nova, Annihilation Conquest), and Rebecca Donner (Burnout).

You want awesome artists? Cliff Chiang (Green Arrow & Black Canary), Mike Norton (Green Arrow & Black Canary, All New Atom), and Jamal Igle (Teen Titans, Tangent Superman) are right here.

These are the folks behind the great characters like Batman, Spider-Man, Superman, Green Lantern, Wolverine, Nova the Human Rocket, and others. If you couldn't make it to the show, this is the next best thing. Just bring your own funnel cake.

Watch the show and tell everyone what you think (http://www.ifanboy.com/podcasts/video/ifanboy_-_episode__67___new_york_comic_con_2008)

[six-gun]

Oh man! This show can't download quickly enough!

[paper]

It was Saturday and we'd finally tracked down Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns. They see the camera and, at first, they share a look of "Oh, not another interview." Then they see the ID tags. Geoff looks at Conor. "Is this the episode with the new intern?" Grant taps his shoulder and points to me. "Listen," says Grant, "I'm going to take a quick jog back to the hotel. I should be wearing a suit for this."

Or at least that's what it says in my diary.

[labor_days]

I love Neal Adams' artwork, but the man's disposition totally puts me off. Everytime I hear him speak it just rubs me the wrong way. Bit of smugness to the guy. Still phenomenal artist. Guess that's all that matters at the end of the day.

[gobo]

He's someone that's earned the right to be a bit smug.

[labor_days]

True, true. I really can't argue with that point. As I said, Adams' work is without question, phenomenal.

[gineration]

Geoff Johns is kinda hot. :D

[ronxo]

True, true. I really can't argue with that point. As I said, Adams' work is without question, phenomenal.

I have to say, I love his work too and I absolutely love his demanor, disposition and attitude - I could see how it could rub some the wrong way, but if you ask me, he's the man...

[tad]

What a fantastic episode. I've watched a lot of video coverage of the NYCC and it doesn't come close to this. every interview had substance and you talked to some guys I had never seen interviewed. Sooo much better than the stuff at other sites that concentrated on movies. (Somehow if you guys were interviewing Mike Mignola I doubt you'd start off with "So tell us about the new movie.")

Pol, great job... what? No booth babe posing? I thought that was in the job description. Neal Adams and Ron - separated by birth and thirty years? And of course the whole thing done in beautiful HD.

It seems like being in your home town helped the energy. Is that a matter of sleeping in your own beds or learning the party lessons of Wondercon. Even Josh's voice held out, just a little scratchy for the breaking of the slab. (BTW, thank you for that.)

Outstanding work. Don't let the volume of compliments make you think they're any less sincere.

[esophagus]

He takes a long time to get a point out. And yeah, I don't really like his demeanor. Oh well. Geniuses always have the get out of jail free card.

[jaflanagan]

The thing about Adams is, he's a guy from a different time. He's got a lot of Don Draper in him, truth be told. I find it fascinating. He's so damn sure of his work, and historically, he backs it up. You don't want to have to hang out with him, but he's so damned interesting to me.

Also, he's done so much good work in comics.

He's like an older Ethan Van Sciver.

[labor_days]

Yeah, but Van Sciver has a bit of humor to him. Adams, not so much*.

*I've heard Adams on other comics & non-comics podcasts. Definitely a dude with strong opinions. I just disagree with a lot of them. But yeah, the work is as good as it gets.

[paper]

Josh's voice held out. Mine did not. Usually my voice isn't nearly as deep as it is in that interview. I was so hoarse by then.

I think I was saddled with every convention malady possible. It's like I was a human shield so the guys wouldn't get WonderPlague again.

[jaflanagan]

Yeah, but Van Sciver has a bit of humor to him. Adams, not so much*.

I have interviewed both of them, and I got no humor vibe from Van Sciver.

[paper]

Adams is funny. I doubt you can see his tie, even in glorious HD. But it's covered in Tweety Birds with Santa hats.

[jaflanagan]

If you worked on comics in the 60's, you own a members only jacket, and you're awesome.

[kahunablair]

I have interviewed both of them, and I got no humor vibe from Van Sciver.

The interviews I've heard of Van Sciver all give me the same vibe, Josh.

[labor_days]

I have interviewed both of them, and I got no humor vibe from Van Sciver.
Heh, I find Van Sciver to be completely agreeable. He's having a bit of a laugh @ your expense. Cheekiness is cool with me. I don't even mind arrogance or confidence if you can bring it (EvS & Adams both).

Eh. Maybe it's just me.

[itsbecca]

I love the cadence of his story telling. It makes me smile.

[luthor]

Watching you guys destroy the CGC book was easily the highlight of my day. I've always wanted to do that. Just awesome.

[itsbecca]

Awwww Mike Norton crying at night and kinky sheep. Love it.

(And yes. Geoff Johns is quite attractive. You are correct ma'am.)

[gineration]

Awwww Mike Norton crying at night and kinky sheep. Love it.

(And yes. Geoff Johns is quite attractive. You are correct ma'am.)

I'm glad you agree. He also seems like a really great guy to interview. I'm so excited for what he has in store with Green Lantern.

[zoomturtle]

I've been watching your show for a couple of months now and this was one of the best. I have to agree with the comments about Adam's though he is an awesome artist. Keep up the good work.

[lucero]

Great show. If I ever go to a Con I'm sure I would never talk to any of these creators so it's cool to see someone else do it. I was pleased to finally see a Cliff Chiang interview. His short lived GA/BC run has turned me into a big fan. I've went back and picked up pretty much everything he's done. Needless to say, I'm excited about his Vertigo project.

Oh and Adams turned me off a bit too.

[kahunablair]

Pol is a sexy, sexy bitch.

[casually-drowned]

Pol is a sexy, sexy bitch.

Indeed.

EDIT: I am going to check out his blog at http://fuzzytypewriter.wordpress.com/

[kahunablair]

Indeed.

EDIT: I am going to check out his blog at http://fuzzytypewriter.wordpress.com/

I've hit refresh twenty times, in honor of his raspy sexy voice.

[paper]

I hate all of you equally, especially Blair.

[dave-accampo]

Indeed.

EDIT: I am going to check out his blog at http://fuzzytypewriter.wordpress.com/

Wow, what a great link! I think I shall check it out.

:D

[kahunablair]

I hate all of you equally, especially Blair.

But we love you... in soooo many ways. ;)

[casually-drowned]

But we love you... in soooo many ways. ;)

Nice. Real nice. :rolleyes:

[kahunablair]

I hear his blog is "Awesome".

[kahunablair]

I'm thinking of starting up a "I Hate Pol" thread though....

[casually-drowned]

I hear his blog is "Awesome".

You are thinking about Googling "Awesome, blogs that are".

[luthor]

I often fear how horrible the world would be without Pol in it.

[oh_caroline]

(And yes. Geoff Johns is quite attractive. You are correct ma'am.)

I third the motion.

Also, whatever you want to say about Grant Morrison, the man knows how to wear a suit. For the fans. I kind of love that about him.

[kahunablair]

I often fear how horrible the world would be without Pol in it.

Second greatest fear.

His only concern is for others. Except he hate's people in California apparently.

Edit: I love NY and this Con.

[casually-drowned]

Second greatest fear.

EDIT: Since I just finished the first Scalped trade, I really liked the interview with Jason Aaron. At the NYCC.

[dave-accampo]

I see a new intern with spin-off potential...

http://www.habitformingfilms.com/whodatintern.jpg

[luthor]

Second greatest fear.

His only concern is for others. Except he hate's people in California apparently.

Edit: I love NY and this Con.

Well, if anything were to happen we'd at least have the Fuzzy Typewriter Podcast (http://www.switchpod.com/users/fuzzytypewriter/feed.xml). With that we'd be able to hear the soothing sounds of his voice for all eternity. I find comfort in that.

[kahunablair]

Well, if anything were to happen we'd at least have the Fuzzy Typewriter Podcast (http://www.switchpod.com/users/fuzzytypewriter/feed.xml). With that we'd be able to hear the soothing sounds of his voice for all eternity. I find comfort in that.

I'll hold onto my iPod forever! It will be nothing but my two favorite things, Fuzzy Typewriter and Family Guy episodes!

[paper]

I'm curious. Is there anyone who iFanboy hasn't interviewed? What's left for future con episodes? What do you want to see?

I pose this to everybody, including Josh, Ron, and Conor.

[borderland]

I'm curious. Is there anyone who iFanboy hasn't interviewed? What's left for future con episodes? What do you want to see?

I pose this to everybody, including Josh, Ron, and Conor.

I just got into comics and ifanboy a few months back. they do a great job with the interviews. I believe that just because the interviewed someone already doesn't mean they can't do it again. The creators always have new work that can be discussed.

But, to answer the question a little better I loved the preacher series and would like to see a Garth Ennis interview.

[gobo]

Has Ellis been interviewed? If so where? I'd like to download it

[labor_days]

I think Ennis was interviewed. Early on in the show's run.


Also, Dave. Major lolz @ this...

http://www.habitformingfilms.com/whodatintern.jpg

[dave-accampo]

I like the mix of interviews with lesser knowns and the "big shots." It's cool to see people like Cliff Chiang get interviewed. Similarly, I'd love to see the guys find some new indie creator who is just putting out his/her first book, and talk to him/her about the process and what it feels like to be at a con WITH a book in hand, etc.


And, you know, I think the Neal Adams interview was really interesting. I'd love to see them interview other "legends" -- just to get that different perspective. I don't know if they ever even attend cons, but I'd love to see the guys talk to the older creators who got them into comics in the first place... Marv Wolfman, Chris Claremont, etc.

[jaflanagan]

I just got into comics and ifanboy a few months back. they do a great job with the interviews. I believe that just because the interviewed someone already doesn't mean they can't do it again. The creators always have new work that can be discussed.

But, to answer the question a little better I loved the preacher series and would like to see a Garth Ennis interview.

Done!

http://revision3.com/ifanboy/boys/

[six-gun]

Wait. Wait. Wait. I have to support Neil Young to get my next Cliff Chiang fix?

Hell. No.

[six-gun]

I'm curious. Is there anyone who iFanboy hasn't interviewed? What's left for future con episodes? What do you want to see?

I pose this to everybody, including Josh, Ron, and Conor.

Greg Rucka

[jaflanagan]

Greg Rucka

We did him on our original San Diego show, but it's certainly time for an update.

We'll get him...

[valoharth]

I like the mix of interviews with lesser knowns and the "big shots." It's cool to see people like Cliff Chiang get interviewed. Similarly, I'd love to see the guys find some new indie creator who is just putting out his/her first book, and talk to him/her about the process and what it feels like to be at a con WITH a book in hand, etc.


And, you know, I think the Neal Adams interview was really interesting. I'd love to see them interview other "legends" -- just to get that different perspective. I don't know if they ever even attend cons, but I'd love to see the guys talk to the older creators who got them into comics in the first place... Marv Wolfman, Chris Claremont, etc.

No surprise here but I agree with Dave on this, bring in the Claremont!

[six-gun]

We did him on our original San Diego show, but it's certainly time for an update.

We'll get him...

Yeah, I remember now!

He'll be at Emerald City won't he?

[luthor]

Have you guys done Erik Larsen yet? I'd really enjoy that(I'd probably be the only one).

[jaflanagan]

Have you guys done Erik Larsen yet? I'd really enjoy that(I'd probably be the only one).

We've made a couple attempts. I think Siuntres got him for Newsarama at NYCC if you wanted to see what we were missing.

[kickarse]

Awesome show... loved all the interviews and sidelines. Who would've thought Donner's hot...

[benjaminsimpson]

With the talk on this week's POTW show about the video show coming to TiVo, I was wondering if there was any plans to get the show on Xbox Live (is that possible? I don't know how easy something like that is). I'd be down to get the HD versions on my 360, that would be fantastic.

[six-gun]

Just a bit curious, when you guys go to interview say... a Neal Adams or a Grant Morrison, do they know who you are?

Like how much clout do you have?

[esophagus]

Just a bit curious, when you guys go to interview say... a Neal Adams or a Grant Morrison, do they know who you are?

Like how much clout do you have?
Grant Morrison's suit speaks volumes. :p

[jaflanagan]

Just a bit curious, when you guys go to interview say... a Neal Adams or a Grant Morrison, do they know who you are?

Like how much clout do you have?

Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. It just depends on how much into the webspace people are. Neal Adams, not so much. Grant Morrison is in his own headspace.

Our recognition level never fails to surprise us. it just depends on the person, and how awesome they are. The more awesome they are, the more likely they'll know us.

Man, that was vague wasn't it? ;)

[paper]

"IFanboy has long been my favorite site...[omitted]"

--Stan Lee

[kwok_talk]

After watching that show (great job guys & new intern!), if I was to have a man crush on a comic writer, it would probably be Geoff Johns.

[luthor]

Geoph Johns seems like he'd be a great guy to just talk comics in general with. It seems like he's really a fanboy at heart.

[esophagus]

It also seems like hes adorable.

Just sayin'.

[luthor]

So NYCC is Superbowl weekend next year? That completely writes off any chance of me going. Maybe someday.

[oh_caroline]

It also seems like hes adorable.

Just sayin'.

So Geoff Johns is now ifanboy's quasi-official collective crush-object?

Just sayin'.

[itsbecca]

So Geoff Johns is now ifanboy's quasi-official collective crush-object?

Just sayin'.

He's obviously a good looking dude, but I am intrigued at the male attention he's getting as well. Guess his charisma and muscular arms just bust through the boundaries.

So NYCC is Superbowl weekend next year? That completely writes off any chance of me going. Maybe someday.

The majority of us folk didn't even hit up the con on Sunday. I see no problem there. We could bar it and hit up the hot wings and beer man. Come on! (I have no interest in football whatsoever. But beer and hot wings? Brilliant.)

[paper]

He's obviously a good looking dude, but I am intrigued at the male attention he's getting as well. Guess his charisma and muscular arms just bust through the boundaries.



He also writes really, really good comics and seems to genuinely care about the medium. Then you get to somebody like Kirkman and he's like, "Uhhh....yeah...i'm....doing whatever....seemed like...I dunno...a good idea."

[kahunablair]

And I find Kirkman's goofiness endearing. He's the Pug of comic book writers.

[itsbecca]

He also writes really, really good comics and seems to genuinely care about the medium. Then you get to somebody like Kirkman and he's like, "Uhhh....yeah...i'm....doing whatever....seemed like...I dunno...a good idea."

Okay. I may regret saying this when all is said and done, but I'm finally starting to think Kirkman has actually been going somewhere with his UXM. But yes he is most definitley a goofball.

Also, I'm not belittling Johns' work or attitude by pointing out his good looks. Good greif sir. It's just another thing for the list.

[casually-drowned]

And I find Kirkman's goofiness endearing. He's the Pug of comic book writers.

I'm with you. Except Kirkman doesn't wheeze as much.

[luthor]

The majority of us folk didn't even hit up the con on Sunday. I see no problem there. We could bar it and hit up the hot wings and beer man. Come on! (I have no interest in football whatsoever. But beer and hot wings? Brilliant.)

Football is kind of a religious thing to my group of friends. Leaving them on the most holy of days could do irreparable damage to friendships.

[oh_caroline]

Okay. I may regret saying this when all is said and done, but I'm finally starting to think Kirkman has actually been going somewhere with his UXM.

REALLY? I'd love to hear your theory (on the thread for the book if not here). I'd like to think I've been throwing money after that comic for a reason, but I'm not optimistic. Still, I've bought every issue he's done, so that's something.

Not to say I don't find Kirkman adorable. My favorite R-Kirk quote is something like "I don't know how old I was in the 80s, I'm not good at math." And the way he fanboys Liefeld, he's not afraid to go against the grain.

[dave-accampo]

He also writes really, really good comics and seems to genuinely care about the medium. Then you get to somebody like Kirkman and he's like, "Uhhh....yeah...i'm....doing whatever....seemed like...I dunno...a good idea."

Even though I've been bashing him a little bit, I agree with your statement about Johns. He's a good craftsman, he knows comics, he knows what kind of comics he wants to make, and he definitely cares about the medium.

I really want to do an in-depth analysis of Bendis vs. Johns. I think they are both well-spoken, darlings of their respective publishers, and creators who care deeply about their art. Yet, their products are very different.

Hmmm, this might be a new thread. Or: a blog post. :D

[luthor]

Did you read this (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/042108triplethreatint.html), Dave?

[paper]

Why does Lee have to be in there?

[conorkilpatrick]

Why does Lee have to be in there?

Because it's Wizard and they are clinging mightily to the 1990s when they were relevant.

[six-gun]

He also writes really, really good comics and seems to genuinely care about the medium. Then you get to somebody like Kirkman and he's like, "Uhhh....yeah...i'm....doing whatever....seemed like...I dunno...a good idea."

I think that's just an act. But it annoys the hell out of me.

[esophagus]

I think that's just an act. But it annoys the hell out of me.this I agree with. He feels like a try-hard. Like he's putting a lot of effort into this, and pretending not to give a shit because people don't always think what he does is productive.

[itsbecca]

REALLY? I'd love to hear your theory (on the thread for the book if not here). I'd like to think I've been throwing money after that comic for a reason, but I'm not optimistic. Still, I've bought every issue he's done, so that's something.

Not to say I don't find Kirkman adorable. My favorite R-Kirk quote is something like "I don't know how old I was in the 80s, I'm not good at math." And the way he fanboys Liefeld, he's not afraid to go against the grain.

Well don't get to excited, I'm still lukewarm on the book. But for awhile when he first took over I would read each issue with a look that was half quizical, half grimace. I really questioned his direction. In the last issue things started to culminate and we're finally seeing his hand a little bit. So, good or bad, I'd say we can tell he had this planned and we can finally be assured that it wasn't just some random bumbling oddness. I just remember when I was reading it thinking back to an interview with him (I think by our boys here) where he talked about big things were going to happen. So I just thought, "Oh. Here's what he was talking about." Though my very next thought was after this bit is done and over are we getting a new writer? I thought I recalled him saying that he would be leaving after his big event, but my memory is swiss cheese.

[paper]

I see a new intern with spin-off potential...

http://www.habitformingfilms.com/whodatintern.jpg

When I see Pol the Intern, I think of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXviTWK9uRM

[oh_caroline]

Though my very next thought was after this bit is done and over are we getting a new writer? I thought I recalled him saying that he would be leaving after his big event, but my memory is swiss cheese.

This is definitely Kirkman's last issue, and I remember that interview -- I think it was from Wondercon. It's interesting that some creators' interviews give a good idea of what their work will be like, and some don't. Kirkman's probably one of the latter -- he obviously puts more craft into his stories than you'd think from hearing him (though I'm afraid UXM isn't the best example).

[dave-accampo]

Though my very next thought was after this bit is done and over are we getting a new writer? I thought I recalled him saying that he would be leaving after his big event, but my memory is swiss cheese.

IIRC, the next writer is one of the HEROES (TV show) writers.

[paper]

IIRC

...Labor?

[dave-accampo]

...Labor?

Oh good lord, has he ruined that for everyone?

[itsbecca]

IIRC, the next writer is one of the HEROES (TV show) writers.

Ahh yeah I remember hearing that. (If you can't tell I'm not one of those ear to the ground types. I don't follow news because I'm lazy and I don't read previews because I don't like getting spoiled.)

We'll see how that goes. But I'm definitely excited for a change with this damn book.

[iSteve]

Great episode. One of the best. Even better than San Diego.

Forgive my short term memory loss, but have you guys ever interviewed either Brubaker or Bendis? If not, then put them on the list.

[conorkilpatrick]

Great episode. One of the best. Even better than San Diego.

Forgive my short term memory loss, but have you guys ever interviewed either Brubaker or Bendis? If not, then put them on the list.

Brubaker, yes (http://www.ifanboy.com/podcasts/video/iFanboy_-_Episode__6___Sick_). Bendis, no.

[minithin]

Watching you guys destroy the CGC book was easily the highlight of my day.

that clip was hysterical

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/minithin/smash-fath.jpg

[oh_caroline]

Bendis, no.


Didn't Bendis leave an angry voice mail at some point, or did I dream that?

(That's a serious question. That's exactly the kind of thing I would have a dream about).

[conorkilpatrick]

Didn't Bendis leave an angry voice mail at some point, or did I dream that?

(That's a serious question. That's exactly the kind of thing I would have a dream about).

He called and left one about Darrel slamming his book. He threw down the gauntlet on Darrel who never picked it up.

[oh_caroline]

He called and left one about Darrel slamming his book. He threw down the gauntlet on Darrel who never picked it up.

Man, you guys should host that for charity. Darrel vs. Bendis, throwdown.

[esophagus]

Does annnnyone have an episode number for that? I'm guessing it was pre-me listening regularly. Darrel is my favorite. Bendis might one-up him.

[conorkilpatrick]

Does annnnyone have an episode number for that? I'm guessing it was pre-me listening regularly. Darrel is my favorite. Bendis might one-up him.

Episode #109 (http://www.ifanboy.com/podcasts/audio/Man_Can_Only_Talk_About_So_Many_Books_on_the_iFanb oy_Pick_of_the_Week_Podcast_Episode__109).

[esophagus]

Episode #109 (http://www.ifanboy.com/podcasts/audio/Man_Can_Only_Talk_About_So_Many_Books_on_the_iFanb oy_Pick_of_the_Week_Podcast_Episode__109).
Nope, I was listening then. How do I not remember this?

[jaflanagan]

Nope, I was listening then. How do I not remember this?

Too much awesome? Your brain couldn't handle its retention. A safety mechanism.