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bredrenisedp
04-26-2008, 07:03 PM
From techradar

11 Signs you're no longer a hardcore gamer



1. You prefer playing against the computer

Online gaming against real people has become depressing – it exposes your faded, spoon-sharp reflexes and you abhor the trash-talk from 12-year old fanboys. You prefer playing offline against the computer because a game's algorithms are slightly more predictable. And, once you master the scripted patterns of play, you stand a real chance of being good… of actually winning. And that feels great, doesn't it? Ranking second-bottom on a multiplayer leader board doesn't.

2. You only play when your girlfriend is out

Because you only have one high-def TV and to play videogames on it while she's at home is 'selfish' and not something the two of you can do 'together'.

3. You believe that winning isn't everything

It's the taking part that counts. Obviously. And that's not because you're not good at games. You are. But you've found that there's more to life than spending five hours every night killing all of the Templars in Assassin’s Creed. The fact that you can't find the last three Templars is irrelevant.

4. It's been days, not hours since you last switched on your console

Because things keep getting in the way: TV, movies, books, going out to restaurants, shopping, going down the pub, DIY, dinner parties, the gym, more DIY, your girlfriend/wife/boyfriend [delete as applicable]… oh, and having a job.

5. You’re the oldest person trading in games at GameStation

So you lie about why you’re there. "It’s, ahem, my son's birthday. I'd like to trade these in for Guitar Hero please…"

6. You like your Xbox 360 and your PS3 equally

Being a more 'mature' gamer means you have more disposable income, so you can afford the luxury of owning a PS3 and an Xbox 360. So you've become the gaming equivalent of the United Nations, calming accepting the virtues of both consoles to the deaf ears of Xbox zealots and Sony fanboys (who simply ignore you and carry on their slanging match regardless). Because when you stare at those side-by-side game comparison shots on CVG, you can't see the difference. Maybe the PS3 palette is lighter… maybe… Of course, your eyesight could be failing…

7. You fondly remember a ‘golden age’ of gaming

You lament the current glut of videogame sequels and often talk fondly of an innovative 'golden age' of gaming. You remember Manic Miner, good ‘ol Chuckie Egg and the Ultimate games on the ZX Spectrum. You played Sensible Soccer the first time around on the Amiga, Elite on your mate’s BBC B, and finished Sonic The Hedgehog on the Megadrive. Happy days… But when modernised versions of these gaming classics turn up on Xbox Live, your excitement quickly evaporates. You quickly realise that, by today’s standards, those cherished oldies are now shallow, repetitive and not much fun.

8. You avoid playing on the Wii because it’s too much effort

There's no denying that the Nintendo Wii is a revolutionary games machine but… well, it does require a lot of effort. Aren't there times when you just want to slouch into a comfy sofa with a traditional joypad? Times when you can't be arsed with all that wiimote waving and waggling? It's way too energetic – a 20 minute bowling session in Wii Sports is almost akin to a full workout.

9. Your FPS experience consists of spawn, run, die... spawn, run, die... spawn…

The reflexes that served you so well in GoldenEye and Quake seem to be two seconds slower than everybody else these days. You think 'fire', 'jump', 'spin', 'run', 'collect spinny power-up', but your fingers press 'fire' (and pause), 'fire' (and pause), 'spin' and… no, I actually meant 'jump', and – oh, I’m dead. Either you're slowing down, or today's hard-core gamerati are faster than you ever were.

10. You find the idea of videogames based on board games perfectly acceptable

Anyone for a game of Carcassonne tonight? The wife's out until 10pm and I'll be online after I've had my dinner…

11. You've pre-ordered GTA IV but don't mind if it doesn't turn up on launch day

Wednesday's just fine. Really. You're a bit busy at the moment, anyway. In fact, you probably won't get a chance to play GTA IV until the weekend. You're also not bothered by the prospect of downloading the DLC for GTA IV either. You'll never finish the main game anyway


Owch I feel kinda old now

dolson
04-26-2008, 07:25 PM
Wow, not one of those applies to me.. I am kinda surprised. :)

forthekids85
04-26-2008, 07:57 PM
Son of a bitch.. this is a blow to the ego.

With the exception of the whole board game one, I fit the mold. I'd type more, but the girlfriend's out and I have time to play games.

potatohead
04-26-2008, 07:57 PM
Oh my Gods ... I'm a Cylon! ... I mean ... Casual Gamer! Nuuuuuuu!

tokenuser
04-26-2008, 09:28 PM
Sad but true :(

BUT, I *WILL* get a PS3 with my Bush Bucks --- for the BluRay player of course ;) ... well thats what the wife thinks ... little does she know about GT.

nikole
04-26-2008, 09:40 PM
Wow...way to burst my bubble, I guess I'm in between casual and xcore. But I think the term "casual gamer" is used to loosely. I still fancy myself xcore tho...

blacksymbiote
04-26-2008, 10:24 PM
If you take those "signs" and figure out what an actual hardcore gamer must be like, than I would never want to be a hardcore gamer. hahaha, loser 15 year old kids.

MaxTheSilent
04-26-2008, 10:25 PM
Good Lord! That's me to a 'T'. Especially the part about losing interest in online gaming.

forthekids85
04-26-2008, 10:42 PM
If you take those "signs" and figure out what an actual hardcore gamer must be like, than I would never want to be a hardcore gamer. hahaha, loser 15 year old kids.

I was thinking the same thing.. sounds like the impatient, disrespectful asshole kids at the mall who think they deserve all of the gadgets their parents buy them.

nuyawka
04-26-2008, 10:49 PM
I am old...

bobafettjm
04-26-2008, 10:57 PM
This list is ridiculous. Liking both the 360 and the PS3 the same means your not a hardcore gamer? really? It seems to me like favoring one system would be more like an anti-hardcore thing to do.

tamtamg
04-26-2008, 11:47 PM
i think i'm the one "gamer" who hasn't pre-ordered gta IV or plan on buying it at launch

dolson
04-26-2008, 11:58 PM
i think i'm the one "gamer" who hasn't pre-ordered gta IV or plan on buying it at launch

Nope, looks like there's two of us.

damnedeyez
04-27-2008, 01:04 AM
If you take those "signs" and figure out what an actual hardcore gamer must be like, than I would never want to be a hardcore gamer. hahaha, loser 15 year old kids.


What he said.

I think the only one on the list that doesn't fit me is 8...the Wii thing.

zaphod81
04-27-2008, 01:10 AM
Thanks for reminding me how old I am....

Oh well at least it looks like I am not the only old guy here.

az0madman
04-27-2008, 01:17 AM
:( Dear god... I'm not even out of college and already most of them apply to me. I miss the days when I actually had nothing but time to play.

stubadub
04-27-2008, 02:35 AM
Wow, way too many of those apply to me. It's not like I didn't already realize I wasn't a hardcore gamer anymore, but it is shocking how many of those were right on the money.

I do play games while my wife is home and awake, but that is only on my pre-approved gaming night when I have my permission. You young and single people be warned, one day you will be whipped too!

scootman
04-27-2008, 04:35 AM
WOO...none of those apply to me. i feel good *queue james brown song*

dstrack007
04-28-2008, 03:16 PM
"The last two times you logged into the Xbox was to play "Scene It"... which sadly applies to me this weekend ;-) [Defense: Wife's fault]

masherscf
04-28-2008, 03:25 PM
How about,

"Your 4-year old daughter picks up the spare controller and sits in your lap while you try and play."

"Despite the fact that your PS3 is running for most of the day, you have yet to purchase any games for it."

kickarse
04-28-2008, 03:30 PM
ALL of these could only apply to two types of people, those with no jobs and those that have a job in the gaming industry.

For the rest of us people that have lives it's hard to weigh gaming in with responsibilities like going to work, "gee I should take today off to play some GT5 Prologue". Or doing something beneficial like sleeping, "I can still work for 12 hours with two hours of sleep". You get the idea.

I used to be a "hardcore" gamer when I had no responsibilities. And when I snowboarded or mountain biked I didn't care if I broke a limb or two. Now I need to work to provide for my family. I can't take the luxury of no sleep or a broken limb.

fraggle35
04-28-2008, 04:01 PM
Nope, looks like there's two of us.

Make that three.

-mk-
04-28-2008, 04:08 PM
(looks at 3-month old and Xbox 360 with dust on it)

Yep...I'm old.

gglynn00
04-28-2008, 07:30 PM
I'm neither hardcore or casual...is there such a thing as a softcore gamer? Kinda like the difference between Cinamax and real porn...:D

andyaldrich
04-28-2008, 07:50 PM
It's not that I'm not a hardcore gamer, I'm just a bad gamer. Here is an example:

I come to fight the first big daddy in Bioshock. I do not take the time to reload all of my weapons before taking my first shot at him by unloading the machine gun. I zap him with the electric plasmoid and take out my machine gun to reload it and I'm so bad at video games that I cannot complete a full reload without him smacking me about.

When it comes to games I am a complete piece of crap. I try strafing, jumping, strafing and jumping whilst turning to keep my eye on the enemy. I try doing these things whilst going backwards to keep a distance from enemies but for some reason I am the worst gamer on the planet.

I am the loser who is at the bottom of your tables when it comes to kills and I swear I have tried it all.

gglynn00
04-28-2008, 08:13 PM
(looks at 3-month old and Xbox 360 with dust on it)

Yep...I'm old.

Ahh, just wait until your baby gets older and can beat you at the newest games...That's when you really feel old. My 4 year old son beats the crap out of me @ New Super Mario Bros on DS

potatohead
04-28-2008, 08:23 PM
It's not that I'm not a hardcore gamer, I'm just a bad gamer. Here is an example:

I come to fight the first big daddy in Bioshock. I do not take the time to reload all of my weapons before taking my first shot at him by unloading the machine gun. I zap him with the electric plasmoid and take out my machine gun to reload it and I'm so bad at video games that I cannot complete a full reload without him smacking me about.

When it comes to games I am a complete piece of crap. I try strafing, jumping, strafing and jumping whilst turning to keep my eye on the enemy. I try doing these things whilst going backwards to keep a distance from enemies but for some reason I am the worst gamer on the planet.

I am the loser who is at the bottom of your tables when it comes to kills and I swear I have tried it all.

It's okay to be bad. The question is did you have fun at least?

kevie
04-28-2008, 08:26 PM
Man when i read the title it was like this wont be me....but alas im am all of it.......I can even add one
"12) You're so behind on gaming you play next gen consoles at your cousin's house when theres a family gathering"

initiallaw
04-28-2008, 08:52 PM
50% Apply to me, and I am fairly young. :)

lmcclurk
04-29-2008, 02:19 AM
So basically if you have any kind of life outside of gaming then you're not hardcore. Well I guess I haven't been a hardcore gamer since I was about 12 then.

zaphod81
04-29-2008, 02:22 AM
I guess if you replace hardcore gamer with Gaming Junkie then that list is more accurate...

andyaldrich
04-29-2008, 12:22 PM
It's okay to be bad. The question is did you have fun at least?

Yeah, even though I am bad at games I have fun when I'm playing them. I grew up mostly playing Wing Commander games on my PC and never really got into many console games after owning a NES and a SNES, so I suck royally at first person shooters using a controller.

I will soon buy myself the XBox Arcade Wing Commander game and hopefully find out that I actually gained some skills at those games, rather than wasting years while everyone else became good at Timesplitters and Goldeneye :)

masherscf
04-29-2008, 01:25 PM
(looks at 3-month old and Xbox 360 with dust on it)

Yep...I'm old.

That doesn't mean you're not a hardcore gamer. That just mean you're a slob...

gi_josh
04-29-2008, 02:15 PM
Hey!!! Carcassonne is a fun game!

stranger_danger
04-30-2008, 07:17 AM
This list makes no sense. How does being the oldest person trading in games at a game shop make you not hardcore? Doesn't that just make you the oldest person trading in games? Fondly remembering a golden age of gaming means you're not hardcore? Oh, I see. Only youngsters and alzheimer's patients, lacking a fond remembrance of Ms. Pac-Man, can be considered hardcore. Avoiding the Wii? Isn't Nintendo gunning for the casual market with that system? According to this list, I've never been hardcore because my FPS skills consist of spawn, run, die. They always have, and they always will.

I still play Rocket Arena 3 on a regular basis, but because I suck I'm not hardcore.

ariastar
04-30-2008, 09:37 AM
3. You believe that winning isn't everything

Oh my god I'm highly competitive. I could be a guy in that way. When I play, I play to win. Period. Wanna see me really bitchy? See me when I'm losing.

njshadow
04-30-2008, 12:50 PM
Oh my god I'm highly competitive. I could be a guy in that way. When I play, I play to win. Period. Wanna see me really bitchy? See me when I'm losing.

Ha ha yeah I know. Even though I kind of hate it, I've had to hinder my skills at times because I win too much. Usually if I keep winning, the person I go against ends up leaving so I have to purposefully lose sometimes which I hate to do. Other than that people say "C'mon, as long as your having fun! That's what matters!". Well, winning is fun! :D:D:D:D

gi_josh
04-30-2008, 02:15 PM
Ha ha yeah I know. Even though I kind of hate it, I've had to hinder my skills at times because I win too much. Usually if I keep winning, the person I go against ends up leaving so I have to purposefully lose sometimes which I hate to do. Other than that people say "C'mon, as long as your having fun! That's what matters!". Well, winning is fun! :D:D:D:D

Video Games: Ruining friendships since 1984.

forthekids85
04-30-2008, 03:54 PM
Ha ha yeah I know. Even though I kind of hate it, I've had to hinder my skills at times because I win too much. Usually if I keep winning, the person I go against ends up leaving so I have to purposefully lose sometimes which I hate to do. Other than that people say "C'mon, as long as your having fun! That's what matters!". Well, winning is fun! :D:D:D:D

On more than one occasion, a friend has left my house swearing -- after throwing a 360 controller on the floor. Mostly because of Madden, but other sports games as well... If the games make it to half time without someone getting pissed off at me, I consider it a miracle. I've tried purposely losing, too.. but then I get too competitive and try to make a big comeback, which just pisses them off more.

It evens out, though, when they shoot me in the head over and over in any shooting game... ever.

gi_josh
04-30-2008, 10:34 PM
It evens out, though, when they shoot me in the head over and over in any shooting game... ever.

Which sounds way more fun than stupid Madden.

decepticon
05-05-2008, 01:24 AM
Nice list...I don't consider myself *that* hardcore, but none on that list apply to me either...oh well.

lnknpk04
05-05-2008, 02:10 AM
From techradar

10. You find the idea of videogames based on board games perfectly acceptable

Anyone for a game of Carcassonne tonight? The wife's out until 10pm and I'll be online after I've had my dinner…


techradar just touched the f'ing stove on that one. When I saw that my favorite board game ever was on xbox live I was so excited. Its an awesome board game, and the fact that once I get a 360 I can play w/ my friend 1000+ miles away is awesome. Shame on you techradar :)

poltah
05-05-2008, 09:24 AM
I'm 20, and that list made me feel old.