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travislopes
04-29-2008, 01:23 AM
Now that David Randolph is gone, where should the show go? No idea is too big or too small. Throw out any suggestions you have so we can figure out how to compensate for the absence of Randolph.

scienceking
04-29-2008, 01:28 AM
I don't know, it would depend on the next cohost. But I think its best to go where the hosts and producers are most comfortable and experienced, and to go for quality over frequency or length.

md2389
04-29-2008, 01:31 AM
How bout something a little more hardcore. (ie: something akin to the mame cabinet) You've got the versa-laser for a little while longer, so you could use it to build yourself a custom-designed PC case. (and to justify using the versa-laser, go crazy with it...ala Yoshi style.)

Perhaps on a future episode, some quick and easy survival tools you can whip up from household stuff in the event of a disaster. (ie: tornado, hurricane, etc)

capture_db
04-29-2008, 01:58 AM
Perhaps one of the next projects could be making something that can run from a usb or firewire connection, like your own usb sound card/analog to digital converter. That way you get both the hardware of making the device and the software or getting drivers/writing drivers

poly_ee_kid
04-29-2008, 02:43 AM
Hey all, I am brand new to the Rev3 boards. I've been watching Systm for a while now and I never miss and episode. I think the format is great and Pat ( and whoever else decides to join) do a great job.

I'd love to see a show on cable management. I k now we all have many cluttered cables around out desks and I think it would be cool if the Systm folk could show us some ideas on how to manage the cable craziness.

Glad to be here! I hope I get the chance to post a lot!

-V

zorgul
04-29-2008, 03:49 AM
Keep it like it is with a different co-host.

Systm is my favorite show on Revision3.

I never did one of your projects and never intend to but I like to watch you building stuff!

ddreier
04-29-2008, 03:59 AM
I'd like to see Pat, and someone to build a full jib arm camera crane, panning and tilting the camera too. (I might make that just for the heck of it)

Also, I'm still leaning towards a CNC machine!

tokenuser
04-29-2008, 04:02 AM
Now that David Randolph is gone, where should the show go? No idea is too big or too small. Throw out any suggestions you have so we can figure out how to compensate for the absence of Randolph.How about we let Rev3 figure that one out? Not all projects involved Pat and Dave.

serafina
04-29-2008, 05:59 AM
How about we let Rev3 figure that one out? Not all projects involved Pat and Dave.

But we want viewer input!

drandolph
04-29-2008, 06:04 AM
She would rock! After all she learned how to use the versalaser from the best so she is over due to be on the show.

tuxotaku
04-29-2008, 06:26 AM
She would rock! After all she learned how to use the versalaser from the best so she is over due to be on the show.

I say go for it Serafina!

scienceking
04-29-2008, 06:29 AM
Another nomination of Serafina from me. I think it could be interesting at least.

serafina
04-29-2008, 06:37 AM
Hah! If anything, Patrick would have to teach me as we go through the steps. Female cohosts get enough flack for not knowing their stuff... I dont want to add to the stereotype. I'm better behind the camera anyway.

victor_c26
04-29-2008, 06:47 AM
If only for one episode to test the water out a bit if you would like. It wouldn't hurt.

And for a suggestion: It may be considered "Too much/Too big", but still worth throwing the suggestion through.

Making a computer build that would make you [and your friends] feel just like you're [they're] at the theater.

And when I say this, I don't just mean an HTPC, but a fully automated system that controls room light dimming, background music from your music library, screen shots of the artist that's currently playing, and maybe even those little trivia screens that show up in most theaters.

It would be a fun project to watch and actually go through step by step along with the show.

Just thinking of the software alone makes me think this might be too much though.

sodonnel
04-29-2008, 10:44 AM
First: Patrick needs to wear more man-kilts!

Second: The only reason to watch System for me has been to see Patrick have my dream job.

Third: While I love David's segments and will miss him, Patrick is the reason I watch. It's like watching one of the guys I hang with, talk about the silly and great projects he is working on.

Fourth: Since Tek has the filled the void left by my all-time favorite show ever (Yes, Me and Paul Allen were the only one watching TechTV's Screensavers, and unfortunatly I couldn't keep covering costs once Paul's interests wained), let's keep this show diffrent. Systm should be about the projects, the hardware. Lets be artistic: Tear things apart to see how they work and tell us how to put things together!

imagitronics
04-29-2008, 12:24 PM
For me, what has always set Systm apart from the other Rev3 shows was it's focus on hardware. My personal favorite episodes include (but are not necessarily limited to):
Episode 30 - Voltage Regulators: Breadboarding a DIY USB Power Supply,
Episode 23 - Motion Activated Silly String Shooter,
Episode 22 - Under the Sea with an R.O.V.,
Episode 19 - Amps and Violence,
Episode 18 - Obey the Laws (of Power),
Episode 15 - PCB Etching,
Episode 12 - AVR101.

You get my point. I would love to see Systm delve deeper into the electronics hobbyist arena and leave the standard "PC" hacks like water-cooling, case modding, and firewalls to other Rev3 shows.

A series on the arduino micro controller might help cheer me up about this whole situation!

Thanks for listening. Take care, and good luck.
Tim

secret-steve-crumbles
04-29-2008, 12:50 PM
How about we let Rev3 figure that one out? Not all projects involved Pat and Dave.Woa there tough guy. That was a quote from the show, not him saying that.

tokenuser
04-29-2008, 12:55 PM
Woa there tough guy. That was a quote from the show, not him saying that.As was pointed out elsewhere. Working to a deadline, and have *gasp* yet to watch Systm this week, I didn't hear/see Pat say this yet. Threads like this generally start out as trolling, devolve into "what did JLo do to piss off <insert name>", and go nowhere fast.

Pat asking the quesiton is a different story.

kronos6948
04-29-2008, 01:07 PM
I agree with Imagitronics. Stick with the hardware type stuff.

I've never built my own PC, but I am looking to do so before 2009.

With that said, the last two shows were definitely my favorite Systm eps (along with the MAME cabinet).

@ Dave Randolph...Good luck in your new endeavour. Hopefully you will be able to stop by for a Systm ep or two.

coffeemonster
04-29-2008, 02:55 PM
Tekzilla and systm are obiously closely linked, but I think systm should focus on being more teknical and take more time for individuel reviews of products. Say systm where to review screens, then get 3-5 different screens in to the studio and review them properly. Tekzilla is to fast paced and I rarely get any truely usefull information... So please make systm a show with alot of time for proper reviews and "how to's"

charlas
04-29-2008, 05:34 PM
How about a series of episodes on home security? setup camera's infra-red, motion, pressure etc, that would be a blast (and fun/cheapish/extensible project). Could also get into the whole offensive defense stuff with the motion tracking robot's etc.

Would be a hoot!

whitman55
04-29-2008, 06:28 PM
i would prefer to systm keep away from instaling kits like the watercooling cooling episode and stay with doing multiple episode build from scratch projects (tennis ball cannon, MAME cabinet, diy robot) some intresting things to see systm build could include:

cnc router
cnc lathe
home control (x10 or somthing more home brew)

its also nice to see quick projects such as waterproofing a flash drive

burkhartmj
04-29-2008, 07:03 PM
Being the complete computer nerd I am, I actually preferred the PC eps recently. As long as Systm sticks to hardware, I don't mind that hardware being of the computer variety. the multi-ep stuff like the mame cabinet didn't really interest me because they were harder to follow and about something I would never even consider doing. I'd say just keep mixing it up to keep everyone happy.

sparky42
04-29-2008, 11:48 PM
How about the folks at revision3 get together a contest for all the faithful fans.

Just a couple ideas:

Cook up your best ideas, submit them. This can be something you've already done. Pictures will help.

Contestants get to vote for anything but their own projects.

In order to vote, you must have a project submitted.

Then the winner gets to spend a day at Rev3 and show off their project on Systm.

dom
04-30-2008, 12:23 AM
I never did one of your projects and never intend to but I like to watch you building stuff!

This is absolutely key to Systm.

Most of us will never build the projects, but they can still be inspirational, informative and fun.

So keep it technical, don't dumb it down. Always try to finish projects and show the finished product in action. Don't be overly concerned about showing every repetitive, minute detail, but do keep giving extensive, detailed show notes for those more interested in following through.

As for a co-host, I'd say go with someone technical. Preferably someone new - I'm all for saving the environment, but Rev3's policy of recycling show hosts means I sometimes forget what I'm watching.

cheap-geek
04-30-2008, 12:58 AM
I have always enjoyed the way that systm has kept things realistic. They don't announce that they will paint their macbook pro and then show five minutes of flawless work only to show a perfectly painted macbook. The thing I think that sets systm apart is the fact that you get to see projects being built without all of the mistakes edited out. Regardless of who is the new co-host, they need to stick with the raw how to stuff.

samureye
04-30-2008, 05:03 AM
I say we have Patrick do the show with himself, green screen style. Then, have a little sound ding when Pat does something he usually does so we know to take a drink for a yet to be specified drinking game. I can see many people being drunk taking sip after sip when Patrick says "I like that thought."

axekickmechanic
04-30-2008, 06:41 AM
Eh, Theres already a drinking show and its called diggnation i think pat should host with leo laporte..they were like the dream team on call for help :D

cryogen97
04-30-2008, 07:27 AM
Definatly should be a little more hardcore than the average tech show. Something to aspire too on a weekend project kind of thing. Hmmm....kinda like makezine I guess.

justin316a
04-30-2008, 10:01 AM
Hah! If anything, Patrick would have to teach me as we go through the steps. Female cohosts get enough flack for not knowing their stuff... I dont want to add to the stereotype. I'm better behind the camera anyway.

Actually that is an idea as well, you could be HONESTLY asking questions about how to do this stuff, from a more basic beginners point-of-view. There's technically nothing wrong with the notion that we could run with the idea of teaching not only some advance stuff, but learning about the beginner's point-of-view at the same time.

Now I know some may complain about this because they want to make sure Systm stays the more "advanced" show than Tekzilla, but some stuff I have to push myself to keep up with (I think that's mostly cause I buried myself in WoW for 4 years after TechTV and am just now learning Web 2.0 stuff after finding Rev3)

An example is some simple stuff. I want to build a lightsaber from Neha's segment on popSiren and add in alittle of Kiki's LED experiment (plus a few YouTube sources.) I can handle the designing and fabrication, but it's the internal workings I'd have no clue on. Soldering, how to program sound FX into chips, adding motion sensors, proper voltage and amps. A laymen's perspective from the ground up on that would actually add alot. But that's just me.

miken
04-30-2008, 05:28 PM
This is absolutely key to Systm.

Most of us will never build the projects, but they can still be inspirational, informative and fun.

So keep it technical, don't dumb it down. Always try to finish projects and show the finished product in action. Don't be overly concerned about showing every repetitive, minute detail, but do keep giving extensive, detailed show notes for those more interested in following through.

As for a co-host, I'd say go with someone technical. Preferably someone new - I'm all for saving the environment, but Rev3's policy of recycling show hosts means I sometimes forget what I'm watching.

I completely agree with this post. But, if you want to recycle a host use someone who has some tech cred, not just a pretty face. I also appreciate Serafina's response that she doesn't want to get flak for being too "untechnical".

I enjoy Patrick's hosting style and showing the completed projects, even those with a few glitches (it would have been both fun and instructive if Patrick addressed the too noisy fan in the completed watercooled project by tearing it out and being really pissed-off about having to re-install something quieter--after all, we've all had the same experience with projects that didn't go our way and he did spend some time at the beginning of the show talking about how annoying noise can be.).

The high quality of the show's production (and how pretty it looks in HD) and my voyeuristic interest in the projects keep me watching every week.

md2389
04-30-2008, 05:32 PM
Hah! If anything, Patrick would have to teach me as we go through the steps. Female cohosts get enough flack for not knowing their stuff... I dont want to add to the stereotype. I'm better behind the camera anyway.

I dunno, I think you would be welcome on Tekzilla. :) Theres nothing wrong with not knowing technical details as long as you don't act like a ditz. Ask questions. :)

bandit
04-30-2008, 11:36 PM
All i know i hope Systm Stays!

Its like hanging out with your friends on the weekend and building something for the heck of it lol :)
This is one of the first shows i really cant wait to dload and watch.
well this and TekZilla :cool:

I say as long as you keep doing what your doing, I will Keep watching :)
Theres so many crappy Tech shows on now adays that its Very hard to Find one where i dont know everything thing better then the host lol.

I used to Watch Patrick on TechTV all the time way back when and as soon as he was gone... By By techTV..

toadx
05-01-2008, 03:11 AM
Please keep Systm on track after Dave is gone! This is a quote from him on the Revision 3 Gazette where he explains what Systm is supposed to be about:

that's kind of what I've always wanted to do with Systm was it's entirely about doing something that that thing wasn't intended to do. It was about exploring technology, exploring electronics, exploring computers and software and looking for what they do other than what they're intended to do. You know, I mean claw games with remotes, Internet connections, hacking Apple TV's...

Please keep Systm this way!

toadx
05-01-2008, 03:15 AM
This is absolutely key to Systm.

Most of us will never build the projects, but they can still be inspirational, informative and fun.

So keep it technical, don't dumb it down. Always try to finish projects and show the finished product in action. Don't be overly concerned about showing every repetitive, minute detail, but do keep giving extensive, detailed show notes for those more interested in following through.

As for a co-host, I'd say go with someone technical. Preferably someone new - I'm all for saving the environment, but Rev3's policy of recycling show hosts means I sometimes forget what I'm watching.

I totally agree! Please keep it technical and don't dumb it down! For a new co-host, please add someone technical. Preferably with at least as much knowledge as Dave has.

toadx
05-01-2008, 03:38 AM
For me, what has always set Systm apart from the other Rev3 shows was it's focus on hardware. My personal favorite episodes include (but are not necessarily limited to):
Episode 30 - Voltage Regulators: Breadboarding a DIY USB Power Supply,
Episode 23 - Motion Activated Silly String Shooter,
Episode 22 - Under the Sea with an R.O.V.,
Episode 19 - Amps and Violence,
Episode 18 - Obey the Laws (of Power),
Episode 15 - PCB Etching,
Episode 12 - AVR101.

You get my point. I would love to see Systm delve deeper into the electronics hobbyist arena and leave the standard "PC" hacks like water-cooling, case modding, and firewalls to other Rev3 shows.

A series on the arduino micro controller might help cheer me up about this whole situation!

Thanks for listening. Take care, and good luck.
Tim

I completely agree here. I'd love to see Systm go deeper into the elecronics hobbyist area. I'd also love to see a series on the Arduino, but my only problem with it is that it uses the proprietary Arduino language. Rather than code in the Arduino language, I'd rather see direct use of the ATmega8 chip. Either way, I'd rather see topics much more like building stuff with the Arduino board rather than overclocking, watercooling and case modding.

theinternetftw
05-01-2008, 06:16 AM
One thing i think a lot of people would be able to try on their own (and would still be fairly "hardcore")
would be the various wiimote hacks. Some are very impressive (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/245), as well as feasible for the audience.

imagitronics
05-01-2008, 08:05 AM
Excellent idea. I would really love an episode of Systm about wiimote hacks.

On another note. Our good friend Dave Randolph recently had this to say on twitter:


Seriphena says if enough people convincer her she will host an episode of systm. http://snipurl.com/26ldx

serafina
05-01-2008, 11:22 PM
Haha, well, not host it, but if people agree with Justin:

Actually that is an idea as well, you could be HONESTLY asking questions about how to do this stuff, from a more basic beginners point-of-view. There's technically nothing wrong with the notion that we could run with the idea of teaching not only some advance stuff, but learning about the beginner's point-of-view at the same time.

Now I know some may complain about this because they want to make sure Systm stays the more "advanced" show than Tekzilla, but some stuff I have to push myself to keep up with (I think that's mostly cause I buried myself in WoW for 4 years after TechTV and am just now learning Web 2.0 stuff after finding Rev3)

then I'd think about it. :)

peterbokunet
05-04-2008, 04:04 AM
Can the show be more 2600-like rather than PCMagazine? Does that make sense or too oblique? Maybe that summarizes what others said before me?

thezach
05-04-2008, 11:06 AM
I'd love to see a show on cable management. I k now we all have many cluttered cables around out desks and I think it would be cool if the Systm folk could show us some ideas on how to manage the cable craziness.


I think cable managment would be a great SubSystm episode, all the commercial products are way to expenisve and right now I'm using twist ties and there kinda annoying.

highjive
05-04-2008, 06:45 PM
I think a few episodes on home intergration of diffrent techs out there or self build
or how to make life a little easier with diffrent devices might have

dodgerrob
05-05-2008, 03:22 AM
I would love some projects like making solar cells from scratch, and setting up panels for home use. I would also like a to see Patrick make a hydro ram pump (requires no power other than gravity).

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