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ariastar
11-14-2006, 08:36 PM
This isn't meant to be a plug, but check this (http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Why_Women_Are_Exposing_Themselves/) out. I came by this link on a site I was reading for entertainment last night. Granted, the "entertainment" angered me a bit, saying that people who play video games are ruining their lives, that by having fun we are ruining our lives, etc. (I kid you not, video games and having fun and using cell phones and e-mail are apparently large reasons for why our lives suck), and then saw a link to that article. Part two of it, in the comments, is listed.

This article is like blaming the rape victim for wearing a skirt. It also demeans men, makes them out to be things incapable of rational thought and controlling their urges.

There are other ways young women can publicly demonstrate their distinct female identity -- for example, by wearing feminine clothing and other feminine behavior, being a wife, being pregnant and being a mother.

Oh my f'ing gods, so a way for women to express being a woman is to be pregnant? As if there aren't enough mouths to feed on this planet? Be a wife, be a mother, be a servant to everyone else. I guess a woman's sole role is to be barefoot and pregnant and a servant to a man who is capable of little else than trying to get some.

Likewise, the myriad ways in which men treated women as women -- such as opening doors for them -- all declared that women were feminine, i.e., different from masculine. That is why many feminists opposed men opening doors for women -- it reinforced notions of femininity, a value that feminism has sought to extinguish.

This idiot clearly doesn't know that feminism was originally intended to gain women equal rights. Being a feminist and being feminine are two different things. But what I'm reading in this segment is that woman are incapable of opening doors, so a man must do it for her. (I was raised that whoever reaches the door first typically opens and holds it.)

When all is said and done, heading a home and being married to a good man are far more satisfying to most women than college teaching or corporate work.

For some, not all. All women do not need men to be happy, and not all men need women to be happy. Sheesh! Some women aspire to find cures for cancer! Nope, better waste that mind and that aspiration to go have kids and stay at home all day while your mind goes a mile a second with curiousity and the desire to do more.

It is doubtful that women have ever been as naive about men as are large numbers of contemporary educated women. I believe that my grandmother who never went to school understood men better than the average female college graduate today.

Um, wrong. Women were just raised to never question a man, her education stemming only to what was needed to run a household and make babies. That she could even question was something she never thought to do as it was a concept never presented to her!

Gay men aren't even safe in this article.

Among egalitarians, being a wife is no different a role than that of husband, and motherhood is no longer regarded as distinctively female. Husbands and fathers are supposed to play identical roles, and because of the movement for gay equality, mothers have been declared unnecessary -- two fathers, most well educated people now contend, are every bit as good for a child as a mother and a father.

So...it's a bad thing for fathers to be equal in the lives of their children, despite current government stats that show that children raised only with a father do much better in life and are less likely to fall into drugs, teenage sex, etc., than children raised just with mothers. And somehow, being raised with two loving dads is worse than being raised by a mom who only had you because it's her duty as a woman to have babies.

Shall I go on? Just read these articles and see if you aren't as offended as I am. Men too.

pamich
11-14-2006, 08:49 PM
Once again proving that people should have to aquire a licence to post online. It would solve so many problems.

klitzy
11-14-2006, 08:59 PM
Maybe as a teenage male I am not so offended...I think he/she...No...definately a HE is wrong but not offended.

vhalkirian666
11-14-2006, 09:30 PM
It is interesting to note that the article was written by a woman.

pamich
11-14-2006, 09:38 PM
It is interesting to note that the article was written by a woman.

It was posted by a woman, but was written by a guy named Dennis.

vhalkirian666
11-14-2006, 09:55 PM
It was posted by a woman, but was written by a guy named Dennis.

I see that now...I stand corrected...

While I do not agree with parts of the article...I do think that he make some valid points.

ariastar
11-14-2006, 10:02 PM
I see that now...I stand corrected...

While I do not agree with parts of the article...I do think that he make some valid points.

What points would those be?

ryudo
11-14-2006, 10:13 PM
What points would those be?
That Dennis smokes some damn good shit.

He must be on a good high to write that bullshit article...right?

bird603568
11-14-2006, 10:17 PM
why do i care if hot women expose themselves to me? i wish it would happen more often. and i can tell you why they are doing it because they are whores and <3 the cock

klitzy
11-14-2006, 10:35 PM
why do i care if hot women expose themselves to me? i wish it would happen more often. and i can tell you why they are doing it because they are whores and <3 the cock

What an insightful post....Thank you

rowlodge
11-14-2006, 10:51 PM
....huh..?

vhalkirian666
11-15-2006, 01:08 AM
You may have noticed that many young women wear less, and more sexually provocative, clothing in public than they did a generation, or even 10 years, ago.
I agree

Rather, I mean the feminist and politically correct definition of equality: sameness. Men and women have come to be regarded as the same, not simply as equals.
Thanks to feminist doctrines that pervade education from kindergarten through graduate school, men and women increasingly believe that the sexes are largely identical. Therefore, the arenas wherein women can feel and demonstrate their feminine distinctiveness have narrowed appreciably.

By showing more of their bodies, women can announce that they are women. There are other ways young women can publicly demonstrate their distinct female identity -- for example, by wearing feminine clothing and other feminine behavior, being a wife, being pregnant and being a mother.
I agree with this statement...I think that is why there is a belief in society that its ok to have same-sex parents. Interesting though that this type of relationship cannot produce children naturally.

Being a mother, being pregnant and being a wife are all things that only females can do. Males cannot be a mother, or a wife and they cannot get pregnant.

Femininity was also expressed by sexual reticence. Again, such a notion is laughable in much of contemporary society. The idea that a man made great efforts to be allowed sexual contact with a woman rendered women feminine in men's eyes. They are different from us -- they are feminine. Women who act as sexually available as a man -- through their behavior or their dress -- are not perceived as feminine, since they are perceived as being male-like.
...Women exposing their bodies in public is a big deal. Playing with the sex drive, the most powerful force in nature, is far more dangerous than playing with fire.
I agree...Women who are "easy" to males are typically thought of as "less than" by males. They are treated as something to be "used" and then discarded when it's no longer fun, or something more fun comes along.
Females don't know how to act feminine anymore and males certainly don't know what it means to be masculine.

Every woman knows that the quickest way to attract a man is to have him notice her. So it makes sense to assume that the more of her body she shows, the more men will be attracted to her.
See above answer...

Likewise, the myriad ways in which men treated women as women -- such as opening doors for them -- all declared that women were feminine, i.e., different from masculine. That is why many feminists opposed men opening doors for women -- it reinforced notions of femininity, a value that feminism has sought to extinguish.
I agree...some women today feel like that if a man opens doors for her, pulls out her chair when she sits down etc..is somehow demeaning to them. That they are somehow inferior to the men that they are with. No wonder since as the article states that most women don't even know what it means to be feminine.

So, femininity is largely a dead concept. Ask most young women -- or men -- what it means, and you will get either a blank stare or a hostile reaction.
Agreed...

I don't believe that the writer of the article meant to imply that it's all the woman's fault.
I think that both males and females are to blame...and it goes back a long time....it's not something that has just recently happened...