Windows Vista

[cablegeek]

I heard that Vista is a bootleg copy of osX and modified to work on a pc Basically a hackintosh you know they say that vista runs best on a Mac just a rumor.

I am running vista home premium and like xp much better however do like some applications of vista.

I am so tired of Windows never getting it together and launching there OS before the bugs are worked out.

I may switch to the DARK SIDE and go Apple/Mac/OSX.

[chris3d]

Vista is most certainly not a bootleg copy of OS X, and that rumor about Vista running best on a Mac was proven false shortly after it came out.

However, I'm all for promoting another switch to Mac :) Go for it!

[whatsforlunch]

In no way shape or form is vista based off of OS X. Windows Vista is based off of the NT Kernel and is its 6th version (XP was the 5th). OS X is based off of UNIX.

As for Vista running best on a mac, the software will work on any hardware that is X86 based. Therefore, the Apple hardware was just the best at the time of the review.

[dark_shroud]

Was this thread created just to start a flame war or something?

Windows 2000 is NT 5.0, XP is NT 5.1. That's why Windows 7 is called Windows 7, because it will be NT 7. This goes back to Windows NT 4.0 naming system.

All that being said Windows Vista with SP1 is just fine and matches XP SP3 performance wise. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2302495,00.asp

[ArmpitOfDeath]

I don't think anyone is dumb enough to take that as a seed for a flame war.

There was talk for a while about a certain mag's assertion that Vista ran fastest on the Macbook Pro among the notebooks they had tested, which was predictably distorted by the Apple-fanboy blogosphere as 'Even Vista runs fastest on the Macbook Pro, haha, Apple FTW'. Which was and is clearly not true - and clearly the mag in question doesn't test enough notebooks.

And even given the theoretically much simpler single-vendor nature of OS X, I was not altogether surprised that I had some major problems with application and driver compatibility in Leopard. If Apple were in Microsoft's shoes, the Vista problems would be a pipedream in comparison to what they'd mess up.

[computoman]

Everybody is copying bsd and linux....

[darknessgp]

Everybody is copying bsd and linux....

ORLY? What are they copying?

In any case, why wouldn't they try and copy something that they think the majority of computers users could benefit from while they make money off of it and not have to pay their source?

[burkhartmj]

ORLY? What are they copying?

In any case, why wouldn't they try and copy something that they think the majority of computers users could benefit from while they make money off of it and not have to pay their source?

Too many pronouns!!!!

[davmoo]

(/me checks calendar again to make sure its not April 1st)

Please tell me that the first post was a joke. People can't actually believe something like that, can they?

And anyone who thinks OSX does not have bugs has never actually used an OSX box for any length of time. The bugs are different from XP and Vista, but they are still very much there.

[marks1975]

I find vista to be a memory hog, and clunky. I find the permissions to be redundant and cumbersome.

[burkhartmj]

I'm pretty fond of Vista actually. I still have XP on my desktop just because I'm used to it, but my laptop runs vista and I love it. I especially love the centralized panels for things like networking and power usage and such. And I'll admit for the aero effects. Even have my xp skinned to look similar to vista.

As far as memory is concerned, it does tend to use a high amount of memory, but when an app needs it, there''s always enough. Leads me to believe it's just precaching when the computer is idle

[absolutemayhem]

I run Vista ultimate on my gaming rig and my wife as well. The only issue I have been forced to deal with was old printer drivers .. solved by buying new printer.

XP is dual booted on my gaming rig but i have not gone into xp for several months. I do use xp pro on all my laptops and one acer laptop came with the xp media version.

I was a '95 fanboy .. 98 made networking easier .. Milenium never gave me headaches, but i liked the fact I could just install it on top of itself and it seemed to be fine .. i igored system restores. I really liked 2k for the office, XP was awesome .. but at the time .. and ram was not dirt cheap like now, i found you needed at least 512 minimum to get it to work, 1GB made it sweet.

Vista .. wow its a far cry from the first beta test version I had. I really wish they had cut over to the "google like file system" thats really what I was most hyped about, unfortnately it was dropped. the Wintel OS platform will always get "prettier" it must be sometype of computer evolution law by now. I still CMD tons you would think IPCONFIG and PING and Tracert would get some type of GUI love.

oops starting to rant .. and show my age .. good thing i never talked about does 3.0 or complained about the old days of 3.5 disk game installs like lands of lore or coreldraw or wordperfect 11 .. rofl!

-MayheM

[dark_shroud]

I really wish they had cut over to the "google like file system" thats really what I was most hyped about, unfortunately it was dropped.

I'm curious as to what are you talking about here? The only thing I can think of is WinFS which isn't actually a file system that many people mistook it for and reported on (PCmad).

[absolutemayhem]

Dark shroud, I'll have to poke around, but originally one of the features vista was going to offer was a "database" based file system, not exactually sure what its called. This was supposed to replace NTFS and Fat/32.

Basically it was to allow you to seach and index files much like doing a google search for info on your hard drive, and at that speed.

Basically it takes FOREVER to do a hard drive search and its very limited via fat and NTFS, the database version was supposed to offer insanely fast search results along with a much larger (or more cpmplex) search criteria.

So as an example, you had vista installed with this new fancy file system and you wanted to find a document you wrote about "tekzilla" .. this search would check your emails, word docs, excel files and a bunch of other file types and instantly return the results. Much like what you would get if you googled "tekzilla" only the contents would be local.

I know there are tools that will do this now, but Vista was supposed to offer this as part of the OS Core and file system.

-MayheM

[absolutemayhem]

I stand corrected .. I should have googled then posted .. LOL!

WINFS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS)

Apparently, I like many windows beta testers, I drink a lot while reading ..

It was a "runtime" relational databse .. not a filesystem replacement.

-MayheM

[dark_shroud]

It's confusing period because of of some of the misconceptions posted by supposedly reputable sites, like PCmag. I was lucky enough to take a class on Vista during my last semester in college. WinFS is one of the biggest misconceptions partially because of the FS in the name.

[absolutemayhem]

I remember at the time reading many articals below that clearly called it a File System.

http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/os/0,1000001098,39285313,00.htm

-MayheM

[cacogen]

I find vista to be a memory hog, and clunky. I find the permissions to be redundant and cumbersome.


Turn off UAC, and run Vista on modern hardware.

Vista is damn snappy for me on a Q6600, 3 gigs RAM, nVidia 8800gt.