Episode 152 - Relationship Advice [Discussion] [Archive]

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travislopes

05-30-2008, 10:42 PM

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Watch and download the episode here. (http://revision3.com/diggnation/2008-05-29dos/)

ariastar

05-30-2008, 11:40 PM

The 3G iPhone...it is coming soon.

Back to watching.

ariastar

05-31-2008, 12:02 AM

Don't they know that Weekly World News is a tabloid on par with The Sun? WWN has had articles about five-year-olds giving birth to dog-faced babies, and I believe they're the one claiming every issue that Nostradamus's' remains are magical or something. Anything they say is fake, and people buy those rags for the sensationalist story.

Silly boys, thinking there could be credibility.

forthekids85

05-31-2008, 12:42 AM

Hopefully, Aria, you commented mid-episode. Otherwise, you've got severe problems with sensing sarcasm. :D

Good ep, btw. Definitely felt like two friends just hanging out and talking, and I never felt that they were rushing through the stories to get down. Very funny stuff.

"We'll do it live!"

travislopes

05-31-2008, 01:00 AM

Diggnation #152 will be released shortly. Something special with this episode... :)

-chuckles-
I'm confused...what was the "something special?"

joeyrock

05-31-2008, 01:32 AM

What does Kevin say the in the out-takes and tells Glen not to put in? I can't make it out.

frankiethewaffle

05-31-2008, 01:59 AM

Ok fun show. This may just turn out to be another show that the emails are talked about more then the show. On the second Email, I agree with Kevin more than Alex, which is a shock to me, even.

If you wanna know where you stand, start to back off a little. My method may be better. Instead of taking a stand on who pays, play the game back. Tell her you can't afford to pay this time. You are starting to fall short, you cant keep up. That keeps you in the friendship without being confrontational in any way. If she shows understanding or offers more in return both are good. If she will hang out with you just to watch movies, or whatever is less than you do now, you have a positive there. One she is not using you, two she is into you.

From the picture and what you stated in the Email, she is not using you. Her smile was way too "right" for you to be her guy. She may not know how to take a more substantial role. As the show I watched gets further from my memory, someone mentioned she may have been violated. I disagree. I think inexperienced more than over experienced. She "makes out" with you, but backs off. She may be scared of a next step, however you should make your plans clear. Just because she doesn't set obvious limits to you, doesn't mean you should make them up in your mind. As well as the paying for everything thing. Don't be rude. But be a bit more aggressive. She is cute as hell, play it safe to keep her close, but don't be a pushover either.

First Email. Sorry to hear about your Mother dying of Cancer. I know that pain all too well. I lost my Mom about ten years ago, on Christmas morning, to Colon Cancer. Just don't let it rack your mind and spirit like I did. For 18 months I tried all I could to help my Mother. Every Doctor and new surgery I tried to find for her ended up in an end to the line. Even caused a rift between me and my Brothers because I failed to help her. Who knows who was wrong, but we all got over it and depend on each other for that relationship we had with our Mother to this day. Plus, the oldest Brother had both of my favorite kids on this planet with his wife. They are the only reason I care about Christmas now.

I cant summarize that for a good outcome..........Maybe you can.

We were just lucky to be the Brothers my Mother always wanted us to be.

robodude666

05-31-2008, 02:19 AM

Totally off topic from this episode but does anyone know if Leah Culver will be coming to the New York Diggnation next week?

ha1f

05-31-2008, 02:49 AM

Totally off topic from this episode but does anyone know if Leah Culver will be coming to the New York Diggnation next week?Creepy

Also: LOL, Towson

Seriously, when they told that story, I was thinking to myself "I bet this is at some school like Towson..."

jayunsplanet

05-31-2008, 03:08 AM

For some reason, I really really enjoyed this episode. More so than recent episodes. There was a lot of back and forth between Alex and Kevin. Fun dialog. I liked the story on the XBOX web server and the ensuing little talk about setting up your own webserver. I've configured many websites on home servers (Was always fun installingn and configuring Apache, MySQL, PHP to run on Windows machines and IIS... only a year or so later come to find out Apache2Triad does the entire installation for you. Bah!)

Hopefully I'll see you guys in New York. It's going to be a busy week...

Also: LOL, Towson

Seriously, when they told that story, I was thinking to myself "I bet this is at some school like Towson..."
Bwahaha. I nearly spit out my milkshake when Alex said "Town[send] University Maryland". Props, Dave, props... Girls cute.. Sucky situation though. But I agree, make her chase.

chuckles

05-31-2008, 03:36 AM

I'm confused...what was the "something special?"

The zune contest. :)

-chuckles-

robodude666

05-31-2008, 03:45 AM

Creepy

Its... not what you think ~___~

I have developer/Django questions for her. Would be awesome to meet her as well. I think Pownce is a really great site.

maynza

05-31-2008, 04:04 AM

The zune contest. :)

-chuckles-

It's not working, it wanted me to log in then when i clicked log in nothing happened.

travislopes

05-31-2008, 04:29 AM

The zune contest. :)

-chuckles-
Ahh. When I saw that this episode's "permalink" was "dos," I thought that maybe Kevin and Alex were gonna go on a "Fuck you MediaDefender" rant.

chupatumama

05-31-2008, 06:27 AM

Ahh. When I saw that this episode's "permalink" was "dos," I thought that maybe Kevin and Alex were gonna go on a "Fuck you MediaDefender" rant.

I was wondering if someone was going to bring this up...
Is there a gag order on any MediaDefender/Revision3 servers mentions
or was this episode filmed last week before the attacks?

Youd figure theyd at least mention the maggot who founded MediaDefender, Randy Saaf to make fun of him: Inc.,http://www.wired.com/images/article/full/2007/09/randy_saaf_media_defender_500px.jpg

Wiki says he sold to ARTISTdirect, Inc. for $42 million in cash,
so both Saaf and ARTISTdirect, Inc have mucho money.
They've fucked with my entertainment dammit!
Sue them for all they have plus $1 !!

*My cousin thinks that Kevin probably banged the guy's wife/sister/girlfriend and this was a desperate attempt to save face.

ariastar

05-31-2008, 07:21 AM

Hopefully, Aria, you commented mid-episode. Otherwise, you've got severe problems with sensing sarcasm. :D

Yes. Yes I did. :)

ariastar

05-31-2008, 07:24 AM

Ahh. When I saw that this episode's "permalink" was "dos," I thought that maybe Kevin and Alex were gonna go on a "Fuck you MediaDefender" rant.

I swear, of all the websites in the world for MediaDefender to fuck with...they had to accidentally get Rev3. Gotta love it.

ariastar

05-31-2008, 07:42 AM

I am going to reply to this in two parts, but the second part first to get it out of the way.

First Email. Sorry to hear about your Mother dying of Cancer. I know that pain all too well. I lost my Mom about ten years ago, on Christmas morning, to Colon Cancer. Just don't let it rack your mind and spirit like I did. For 18 months I tried all I could to help my Mother. Every Doctor and new surgery I tried to find for her ended up in an end to the line. Even caused a rift between me and my Brothers because I failed to help her. Who knows who was wrong, but we all got over it and depend on each other for that relationship we had with our Mother to this day. Plus, the oldest Brother had both of my favorite kids on this planet with his wife. They are the only reason I care about Christmas now.

I cant summarize that for a good outcome..........Maybe you can.

We were just lucky to be the Brothers my Mother always wanted us to be.

My dad died five years ago this upcoming November. His last words to me were that he was going to shoot me and my mother, with the gun loaded at me, and then he shot himself. I spent months going over what I could have done differently, and the answer was nothing. "Rift" would put it mildly what happened in the family. I was completely cut off in every way, even from my brother, and have neither seen nor spoken to any of them, save for the occasional e-mail with one aunt, since the night of Dad's memorial when they sent me a long letter going on about how I should have taken the bullet and be dead. Harsh, but true.

It's fucked how death tears families apart when they need each other most instead of pulling them together.

There's a problem I have with what seems to be okay to talk about. Mention someone dying of cancer, heart disease, emphysema, etc., and it's okay and you get sympathy. Mention it's by suicide and people shift away and wish they were anywhere but there. There needs to be a change - survivors of suicide shouldn't be made to feel like they have to hide the truth about what happened nor ashamed about it. When it can't be talked about, those needing help are likely to feel even more hopeless than they do. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE.

I am glad you and your brothers pulled through in the end and still have a relationship and can enjoy Christmas. Moving on to that point is very difficult.

Ok fun show. This may just turn out to be another show that the emails are talked about more then the show. On the second Email, I agree with Kevin more than Alex, which is a shock to me, even.

If you wanna know where you stand, start to back off a little. My method may be better. Instead of taking a stand on who pays, play the game back. Tell her you can't afford to pay this time. You are starting to fall short, you cant keep up. That keeps you in the friendship without being confrontational in any way. If she shows understanding or offers more in return both are good. If she will hang out with you just to watch movies, or whatever is less than you do now, you have a positive there. One she is not using you, two she is into you.

From the picture and what you stated in the Email, she is not using you. Her smile was way too "right" for you to be her guy. She may not know how to take a more substantial role. As the show I watched gets further from my memory, someone mentioned she may have been violated. I disagree. I think inexperienced more than over experienced. She "makes out" with you, but backs off. She may be scared of a next step, however you should make your plans clear. Just because she doesn't set obvious limits to you, doesn't mean you should make them up in your mind. As well as the paying for everything thing. Don't be rude. But be a bit more aggressive. She is cute as hell, play it safe to keep her close, but don't be a pushover either.

She looks very much like a "good girl." Was she raised religious and she feels bad or that she should stop at a certain point? By taking Kevin's advice, she may think he's rejecting her. I understand that he can't always go after her, but don't go as far as Kevin suggested. I agree with Alex's first thoughts. No games. Talk to her. Open and honest communication. If she is that "good girl" and as innocent as she looks, the rest of what they suggested is likely to make her think she did something wrong that he lost interest.

Seriously, TALK TO THE GIRL. Why are games more acceptable than conversation?

tangerine

05-31-2008, 10:47 AM

I agree with Kevin but I think a girl needs a heads up on who is paying
if she is used to having you pay.. she may assume
and may not be prepared to pay her share
unless you bring it up previous to the date.

And YES.. walk away from head-cases,
unless you have the heart to repair damage
done onto her via previous relationships.
Not a fun job, but def Gods Work if you commit to it.

That said...

As a girl, she confuses even me because I understand
and accept what is expected after several weeks of dating
while watching a man pay.
Mostly because I understand the value of a dollar and acknowledge
he has a choice on whom to spend his time with
and I understand the male mind.. and what he needs.
I've never strung a guy like that.
Cruel.
So maybe I have not walked enough in her shoes.

I agree that you need to change the dynamic a bit.
Make her chase you.
WE DO LOVE THE CHASE
I applaud Alex's advice to sit her down for a chat
but something in me predicts
most guys would not present themselves well.
It would just look like they want to touch the boobies.
Which is flattering, but the translation is lost.

Simply walk away.
Walk away.
She will take the initiative
if she is interested.

PS: GREAT SHOW
I have the .exe for FF3 on deck.
Worried if my add-ons will work with it.
Febe then execute.
Loved that Alex's future MIL
finally understood that Alex is an internet rockstar.
When Alex said "bees knees" I lost my shit.
Epic.

autodas

05-31-2008, 05:58 PM

About the contest winner, http://twitter.com/AndyCollins, isn't following anybody so how did he get entered?

sommers

05-31-2008, 07:07 PM

When Alex screamed dump her I couldn't help but laugh uncontrollably for 5 mins. hahaha thanks for the funny episode

shinigami052

05-31-2008, 09:48 PM

About the contest winner, http://twitter.com/AndyCollins, isn't following anybody so how did he get entered?

http://twitter.com/andycollins309

masherscf

05-31-2008, 10:08 PM

That was some pretty good advice, up to the alcohol bit. You should not be using alcohol for that.

silentspyder

05-31-2008, 11:20 PM

Just gotta say I like this episode. The last one was too video heavy. This one had some tech, which I always prefer.

robohunter

06-01-2008, 12:58 AM

I don't think the writer of the second email will have girl trouble for much longer. She'll likely want nothing more to do with him when she finds out he's aired details of her personal life (complete with a photograph) on an internet TV show that gets hundreds of thousands of downloads per episode. OK, it's not quite American Idol viewing figures, but on a college campus - she'll find out. Someone who knows her (brother, friend, classmate, someone) will recognize her on Diggnation and spill..

Have to say he made a mistake to include the photo, and the guys might have made a mistake to show it - that violated her privacy without her having any say. It wasn't so much the photo itself that was the problem, but the combination of the photo and the subject matter - which was largely to the effect that she might be taking the guy for a ride, and might be frigid, and that "she's not the sharpest tool in the shed".

I'm not trying to flame the guy or anything, but my advice would be never to put relationship stuff on the internet in any way, shape or form - unless you can maintain anonymity.

robodude666

06-01-2008, 03:53 AM

unless it's completely anonymous.

The internet isn't anonymous.

masterq

06-01-2008, 04:55 AM

What does Kevin say the in the out-takes and tells Glen not to put in? I can't make it out.

I was wondering this too... it sounds like kevin is saying "He's so badass" in a flirtatious whisper and I can't make out what alex says... funny stuff tho

ariastar

06-01-2008, 06:46 AM

About the contest winner, http://twitter.com/AndyCollins, isn't following anybody so how did he get entered?

Maybe he's someone made up so Alex could keep it? ;)

r3co

06-01-2008, 03:35 PM

Twitter laundromat is simply useless for the main population. However a laundromat that lets you choose your notification method via txt, email, msn, aim, twit msg etc... would be a better idea.

Yo Kevin I could use a free Macbook, I'll use it to download and watch all Diggnation episodes!

rowlodge

06-01-2008, 06:58 PM

yeah just dump her, its the truth, hasnt he ever seen a girl with more than one boyfriend, sheesh?

aside from the email, this is the first time in months rev 3 just popped up on my browser just like that, after months and months i dont have to open up firefox first then go back to my favorite safari web browser, hope it last this time.

chad_ryan86

06-01-2008, 11:22 PM

masherscf

06-01-2008, 11:53 PM

The advice to back-off and stop doing shot for her was spot-on. Chances are, she has issues or she's not really into him. Honestly, if she was into him, he'd probably already be in her.

rekzai

06-02-2008, 06:28 AM

I wish people in Canada could enter the Zune contest :(

frankiethewaffle

06-02-2008, 07:02 AM

I am going to reply to this in two parts, but the second part first to get it out of the way.

My dad died five years ago this upcoming November. His last words to me were that he was going to shoot me and my mother, with the gun loaded at me, and then he shot himself. I spent months going over what I could have done differently, and the answer was nothing. "Rift" would put it mildly what happened in the family. I was completely cut off in every way, even from my brother, and have neither seen nor spoken to any of them, save for the occasional e-mail with one aunt, since the night of Dad's memorial when they sent me a long letter going on about how I should have taken the bullet and be dead. Harsh, but true.

It's fucked how death tears families apart when they need each other most instead of pulling them together.

There's a problem I have with what seems to be okay to talk about. Mention someone dying of cancer, heart disease, emphysema, etc., and it's okay and you get sympathy. Mention it's by suicide and people shift away and wish they were anywhere but there. There needs to be a change - survivors of suicide shouldn't be made to feel like they have to hide the truth about what happened nor ashamed about it. When it can't be talked about, those needing help are likely to feel even more hopeless than they do. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE.

I am glad you and your brothers pulled through in the end and still have a relationship and can enjoy Christmas. Moving on to that point is very difficult.

She looks very much like a "good girl." Was she raised religious and she feels bad or that she should stop at a certain point? By taking Kevin's advice, she may think he's rejecting her. I understand that he can't always go after her, but don't go as far as Kevin suggested. I agree with Alex's first thoughts. No games. Talk to her. Open and honest communication. If she is that "good girl" and as innocent as she looks, the rest of what they suggested is likely to make her think she did something wrong that he lost interest.

Seriously, TALK TO THE GIRL. Why are games more acceptable than conversation?

I didn't mean quote/unquote "Good Girl". Just a good girl/ideal chick. I agreed with Kevins idea, not the method.

As far as your Father, Aria I do have all the compassion for you as I would for anyone that lost a family member to a disease. When I was Seventeen I worked with a girl who's Dad did a similar thing. Never threatened anyone else in the family, I really have compassion for dealing with that. This girl discovered her father. She was dating someone abusive at the time we met her. My 2 Brothers and I, as well as a friend we consider a third brother to each of us, (also turns out has a brain tumor.....that damned Cancer), took her under our wing. Told her she deserved more, but, not us. She eventually married a guy that was the cousin of my future sister-in-law, after the sister-in-law part.. There were four marriages that came out of that Burger King crew. Fifteen years later, all remain happy and strong. It freaks me out too.

Point is, things can hurt and you can sometimes not be able to break the pain. Just don't base your decisions on anything to do with pain. I guess.

kirk89

06-03-2008, 11:24 PM

The guy from the 2nd email wouldn't have to worry if his picture wasn't displayed. It seems like Kevin has a thing with getting girls drunk when guys are having hard times getting what they want out of a relationship lol.

Best of luck to the guy who wrote the 2nd email, but suddenly changing ways could be bad, but its a good idea to stop paying and doing everything for this girl. Maybe just backing off a little and actually just sitting down sometime and just ask. Tell her he doesn't want to get played by some girl who just is looking for a hook up every so often.