Guitar Hero: Metallica

[dolson]

I didn't see this posted yet... Must mean people are just as excited about this as I am.

So, it's been confirmed that Guitar Hero: Metallica will be releasing fiscal 2008, so between now and end of March 2009 I believe.

I'm wondering if it's going to be bundled with a jaw harp, banjo, and an oil drum?

[aerodash84]

So if there's going to be 4 Guitar Hero games in this year alone, I think I'm going to hang myself by my wireless 360 controller. As cool as it sounds, I'm getting GH: Aerosmith (bigger fan of them) and Rock Band. On Tour sounded bad enough *wiggle wiggle wiggle* but on top of 2 band exclusives and a Rock Band knock off. As well, probably a straight up Guitar Hero game. I heard there may be up to numbers of almost 30 GH games/versions in the next year alone. I'm sorry, but I think I'm done supporting this series once I get the new one. They should've just gone with downloadable content like Rock Band and took a year or so off.

[ryudo]

Anyone still like Metallica anymore?

I mean they have not released a good album since the black album and have turned into the biggest assholes about everything..meh I refuse to give them any support anymore.

[nextgenxbox]

The more GH the better.

[forthekids85]

I was about to post this the other day, but became bored of the idea by the time I hit the post button.

I think the Metallica version of GH will be extremely fun and sell well. It's what most people were screaming about when they announced the Aerosmith version. I'll probably get it to play some of my favorite songs, but I can't help but think it's too little too late for the franchise.

Neversoft has begun to Tony Hawk the series already, so they had either introduce something new and innovative or just accept the fact that they're second fiddle (or second plastic guitar, whichever you prefer) to Rock Band.

[absolutemayhem]

Can't wait! I hope they do something for GH4 with the Metallica tracks since they will already have the lead/bass done.


-MayheM

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[absolutemayhem]

Anyone still like Metallica anymore?

I mean they have not released a good album since the black album and have turned into the biggest assholes about everything..meh I refuse to give them any support anymore.

LOL, yeah talk about bad PR bands! I mean the battle with Napster and then shitty albums did not help.. I don't care for the band members, but I mean .. I am evil, master of puppets, for whom the bell tolls, fad to black. I agree tho after the commercial success the band had with black, just was never the same again.

-MayheM

[nextgenxbox]

I hope it has drums, bass and vocals too and not just guitar.

[stubadub]

I still like Metallica. I think Load was actually pretty good, just a stylistic departure. Reload wasn't as strong but still worthwhile. There are elements I like on St. Anger but the album as a whole left quite a bit to be desired. Nothing compares to the Ride the Lightning/Master of Puppets/And Justice For All group of albums. I've been a fan since 1986. It'll take a bit more than just the guys being assholes to change that.

If there is a Metallica themed Guitar Hero I'll be buying it without a doubt. The Metallica tracks on Rock Band are among my favorite.

[darknessgp]

Honestly, I wish more Metallica songs came as DLC on rock band... They have some great songs, not enough though that I think it would warrant their own game, though I don't think any band/artist does. I'll just add this to the list of GH games I won't be getting because of what they did on GH3. Expert is supposed to be hard, but they made it almost impossible, and some songs are nothing more than a finger flail-fest because of the even easier hammer-on/pull-offs... It just became not fun to play for me.


nextgenxbox, to quote a very intelligent lady... "I think that's called 'Rock Band'"

[sgregory416]

i think that anyone who doesn't listen to they're music based only on they're stance when it comes to "illegal" file sharing is dumb, sure its a bummer but it has nothing to do with musical talent and if you don't like them based on talent then that's totally respectable, i just think people forget to separate the artists from the art. another thing is i think this guitar hero franchise is getting a bit crazy with the amount of milk being made by activision and rock band hasn't even confirmed a sequel, although i think i will purchase this game.

[ryudo]

i think that anyone who doesn't listen to they're music based only on they're stance when it comes to "illegal" file sharing is dumb, sure its a bummer but it has nothing to do with musical talent and if you don't like them based on talent then that's totally respectable, i just think people forget to separate the artists from the art. another thing is i think this guitar hero franchise is getting a bit crazy with the amount of milk being made by activision and rock band hasn't even confirmed a sequel, although i think i will purchase this game.

It's not that..it's just that they have released nothing but shit last few years but they act like they are still great and on top of that the flip flopping of the file sharing stance..it's both combined.

They were once great but they just flat out suck now..it's like they are giving fans a big fuck you.

[dolson]

I was about to post this the other day, but became bored of the idea by the time I hit the post button.

Haha, yeah. The only reason I bothered was so I could get a jab in about the tinny snare and James' country twangy voice. :)

LOL, yeah talk about bad PR bands! I mean the battle with Napster and then shitty albums did not help.. I don't care for the band members, but I mean .. I am evil, master of puppets, for whom the bell tolls, fad to black. I agree tho after the commercial success the band had with black, just was never the same again.

-MayheM

Am I Evil is not a Metallica song. They did cover it (and made it better, in my opinion), but I think they'd have to get the rights from Diamond Head to put it in, and then, why not just put the original?

The Black album was good, but the last great and greatest Metallica album was Justice. Listen to the Black album again, and really try to notice the precision with which that thing was crafted... Every detail was very planned, and feels very much... What's the word... Well, put it this way. One thing that you will notice, even with just a casual listening, is that every other track fades out at the end, and the others end abruptly. What? That doesn't just happen. Someone, somewhere, sometime, sat down and said "let's fade out every other track." Just feels weird to me. Maybe it's just me though.

[icedsoul]

I am looking forward to this very much! And I have to disagree on justice or black being the last good albums they made. but hey thats taste I guess. in my opinion, and this stupid napster thing and what they do and so on I dont care too much about, they are one o the few bands that progressed and developed music wise. and just because they changed many people say its not as good anymore, but on the other hand would they still do the exact same thing people would still complain and hate them being the same... that how it works I guess... GH metallica I can't wait!!!

[gi_josh]

My god, do no want. This is just getting ridiculous. Why bother putting out these bullshit half games with Aerosmith and Metallica when all the songs could just as easily be DLC in the next real guitar hero game, which I actually want.

No matter how good a band is (and in my opinion, neither Aerosmith or Metallica can be described as good bands) I don't think anyone can carry a game on their own. Yes, I know that there will be other tracks in the aerosmith one, but still. I couldn't imagine having to slog through a game with even 60% of the same band.

Thats why we have ipods now, so we don't have to listen to the same artist over and over again.

[aerodash84]

Don't get me wrong by my post from earlier, it just left a bad taste thinking about it. I do enjoy Metallica, but not enough to buy a whole game based on their stuff I listen to occasionally. If they do things like they plan to with GH: Aerosmith with having other bands based around their career might be cool. Still Activision is just driving this great franchise in the ground in a blazing fire. The fire will be sold seperately as DLC :D This is just my whole opinion more on the franchise, I'd much rather see an actual Metallica album since it's been 5 years or something since St. Anger.

[darknessgp]

i think that anyone who doesn't listen to they're music based only on they're stance when it comes to "illegal" file sharing is dumb, sure its a bummer but it has nothing to do with musical talent and if you don't like them based on talent then that's totally respectable, i just think people forget to separate the artists from the art. another thing is i think this guitar hero franchise is getting a bit crazy with the amount of milk being made by activision and rock band hasn't even confirmed a sequel, although i think i will purchase this game.

I agree, it's ridiculous that we currently have 3 GH games that are supposedly going to be release within a year... and no Rock Band 2, which kind of makes me happy. I hope Rock Band decides to just release better versions of their drums and guitar and then just keep cranking out DLC. Maybe make some improvements to the game via software updates. But really is there a reason that they'd have to release a second game?

[gi_josh]

I agree, it's ridiculous that we currently have 3 GH games that are supposedly going to be release within a year... and no Rock Band 2, which kind of makes me happy. I hope Rock Band decides to just release better versions of their drums and guitar and then just keep cranking out DLC. Maybe make some improvements to the game via software updates. But really is there a reason that they'd have to release a second game?

I'd like to see a second game at some point down the line, just because there are some changes I'd like to see that I don't think software updates could handle. But you are right, who cares if it is WAAAAAAY down the road? This is the way to go.

[icedsoul]

Don't get me wrong by my post from earlier, it just left a bad taste thinking about it. I do enjoy Metallica, but not enough to buy a whole game based on their stuff I listen to occasionally. If they do things like they plan to with GH: Aerosmith with having other bands based around their career might be cool. Still Activision is just driving this great franchise in the ground in a blazing fire. The fire will be sold seperately as DLC :D This is just my whole opinion more on the franchise, I'd much rather see an actual Metallica album since it's been 5 years or something since St. Anger.

I totally get what you're saying! true true. and for the next album.. its really about time, but its is supposed to come out soon, no?

[nextgenxbox]

Just think of these games (aerosmith and metallica) as song pack discs and not as a full game (even though they are). :)

[icedsoul]

I guess it really depends on the price... no?

[stubadub]

Am I Evil is not a Metallica song. They did cover it (and made it better, in my opinion), but I think they'd have to get the rights from Diamond Head to put it in, and then, why not just put the original?



Because the Metallica version is the one most people are familiar with, and the one they'd want to hear/play.

You can blame the fade on Bob Rock. Thankfully the new album is being produced by Rick Rubin. They are in need of some new (to them) ideas, and he's had great success working with people as diverse as Johnny Cash, Slayer, Jay Z and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I'm curious to hear what he's brought to the table.

[aerodash84]

Just think of these games (aerosmith and metallica) as song pack discs and not as a full game (even though they are). :)

I would be happy if they were song pack discs at a lower cost, kind of like 80's. Except they're packaging them with new guitars with special guitars and faceplates. From what I read on Aerosmith they're redoing a lot of GH3 mechanics like camera, models, and stuff.

Here's what I think would save Guitar Hero. First, scrap a full band set Rock Band beat them to it, but it costs like $180 or something for both games. They make so much money alone for being cheaper and popular. Next game release big big songs, that are highly popular. Then for DLC release slightly popular but maybe not A-Sides. Just thought of that on my drive here to work. I don't know what do you guys think?

[darknessgp]

Just think of these games (aerosmith and metallica) as song pack discs and not as a full game (even though they are). :)

That's what they said with "Rock the 80s" and it really was just a song pack and skin for the game... but cost the same as the real game, which was bad.

GI_Josh, I suppose you are correct, eventually they would want to release another game. It just seems like GH is going overboard with their 3 upcoming games, and a lot of people are going "Where is Rock Band 2?!"

[stubadub]

It's not that..it's just that they have released nothing but shit last few years but they act like they are still great and on top of that the flip flopping of the file sharing stance..it's both combined.

They were once great but they just flat out suck now..it's like they are giving fans a big fuck you.

Let's be fair. They were totally douches with the whole Napster thing, but at that time you'd have been hard pressed to find musicians that thought file sharing was a good thing. At that time they all hoped it was a temporary thing, and many of the bands you still like were hoping that legislation would stop the madness. It took several years for artists that thought they were forgotten to realize downloads brought renewed interest, bands starting out to realize the mindshare they were gaining meant more ticket sales, and it wasn't until the last year that anyone big tried to monetize free. Metallica are far from being the only musicians to have their eyes opened over the last decade.

Call me naive but I have big expectations for the next album. Rubin has a history of bringing artists that are burned out back into the fold, reducing what they do to the essence of what made them good in the first place. I expect the album still won't compare to their albums of the 80s, but I'm expecting better than Load material.

[absolutemayhem]

Cool, learn something new every day .. Am I Evil, not an original Metallica song and its one of my top ten metallica tracks.

On the topic of Metallica and napster ... meh .. I think they just figured they could put their poplulatirty at the time behind it. I do not think Metallica really understand the full force of the internet at that time. I'm pretty sure if anything, during that time, more people were "what the hell is this napster shit, people are downloading music free of the internet?". I know at the time it was likely more of an underground/college life issue. The dot.com era was just gaining momentum at that point.

Honestly I think the record labels put them up to it and they just became poster boys for the whole "Napster BAD" bullshit. The problem I think for Metallica was that the sales and record play for load was so bad at the time coming off of the black album, I think the record label excs brainwashed Lars and Hatfield into actually believe it was Napster causing the sale problems.

I think the media got behind Metallica and really pushed them. Once Metallica took the stand on Napster .. for good or bad .. I was hard not for them to be the poster boys. People make mistakes and live to regret it, I imagine people feel the same way about voting for Bush .. twice! lol ..


To be fair about Metallica, when they toured with G'N'R in Canada, Axel Rose refused to play a ton of venues and Metallica still played.


-MayheM

[dolson]

To be fair about Metallica, when they toured with G'N'R in Canada, Axel Rose refused to play a ton of venues and Metallica still played.

Axl Rose is a dickhead, so... This doesn't say that much, really. :)

[stubadub]

Cool, learn something new every day .. Am I Evil, not an original Metallica song and its one of my top ten metallica tracks.
The problem I think for Metallica was that the sales and record play for load was so bad at the time coming off of the black album, I think the record label excs brainwashed Lars and Hatfield into actually believe it was Napster causing the sale problems.

-MayheM

Load sold 5 million copies and came more than 3 years before this, reload 3 million and 2 years, Garage Inc. 5 million and more than 1 year. S & M was the most recent release and it sold 5 million. The Metallica thing at the center of the whole controversy was the song "I Disappear" from the Mission Impossible 2 soundtrack.

I know that wasn't really your point. I just like pulling Metallica facts out and slapping them around a bit. I pretty much agree with what you said.

[az0madman]

If it's only guitar, I'm gonna pass. Frankly, I feel I'm getting ripped off now if I buy DLC for Guitar Hero. You're paying just as much as Rock Band downloads but get less gameplay out of it.

[neverendingwhitelights]

I would be excited, but as long as the lag can't be set correctly between my guitar and TV, I can't play these games anymore.

[apswesthome]

metallica blows

[scoobydiesel]

I'm down with buying this. over aerosmith for sure.....sorry :-s

[tyashki]

If it's only guitar, I'm gonna pass. Frankly, I feel I'm getting ripped off now if I buy DLC for Guitar Hero. You're paying just as much as Rock Band downloads but get less gameplay out of it.

Depends how you define gameplay. The whole point of Guitar Hero is that the guitar is emphasised. You don't get the guitar experience in Rock Band that you do with Guitar Hero, cause they have to balance the game for all the instruments.

I like the fact that with these Artist themed games you know what you're getting. I like Metallica, so I'll get this new version.

[aerodash84]

Depends how you define gameplay. The whole point of Guitar Hero is that the guitar is emphasised. You don't get the guitar experience in Rock Band that you do with Guitar Hero, cause they have to balance the game for all the instruments.


My question is how are they going to handle the introduction of other instruments for 4? I'm not sure if thats the one, but it'll basically be like Rock Band then. Except, the drum pad will have cymbals so it won't be compatible with RB then. That's where a large part of my frustration stems from. If I want to have both games I'll have to have a ton of guitars, 2 drum sets, wind up with 2 mikes, and whatever they come with. I'd like to see a standard for these games soon, before they introduce a cowbell and distortion pedal parts for these games. Although, some cowbell could be what these games truly need.

[darknessgp]

My question is how are they going to handle the introduction of other instruments for 4? I'm not sure if thats the one, but it'll basically be like Rock Band then. Except, the drum pad will have cymbals so it won't be compatible with RB then. That's where a large part of my frustration stems from. If I want to have both games I'll have to have a ton of guitars, 2 drum sets, wind up with 2 mikes, and whatever they come with. I'd like to see a standard for these games soon, before they introduce a cowbell and distortion pedal parts for these games. Although, some cowbell could be what these games truly need.

It would be great if they had a standard, too bad it seems Activision/Neversoft don't want that. The PS3 GH3 guitar isn't compatible with Rock Band because Activision told Harmonix they couldn't release the patch that would make it compatible. The only reason they were compatible on the 360 is because of Microsoft's strict controller standards, which is why I believe they made their drums the way they did just so they will not be compatible with Rock Band's. This wasn't a "We are trying make it realistic" (not sure anyone cares other than not having easy breakable plastic drums) There move was clearly a stealing of Rock Band (even the gameplay interface looks like they just put a GH skin on Rock Band) and then tweaked it to force people to buy the instruments.

[dolson]

It would be great if they had a standard, too bad it seems Activision/Neversoft don't want that.

Don't forget Konami!