A use for this " bad environment "

[iccanui]

I was just thinking. Would it not be cool if after we figured out this global warming environmental thing, that we used the same stuff that caused the problems here, to mess with mars and see if we can change it to give it a more earth like environment. I mean we are running out of room here right so there is a potential solution for the future.

I know it sounds wonky but hear me out.

Recently on the surface of mar a few things have come to pass. First off they know there is ice at the poles, ice that if it were hotter on the planet would turn into a gas state ( clouds ). Now more then that the we think we found what could be a lot of ice in recent weeks.

Check it

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/06/17/mars-white-nasa.jpg


Now just look at that picture for a second. To me, and i could be wrong, that looks like a large sheet of ice covered by dirt. For all we know that could be a lake or a ocean thats just been covered by the dust/dirt over the ages. Ok, i know thats reaching, but how about the possibility that there is at least ice in the ground mixed in with the soil. Ice that if the planet was warmer would melt and form pools/lakes/oceans.

Now we know there is already some form of atmosphere on the planet, wind currents and the like, just like on earth. Evidence is shown in this gif of a dust devil.

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mars_06_20/mars_a1.gif

And this pic of clouds

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mars_06_20/mars10.jpg


So wouldnt it be cool if all this horrible stuff we are doing to our world that is forcing us to learn about out environment and more to the point how to regulate it, wouldnt it be cool if in the future we used that to change the surface of mars. Like heating it up with green house gases like co2 which would in turn make it a good place for plants and trees which would in turn create oxygen, melting the polar ice caps, releasing the ice from the ground and giving us a whole new world to colonize.

Hey its possible right? What you think?

Besides, it would make a good movie premise. And yes i saw total recall, but it can be done much better. More 2001ish :)

Anyway, if nothing else, its a fun thought experiment.

[tokenuser]

Read Kim Stanley Robinson's "Mars Trilogy" (Red Mars, Geen Mars, Blue Mars). It might be scifi, but it lays it all out for you :)

[iccanui]

Sounds good. Hey sci fi tends to be the blueprints for science anyway right ? :)

[rabidbadger]

that dust devil gif is amazing, I always assumed mars was as static as the moon...

[rabidbadger]

but yeah, I like your premise, that we can learn from our mistakes, assuming we survive them...

[quix]

I think the premise is great as it would provide a silver lining to the climate crisis and it reminds me of Stephen Hawking's prediction that we'll have to leave Earth eventually if we're going to survive as a species.

[ryudo]

I love astronomy and the idea to traveling to other planets and teraforming and such and I am a big sci fi nut,however I prefer we learn to take care of our own planet before we go junk up another.

[damnedeyez]

The idea of humans colonizing other planets scares me more than anything else. As a species, we're far too destructive and tend not to learn well enough from our mistakes. We're too arrogant in thinking we can control nature without screwing it up even further, distance ourselves from nature and our nature, and generally just ignore things that don't fit with what we want.

...and why does it seem almost taboo to hint that, with the planet overpopulated, maybe having 4 or more kids isn't a good idea?

[phatlip12]

...and why does it seem almost taboo to hint that, with the planet overpopulated, maybe having 4 or more kids isn't a good idea?

2+2=5

[iccanui]

The idea of humans colonizing other planets scares me more than anything else. As a species, we're far too destructive and tend not to learn well enough from our mistakes. We're too arrogant in thinking we can control nature without screwing it up even further, distance ourselves from nature and our nature, and generally just ignore things that don't fit with what we want.

...and why does it seem almost taboo to hint that, with the planet overpopulated, maybe having 4 or more kids isn't a good idea?

Arent we arrogant cause the people at the helm follow ideologies that promote us as being the sole inhabitants of the universe? I would argue that the human race is in need of stretching out and testing this theory. I cant think of a better thing to happen then for us to bump into a race of beings that just put us in our place. Or at least getting off the planet and looking around and expanding our science enough to realize that such a assumption without any evidence, is pretty ignorant.

To me all our problems are cause we are still basically glorified cavemen. We are so ignorant and just assume so much since no one else has proved otherwise. Its time to move past this technological adolescence and un-evolved mindset. Personally i cant wait to get off mother earth, as beautiful as she is and as much as i love her i think its in both our best interest to not be locked on this little blue marble.

[njshadow]

i think its in both our best interest to not be locked on this little blue marble.

You've been watching "Men In Black" haven't you? :D

[iccanui]

You've been watching "Men In Black" haven't you? :D

You know, i counted 52 times that i have watched that movie so far. Well, i actually stopped counting a few years ago, but that was all in 1 year lol.

[njshadow]

You know, i counted 52 times that i have watched that movie so far. Well, i actually stopped counting a few years ago, but that was all in 1 year lol.

Ha ha, I believe it! A+ Movie!

Oops, anywho, back on topic! :D