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ArmpitOfDeath
07-17-2008, 11:37 PM
Here's a question I have of the Tekzilla crew as well as all of you out there.

I'm looking to replace the Macbook Air with something else.

I'm sure this will turn the Apple Fanbois purple with rage but I just don't appreciate Apple's concentration on style to the detriment of many other things which I take for granted in a premium notebook, such as reliability and business-grade build quality. Not only is the machine somewhat compromised to start with - which I was more or less prepared for, but I've had various issues with both of mine which Apple couldn't seem to solve. Good for Starbucks posing, not so good as a genuine travelling / working companion. This is all too typical for Apple as of late and I'm tiring of it.

I'd like to replace the Air for a machine from a manufacturer who understands proper product engineering and real quality as well as design and superficial attention to detail. Unfortunately, the former/latter seem to be incompatible opposites for some reason - while I rate upper-end Sony and Lenovo machines highly for engineering and quality for example, their laptops leave something to be desired in terms of style.

Currently the one and only machine on the shortlist is the Voodoo Envy 133 but I'm concerned about real-life runtime, since they quote a pretty short 3.75 hours - if they're like anyone else I'll probably not see anything much beyond 2.5, which will be a problem even with replaceable batteries. And I'd like to see a shortlist of more than one.

Specwise I'd like something around the Envy as a minimum, and something around the rangetopping Sony SZ as a best case. Weight must be below 3.3lb / 1.5Kg and unlike the forthcoming Sony Z-series for example, the machine must feature quite overt styling / design elements like the Air / Envy, assisted ideally by custom colour options.

Pricewise, I'd like to keep it to under $10,000. I believe that covers the vast majority of notebooks out there, while keeping out the Swarovski-sprinkled monstrosities.

Recommendations would be appreciated.

silentspyder
07-18-2008, 12:05 AM
Please ignore my grape colored complextion but why not a macbook pro?

ArmpitOfDeath
07-18-2008, 12:10 AM
Quite apart from the fact that it dents no sooner than you look at it, the excessive heat, etc - it's completely overweight for this purpose. Not to mention I have several already.

darknessgp
07-18-2008, 03:47 PM
Well, not that I'd say it's super stylish. But I have an HP Tx2500z series laptop Link (http://www.shopping.hp.com/series/category/notebooks/tx2500z_series/3/computer_store?jumpid=in_r329_personalization/browse1/home_SDP) I like it and use it quite a bit at college. It folds into a tablet PC, which is useful some times.

ArmpitOfDeath
07-18-2008, 10:38 PM
I put down the technical criteria in my first post. 5lbs to me is not an ultraportable - it's a "mainstream compact DTR". And style is more than covering a nondescript machine with graphics. Style would be the major part of it, but I'm not willing to have the kind of overt compromises that the Air has, both in terms of expected and (more seriously,) unexpected ones. I have no use for tablets and I have other ultraportables / lightweights.

computoman
07-19-2008, 12:51 AM
I had 4 apple computers till I went all x86 based computers and used apple os at work for a few years. I think personally the air could be called the "hot air". These videos say it all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ERgZ9dztk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hnOCUkbix0&feature=related

burkhartmj
07-19-2008, 05:37 AM
Off the top of my head I'd suggest the Dell XPS M1330. it's a little over your weight limit [3.97 vs 3.3] and battery life is low by your standards [cnet got 2 hours 23 mins with a "grueling" battery test], but its also dirt cheap compared to the air and envy. You get what you pay for. Windows machines dont usually have the battery time that macs do, so im gonna go out on a limb and say the envy's 3.75 is probably the best you're gonna get

I'm not a fan of Apple computers in the least bit and will probably never buy one new [ebay ftw], but why isn't the macbook under consideration? It's light, has decent battery time, and has classic Apple styling. Also, the black casing is nearly unscratchable.

ArmpitOfDeath
07-21-2008, 11:36 AM
The M1330 is overweight for my purpose, it's not what I consider a premium machine and I've recently got rid of all of them that I had, and the Macbook - which I've had 4 of to date, 3 in '06 which suffered all sorts of maladies and the one I tried once again a short while back - is hugely overweight for this purpose.

Windows machines definitely have the battery time that Macs do, and more. The Intel-IGP'd M1330 outstrips the Macbook for example.