i know nothing about computers but im building one

[wungun]

HI my name is AL, and i live in St.Louis Mo. I got up one day an decided to build my own gamming pc with only 700 bucks a hope and a prayer. For starters i know nothing about building one so when i started this build back in May of 08. My friend told me about the show Tekzilla an the monster they where building . I watched the show an heard something of interest when Pat said he was gonna build a gamming pc for 700bucks. I'm like wow thats what I'm trying right now, but unlike Pat i dont know what da heck im doing .So I thought I would star this thread
an find other noobs who share there build experiance with me . So far so good i have been shopping and buying hardware from Tigerdirect and Newegg. I only try buy items that have the following:
1). Free shipping
2). Reduced price/on sale items or deals
3). Rebates
Here are the parts i have brought so far:
from Tigerdirect.com
Asus M2N-SLI Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI, Socket AM2/AM2+, ATX, Audio, PCI Express, Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID price...... $99.00 no rebate or free shipping
Xion Solaris Black/Green ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side, Front USB and Audio Ports and 450-Watt Power Supply price....$59.99 no rebate no free shipping
AMD Phenom 9500 Processor HD9500WCGDBOX - 2.20GHz, 4 x 512KB Cache, 1800MHz (3600 MT/s) FSB, Agena, Quad-Core, Retail, Socket AM2+, Processor with Fan price..$191.00 no rebate no free shipping
Palit GeForce 9600 GT Sonic Video Card - 1GB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, Display, HDMI, S/PDIF price...$189.99 no rebate no freeshipping
total of ...$539.98
note: Tigerdirect did not really offer any type of deals,shipping nor rebates but they had what i was lookin for at the price i was willing to spend .
From Newegg.com
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail price....31.99 free shipping (woooohoooo)
PSU XION|XON-1000R14HE 1000W RT price....$219.99 free shipping and rebate (yea)
*note on psu - At time of purchase i bought this 1000watt modular supply for $219 i check back a day later an now its $299.00 wit a 35.00 rebate and no free shipping (lucky guy)
total of .....251.98 -30.00 rebate = $221.98
***note: Newegg offers some great deals an free shipping on a lot of items the psu i got was a great deal and right price,free shipping and a rebate too boot
I need a harddrive and memory now. So far i have spent ......$761.96 more than the $700 dollars i was willing to spend i only have two more purchases to buy and i think im gonig to Newegg for the final purchase . Next the build wish me luck ....and if anybody has any feedback or suggestions please give me a holla at wungun@gmail.com to tell me im an idot
for doing this . I'm just doing this to have some fun if it blows up ill just enjoy the fireworks .
an thanks for reading this thread

[dark_shroud]

http://www.pricewatch.com/

[frankitank]

I didn't see an OS listed, since you're a self admitted first timer I thought I should mention you need the software as well as the hardware. Unless you have a copy laying around or you're going Linux you need to purchase that as well. You can get an OEM copy when you buy your drive.

[wungun]

I didn't see an OS listed, since you're a self admitted first timer I thought I should mention you need the software as well as the hardware. Unless you have a copy laying around or you're going Linux you need to purchase that as well. You can get an OEM copy when you buy your drive.

Yea i forgot to list it but i am gonna go with windows xp pro 64 my mobo memory can go up to 8 gigs so i was thinking of maxing it out but i understand that my regular xp might not read nor use the full 8gigs but only 4gigs but if i use xp pro 64 the softwear will use the full 8gigs . tell me if im wrong fellas or heading in the right direction. As for linnux i know its a good os because it boots way hella faster than windows an i might just install to see how it runs b4 i spend the $150.00 for windows, but i cant run photoshop an alot of other programes i use and enjoy with linux like i can with windows . I my self am not familiar with linux but i know its a good os an is constantly getting used by more people . From what i heard it is harder for linux to get viruses an get hacked than windows an thats just some word of mouth stuff i heard. Is it true ????????????? ok

[wungun]

http://www.pricewatch.com/

thanks dude u rock

[masherscf]

Ten years ago you could save a shit-load of money by building your own computer. Sadly, I don't think it's worth the trouble anymore. I wouldn't advise anyone unacquainted with building a PC to build one. If you want the learning experience, I'd buy a "bare-bones" system and customize it. Building a PC is';t brain surgery, but you shouldn't learn by scratch building a PC that your going to depend on.

[comhcinc]

Yea i forgot to list it but i am gonna go with windows xp pro 64 my mobo memory can go up to 8 gigs so i was thinking of maxing it out but i understand that my regular xp might not read nor use the full 8gigs but only 4gigs but if i use xp pro 64 the softwear will use the full 8gigs . tell me if im wrong fellas or heading in the right direction. As for linnux i know its a good os because it boots way hella faster than windows an i might just install to see how it runs b4 i spend the $150.00 for windows, but i cant run photoshop an alot of other programes i use and enjoy with linux like i can with windows . I my self am not familiar with linux but i know its a good os an is constantly getting used by more people . From what i heard it is harder for linux to get viruses an get hacked than windows an thats just some word of mouth stuff i heard. Is it true ????????????? ok

linux can get viruses just as easy windows(so can macs btw) but less viruses are made for linux.

have you looked at going with vista 64? i would recommend that of xp

[wungun]

Ten years ago you could save a shit-load of money by building your own computer. Sadly, I don't think it's worth the trouble anymore. I wouldn't advise anyone unacquainted with building a PC to build one. If you want the learning experience, I'd buy a "bare-bones" system and customize it. Building a PC is';t brain surgery, but you shouldn't learn by scratch building a PC that your going to depend on.

Good point i have a reliable computer i use to do my work with, but its the challenge doing it ya self that got me into this mess. I'm learning an ur right 10 years ago i would have saved a but load of money doing it myself i guess my next build would be a time machine and thanks for stopping by an sharing the advice .

[wungun]

linux can get viruses just as easy windows(so can macs btw) but less viruses are made for linux.

have you looked at going with vista 64? i would recommend that of xp

Vista 64???? hmmmm Ive heard a lot of not so positive things about that os but thats was after it was released its been a while an everone Ive talked to say xp pro64 is the way to go
I run xp pro on my work computer an I have no probs vista i dont know but i will look into it
an thanks for the advice

[masherscf]

Good point i have a reliable computer i use to do my work with, but its the challenge doing it ya self that got me into this mess. I'm learning an ur right 10 years ago i would have saved a but load of money doing it myself i guess my next build would be a time machine and thanks for stopping by an sharing the advice .

No, Thank you for stopping by and collecting the advice... I live here.

[comhcinc]

Vista 64???? hmmmm Ive heard a lot of not so positive things about that os but thats was after it was released its been a while an everone Ive talked to say xp pro64 is the way to go
I run xp pro on my work computer an I have no probs vista i dont know but i will look into it
an thanks for the advice
well think of it like this. first i am not even sure you can buy xp anymore.

secondly you mention photoshop. well adobe has annouced that the next verison of photoshop is going to be 64bit native and i don't think xp will be suported. you should read this (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=506)

[slonkak]

linux can get viruses just as easy windows(so can macs btw) but less viruses are made for linux.

Actually, no they can't. One big reason Windows is more succeptable is because the default web browser IS the underlying operating system. Internet Explorer is Explorer.exe which is the OS (for all intents and purposes). That is why you can instantly get a virus just by visiting a malicious web page. If you were to visit that same web page on a machine running Linux or OSX, your default browser doesn't have ties to the underlying OS, and you would be prompted to save the malicious file instead of it automatically executing.

I think the point you were trying to get at is that if you're stupid you're gonna get viruses no matter what OS you use. But it's not as easy on non-Microsoft OSs. Of course, if everyone would just use a non-IE browser on Windows, that would add another layer of security-through-nonstupiditiy. :)

[bigshotprof]

Ten years ago you could save a shit-load of money by building your own computer. Sadly, I don't think it's worth the trouble anymore. I wouldn't advise anyone unacquainted with building a PC to build one. If you want the learning experience, I'd buy a "bare-bones" system and customize it. Building a PC is';t brain surgery, but you shouldn't learn by scratch building a PC that your going to depend on.

It's not worth the money, but it is still fun and a good learning experience.

[bigshotprof]

Vista 64???? hmmmm Ive heard a lot of not so positive things about that os but thats was after it was released its been a while an everone Ive talked to say xp pro64 is the way to go
I run xp pro on my work computer an I have no probs vista i dont know but i will look into it
an thanks for the advice

Can you even still buy XP OEM? I thought I heard they recently stopped selling it.

[comhcinc]

Actually, no they can't.

yes, they can. linux and mac os are not any more secure than windows. the simple fact is windows is just attacked more. that really is the only difference. since windows is prevalent it is easier to spread a virus before it is notice than on other any other os. if you were to build a virus for linux it would be notice before too many machines were affected. mac on the other is just starting to get a large enough presents that i see this becoming a problem.

in fact i would be willing to bet that windows is the most secure because it is attacked so often. didn't they just do this at some hacker con not too long ago?

i do agree with you on the best way to not get a virus is not to be stupid

[frankitank]

Ten years ago you could save a shit-load of money by building your own computer. Sadly, I don't think it's worth the trouble anymore. I wouldn't advise anyone unacquainted with building a PC to build one. If you want the learning experience, I'd buy a "bare-bones" system and customize it. Building a PC is';t brain surgery, but you shouldn't learn by scratch building a PC that your going to depend on.


Is a bare-bones any cheaper, really? I guess it depends on the kit and where you buy, I've never found a bare-bone kit that I thought was a good buy but then again I guess I've never shopped them.

[wungun]

Is a bare-bones any cheaper, really? I guess it depends on the kit and where you buy, I've never found a bare-bone kit that I thought was a good buy but then again I guess I've never shopped them.

well i based my build off an barebones kit i saw at tigerdirect.com i just went ahead an changed the mobo an cpu .....here it is right here take a looky http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3825382&sku=A455-2810%20D

although it is nolonger available
but that is what got me started on this adventure

[wungun]

well think of it like this. first i am not even sure you can buy xp anymore.

secondly you mention photoshop. well adobe has annouced that the next verison of photoshop is going to be 64bit native and i don't think xp will be suported. you should read this (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=506)

i guess vista it is no choice in the matter what so ever

[comhcinc]

i guess vista it is no choice in the matter what so ever
i am sure you will be happy with it. vista really is a nice os.

[frankitank]

If you can swing it.... dual boot xp 32 and 64 bit vista. That's what they are doing on the Maximum PC dream machine this year.

If you have an existing system that came with XP and you have the disk and key number I think that you are leagaly able to install that os on your new machine. If you don't have the key there is an app that will extract it for you so you can write it down.

[comhcinc]

you can do that legal if you uninstall xp off of the other machine.


but frankitank what would be the point?

[frankitank]

you can do that legal if you uninstall xp off of the other machine.


but frankitank what would be the point?

I think as long as you are only using one machine at a time it's still legal.

[comhcinc]

yeah if by that you mean you uninstall it off of one machine, you can't just turn off the other machine.

sorry my mind was elsewhere what is the point of dual booting?

[tokenuser]

yes, they can. linux and mac os are not any more secure than windows. the simple fact is windows is just attacked more. The irony is that most of the infections caused on Windows based computers are instigated from zombie machines that are running compromised *nix installs.

[frankitank]

yeah if by that you mean you uninstall it off of one machine, you can't just turn off the other machine.

sorry my mind was elsewhere what is the point of dual booting?

legacy gaming as in stuff that may not run well in Vista 64 but ran fine under XP. I don't do this myself, I'm still XP on my home machine. I am running Vista 64 on my work laptop and it's great... my only problem is my Cisco VPN client, doesn't work. Otherwise V 64 rocks.

[wungun]

so vista 64 is what i should go with but what about xp pro 64 is it as good as vista im confused
why should i buy a newer os like vista than an os that im familiar with like xp pro 64

[tokenuser]

so vista 64 is what i should go with but what about xp pro 64 is it as good as vista im confused
why should i buy a newer os like vista than an os that im familiar with like xp pro 64The biggest single reason? You will have a hard time finding a copy of XP Pro 64 to purchase. Nothing wrong with Vista, esp on the spec you provided ... just make sure you max out your RAM to 3-4GB.

[comhcinc]

again can you even by xp anymore?

as for the reason why you should software delevlopers are designing for vista now not xp.

vista has been security, a great search feature and i am sure it will you the power of your computer more effectly.

if you know xp then you won't have any problem with vista.

[frankitank]

XP 64 sucked!

Vista 64 = OK


YES, you can buy it (xp that is)! There are still copies in the retail channel and will be for some time to come. Remember, this is your first system build, before you jump on the 64 bit bandwagon you may want to be sure there are 64 bit drivers for any and all of the hardware you want to use, this includes printers, game pads, and etc.

If I were u I would consider building the system using XP 32 and then rebuilding under vista 64 after you are sure the hardware is all working. Maybe someone will let you borrow an unused copy of XP so you don't have to buy it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16837116195

[wungun]

again can you even by xp anymore?

as for the reason why you should software delevlopers are designing for vista now not xp.

vista has been security, a great search feature and i am sure it will you the power of your computer more effectly.

if you know xp then you won't have any problem with vista.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2571830&CatId=672

tem Number: M17-7503
Availability: In Stock


Price: $139.99

check it out

[comhcinc]

spend that much for an eight year old os is kinda like buying a gallon of milk the day before it goes out of date.

[wungun]

i found this reveiw on newegg an sometell me is what he talking about is true



Hey Windows ME--err Vista, eat this

Reviewed By: Andrew on 7/17/2008
Rating + 5Rating + 5Rating + 5Rating + 5Rating + 5
Tech Level: high - Ownership: more than 1 year

Pros: More stable and efficient than Windows Vista. Uses less system requirements, and most games that are ""fully unlocked"" in Vista actually lock you out to force you to upgrade. Every game that I have played like that has been patched by me to allow me to max the settings in game.
Cons: Depending on what you use it for, much less eye candy than Fedora 9, my workstation OS of choice. I dont need eye candy on my gaming rig except in game, so I run XP.
Other Thoughts: To the previous person who says that Vista is the future, you go ahead and think that. I know a few people that said that about Windows ME as well. XP to Windows 7 will be the upgrade path for me. I have Vista, and yes I bought a $270 copy of Windows XP to upgrade to. Turns out microsoft has it backwards, they dont understand that XP *UPGRADE* CD should be able to UPGRADE Vista. I'll wait for SP2, by then Windows 7 will be out

[comhcinc]

only because you want to belive that. never trust a linux user to give a fair report about any microsoft product.

i notice you said that you ''found'' that review. did you happen to read the review under it?

[bani-banan]

I guess the person that wrote that would qualify as a person to test out "project moujave" .

Vista can be process hogging. But you could easily turn off Aero (ironically, my system runs faster with Aero turned on).

Vista uses a different memory allocationing r/wr technique which XP doesn't. That is why when you open up the task manager you drop your jaw looking at the memory usage.

The UAC is the only thing I have to complain about. It's horribly implemented, but it has stopped a few key loggers and other various types of crap. But, it's horribly implemented.

Vista grows on you. SP1 made if faster, but not to the point that it would be a dream.
When I'm on XP, I do miss a couple of vista features. Like the mixer, the in os partitioning tool.

Had this been 2007 and you asked me whether or not you would run out and get Vista, I would say no. But it's mid 2008 and you have no other choice but to get it. Unless you are willing to go the *nix way. If that's the case - welcome to the dark side.

Btw, having 8GB of ram is over kill.


Having iexplore tied into explorer.exe is horrible and I wish death upon the programmer that insisted on doing that.

[davmoo]

I would have preferred to quote original messages, but if I did that on this one I'd be quoting from 8 or 9 different entries, and I'm too lazy for that.

Vista versus XP: Contrary to Mac and Linux fanboy rumor, Vista runs fine. Its like any other OS. If you run it on quality hardware, it works. If you run it on bargain basement hardware, it sucks. With the specs you gave, you'll be fine. And I'm basing this statement on having run Vista since the day the first betas were coming out, and on multiple machines. I'm not simply reading what others who haven't really used Vista for more than a day have had to say and parroting it.

Viruses: Again, saying OS X or Linux are not susceptible to viruses or malware is more fanboy wishing. Malware and bots are organized crime. The days of worms being unleashed by a pimple-faced kid in his parent's basement are over. The crime rings develop their software for the machines they can make the most money from. They're going to go for 90 percent of the market, not the other 6 and 4 percent. When (if) Apple or Linux ever becomes a major force in the world, you'll see just as many Mac bots and Linux bots. I love Linux, so much so that I actually give money and major amounts of server bandwidth to a couple of Linux companies to support their products. But I also live in the real world and don't stick my head in the sand.

Building your own PC: It ain't that hard, even for a first timer, and even totally from scratch. You're doing it to learn. Go for it. Another good reason for building your own is because you want certain components in it...this is why I build my machines myself. If you were doing it to save money, however, the others are right...you'd be wasting your time (and money).

Licensing: No, you can't just turn off one computer and run that copy of XP or Vista on another. It has to be unregistered from the original machine. And whether or not you can, within the terms of the license, move XP or Vista to another machine depends on how you bought it in the first place. If you bought a separate copy of XP or Vista, you can uninstall it from one machine and move it to another as many times as you like (although you may have to make an actual phone call in order to re-register it on the new machine). But if your copy of XP or Vista came pre-installed on your machine (as in there is one of those authenticity stickers stuck on your machine somewhere, and it has a brand name like Dell, Gateway, HP, Compaq, etc), it is considered by Microsoft to be a part of that machine, and it is against the terms of the license to move it to any other machine.

[slonkak]

Viruses: Again, saying OS X or Linux are not susceptible to viruses or malware is more fanboy wishing.

I don't think anyone is saying that they're not susceptible. My original comment was misunderstood by everyone. I said that Linux and Mac do not get viruses AS EASILY as Windows. I never said they weren't susceptible, because they are. Once both of those get more into primetime, you'll most likely see viruses being delivered across web pages that destroy user profiles. But that's the thing with *nix based OSs (and what Vista tried to do even though it's kind of broken), malware can only hurt what you have permission to. So the worst that can happen is you lose your profile and have to make a new one. That is, unless you are always logges in as root. :)

[comhcinc]

I don't think anyone is saying that they're not susceptible. My original comment was misunderstood by everyone. I said that Linux and Mac do not get viruses AS OFTEN as Windows. I never said they weren't susceptible, because they are. Once both of those get more into primetime, you'll most likely see viruses being delivered across web pages that destroy user profiles. But that's the thing with *nix based OSs (and what Vista tried to do even though it's kind of broken), malware can only hurt what you have permission to. So the worst that can happen is you lose your profile and have to make a new one. That is, unless you are always logges in as root. :)

*FIXED*

[slonkak]

Wow... seriously? Let's follow the chain of replies:

linux can get viruses just as easy windows(so can macs btw)

Note how you said "just as easy."


Actually, no they can't.

Note how I said "no they can't," in response to your "linux can get viruses just as easy."


yes, they can.

Your response... As in, yes they can get viruses just as easy.

My next response was a partial retraction, because I realized I used the word susceptible (incorrectly spelled), even though the rest of my post spoke of the ease of infection, not the susceptibility.

So, despite your need to be right, I stand by my comment. I am, in no way, speaking of how often different OSs get viruses. I am only saying that it is _easier_ to become infected if you are using Windows.

[comhcinc]

you can stand by you comment all you want. i don't mind being wrong, and you are right at first i use the wrong words.

i corrected myself then i corrected you, now you should correct yourself too.



that sounds like an late 80s rap song.

[slonkak]

that sounds like an late 80s rap song.

Probably the last good rap song before rap went to crap. :p

[comhcinc]

if it isn't we should write it.

[slonkak]

I know what I'm doing at work tomorrow... :D

[davmoo]

that sounds like an late 80s rap song.

It made my head hurt :)

[wungun]

good grief charlie brown .........ok then so far i learned that computers should wear condoms b4 havin sex with some girl named malicious on her web site and xp is retiring from the drug game to let his mexican brother vista take over meanwhile the la street gangs know as linux and microsoft keep killin each other over some drug named pc all the while some guy named apple is runnig for mayor of sillicon valley .......ok did i get it right

[comhcinc]

pretty much but you forgot freebsd.

[burkhartmj]

I'm not 100% sure where this stuff about not saving money is coming from. You compare a Dell XPS to a DIY with the same specs, the XPS is gonna cost noticeably more. Obviously these DIY laptops are jokes, but the desktops can have distinct price gaps.

And as far as the hackercon thing mentioned earlier, mac was hacked in 5 minutes, Windows the second day, and after 3 days Ubuntu was given up on.

[dark_shroud]

Ironically Macs are the least secure. It's just that nobody goes after them. Linux is a nightmare because you have to figure out what flavor and then which version of said flavor the person is running just to find the bug/security list. After that you have to deal with what the person has done to it after that.

Having iexplore tied into explorer.exe is horrible and I wish death upon the programmer that insisted on doing that.

This is no longer done with IE7. Especially on Vista with IE running in a protected mode at a lower level. Despite what some people say & think with protected mode IE on Vista is the most secure browser.

[tw1stedmoogle]

Quick question if i may...
So if i decide to build a new PC myself should i just instead buy from lets say.. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ ?
I Know they have stupidly cheap prices on hardware and setups there but i always assumed DIY was much cheaper in the end if you buy from the right places.

[wungun]

Quick question if i may...
So if i decide to build a new PC myself should i just instead buy from lets say.. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ ?
I Know they have stupidly cheap prices on hardware and setups there but i always assumed DIY was much cheaper in the end if you buy from the right places.

I too agree i been lookin for a pc like the one im buildin an it seems to get one alreadymade like mine is gonna cost me like 15-18 hundred

[wungun]

HI my name is AL, and i live in St.Louis Mo. I got up one day an decided to build my own gamming pc with only 700 bucks a hope and a prayer. For starters i know nothing about building one so when i started this build back in May of 08. My friend told me about the show Tekzilla an the monster they where building . I watched the show an heard something of interest when Pat said he was gonna build a gamming pc for 700bucks. I'm like wow thats what I'm trying right now, but unlike Pat i dont know what da heck im doing .So I thought I would star this thread
an find other noobs who share there build experiance with me . So far so good i have been shopping and buying hardware from Tigerdirect and Newegg. I only try buy items that have the following:
1). Free shipping
2). Reduced price/on sale items or deals
3). Rebates
Here are the parts i have brought so far:
from Tigerdirect.com
Asus M2N-SLI Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI, Socket AM2/AM2+, ATX, Audio, PCI Express, Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID price...... $99.00 no rebate or free shipping
Xion Solaris Black/Green ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side, Front USB and Audio Ports and 450-Watt Power Supply price....$59.99 no rebate no free shipping
AMD Phenom 9500 Processor HD9500WCGDBOX - 2.20GHz, 4 x 512KB Cache, 1800MHz (3600 MT/s) FSB, Agena, Quad-Core, Retail, Socket AM2+, Processor with Fan price..$191.00 no rebate no free shipping
Palit GeForce 9600 GT Sonic Video Card - 1GB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, Display, HDMI, S/PDIF price...$189.99 no rebate no freeshipping
total of ...$539.98
note: Tigerdirect did not really offer any type of deals,shipping nor rebates but they had what i was lookin for at the price i was willing to spend .
From Newegg.com
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail price....31.99 free shipping (woooohoooo)
PSU XION|XON-1000R14HE 1000W RT price....$219.99 free shipping and rebate (yea)
*note on psu - At time of purchase i bought this 1000watt modular supply for $219 i check back a day later an now its $299.00 wit a 35.00 rebate and no free shipping (lucky guy)
total of .....251.98 -30.00 rebate = $221.98
***note: Newegg offers some great deals an free shipping on a lot of items the psu i got was a great deal and right price,free shipping and a rebate too boot
I need a harddrive and memory now. So far i have spent ......$761.96 more than the $700 dollars i was willing to spend i only have two more purchases to buy and i think im gonig to Newegg for the final purchase . Next the build wish me luck ....and if anybody has any feedback or suggestions please give me a holla at wungun@gmail.com to tell me im an idot
for doing this . I'm just doing this to have some fun if it blows up ill just enjoy the fireworks .
an thanks for reading this thread Okay its done my computer is done and workin i put windows vista on it an it works well vista read my memory as 4gigs im goona put 4 more in soon the machine is very sound an extremly fast i bought a 22 inch monitor an man it is fantastic i have learned that diy is not so bad i got the pc i wanted vs findin one that could have met my need all i have to say is write down what you want your machine to do and build it an do some reasearch an all the parts as well

[river-below]

Quick question if i may...
So if i decide to build a new PC myself should i just instead buy from lets say.. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ ?
I Know they have stupidly cheap prices on hardware and setups there but i always assumed DIY was much cheaper in the end if you buy from the right places.

Waaay cheaper. My really high-end PC I just built in August was about $1800 (Around $1200 without mouse, keyboard, monitor and other peripherals), and the equivalent Alienware was around $2500, same with the HP Blackbird. Also - there IS no equivalent iMac, considering even the most expensive iMac has an 8800 GS in it, which is nowhere near the 4870, or two of them when I decide to buy another for Crossfire.

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Waaay cheaper. My really high-end PC I just built in August was about $1800 (Around $1200 without mouse, keyboard, monitor and other peripherals), and the equivalent Alienware was around $2500, same with the HP Blackbird. Also - there IS no equivalent iMac, considering even the most expensive iMac has an 8800 GS in it, which is nowhere near the 4870, or two of them when I decide to buy another for Crossfire.

Don't quote me on this, but isn't the iMac even worse than that, using the 8800 GS mobile chip instead of a full card?

I do PC, so I've never cared to find out before.