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I feel like Swamp Thing ended up on the Blue Planet that Grundy was stuck on
paulsharkey
09-07-2008, 08:51 PM
I feel like Swamp Thing ended up on the Blue Planet that Grundy was stuck on
It was the same planet all right, It even has the chess board. I wasn't crazy about the whole swampthing in space bit of Alan Moores run.
xebix
09-08-2008, 01:48 AM
What ever happened to Jubilee in the X-Men?
And while I am on the subject of Jubilee, she palled around with Wolverine a lot. Ever notice how Wolvie tends to go for the teen girls? Kitty Pride, Jubilee, and if you want to count the movies, Rogue. Dirty old man much? Sure he has a thing for Jean, but he does seem to like the jail bait.
conorkilpatrick
09-08-2008, 02:53 AM
And while I am on the subject of Jubilee, she palled around with Wolverine a lot. Ever notice how Wolvie tends to go for the teen girls? Kitty Pride, Jubilee, and if you want to count the movies, Rogue. Dirty old man much? Sure he has a thing for Jean, but he does seem to like the jail bait.
He doesn't romance them. He protects them and mentors them.
xebix
09-08-2008, 03:02 AM
He doesn't romance them. He protects them and mentors them.
Man, I have taken some flack for this. I was joking people. Seriously though, anyone know what ever happened to Jubilee?
paper
09-08-2008, 03:08 AM
She's in the New Warriors. She's called Wondra now. So sayeth Wikipedia!
This volume of New Warriors SUCKS
gungadin
09-08-2008, 03:52 AM
Man, I have taken some flack for this. I was joking people. Seriously though, anyone know what ever happened to Jubilee?
She lost her powers after House of M... Beyond that.... I guess she's in the New Warriors...
racemccloud
09-08-2008, 05:51 AM
What ever happened to Jubilee in the X-Men?
And while I am on the subject of Jubilee, she palled around with Wolverine a lot. Ever notice how Wolvie tends to go for the teen girls? Kitty Pride, Jubilee, and if you want to count the movies, Rogue. Dirty old man much? Sure he has a thing for Jean, but he does seem to like the jail bait.
I'm going to back up both you and Conor on this one. Yes, you're right, he spends an oddly large amount of time with teenaged girls (we could even add Armor to your list). This, however, is clearly just a mentor/trainee sort of relationship. Why does he seem drawn to protecting teenage girls? Well, perhaps I'm just playing armchair psychologist, but perhaps he subconsciously feels that he failed to adequately protect Rose (you know, the redhead from the "Origin" mini?) and that feeling of failure/inadequacy is leading him to take under his wing all of these young women who are A.) prone to finding themselves in dangerous situations, and B.) not entirely ready to defend themselves.
Yes, I know James (Wolverine) also had romantic feelings for Rose, but it seems those emotions only projected themselves onto his relationship with Jean Grey, and not onto the other young women he has taken it upon himself to mentor. After all, he is just a fictional character, and a superhero, and that would be uber-creepy. Killing loads of bad guys? No problem. Having the 100 year old mutant be romantically involved with Jubilee? Huuuuge problem.
labor_days
09-08-2008, 09:23 AM
She's in the New Warriors. She's called Wondra now. So sayeth Wikipedia!You're putting me on. This has to be a joke or paper wrote the wiki on it. Wondra? No fucking way someone sane thought that up and went through with it.
racemccloud
09-08-2008, 12:16 PM
I think the whole "Wondra" incarnation of Jubilee would be slightly more upsetting if anyone actually gave a crap.
Still... "Wondra"? Really?
Don't forget Tempest (Angel Salvatore), Blackwing (Beak), Decibel (Chamber), Ripcord (Stacy X), Wind Dancer is there too but I don't know if she has a lame codename
labor_days
09-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Wind Dancer isn't lame enough?
Apparently not, she's got no Wind powers anymore so who knows what she'll end up being.
conanobrien
09-08-2008, 11:44 PM
Rorschach in Watchmen is obviously an awesome character but I'm wondering if he was originally supposed to be The Question. Also what do you think is the best Question story because it seems like a character I want to get into.
conorkilpatrick
09-08-2008, 11:48 PM
Rorschach in Watchmen is obviously an awesome character but I'm wondering if he was originally supposed to be The Question.
Yes, he was.
Moore and Gibbons originally conceived of a story that would take "familiar old-fashioned superheroes into a completely new realm."[5] Initially, Moore looked towards the defunct MLJ Comics line of superheroes for inspiration. "I'd just started thinking about using the MLJ characters—the Archie super-heroes—just because they weren't being published at that time, and for all I knew, they might've been up for grabs. The initial concept would've had the 1960s-'70s rather lame version of the Shield being found dead in the harbor, and then you'd probably have various other characters, including Jack Kirby's Private Strong, being drafted back in, and a murder mystery unfolding. I suppose I was just thinking, 'That'd be a good way to start a comic book: have a famous super-hero found dead.' As the mystery unraveled, we would be led deeper and deeper into the real heart of this super-hero's world, and shown a reality that was very different to the general public image of the super-hero."[6]
Dick Giordano, who had worked for Charlton Comics, suggested using a cast of old Charlton characters that had recently been acquired by DC. However, the Charlton heroes were being slowly integrated into normal DC continuity. Because Moore and Gibbons wanted to do a serious storyline in which some of the newly acquired characters would die and the world would be drastically altered by story's end, using the Charlton heroes was not feasible. Giordano then suggested that Moore and Gibbons simply start from scratch and create their own characters. So while certain characters in Watchmen are loosely based upon the Charlton characters (such as Dr. Manhattan, who was inspired by Captain Atom; Rorschach, who was based upon the Question; and Nite Owl, who was loosely based on the Blue Beetle as well as Batman), Moore decided to create characters that ultimately would only casually resemble their Charlton counterparts.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen)
conanobrien
09-08-2008, 11:53 PM
Interesting stuff thanks for the quick response.
owlboy
09-09-2008, 12:02 AM
There was a pretty good Huntress/Question mini a while back and he was also a main player in 52
deadspace
09-09-2008, 12:36 AM
Rorschach in Watchmen is obviously an awesome character but I'm wondering if he was originally supposed to be The Question. Also what do you think is the best Question story because it seems like a character I want to get into.
oh_caroline in here recommended The Question to me since I mentioned I loved Rorschach's character. I'm just gonna buy the trades, starting with the 1st one I guess.
oh_caroline
09-09-2008, 04:23 AM
There was a pretty good Huntress/Question mini a while back and he was also a main player in 52
I think that's "Huntress: Cry for Blood" by Greg Rucka? Awesome series.
The other one DeadSpace mentioned that I had rec'd is 'The Question' by Denny O'Neil, from the mid-late 80s. It has a couple trades out, currently, and hopefully will get more. It's a self-contained run that made it to about 35 issues, I think? Good stuff.
If you want the new Question, it's pretty much all in 52 + the Crime Bible mini.
kawaiirobo
09-11-2008, 07:42 AM
Ok, first, I'm new to comics, and I know this might be a stupid question, but I don't really get how the whole tie in thing works. For instance, I know secret invasion is going on now, and I'm interested enough to try it out, but what do I need to buy to get the story? Do I need just the run of secret invasion books? Can you just pick up the base story and the tie-ins of characters your interested in? I know I must sound like an idiot, and I'm sorry for that, I'm just a bit confused, since the majority of comics I've been reading so far are finite series like Y and the walking dead, so I'm just not that familiar with the tie-in thing, any help would truly be appreciated.
paper
09-11-2008, 12:29 PM
Ok, first, I'm new to comics, and I know this might be a stupid question, but I don't really get how the whole tie in thing works. For instance, I know secret invasion is going on now, and I'm interested enough to try it out, but what do I need to buy to get the story? Do I need just the run of secret invasion books? Can you just pick up the base story and the tie-ins of characters your interested in? I know I must sound like an idiot, and I'm sorry for that, I'm just a bit confused, since the majority of comics I've been reading so far are finite series like Y and the walking dead, so I'm just not that familiar with the tie-in thing, any help would truly be appreciated.
For Secret Invasion, the only things you really need to read are Secret Invasion, New Avengers, and Mighty Avengers. There are other decent tie-in books, but they aren't essential. Black Panther, for instance, is a lot of fun right now. But it isn't central to the event.
The problem with SI is that Bendis is playing with time. MA and NA feature a lot of flashbacks to earlier stories. There's a new relevance to these older stories because we are now aware that certain characters were actually Skrulls during these pivotal chapters in recent Marvel history. So, if you're not aware of those events, you might be a little confused.
sullivan85
09-11-2008, 02:47 PM
As most here will say, just read what you get interested in! If you are confused about the backstory, just hit wikipedia and you're good to go!
jimski
09-11-2008, 05:16 PM
MISSING!
http://www.readaboutcomics.com/images/040704_alias03.jpg
Have you seen this woman?
kawaiirobo
09-11-2008, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the help guys, yea, I've heard the controversy with SI mucking up marvel continuity, but I want t get in to marvel stuff and there's no time like the present I guess. I'm just gonna dive right in and see if I can get this straitened out. Again, Thanks!
paper
09-11-2008, 05:35 PM
You could always opt to get into DC or Dark Horse stuff instead. Great if you like good things.
I'm mostly kidding.
hank41
09-12-2008, 02:44 AM
or you could just read Image and stop murderating comics
;)
horatio616
09-12-2008, 02:47 AM
DCs continuity is much much less convoluted go read that instead! ;)
hank41
09-12-2008, 03:04 AM
that can be debated though Horatio...but probably. it's easier to pick up any DC title than it is to pick up any Marvel title because it is less likely for something to be involved with Final Crisis than it is for something to be involved with Secret Invasion
racemccloud
09-12-2008, 04:26 PM
DCs continuity is much much less convoluted go read that instead! ;)
I'm going to assume that this is sarcasm.
optimus187prime
09-12-2008, 04:28 PM
I'm going to assume that this is sarcasm.
I hoped that as well.
brandeezy
09-14-2008, 02:09 AM
How exactly does the Spectre operate? He goes after Dr. Light for rape and such but he leaves people like The Joker and Hank Henshaw who have killed hundreds if not more to roam around free. That makes no sense, unless they are doing his god's good work
paper
09-14-2008, 02:17 AM
The Spectre is such an idiotic premise. It makes zero sense for exactly those reasons. And what a lame way to dispense of Dr. Light.
hank41
09-14-2008, 07:25 AM
The Spectre is such an idiotic premise. It makes zero sense for exactly those reasons. And what a lame way to dispense of Dr. Light.
the exact reason why i don't go close to anything with the Spectre
paulsharkey
09-14-2008, 11:54 AM
How exactly does the Spectre operate? He goes after Dr. Light for rape and such but he leaves people like The Joker and Hank Henshaw who have killed hundreds if not more to roam around free. That makes no sense, unless they are doing his god's good work
I would think that as the Joker is Mad and not evil the idea of "God" punishing him would seem wrong just as he can not be killed by man for his crimes as he is not in control. Dr. Light however is evil, I don't know much about Henshaw but I would asume from reading Green Lantern that keeping him alive is punishment enough.
brandeezy
09-14-2008, 01:49 PM
I would think that as the Joker is Mad and not evil the idea of "God" punishing him would seem wrong just as he can not be killed by man for his crimes as he is not in control. Dr. Light however is evil, I don't know much about Henshaw but I would asume from reading Green Lantern that keeping him alive is punishment enough.
That makes no sense. Regardless of the reason why Joker does it, he has killed a lot of people, an act that this decidedly Christian-inspired deity considers to be wrong.
How is Dr. Light evil? He is a glorified thug with light based powers. Yes he raped Sue Dibny, but one could argue that the heroes who mind-wiped him are more morally depraved, with the mental lobotomy and the lying and what not, but regardless he has done nothing on the scale of terror and murder that the Joker has.
paulsharkey
09-14-2008, 04:00 PM
That makes no sense. Regardless of the reason why Joker does it, he has killed a lot of people, an act that this decidedly Christian-inspired deity considers to be wrong.
How is Dr. Light evil? He is a glorified thug with light based powers. Yes he raped Sue Dibny, but one could argue that the heroes who mind-wiped him are more morally depraved, with the mental lobotomy and the lying and what not, but regardless he has done nothing on the scale of terror and murder that the Joker has.
While the actions of the Joker are evil it is impossible to say that he has control over them. His mind has no way of proccesing right from wrong and as such can not be judged in the same way as Dr. Light. The lack of control the Joker has is shown in the Rock of Ages story in JLA where for a moment the chaos of his personality is held back and the horror of what he has done sinks in. I have always seen the Joker as a gun, more the instrament of murder than the driving force.
Christian thinking as far as I understand has always been that you need to be aware of the Crime to be punished (Eve was told not to eat from the tree, ten comandments were handed to Moses). To punish the Joker is only to create one more victom to his crimes. As for the mind wipe, yes I do see that as a crime equal to rape and one that perhaps the JLA'ers should be punished for.
euchre0
09-14-2008, 05:04 PM
Christian thinking as far as I understand has always been that you need to be aware of the Crime to be punished (Eve was told not to eat from the tree, ten comandments were handed to Moses). To punish the Joker is only to create one more victom to his crimes.
Christian thinking as I understand it says that since Adam and Eve, every single person is depraved and separated from God, and that it is not specific actions that condemn a person, but the result of original sin. So if that's the argument, the Joker is as accountable for his life as Dr. Light. So as Paper said, it makes no sense as a concept for the Spectre to randomly be assigned to rain vengeance on one thug, but not someone like the Joker. But come on, it's not like the Spectre writers are, or are even trying to be, priests or pastors. They are just telling stories and using the concept of a higher power as motivation for those stories. And they are typically boring.
conorkilpatrick
09-14-2008, 08:05 PM
I just popped in to say that I love The Spectre. I'm always excited when he shows up.
paper
09-14-2008, 08:09 PM
I do love that he was introduced in More Fun Comics.
esophagus
09-14-2008, 08:15 PM
I just popped in to say that I love The Spectre. I'm always excited when he shows up.What he said.
hank41
09-14-2008, 10:24 PM
I do love that he was introduced in More Fun Comics.
who wasn't introduced in More Fun Comics paper?
i was introduced in More Fun Comics
paper
09-14-2008, 11:14 PM
who wasn't introduced in More Fun Comics paper?
i was introduced in More Fun Comics
This is an odd joke.
owlboy
09-15-2008, 08:38 PM
How old was Bill Batson when he got his powers? And are Freddy and Mary the same age or older?
esophagus
09-15-2008, 09:27 PM
How old was Bill Batson when he got his powers? And are Freddy and Mary the same age or older?I believe Billy was about fifteen. Mary is Billys twin sister, so that makes them the same age. Based on the Junior in Captain Marvel Jr. I assume that Freddy is younger, but don't know how old.
kawaiirobo
09-19-2008, 04:23 AM
Ok, one more secret invasion question, what # of Mighty and New Avengers does secret invasion start? As for all the people suggesting the I read Dark Hourse and Image, your preaching to the choir! I already mostly read indie's, mostly Image and a bit of Dark Horse. As for DC I've been reading the more famous batman arcs and The watchmen as well as Y, but all in all I'm just not as interested in DC, though I wouldn't object to reading a bit of Green Lantern if someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks again everyone, you all have been wonderfully helpful, something I'm not entirely used to on the internet!
esophagus
09-19-2008, 04:31 AM
Secret Invasion, as I understand it, references a lot of previous Marvel events and issues. But as for Mighty and New Avengers that tie directly into it, you should read Mighty Avengers #12-20, and New Avengers #40-47.
If you're interested in getting into Green Lantern than Green Lantern: Rebirth (http://www.amazon.com/Green-Lantern-Rebirth-Geoff-Johns/dp/1401204651) is a good place to start.
dave-accampo
09-19-2008, 05:24 AM
Not fer nuthin' but -- John Ostrander's Spectre series did a decent job of making as much sense of the character as you can make. It's true -- left to his own devices, a godlike Spirit of Vengeance really struggles to fit into DC continuity for exactly the reasons that people have mentioned.
But you can work around things, usually by using the fact that the Spectre is tied to a human spirit (Jim Corrigan, Cris Allen). A human struggling with the concept of the divine mission can lead to all sorts of wrinkles.
kawaiirobo
09-19-2008, 01:46 PM
thanks eso, I really apreciate the help.
hcolyn
09-19-2008, 01:53 PM
I got a stack of Green Lantern comics as a gift but knew nothing about the character(s) really, so I bought Green Lantern: Rebirth and not only was it amazing, it also served as a great intro.
There might be better introductions out there somewhere, but this more than serves the purpose in my opinion.
racemccloud
09-19-2008, 10:04 PM
I got a stack of Green Lantern comics as a gift but knew nothing about the character(s) really, so I bought Green Lantern: Rebirth and not only was it amazing, it also served as a great intro.
There might be better introductions out there somewhere, but this more than serves the purpose in my opinion.
"Rebirth" may well be the greatest Green Lantern story ever told. I know it makes my list of Top Ten comics.
hank41
09-20-2008, 01:03 AM
yeah, that and New Frontier are two of the best
racemccloud
09-20-2008, 02:44 AM
yeah, that and New Frontier are two of the best
Ooo, yeah, that does give it a run for its money. I go with "Rebirth". Love Darwyn Cooke, but Van Sciver is the quintessential GL artist.
owlboy
09-20-2008, 03:02 AM
Like Josh said, I can't wait to recommend the Green Lantern: Secret Origin trade to someone
deadspace
09-20-2008, 04:35 AM
Like Josh said, I can't wait to recommend the Green Lantern: Secret Origin trade to someone
I've just ordered #29-34 off ebay. I've no idea who Green Lantern is but I'm gonna read this anyway (it was recommended to me). I might even like it :D
hank41
09-20-2008, 05:07 AM
I've just ordered #29-34 off ebay. I've no idea who Green Lantern is but I'm gonna read this anyway (it was recommended to me). I might even like it :D
you don't need to know anything about GL going into this arc. i hope you enjoy!
humphrey-lee
09-20-2008, 06:26 AM
I've just ordered #29-34 off ebay. I've no idea who Green Lantern is but I'm gonna read this anyway (it was recommended to me). I might even like it :D
Just know that even though Hal Jordan is the main character, Kyle Rayner will always be better. Ahhh, Fanboy ribbing. I occasionally enjoy doing it myself. :D
humphrey-lee
09-20-2008, 06:29 AM
MISSING!
http://www.readaboutcomics.com/images/040704_alias03.jpg
Have you seen this woman?
Yeah, she's back about five years ago waiting to be back in her own book instead of going un-MAX and losing her edge completely in hopes of quote/unquote "Larger accessibility and increased sales". We call this the "Supreme Power effect".
Yeah, she's back about five years ago waiting to be back in her own book instead of going un-MAX and losing her edge completely in hopes of quote/unquote "Larger accessibility and increased sales". We call this the "Supreme Power effect".
Ha HAH!!!!!
Stupid editors, don't they know we like anal and swearing in our books?
enfuego
09-21-2008, 06:27 AM
Am I the only person who didn't really like Green Lantern:Rebirth? I love Geoff Johns and all that, but the way he got around the whole Parallax aspect of Hal Jordan's history was by creating a lame cop out. I thought that Hal's reaction to the destruction of Coast City and, moreover, his life was very human. Hal lost it and tried to put the pieces back together with the immense power that was available to him. Even as I kid, I realized that the Emerald Twilight storyline was a pretty realistic portrayal of how a person would react (on an emotional level) given the situation. Giant, yellow, fear aliens are f*cking lame. Way to totally strip the character of any accountability. Eh, whatever. Though, Van Sciver's art for that series was amazing.
racemccloud
09-21-2008, 12:54 PM
Am I the only person who didn't really like Green Lantern:Rebirth? I love Geoff Johns and all that, but the way he got around the whole Parallax aspect of Hal Jordan's history was by creating a lame cop out. I thought that Hal's reaction to the destruction of Coast City and, moreover, his life was very human. Hal lost it and tried to put the pieces back together with the immense power that was available to him. Even as I kid, I realized that the Emerald Twilight storyline was a pretty realistic portrayal of how a person would react (on an emotional level) given the situation. Giant, yellow, fear aliens are f*cking lame. Way to totally strip the character of any accountability. Eh, whatever. Though, Van Sciver's art for that series was amazing.
Yes, you are.
No, actually, you're probably not. And the whole Parallax thing introduced in "Rebirth" was farfetched, sure, but it had to be if DC wanted any chance at redeeming Hal Jordan.
Also, it gave a reason (convoluted though it may be) why GL rings don't work against yellow. Personally, I prefer giant yellow fear aliens to an arbitrary weakness made up decades ago for no apparent reason other than to give the most powerful weapon in the universe an Achilles' heel.
dave-accampo
09-21-2008, 03:25 PM
Am I the only person who didn't really like Green Lantern:Rebirth? I love Geoff Johns and all that, but the way he got around the whole Parallax aspect of Hal Jordan's history was by creating a lame cop out. I thought that Hal's reaction to the destruction of Coast City and, moreover, his life was very human. Hal lost it and tried to put the pieces back together with the immense power that was available to him. Even as I kid, I realized that the Emerald Twilight storyline was a pretty realistic portrayal of how a person would react (on an emotional level) given the situation. Giant, yellow, fear aliens are f*cking lame. Way to totally strip the character of any accountability. Eh, whatever. Though, Van Sciver's art for that series was amazing. Oh, I've gone on record as pretty much vehemently disliking that mini-series.
For me, it was one of those stories that only exists to reclaim Hal from the path they set him on. Thus, it automatically and necessarily becomes a plot device surrounded by a lot of exposition about how "Everything you knew was a lie!"
Really held no interest for me. Like Race said, it was probably the only way to get Hal "back" short of a reboot, but... that doesn't mean it was a good story in and of itself.
So... you're not alone. ;)
deadspace
09-21-2008, 04:20 PM
I've a question...
how many more times is Strangers in Paradise gonna make me cry before i finish it?
deadspace
09-21-2008, 10:39 PM
Another question:
is it bad to buy someone a comic book as part of their birthday present when so far they have shown zero interest in comics at all? even just as a tiny part of the present?
i think it is, but i still want to. does that make me a crap friend? lol
hank41
09-21-2008, 11:25 PM
good question. i think it would be cool to show him something new, but he or she might hate it and then it's a shitty b-day present.
just get them $20 to Chick-Fillet
paper
09-21-2008, 11:28 PM
Have they showed zero interest in comics or have they specifically stated that don't want to read comics?
Do you think they'd like it anyway?
deadspace
09-21-2008, 11:45 PM
I can't imagine her not liking it but then I can't imagine anyone not liking it - that's how objective I am here. She loves reading. She knows I read comics these days but hasn't shown any interest herself. She just thinks it's kinda 'geeky'. I gave her 2 issues of Fell to read, which she did (but only because I sat her down and said "read them right now" haha) and she reasonably enjoyed them, but only in a very "I could take it or leave it" way.
What I'd love her to read is Strangers In Paradise. I think it's one of those books that non-comic book readers can read and love. I mean, it's not like handing her a Spider-man book. I know for a fact that anything like that would be a very shitty present for her, simply because she isn't into superhero-anything.
I lent her Fables Vol 1 and We3. She's had both for months and not read them.. lol. I think I'm answering my own question here. :D
I'm just thinking of getting her whatever I would've got her anyway, but Vol 1 of SiP as well. But that still might be really shitty to do that *shrugs*
esophagus
09-22-2008, 12:01 AM
I'm assuming you have a copy of your own? Give her the present and lend her your copy. Say if she likes it you'll get her the next volume or her own copy of the first one.
I can't imagine her not liking it but then I can't imagine anyone not liking it - that's how objective I am here.
Well, there's Conor and Sonia and Sonia seems vehement about her dislike. Listen to the new POW broadcast about Echo.
You can always just buy her the comic without making it a birthday present. There shouldn't be any obligation to read it. She'll discover it on her own.
deadspace
09-22-2008, 12:07 AM
Yeah, I should probably do that. I'll just sit her down like I did with Fell .. heh
Read!
deadspace
09-22-2008, 12:09 AM
Well, there's Conor and Sonia and Sonia seems vehement about her dislike. Listen to the new POW broadcast about Echo.
You can always just buy her the comic without making it a birthday present. There shouldn't be any obligation to read it. She'll discover it on her own.
Yeah but they just mustn't have read it properly. Like read it upside down or something. :D
That's another good idea actually. Just give it to her randomly as a gift one day.
deadspace
09-22-2008, 12:36 AM
edit: nevermind
paper
09-22-2008, 12:40 AM
Not on the site, no. But she explains it on the show.
I also dislike SiP. And everything else of Moore's I've read.
deadspace
09-22-2008, 01:27 AM
Yeah, just realised it was on the latest podcast.
racemccloud
09-22-2008, 01:52 AM
Another question:
is it bad to buy someone a comic book as part of their birthday present when so far they have shown zero interest in comics at all? even just as a tiny part of the present?
i think it is, but i still want to. does that make me a crap friend? lol
No, I don't think so. As long as you give them something that you truly think is a quality work of art, and something that they'll truly enjoy. Just don't give them something that you know is mediocre or, even worse, gag-gift crap.
If you give them something that you love, than that's a gift that comes from the heart, and what could be better than that?
I think that someone who hates a medium of storytelling is just being close-minded. Everyone loves good story, no matter how it's presented. That truth is hardwired into our heritage.
deadspace
09-22-2008, 02:29 AM
I agree with that to a certain extent. But I think my problem comes from giving a gift that I love rather than something I know she'll love. That can come across as selfish.. like pushing my interests onto someone. On the other hand, I do genuinely think she'll like it... until she gets to the part several trades down the line where Katchoo decides she's not gay anymore. That might make her burn every copy she owns. But hey, I can deal with that if we get there. :)
I think I still might just lend her my copy. I can imagine her just going "a comic? you bought me a comic?" and me just nodding and grinning.
I also love SiP. And everything else of Moore's I've read.
Just realised you made a typo there. I fixed it for you. :p
thenextchampion
09-22-2008, 04:38 AM
I'm just not a fan of the guy period, but I can see where the talent is. He is perfect on writing women in comics, and not make them sex objects like most writers do. But I just wasnt interested in SIP and his Mary Jane series is just as boring....But I do see talent in him and I'm not saying he's a bad writer. Hey I cant wait to find and read the first Echo trade cause that has peaked my interest.
Question: What is considered the most disturbing moment in comic history? My vote is the nun from Rick Remender saying 'Let Nuns Suck'......*throws up*
deadspace
09-22-2008, 05:06 AM
I'm just not a fan of the guy period, but I can see where the talent is. He is perfect on writing women in comics, and not make them sex objects like most writers do. But I just wasnt interested in SIP and his Mary Jane series is just as boring....But I do see talent in him and I'm not saying he's a bad writer. Hey I cant wait to find and read the first Echo trade cause that has peaked my interest.
I think with Strangers in Paradise, it's the kind of book that if you read the 1st trade (which is only 3 issues) and didn't like it then the chances are that won't change throughout the series.
What's really hooked me is the fact that I see bits of myself in both Francine and Katchoo, and I see parts of my best friend in them both too. And without getting too soppy :o, reading SiP for me is like reading about my love for my best friend in a comic book. It's made me cry.. several times, like seriously broken my heart, cos on the one hand I've grown so attached to the characters that they seem real and that just by reading the book I'm invading their privacy (that's mental, i know) but also because I'm thinking about me and my life and my best friend and how much i love her. If you don't identify with those characters in some way then you're going to be missing a huge chunk of what makes SiP so incredible. Well I think so anyway.
Echo on the other hand is more story-driven than SiP so I can see how you could like Echo but not SiP.
Question: What is considered the most disturbing moment in comic history?
Preacher.
One extremely long disturbing moment in comic book history.
deadspace
09-27-2008, 12:32 AM
How is the POW percentage calculated?
racemccloud
09-27-2008, 12:34 AM
How is the POW percentage calculated?
I assume like all percentages: A numerical calculation of the size of one part of a whole, assuming that the "whole" is equal to 100.
deadspace
09-27-2008, 01:01 AM
I assume like all percentages: A numerical calculation of the size of one part of a whole, assuming that the "whole" is equal to 100.
well that's what I thought too, but obviously isn't because at one point, when Golly had about 32 pulls, it had a POW percentage of 0.96%.
so something else must be being used as "the whole"... which is what I was wondering really
esophagus
09-27-2008, 01:05 AM
I'm guessing it would go on ratings rather than pulls.
Best average rating (with number of pulls factored in, somehow), or something. Who knows.
deadspace
09-27-2008, 01:09 AM
I dunno what ratings has got to do with potw though
I doubt pulls have anything to do with it.
It could be everyone who pulled it loved it, it could be people who didn't pull it picked it, could be that not many people actually choose a POW at all
Unless my math is way off (which is entirely possible) it looks like there's only about 100 people who picked a POW. I just POWd Powers and it went up a full percentage point.
deadspace
09-27-2008, 01:31 AM
it could be people who didn't pull it picked it
well you cant pick something as POW unless you've pulled it
Unless my math is way off (which is entirely possible) it looks like there's only about 100 people who picked a POW. I just POWd Powers and it went up a full percentage point.
that would make sense if Golly hadn't had a POW of 0.96% when there were fewer people who had picked their POW (because it was yesterday).
then when I picked Golly as my POW, it went from 0.96 to 3.2 (or 3.something anyway). that was a bit weird.
Going from 0.96 to 3.2 on one vote doesn't make any sense to me...
You're right. Sounds like something's broken or there's something else weighting the percentages somehow.
deadspace
09-27-2008, 01:54 AM
Going from 0.96 to 3.2 on one vote doesn't make any sense to me...
You're right. Sounds like something's broken or there's something else weighting the percentages somehow.
Unless... I voted when I hadn't refreshed in a while, and other people had chosen it as their POW in that time...? Who knows?
Conorrrrrrr! Yoohoo!
Well my 1% jump was off a fresh page load so that part is for sure.
deadspace
09-27-2008, 02:48 AM
Ok, you can change your POW so I was just playing about with it there:
when I choose Golly, it goes from 1.5% to 3.4%
when I choose I Kill Giants, it goes from 1.3% to 2.3%
when I choose Fables, it goes from 0.07% to 0.29%
still can't work it out.