And that's an eight-tenths deduction for New Comics Discussion for 08/13/2008! [Archive]

ConorKilpatrick

08-13-2008, 05:58 PM

Tell us what you thought of the books of the week!

Here's what Josh (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Josh/comics), Ron (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Ron/comics), Conor (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Conor/comics), and Gordon (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Gordon/comics) are reading.

This week's Pick of the Week

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From here on out, it's SPOILER-O-RAMA.

Don't forget to rate and review the books over at iFanboy.com (http://www.ifanboy.com/comics)!

horatio616

08-13-2008, 06:22 PM

Okay, I finally get what Morrison's doing in Batman RIP and I like it. Pretty novel way to take something old and make it new again. Batman, and by extension, Grant Morrison, is one smart mofo.

Secret Invasion 5 is what I've been wanting all along. The actual invasion didn't give us much to sink our teeth into, but now that the heroes are starting to get their shit together, the story is finally finding its legs. Very nice.

Ellis's Astonishing X-Men has the nice witty dialogue of Whedon's run, but something vital is missing. There just isn't the pizzaz in the storytelling that Whedon gave us. It's told in a very straightforward way, relying more on the dialogue and the art rather than any storytelling techniques to engage the reader. I do like the new take-charge Cyclops, though, who's been given a Hal Jordan-esque charisma makeover. The art will be a turn off for many/most, but I applaud Marvel taking a chance on one of their big books. Solid, if not spectacular.

Mark Millar has obviously seen both the FF movies and said to himself, "I can do better," and he has. He's basically taken the movie characters, added a little more substance to Reed and Sue while leaving Ben and Johnny the same, and inserted them into a non-hokey story. It's not the best issue of the run, but it gives us a nice cliffhanger.

kwok_talk

08-13-2008, 07:20 PM

Mark Millar has obviously seen both the FF movies and said to himself, "I can do better," and he has. He's basically taken the movie characters, added a little more substance to Reed and Sue while leaving Ben and Johnny the same, and inserted them into a non-hokey story. It's not the best issue of the run, but it gives us a nice cliffhanger.
I've been a little underwhelmed by the arc so far. But what a great two page layout of the reveal at the end. I literally gasped.

horatio616

08-13-2008, 07:44 PM

I've been a little underwhelmed by the arc so far. But what a great two page layout of the reveal at the end. I literally gasped.

I chalk that up to both the decompressed storytelling and the fact that the FF are just hard to write. I think when this can be read in one volume it's going to be quite nice.

kwok_talk

08-13-2008, 07:49 PM

I chalk that up to both the decompressed storytelling and the fact that the FF are just hard to write. I think when this can be read in one volume it's going to be quite nice.

I think that’s a valid point. Thinking about it a bit more, I think most of my disappointment is with Hitch’s art. For some reason I thought I remembered enjoying it more previously than I am now. Not sure if it’s due to me remembering inaccurately or it actually not being as good as before.

horatio616

08-13-2008, 08:06 PM

I think that’s a valid point. Thinking about it a bit more, I think most of my disappointment is with Hitch’s art. For some reason I thought I remembered enjoying it more previously than I am now. Not sure if it’s due to me remembering inaccurately or it actually not being as good as before.

His cityscapes look great in this issue, but I think he's sacrificing attractive faces for speed.

bigyanks

08-13-2008, 08:41 PM

Does anyone read The Walking in issue anymore? its really good.

deadspace

08-13-2008, 09:39 PM

Any of you pick up Welcome To Hoxford?

There isn't enough love going on for Ben Templesmith.

Dave Accampo

08-13-2008, 10:32 PM

Dave Accampo

08-13-2008, 10:38 PM

And Secret Invasion was really cool. I've not really been as disappointed in this as others have been. It's always felt like an "Independence Day" style blockbuster to me. We've had this big threat of invasion, we've been shocked to find out that many of those we trust are skrull invaders, and... the last two issues have been about the resistance rallying. And now we see the tide about to turn. I'm enjoying the main book. I think it will read better in trade, though.

I'd be curious to see how this book reads to someone who is NOT reading the Avengers books. I mean, everyone's saying "Oh, all the good stuff is happening in the side books", but everyone's also reading all of those. I'm not convinced that this isn't a fun romp if you ONLY read this series. It'll probably lack some resonance, some weight, but in the end, I think you're going to get an alien invasion turned back by Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Nick Fury, etc. And that's still kinda cool.

Neb

08-13-2008, 10:54 PM

I'd be curious to see how this book reads to someone who is NOT reading the Avengers books. I mean, everyone's saying "Oh, all the good stuff is happening in the side books", but everyone's also reading all of those. I'm not convinced that this isn't a fun romp if you ONLY read this series. It'll probably lack some resonance, some weight, but in the end, I think you're going to get an alien invasion turned back by Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Nick Fury, etc. And that's still kinda cool.

I haven't been reading any of the side books, and it's been pretty disappointing so far. I actually loved the first issue, disliked the last three, but I had a blast with this issue. Hopefully, with this turning point, Bendis doesn't dwell but moves the story forward.

Dave Accampo

08-13-2008, 10:56 PM

I haven't been reading any of the side books, and it's been pretty disappointing so far. I actually loved the first issue, disliked the last three, but I had a blast with this issue. Hopefully, with this turning point, Bendis doesn't dwell but moves the story forward.

Alright, fair enough. :) Do you think the last three issues would feel different if you read them all in one sitting (in a trade)?

horatio616

08-13-2008, 11:43 PM

Only read two books so far, and I have to say I pretty much agree with Horatio's assessment of each:

Batman RIP is a far cry better than last issue. I'm still not always loving the way Morrison's TELLING the story, but this was much cleaner... we really got not only the IDEA, but we got to see it placed clearly into the story.

I guess the only thing I'm really not digging (and this is just OPINION, folks) is that I think it would be waaaay cooler if the villains tearing apart the Batman were all the classic Bat villains instead of the Joker and all these new guys. This is NOT to say that I don't like new villains, but that they're just sorta dropped in here without enough build-up (at least if you're just jumping on like me). The nature of the whole "we killed the Batman" thing seems like it would be soooo much cooler if it was, like, the cast from Arkham Asylum.

But that's just me.

Actually, the villains are my favorite part. Yeah, they're a bit deliberately weird, which Morrison is wont to do, but Batman writers use the classic villains to death. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we didn't see Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, et al for about five years.

Speaking of the Joker, nice touch by Morrison to have Batman and Joker each adapt their personality to their individual situations. May or may not be an intentional nod to The Killing Joke, in which Batman and Joker are portrayed as equally insane, but in opposing ways.

horatio616

08-13-2008, 11:49 PM

I'd be curious to see how this book reads to someone who is NOT reading the Avengers books. I mean, everyone's saying "Oh, all the good stuff is happening in the side books", but everyone's also reading all of those. I'm not convinced that this isn't a fun romp if you ONLY read this series. It'll probably lack some resonance, some weight, but in the end, I think you're going to get an alien invasion turned back by Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Nick Fury, etc. And that's still kinda cool.

I try to read every comic as though it's the first time I've ever read one (hence my annoying cynicism), and the only part that I felt might not resonate with the new reader is Norman Osborne being suddenly thrust into the limelight.

I really liked Reed being all kick ass. Certainly not the milquetoast we see in the movies!

Neb

08-14-2008, 12:44 AM

Alright, fair enough. :) Do you think the last three issues would feel different if you read them all in one sitting (in a trade)?

Possibly. After this whole she-bang is done, I'll probably read all the issues in one sitting. Usually, when I judge an issue, I've forgotten what happened a month ago and rely on the book to keep me informed and to thrust me back into the momentum. Bendis got the "bringing me up to speed part right." The momentum...not so much.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 12:58 AM

Actually, the villains are my favorite part. Yeah, they're a bit deliberately weird, which Morrison is wont to do, but Batman writers use the classic villains to death. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we didn't see Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, et al for about five years.

Yeah, I totally get that -- it's very much a personal taste thing. I've NO problems with the villains he's created, they just have had no time to resonant with me for feel truly chilling.

I remember trying to explain to someone that it was an alien that just beat Superman to death in the 90s. "Not Lex Luthor with some kinda kryptonite death trap?" "Nope." He was disappointed. When your characters are mythological icons, I like it when you play to that. Supes SHOULD be killed by Lex if you're gonna do that story. Who the fuck is Doomsday? :)

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 12:59 AM

I try to read every comic as though it's the first time I've ever read one (hence my annoying cynicism), and the only part that I felt might not resonate with the new reader is Norman Osborne being suddenly thrust into the limelight.

I really liked Reed being all kick ass. Certainly not the milquetoast we see in the movies!

I do the same thing -- and if you ever need a wake-up call, sit down with a significant other unfamiliar with comics and read an issue together. You'll immediately see what works and what doesn't. Real eye-opener.

Six Gun

08-14-2008, 01:17 AM

t I remembered enjoying it more previously than I am now. Not sure if it’s due to me remembering inaccurately or it actually not being as good as before.

Laura Martin colored The Ultimates and she's a much, much better colorist than Paul Mounts

Ryan79

08-14-2008, 01:25 AM

Maybe I just wasn't in a great mood when I read my books, but I was just underwhelmed by everything I read.

BPRD: The Warning- This is my first BPRD series and I think I may have picked the wrong starting point. I'm familiar with all of the characters, mainly due to the attention the movies have received, but it still feels like I'm missing huge chunks of this story. I also didn't realize when I started getting this mini that this was a continuation from another mini-series. But..we all have to start somewhere I guess.

Cthulhu Tales and Fall of Cthulhu: Godwar- Too much Lovecraft for one day. I keep telling myself to drop these books, but I'm *just* intrigued enough by the story (and MAN has it been dragging) to keep them on my pull list for another month.

Young Avengers/Runaways: Secret Invasion- I didn't enjoy this one as much as the first issue. Apparently Hulkling was the Skrull messiah that could have prevented the whole invasion. Who knew? Seems kind of unnecessary to me.

Amazing Spider-Man- This is my POW mainly due to process of elimination. It was good fun, an appearance by D-lister Vermin (always a sucker for those little used bad guys) and the art was solid. Next week is the controversial debut of Anti-Venom and I'm looking forward to it, more out of morbid curiosity than anything else.

Secret Invasion- Man, did a lot of stuff happen this issue. Maybe it's because the story was moving a bit slow in the last four issues and I was just used to that pace so this felt like too much, too soon. It was good, don't get me wrong, but it just seemed really rushed. I loved seeing Norman Osbourne as the voice of reason, though. He's been written so well lately.

So all in all it was a weird week. Everything was just kind of..."meh". But on the bright side, I did get a package today from instocktrades.com that contains the latest Y: The Last Man and Fables trades, as well as Scud: The Whole Shebang. That should help cleanse my palate.

horatio616

08-14-2008, 01:45 AM

Ryan79

08-14-2008, 01:59 AM

Hmm, I see the problem. You're reading the wrong books! ;)

You shut your whore mouth!

....but you're right. I have no excuse. But hey, at least I'm not reading Astonishing X-Men. That has to count for something.

horatio616

08-14-2008, 02:11 AM

You shut your whore mouth!

....but you're right. I have no excuse. But hey, at least I'm not reading Astonishing X-Men. That has to count for something.

Go back to your home on Whore Island!

My copy of Astonishing X-Men #26 could totally beat up your copy of Young Avengers/Runaways: Secret Invasion The End, Men and X-Men-Annihilation Conquest volume 2; Special Secret Edition or whatever it's called.

You should check out Hellboy: The Crooked Man. It's Yoplait Yogurt "Getting out of this bridesmaid dress" good.

Also, Young Liars. What a crazy-ass book! I love it!

bgavino

08-14-2008, 02:43 AM

A so so week for me.

Secret Invasion- What a big disappointment. They ended the last issue with great promise with the shadowy figures of Cap and Thor and do they follow up on that no. We are still stuck on the island with people standing around talking to each other about who is and isn't a skrull. It was cool to see Reed up and about but can we please get them off the island and actually fighting the invading force?

Action Comics was my POW it was just so damn good. Johns is writing his ass off on this book. The art was top shelf and I like how they are showing you what Braniac actually looks like. Really cool issue.

Astonishing X-Men 26 was pretty good it was better than the last issue but there was just some stuff that threw me off. Some of Cyclops dialogue was a little off I guess. There is some thing I dislike about this book I just don't know what it is.

Final Crisis revelation was fine. Why they killed Doctor Light I don't know but what ever. They finally made him into a really good villain and then they kill him off in a tie in book? Overall though I liked it.

Captain Britain and MI3 was awesome. I really had fun with this I wish this was the main secret invasion book it is so much better than the actual Secret Invasion book. But I guess this is an ongoing though which rocks!

Batman I don't know. I can't even comment on this book because quite frankly I didn't know what the hell was going on. I am pretty well versed in Batman and his history and the DCU but I wasn't following this story so until I can make sense of it I can't say whether I liked it or not.

Also as for FF Meh. That is all I have to say. I don't know when this takes place. It just makes no sense so they captured Galactus? Where is the Silver Surfer? Just meh. Also I hate to say this but I like the late Bryan Hitch a lot more than I like the on time Bryan Hitch.

Bryan

Neb

08-14-2008, 03:06 AM

Before I hit the hay, I wanted to highlight my reviews for the week. I had a kick ass week in comics, and I go to bed tonight with my brain full of wonderful stories and a smile across my face.

This week, I reviewed...

Final Crisis: Revelations #1 (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/Neb/dc_comics/final_crisis_revelations/1_(of_5))
Secret Invasion #5 (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/Neb/marvel_comics/secret_invasion/5_(of_8))

...and my POW Batman #679 (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/Neb/dc_comics/batman/679).

s1lentslayer

08-14-2008, 03:06 AM

Ron must have gotten lost on the way to the comic book shop...no PotW yet. My shop didn't get their books today so I have to wait until tomorrow:(

horatio616

08-14-2008, 03:14 AM

I've done a 180 on Batman: RIP.

Here's my review:
http://ifanboy.com/reviews/ultimatehoratio/dc_comics/batman/679

bgavino

08-14-2008, 03:18 AM

Ok you're Batman review kind of helped me out a bit with what is going on. I have re-read it and I actually enjoyed it more.

Bryan

horatio616

08-14-2008, 03:27 AM

Ron must have gotten lost on the way to the comic book shop...no PotW yet. My shop didn't get their books today so I have to wait until tomorrow:(

I believe he's at a live Diggnation show in San Jose.

horatio616

08-14-2008, 03:28 AM

horatio616

08-14-2008, 03:32 AM

Also as for FF Meh. That is all I have to say. I don't know when this takes place. It just makes no sense so they captured Galactus? Where is the Silver Surfer? Just meh. Also I hate to say this but I like the late Bryan Hitch a lot more than I like the on time Bryan Hitch.

Bryan

I think this is more satisfying if you think of it as a companion to the movies and not a part of regular Marvel continuity. The Johnny and Ben in this book are the movie versions, but Millar juices up the personalities of Reed and Sue. Think of it more as a stand-alone story.

SnowOxx

08-14-2008, 04:35 AM

is it just me or am I the only one who is excited about the Walking Dead #51?

bigyanks

08-14-2008, 05:30 AM

is it just me or am I the only one who is excited about the Walking Dead #51?
I was very excited about this issue, I think to many people readi g this in trades.

ConorKilpatrick

08-14-2008, 05:32 AM

I believe he's at a live Diggnation show in San Jose.

He's not.

ConorKilpatrick

08-14-2008, 05:33 AM

I was very excited about this issue, I think to many people readi g this in trades.

Yeah it's terrible when consumers get to chose their preferred format... :rolleyes:

horatio616

08-14-2008, 12:51 PM

He's not.

Oh, must have misread a twitter or something.

bgavino

08-14-2008, 03:04 PM

I think this is more satisfying if you think of it as a companion to the movies and not a part of regular Marvel continuity. The Johnny and Ben in this book are the movie versions, but Millar juices up the personalities of Reed and Sue. Think of it more as a stand-alone story.

Yea I would be fine with that if Marvel said that but they aren't. Galactus isn't a big cloud, Dr. Doom isn't the lame character he was in the movies this run has been pretty steeped in the Marvel U so far so I can't see it as a companion to the movies. Now it's just kind of getting boring. The story as a whole was ok and the issue itself was pretty good. It just annoys me they are comopletely ignoring current continuity unless they delve into the Silver Surfer thing the next issue.

Bryan

CAM!

08-14-2008, 03:24 PM

It just annoys me they are comopletely ignoring current continuity unless they delve into the Silver Surfer thing the next issue.

Bryan

Your gonna have to let that go, Millar's run, while in the FF universe, is most definately NOT in continuity.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 04:11 PM

Still working through my books.

Green Arrow/Black Canary was alright. I've realized that any character development here has taken a back seat to plot, plot, plot. And it's boring me. It's not him, it's her! Well, big deal... now tell me why. It's been 11 issues. I just feel like it hasn't even been about GA or BC or why the two of them make a good couple or crimefighting team. It hasn't even been about GA's grief like the early issues.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 04:14 PM

Yea I would be fine with that if Marvel said that but they aren't. Galactus isn't a big cloud, Dr. Doom isn't the lame character he was in the movies this run has been pretty steeped in the Marvel U so far so I can't see it as a companion to the movies. Now it's just kind of getting boring. The story as a whole was ok and the issue itself was pretty good. It just annoys me they are comopletely ignoring current continuity unless they delve into the Silver Surfer thing the next issue. I have no idea what current FF continuity is supposed to be, so I guess that's why I enjoyed this issue. :) Didn't love it... Still don't feel it's quite up-to-par with, say, the Ultimates... but Galactus as fuel for a ship? That's just awesome. I'm enjoying this arc more than the last, for sure.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 04:17 PM

Action Comics was fantastic again. LOVED the Supergirl bit in the beginning. I'm actually excited for them to fold Supergirl's book more closely into the Superman books, based on this issue. The Brainiac stuff is creepy while still playing on some of the classic Superman mythos.

I haven't read my Vertigo books, or stuff like Walking Dead, but thus far it would probably be Secret Invasion or Action Comics as my Pick this week.

GungaDin

08-14-2008, 04:18 PM

I have no idea what current FF continuity is supposed to be, so I guess that's why I enjoyed this issue. :) Didn't love it... Still don't feel it's quite up-to-par with, say, the Ultimates... but Galactus as fuel for a ship? That's just awesome. I'm enjoying this arc more than the last, for sure.

I completely agree. When I saw Galactus I was like "But wasn't he just in Nova?" and then I decided I didn't care because it was so fucking awesome.

kahunablair

08-14-2008, 04:20 PM

Yeah it's terrible when consumers get to chose their preferred format... :rolleyes:

Shut your mouth, Trade reader!! You are single handily killing the industry!

;)

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 04:21 PM

I didn't like Astonishing X-men as much as last issue, but I'm still enjoying it. I don't have the art problems that many people have -- I like Bianchi's work here. And there's some great banter here, too. It's just not the most exciting part of the storyline. We'll see how it goes. I like Armor. I like the way Ellis is playing Storm. I like the way Cyclops actually talks about killing so matter-of-factly. Not that he's a killer, but that he has killed, and so has Storm. I feel like it's addressing the shift, but within the proper context (so that they're not just outright becoming the Mutant Authority).

JasonTodd

08-14-2008, 04:23 PM

I, like a lot of other people loved Batman RIP this week. Everything is starting to come together.

But, I can't believe more people aren't talking about Action Comics. It was great this week, and like the Legion storyline, this arc is shaping up to be EPIC. I loved Superman seeing Brainiac for the first time, the meeting between Cat Grant and Supergirl, the skull ship coming to Metropolis, etc. My POW.

My opinion of Secret Invasion hasn't changed though. Still feel like this is dragging, and apparently pretty uninteresting unless you're reading everything else.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 04:25 PM

Final Crisis: Revelations was good, and I like they way Tan depicts the Spectre, but I HATED the way he depicted the Question. Such a simple character concept, yet a lot of artists can't seem to make the Question look as cool as she should.

Rucka's story was a good start, but... I feel like he really wanted to tell the next stage of Question's story, and thus found a way to mix it with the Spectre's story. Can't we just give Renee her own series yet? :)

Anyway, this was all set-up. I still don't quite have a grasp on the Crispus Allen Spectre, but I'm intrigued to see where we go from here.

bgavino

08-14-2008, 04:32 PM

Final Crisis: Revelations was good, and I like they way Tan depicts the Spectre, but I HATED the way he depicted the Question. Such a simple character concept, yet a lot of artists can't seem to make the Question look as cool as she should.
Rucka's story was a good start, but... I feel like he really wanted to tell the next stage of Question's story, and thus found a way to mix it with the Spectre's story. Can't we just give Renee her own series yet? :)
Anyway, this was all set-up. I still don't quite have a grasp on the Crispus Allen Spectre, but I'm intrigued to see where we go from here.

Why did you think of the way they handled Dr. Light? They way they dispatched him kind of bugged me.

Bryan

JasonTodd

08-14-2008, 04:35 PM

Why did you think of the way they handled Dr. Light? They way they dispatched him kind of bugged me.

Bryan

I agree, I liked this issue, but Dr Light was kind of killed off-handedly

kahunablair

08-14-2008, 04:48 PM

All in all, I was really happy with my stack.

Secret Invasion finally hit the second issue. As far as I'm concerned issues 1-4 are all one issue. Leave me alone.
Batman RIP finally clicked. Interesting take. So BatMite is also a mental safeguard for Bruce?
Captain Britian was actually kind of Meh. It felt like a "It was all a dream" style resolution to me.
Amazing Spiderman is keeping the goofy fun going along. I can beleive that a Spiderman book has been this consistent for this long.
Thor Secret Invasion was pretty fantastic. It looks like it's going to be a good series!
Booster Gold didn't really do it for me this week. Don't know why, but I'm not a fan.
X-Men Secret Invasion was interesting. I really liked the art.
Runaways/ Young Avengers Secret Invasion seems alright, I guess. Not a fan of the art.
Walking Dead was AWESOME! Even though I saw it coming in a way, it still floored me.

I'm still going through my stack, but that's how I'm feeling so far.

kahunablair

08-14-2008, 04:50 PM

Quick question, Final Crisis: Revelation readers. I have it waiting to be read, but should I read Gotham Central first?

JasonTodd

08-14-2008, 04:53 PM

Quick question, Final Crisis: Revelation readers. I have it waiting to be read, but should I read Gotham Central first?

I never read that series and I had no problem figuring out what was going on.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 04:56 PM

Why did you think of the way they handled Dr. Light? They way they dispatched him kind of bugged me.

It didn't bother me because he's always been kind of a lame villain. I WILL be annoyed if he's just up and walking around again in a few months (he's been dead before, too).

Here's the fundamental problem with the Spectre, though: he's hugely powerful, and he's supposed to be judging and dispatching evil-doers. This is how he was set up in Ostrander's classic Spectre series. So... in theory, he should have killed off half of the DCU villains by now... simply showing up when they commit crimes and offing them (a la Dr. Light).

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 04:58 PM

Quick question, Final Crisis: Revelation readers. I have it waiting to be read, but should I read Gotham Central first?

Nah, you don't need to read it. All you need to know is: Crispus Allen was a GCPD detective. He died. And yet he still walks the earth, connected to the Spectre, the spirit of God's vengeance.

That's about all you need to know entering this.

Oh, there was a Spectre mini-series in which he was forced to take the life of his son, as the Spectre.

kahunablair

08-14-2008, 05:03 PM

Thanks, guys. I wanted to read it last night, but I figuered I'd better double check first.

As for the Spectre, has anyone read the Blue Beetle arc with him "guest starring"? It was actually a pretty great little arc. The Spectre was just going nuts in a Prison offing different criminals. I recommend giving it a shot.

JasonTodd

08-14-2008, 05:09 PM

It didn't bother me because he's always been kind of a lame villain. I WILL be annoyed if he's just up and walking around again in a few months (he's been dead before, too).

I'll admit that he had been lame, but after Identity Crisis, I thought he was revamped into a pretty cool, psychotic villian. Plus, IC explained away his lameness.

hank41

08-14-2008, 05:24 PM

wow. i can't wait to get off work so i can grab my books today, because i didn't grab my book (i would say books, but i only have Final Crisis pulled) last week either

CAM!

08-14-2008, 05:33 PM

But, I can't believe more people aren't talking about Action Comics. It was great this week, and like the Legion storyline, this arc is shaping up to be EPIC. I loved Superman seeing Brainiac for the first time, the meeting between Cat Grant and Supergirl, the skull ship coming to Metropolis, etc. My POW.

Action, while great, just doesn't really have that much to talk about. I mean what's to be said? "this part was cool, so was this" and on and on. It felt to me like exactly what you expected to happen after last issue happened with some funny supergirl stuff.

bgavino

08-14-2008, 05:55 PM

It didn't bother me because he's always been kind of a lame villain. I WILL be annoyed if he's just up and walking around again in a few months (he's been dead before, too).
Here's the fundamental problem with the Spectre, though: he's hugely powerful, and he's supposed to be judging and dispatching evil-doers. This is how he was set up in Ostrander's classic Spectre series. So... in theory, he should have killed off half of the DCU villains by now... simply showing up when they commit crimes and offing them (a la Dr. Light).

Yea but like JasonTodd said they built him up and mad him into a sick psycho bad ass after Identity Crisis and then kiled him off in like two pages. I was just dissapointed by that. I also had the same problem you had with the Spectre but I think because of what Dr. Light did to Sue Dibny he was kind of picked and deemed as the biggest scum bag of all the DCU villians. May-be that is why Rucka picked him.

Bryan

kahunablair

08-14-2008, 06:12 PM

I just read Hellboy: Crooked Man #2. That is some good comics, right there!

horatio616

08-14-2008, 06:14 PM

Action, while great, just doesn't really have that much to talk about. I mean what's to be said? "this part was cool, so was this" and on and on. It felt to me like exactly what you expected to happen after last issue happened with some funny supergirl stuff.

I love Gary Frank. I'll have to pick up this trade.

bigyanks

08-14-2008, 06:58 PM

Shut your mouth, Trade reader!! You are single handily killing the industry!

;)

aurgghhh i was just answering the intial question that why no one was talking about walking dead. I was reading this in trades myself but jumped into the single issues. Funny thing Kahuna i watched Kirkmans rant and stated how he makes alot of money off trades soooooo. whatever. Walking Dead was awesome. My POW and a majority of the communities,
iFanboy Community Pick of the Week Percentage: 57.6%

kahunablair

08-14-2008, 07:32 PM

I hear ya. Walking Dead is definetly up there as a potential POW. I don't normally like to do a POW type deal, but maybe I'll start because of the new site's ability.

Labor_Days

08-14-2008, 08:22 PM

Batman 679 was outstanding.

Morrison, you magnificent bastard.

optimus187prime

08-14-2008, 08:45 PM

Anyone read X Men Origin Jean Grey ? I thought this was pretty good, the art is fantastic! What are they doing with all of these Origin stories? All of them are labled #1 so that would make me think there are going to be more.

Ryan79

08-14-2008, 09:07 PM

Can't believe I forgot to mention Captain Britain and MI-5. It was a close runner-up for POW. I LOVED the Satannish-Pete Wisdom stand-off. I guess having all of these supernatural baddies running around explains Blade's appearance next month. Works for me. I groaned a little at the "No More Skrulls" line, though. I was bummed that John the Skrull was offed. Not because I felt anything for character, he was too new to me to get attached to him. I was more bummed because I saw a lot of potential with him and was curious to see where the writers were going to take him.

CammyKnoxville

08-14-2008, 10:01 PM

Welcome To Hoxford #1 - A majority of the time when I'm reading a horror comic, or a very graphic comic, I sometimes stop and ask myself; "What happened in this writer / artist 's life that made him what he is today?!" Ben Templesmith is one of those people that comes across as "fucked-up" to me. Yet, I can't help but love his gruesome art style. (My complete review at iFanboy (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/CammyKnoxville/comics/welcome_to_hoxford/1))

Astonishing X-Men #26 - Turns out, I'm now only picking this book up for the art. While the story for the past two issues has been so-so, there have been quips of dialogue between Armor (my new favorite) and Wolverine that have made me laugh out loud. The dialogue can only keep my frustration at bay for so long, before I eventually come to expect a better story from Ellis that what he's dishing-out right now. (My complete review at iFanboy (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/cammyknoxville/marvel_comics/astonishing_x-men/26))

Action Comics #868 - I'm one of those people who is not a fan of Superman. I think he has too many powers, is pretty much invincible, and is the biggest Boy Scout on the planet. However, with the right storyteller at the helm, Superman can be pretty damn awesome. (My complete review at iFanboy (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/cammyknoxville/dc_comics/action_comics/868))

ConorKilpatrick

08-14-2008, 10:03 PM

[b]I think he has too many powers, is pretty much invincible, and is the biggest Boy Scout on the planet.

You just named three of the reasons why he's one of my favorites.

CammyKnoxville

08-14-2008, 10:15 PM

You just named three of the reasons why he's one of my favorites.

Sometimes that can get really old for me. But like I said, with the right writer (Johns, Morrison) it can be an awesome character.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 10:16 PM

i still have a handful of comics to read, but the more I think over it, the more Action Comics really stands out. FAntastic blend of storytelling and art. I think maybe Secret Invasion is at the top of my list because it's just plain exciting -- we're at the best part of the summer blockbuster action movie -- but... Action Comics is really holding up as an unexpected but amazing treat. Batman impressed me this week, but Action was better (art's waaaay better and the storytelling is just cinematic and clear).

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 10:17 PM

Was a little let down by BPRD: The Warning this week. Still good comics, but I think just by the chapter of the story we're on, it just wasn't as funny or creepy or dramatic as other issues.

Haven't read Hellboy: Crooked Man yet, but looking forward to it.

deadspace

08-14-2008, 10:39 PM

paper

08-14-2008, 10:42 PM

There's a giant howling baboon in Action Comics. For no real reason. Win.

Hellboy: Crooked Man is probably my pick, but because it's part 2 of 3, it's sorf a bridge. Great art and writing, but not as exciting as the first issue. Can't wait for part 3 though.

Labor_Days

08-14-2008, 10:44 PM

Does Crooked Man feature Lobster Johnson?

If not, what do I need to read to get more Lobster. I got the Iron Prometheus already.

Paper, I place this burden on you.

CammyKnoxville

08-14-2008, 10:47 PM

Does Crooked Man feature Lobster Johnson?

If not, what do I need to read to get more Lobster. I got the Iron Prometheus already.

Paper, I place this burden on you.

Sadly, no Lobster Johnson in Crooked Man. In the last issue of B.P.R.D. - The Warning, his spirit makes an appearance.

I'm in the same boat as you: more Lobster Johnson in comics, dammit!

paper

08-14-2008, 10:51 PM

BPRD features Lobster Johnson. Especially recently. I'm not giving details because it's spoilery.

He's also in Hellboy: Conqueror Worm.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 10:52 PM

Yeah, Lobster Johnson appears to have some kind of role in upcoming issues of BPRD: The Warning (and his spirit was in the last issue), so that's the place to be for Lobster.

Crooked Man is more of a straight up horror folktale, set in 1958. Great stuff.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 10:56 PM

There's a giant howling baboon in Action Comics. For no real reason. Win.

I think it's an allusion to Brainiac 5's little albino monkey from Legion. Named "Koko."

Also note: there are other characters on the Brainiac ship, including what looks to be "Ultra the Multi-alien." I think I have that right, right?

paper

08-14-2008, 10:58 PM

As soon as I typed it, I was like...yeah, that baboon is probably a callback. Ah, well. Still dope.

Labor_Days

08-14-2008, 11:01 PM

But you see, the thing is...I don't like anything Hellboy except for Lobster Johnson. I just want more Lobster badassery, really.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 11:04 PM

As soon as I typed it, I was like...yeah, that baboon is probably a callback. Ah, well. Still dope. OH totally.

paper

08-14-2008, 11:05 PM

His scene in Conqueror Worm is a flashback and does not include Hellboy.

If you don't like Hellboy, you're a bad person.

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 11:05 PM

But you see, the thing is...I don't like anything Hellboy except for Lobster Johnson. I just want more Lobster badassery, really.

Yeah, in that case, I wouldn't recommend BPRD (it's good, but probably not your cuppa). You're probably best off waiting for the next LJ series -- if one ever comes.

Labor_Days

08-14-2008, 11:06 PM

Sadness. For me.

Edit: Should say that I admire Hellboy as property, Mingola's skill and decision making. It's all fantastic. And would further admit Hellboy is frequently good (that I read anyway). For whatever reason the character, and by extension the franchise, fails to hook me just so.

paper

08-14-2008, 11:11 PM

I don't really see why you'd like one and not the other. That's interesting.

CammyKnoxville

08-14-2008, 11:15 PM

True story: I almost dressed-up as Lobster Johnson for Comic-Con this year. I bailed at the last second when I couldn't find the right NERF gun.

Secret Invasion #5 - Bendis and Yu make the excellent team, and continue making this Marvel event extremely enjoyable for readers both old and new. (My complete review at iFanboy (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/cammyknoxville/marvel_comics/secret_invasion/5_(of_8)))

Green Lantern Corps #27 - Peter J. Tomasi has been doing nothing but amazing things for this title, and I owe him a drink because of it. With such an extensive cast of characters to play with, it seems like we are always being introduced to someone new each issue. Or revisiting old friends from previous issues. (My complete review at iFanboy (http://www.ifanboy.com/reviews/cammyknoxville/dc_comics/green_lantern_corps/27))

Dave Accampo

08-14-2008, 11:21 PM

I don't really see why you'd like one and not the other. That's interesting. I can see it (maybe). Lobster's an offbeat take on a pulp hero. He's still pretty straightforward as an action hero of the 30's. But Hellboy steps more into the Weird Tales territory, mixing pulp adventure with horror. If i were to hazard a guess? I think the maybe the horror stuff is where it goes off the rail for Labor.

Labor_Days

08-14-2008, 11:57 PM

I can't explain it either. Hellboy has everything going for it. It was made for me- top notch writing and art, creator integrity, consistency, pulp adventure, horror, mythology and great use of the medium.

Yet...I don't love Hellboy. I admire it from afar.

Iron Prometheus and the Lobster character are the only things I've been able to hang my hat on in the Helloy U.

horatio616

08-15-2008, 12:19 AM

I grabbed my pitchfork and my torch* and got here as fast as I could. I heard there's people 'round these parts that don't like Hellboy.

*Torches are not as easy to make as you'd think.

GungaDin

08-15-2008, 05:11 PM

So I read Booster Gold last night, looking forward to it because it's Dixon and Booster Gold and how can that not be good, and it was... different, but it just had that same sort of feel of Booster on a rollicking adventure through time and space. I went back and forth on some of it and it was partially confusing, but man, do I love writers playing with the DCU through Booster Gold...

And one other comment: Hellboy: The Crooked Man. Damn freaky, damn good comic... Damn good...

Humphrey Lee

08-15-2008, 07:30 PM

For those of you not paying attention at all (or just in TPB form) 100 Bullets still is the shit. Hell of an issue. Six more to go. Whew...

optimus187prime

08-15-2008, 08:29 PM

For those of you not paying attention at all (or just in TPB form) 100 Bullets still is the shit. Hell of an issue. Six more to go. Whew...

Yeah Im waiting for the trade on this series. It is absolutely one of my favorite books, sucks it is ending but I am sure Azz has something special for us.

deadspace

08-15-2008, 08:34 PM

For those of you not paying attention at all (or just in TPB form) 100 Bullets still is the shit. Hell of an issue. Six more to go. Whew...

I'm going to start it soon - as in from the beginning! I've read the first issue, looks great. I'm looking forward to it.

optimus187prime

08-15-2008, 09:15 PM

I'm going to start it soon - as in from the beginning! I've read the first issue, looks great. I'm looking forward to it.

It changes a lot after the first 2 or 3 arc's. It gets better in my opinion, but some have stated that is when they lost interest, so be aware. I fell in love with this series in the first trade, but I can see how all of the conspiracies, and betrayals would get confusing.

Six Gun

08-15-2008, 11:42 PM

Batman was f'ing brilliant.

The best part?

Right when the guy with the six shooters gets to the question "who'll come a waltzing matilda with me?" Robin is asking Knight and Squire to join in the danse macabe

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 12:05 AM

The dude with the bucket helmet and six shooters is called Swagman.

Six Gun

08-16-2008, 12:50 AM

The dude with the bucket helmet and six shooters is called Swagman.

yes, and he was singing an invite, while Robin sent one

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 01:05 AM

No, really the best part of Batman was Bat-mite and the Bat-radia reveal. Especially since it pissed off so many people last issue. I loved it.

Humphrey Lee

08-16-2008, 03:19 AM

Yeah Im waiting for the trade on this series. It is absolutely one of my favorite books, sucks it is ending but I am sure Azz has something special for us.

I'm double dipping on this for sure and rebuying it in trade (or possibly HC) once it's over. Definitely a top ten book for this decade, even if the ending happens to be slightly average or so.

horatio616

08-16-2008, 03:57 AM

Where's Six? I saw this comic called Garth Ennis' Battlefields: the Night Witches #1 and immediately thought of him.

Six Gun

08-16-2008, 04:28 AM

Where's Six? I saw this comic called Garth Ennis' Battlefields: the Night Witches #1 and immediately thought of him.

Whoa whoa whoa.... I need this book

Dave Accampo

08-16-2008, 06:22 AM

No, really the best part of Batman was Bat-mite and the Bat-radia reveal. Especially since it pissed off so many people last issue. I loved it.

Really? Didn't piss me off last issue (there were far worse things about the issue). But this didn't strike me as great reveal -- I mean didn't we all see it coming? I dunno, I never thought the radia or Bat-mite were real. What I DID like was the explanation that Zur--whatever was this safety personality created by Bruce (rather than him just cracking).

optimus187prime

08-16-2008, 01:04 PM

Where's Six? I saw this comic called Garth Ennis' Battlefields: the Night Witches #1 and immediately thought of him.

What do you mean saw? I thought October was "Ennis Month" for Dynamite.

horatio616

08-16-2008, 01:31 PM

What do you mean saw? I thought October was "Ennis Month" for Dynamite.

Oops I meant to say "saw in Previews".

optimus187prime

08-16-2008, 01:35 PM

Oops I meant to say "saw in Previews".

Cool, I thought I missed something this week or you are best pals with Garth.

horatio616

08-16-2008, 01:45 PM

Cool, I thought I missed something this week or you are best pals with Garth.

I thought we were best friends, but he won't return my emails/texts/phone calls/hand-written notes. Plus he lowers his shades right in my face! whenever I look in his window.

optimus187prime

08-16-2008, 01:47 PM

I thought we were best friends, but he won't return my emails/texts/phone calls/hand-written notes. Plus he lowers his shades right in my face! whenever I look in his window.

Bollocks....

Six Gun

08-16-2008, 05:13 PM

Batman Confidential = Pick of the Week, I wish that DC'd stop the anthology nature of the title and leave Maguire and Niceaza on for good.

Action Comics = Awesome, but the Daily Planet's new staff is crutch that Johns is using for easy LOLz, If not for the Supergirld/Cat Grant scene, it would have been my POW

paper

08-16-2008, 05:16 PM

Ha, the Cat Grant/Supergirl scene pushed it over the top to make it my POW. Fits the tone of the book and makes good use of the extended cast.

hank41

08-16-2008, 05:21 PM

same here. i love that dynamic. Johns can go for the cheap shot as much as he wants. i'll just eat it up every time. my POW

Six Gun

08-16-2008, 05:36 PM

Ha, the Cat Grant/Supergirl scene pushed it over the top to make it my POW. Fits the tone of the book and makes good use of the extended cast.

Disagree, how many times is he going to hammer in the fact that Cat Grant is a narcissistic slut? Seriously, it's lazy writing. "Let's point out she has implants... again". Her character has some real depth with her feelings about the death of her son, but that's been left on the floor.

But really, this is the only weak point in an otherwise astounding book. The scenes with Superman and Brainiac were utterly superb, and the New Krypton arc will most likely be the greatest Superman story... ever(?) (at least in YEARS)

Also, GARY FRANK!!!!!!! Braniac actually looked like a forebearer of Braniac 5!

hank41

08-16-2008, 05:42 PM

holy shit! Gary Frank is turning into one of my favorite artists out there. he is just superb. he has a great sense for telling story and also giving great poses

paper

08-16-2008, 05:48 PM

It's a running joke. Fits the tone/setting.

hank41

08-16-2008, 05:49 PM

exactly, great tone

horatio616

08-16-2008, 05:52 PM

holy shit! Gary Frank is turning into one of my favorite artists out there. he is just superb. he has a great sense for telling story and also giving great poses

Go back and check out his work on The Hulk.

hank41

08-16-2008, 05:56 PM

good, thanks. i was gonna ask if anyone had some recommendations for his older stuff. thanks

Six Gun

08-16-2008, 06:02 PM

It's a running joke. Fits the tone/setting.

I'm not going to argue this any more, because I think the book is absolutely fantastic and I don't want to come off as sounding too down on Johns. :) But my stance on the subject is that it's not up to par with the rest of the comic.

crippler

08-16-2008, 06:04 PM

Action Comics - Not as great as the first two issues of the Brainiac run, but still very good. Do I understand it correctly that Johns is saying Superman has never actually run into the real Brainiac before? Is there a reason this biological as opposed to mechanical creature is as strong as Superman? I don't get it. Liked the book enough to tell my FLCBS to put me down for Supergirl at the start of the New Krypton arc... It'll be the first ever that I buy a Supergirl book. I'm scared of what's happening to me.

Batman - This was great. My POW simply because it sets up the finale really well. Now it's just up to Morrison to deliver. His track record there isn't stellar (remember the end of New X-Men?), but I want to believe baby.

Trinity - I don't know why this book is getting no love. It's a really solid title. Something tells me it's because so many other books right now are all about fitting into the greater DC universe continuity (Final Crisis, R.I.P) and so a book happening outside of DCU continuity is simply not getting a second look.

potential spoilerishness ensues
Final Crisis #5 - Blech. Let me get this straight. Way back at the start of this, Reed Richards said there was no way to tell a Skrull impostor from a real person. Now he shows up after having all of 3 free minutes, with a complete Skrull-reveal-O ray? Are you kidding me? What the heck was the point of everything that happened on the island? Nothing changed! Did I miss something, or did not a single hero get deceived in any kind of meaningful way? What a waste of 4 issues. On top of that, the fact that every single Skrull has so far been killed raises some serious questions for me.. that I think need to be addressed in a different thread. Mainly, why is it ok to kill skrulls? I mean, since when has Spiderman been a killer? Would he really have sat back and watched all the greenies get butchered?

horatio616

08-16-2008, 06:04 PM

good, thanks. i was gonna ask if anyone had some recommendations for his older stuff. thanks

He had a pretty long run on the Hulk. The best issue is--not sure if I'm right here--#416, which is Rick Jones's bachelor party. Captain America inadvertently hires a stripper. Good stuff.

Also look into the Marvel Max series Supreme Power. Worth reading.

horatio616

08-16-2008, 06:06 PM

How long was that "frumpy Supergirl" arc and is it worth getting?

ConorKilpatrick

08-16-2008, 06:08 PM

Batman Confidential = Pick of the Week, I wish that DC'd stop the anthology nature of the title and leave Maguire and Niceaza on for good.

Maguire can't draw a monthly book. Hasn't been able to since the late 80s.

Action Comics = Awesome, but the Daily Planet's new staff is crutch that Johns is using for easy LOLz, If not for the Supergirld/Cat Grant scene, it would have been my POW

The supporting cast is the best part of Action.

Six Gun

08-16-2008, 06:16 PM

Maguire can't draw a monthly book. Hasn't been able to since the late 80s.

The supporting cast is the best part of Action.

So is this the "put Six Gun down" post? ;)

hank41

08-16-2008, 06:19 PM

it can be

:D

optimus187prime

08-16-2008, 06:22 PM

So is this the "put Six Gun down" post? ;)

I got your back bro, they are just jealous of your costume.
http://www.family-vacation-getaways-at-los-angeles-theme-parks.com/images/HollywoodBlvdSuperman.gif

kwok_talk

08-16-2008, 07:13 PM

It's raining eyeballs.

Tomasi is one creepy (awesome) dude.

Dave Accampo

08-16-2008, 07:33 PM

It's a running joke. Fits the tone/setting. Agreed, and not only that, that scene wasn't really about Cat Grant -- it's about Supergirl. I don't follow this new version of SG (the last incarnation I followed was Peter David's version), so I really have no idea what she's all about. But in that ONE scene, I "got" her. That's good writing.

hank41

08-16-2008, 08:00 PM

yeah, me too. i understood the character almost completely just with that scene

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 08:32 PM

Batman Confidential, POW. Phenomenal~!

Changed my mind about Gaydos. I want Maguire to draw my life now.

hank41

08-16-2008, 08:35 PM

even my face doesn't have the range of faces that he draws. and im a human!

Euchre0

08-16-2008, 08:45 PM

He had a pretty long run on the Hulk. The best issue is--not sure if I'm right here--#416, which is Rick Jones's bachelor party. Captain America inadvertently hires a stripper. Good stuff.

Also look into the Marvel Max series Supreme Power. Worth reading.

JMS' Midnight Nation was also good. I definitely suggest the trade to anyone who likes Gary Frank, even if they don't have faith in JMS.

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 08:46 PM

I love the page with Babs punching the big Russian dude to no effect and her internal dialogue.

This is what All Star Batgirl should be like.

Fuck it. I'm calling this run of Batman Confidential- All Star Batgirl and fuck you DC for not giving it to me sooner.

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 08:58 PM

Batman Confidential = Pick of the Week, I wish that DC'd stop the anthology nature of the title and leave Maguire and Niceaza on for good.

High five bro.

GungaDin

08-16-2008, 09:56 PM

Fuck it. I'm calling this run of Batman Confidential- All Star Batgirl and fuck you DC for not giving it to me sooner.

If Johns and Jones ever do get around to doing it, I'm bringing this out to haunt you...

hank41

08-16-2008, 09:58 PM

never gonna happen

ConorKilpatrick

08-16-2008, 09:59 PM

If Johns and Jones ever do get around to doing it, I'm bringing this out to haunt you...

I'd rather have Maguire than Jones. And Fabian just nails Barbara*.

*You know what I mean!

hank41

08-16-2008, 10:17 PM

good point. i'd rather have McGuire on...everything.

plus, i don't really like jones

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 10:31 PM

Jones is good. That is a given. But Maguire is in the upper tier of artists for me. One of my very favorite artists- Maguire.

I don't know if Johns can write a Batgirl better than Nicenza.

This is Batgirl.

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 11:16 PM

Eh, I felt SI #5 was a little boring. I liked that it moved things forward but it took an awful lot pages to get to the point. Still, a lot of badass moments I enjoyed.

Questions: Did Hawkeye kill the Skrull-Mockingbird or did Widow shoot her?

Also, where did Luke Cage come from? Suddenly he was right there with Widow, Stark and Logan and what the fuck happened in the time he was kicking Skrull ass and then?

hank41

08-16-2008, 11:26 PM

i was thinking the same thing about Luke

Labor_Days

08-16-2008, 11:27 PM

Holy shit, Walking Dead.

I think that was one of the most effective issues of WD. Oh man. I am still reeling here,

Labor_Days

08-17-2008, 12:20 AM

Wait, I changed my mind on the 3rd reading of Batman 679. That's my official, for real, POW.

Its just so goddamn brilliant. "Might! Did the gargoyles just speak? Quite! The city if talking to me!~!!"

Labor_Days

08-17-2008, 12:27 AM

Also, I fucking love Beryl.

There should be a Beryl ongoing written just for me. She can have adventures such as that time she hacked the pocket universe; or that time a murderer was on the loose in an old mansion by the sea...

Six Gun

08-17-2008, 02:44 AM

High five bro.

High five! wait, no way! you're going with Batman now? Shall we never share a POW? ;)

Humphrey Lee

08-17-2008, 05:36 AM

Go back and check out his work on The Hulk.

Or Supreme Power. That was pretty much awesome stuff. Not to diss Johns at all, because the storytelling on Action is obviously of high quality, but I don't think it'd be terribly memorable without Frank's art backing it up. Art doesn't necessarily sell me on a book, but by god when you have top notch art it does wonders to elevate a good story and I think it's doing wonders for this run right now.

Labor_Days

08-17-2008, 10:31 AM

High five! wait, no way! you're going with Batman now? Shall we never share a POW? ;)

I am setting a new precedent right here and now.

Labor's Co-POW, Batman #679 and Batman Confidential #20.

optimus187prime

08-17-2008, 12:54 PM

Questions: Did Hawkeye kill the Skrull-Mockingbird or did Widow shoot her?

Pretty sure that was all Hawkeye.

Six Gun

08-17-2008, 03:06 PM

I am setting a new precedent right here and now.

Labor's Co-POW, Batman #679 and Batman Confidential #20.

K, we're cool then

Six Gun

08-18-2008, 12:35 AM

so Transhuman seriously jumped the... er... leaped the selachimorpha this week.

What the hell? LOLcats and monkey rape? Seriously? You're better than that Hickman

horatio616

08-18-2008, 01:10 AM

so Transhuman seriously jumped the... er... leaped the selachimorpha this week.

Good one, Six!

All the Hickman stuff is always gone by the time I get to my LCS. I'm waiting for trades on Red Mass, Trans, and Pax Romana.

GungaDin

08-18-2008, 02:27 AM

so Transhuman seriously jumped the... er... leaped the selachimorpha this week.

What the hell? LOLcats and monkey rape? Seriously? You're better than that Hickman

I don't agree. I thought it was good. I just find myself slightly lost when reading it monthly. It'll read much, much better in the trade...

And the rape thing was dealt with in a rather humorous manner, and it's interesting to show the dichotomy of how the monkeys act when running free before they [plot twist at the end].

Humphrey Lee

08-19-2008, 06:17 AM

To bring it up before this thread fades away by Weds and this week's books, and because I'm writing up a review of it now, everyone be sure to check out GOLLY! #1 at the shop this week from Image and by Phil Hester. Seriously, I don't know if it has a chance in hell of surviving, but I hope it does because this really does have the look of something special. I loved the hell out of this first issue and am all about an extended run for it. Try it, it won't hurt you, though I might if you don't... :D

Six Gun

08-19-2008, 12:06 PM

hank41

08-19-2008, 03:04 PM

Humphrey Lee

08-19-2008, 06:52 PM

Ok, I'll look for it.

You're damn straight you will!! :mad:

Honestly, it's not the greatest thing ever, and this first issue was definitely a good bit of "running the paces" setting the premise and what kind of mostly humorous tone it's going to use, but it just has the feel of something that should be around for a while and rock while it's at it. They likened it to PREACHER and THE GOON in the solicits which is why I gave it a shot, and while the former comparison is a HUGE stretch, the second one is pretty damn apt, and we all know how killer that book is, right?

If you hate it though, well then I get to laugh at your misfortune for trusting me... :D