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brianpatz
08-15-2008, 07:01 AM
So I just read secret invasion...and I see now.
Its getting good now. 3 issues left. They're at war...they've
regrouped...know who's who and its on. Its about to start. All the set
up. All the explanation of how its happened, whats actually been happening
is all done. There have been really great revelations, and now the illuminati has
a role in the cause of the secret invasion (sure obvious but a great way to tie it all in)
And I've also seen that fantastic four, iron man, daredevil, wolverine, captain america
and anything that is way out of continuity that people have been griping about...how can
reed be captured if he's fighting giant robots on man made earths IN a giant galactus suit
(why wouldn’t you want to read that?) all of those titles just give you the option of not having
to read secret invasion but still enjoy the characters you may love. You don't actually
need to read secret invasion to get a spiderman story (good or bad), or a wolverine story
or fantistic four.....Its all there for you or anyone. New readers and the ingrained ones.
Marvel may have finally succeeded where they have failed in the past. Remember civil war?
Or did they purposely make that bad and just a mess on purpose? That allowed for the death of
captain america to play out by itself in captain america....now secret invasion makes the rest of it
not matter much, that whole spiderman new day magic spider, or whatever the hell that was, took care
of the demasking of spiderman. What else in civil war is really going to make any kind of difference?
How easy will it be for both sides to make up and play nice? Civil war, once they play out the captain
america bit, won't make ANY difference what so ever. I've never written anything about comic books.
I've never posted, or had any real desire or reason to write anything. Marvel has really impressed me with this.
for as long as they've been doing it, issue one of new avengers? really? This may be the best marvel has ever been.
I'd say all those m words marvelites usually say at the end of the letters page, but as I've said...I've never written
anything about or into a comic. I can't say those words....I'm sorry. I'm.....I'm just sorry is all. Rah Rah Marvel.

bgavino
08-15-2008, 01:53 PM
In my opinion no not at all. I think the best era of marvel Comics that i've been around for (so excluding the 80's era of Simonson Thor, Miller Dardevil, Claremont X-Men and others) was may-be the first like three years of the Quesada Jemas era when all these new writers who had never worked for Marvel before started like Morrison, Milligan, and Ennis just to name a few. I was so into Marvel at that point because I had just gotten back into comics around that time and Marvel was really the place to be. Almost every week you would hear an announcement about a big time writer writing some thing for Marvel. Lately Marvel has just been jumping from event to event just to,in my opinion, jack up sales. The main books are not as good as they used to be. The only saving grace for Marvel is Brubaker every thing he writes is gold. Don't get me wrong Marvel is not terrible now they have great writers like Brubaker, Fraction, Bendis, and others I just don't think this is the best Marvel ever was not even close.

Bryan

horatio616
08-15-2008, 02:23 PM
In my opinion no not at all. I think the best era of marvel Comics that i've been around for (so excluding the 80's era of Simonson Thor, Miller Dardevil, Claremont X-Men and others) was may-be the first like three years of the Quesada Jemas era when all these new writers who had never worked for Marvel before started like Morrison, Milligan, and Ennis just to name a few. I was so into Marvel at that point because I had just gotten back into comics around that time and Marvel was really the place to be. Almost every week you would hear an announcement about a big time writer writing some thing for Marvel. Lately Marvel has just been jumping from event to event just to,in my opinion, jack up sales. The main books are not as good as they used to be. The only saving grace for Marvel is Brubaker every thing he writes is gold. Don't get me wrong Marvel is not terrible now they have great writers like Brubaker, Fraction, Bendis, and others I just don't think this is the best Marvel ever was not even close.

Bryan

I'm in totally agreement with this. Jemas was all about taking chances. You're not seeing as much of this nowadays at Marvel. When Jemas was around, you never knew when Marvel might cancel a book and then bring it back with a bold new direction like they did with X-Force. Sure, it didn't always work, and when it failed spectacularly (i.e. gay Rawhide Kid, Thunderbolts), but at least they were trying something different.

bgavino
08-15-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm in totally agreement with this. Jemas was all about taking chances. You're not seeing as much of this nowadays at Marvel. When Jemas was around, you never knew when Marvel might cancel a book and then bring it back with a bold new direction like they did with X-Force. Sure, it didn't always work, and when it failed spectacularly (i.e. gay Rawhide Kid, Thunderbolts), but at least they were trying something different.


Exactly. When Jemas left I was worried that the chance taking would stop and it did, now they just do big event books over and over again to jack up sales. It's a shame.

Bryan

horatio616
08-15-2008, 04:41 PM
Exactly. When Jemas left I was worried that the chance taking would stop and it did, now they just do big event books over and over again to jack up sales. It's a shame.

Bryan

It doesn't get a lot of mention but Milligan and Adlard's X-Force/X-Statix was a bold and terrific move. I wish we'd get more stuff like that. Marvel Knights was a big risk at the time too. Ultimate Spider-Man? Jemas's tenure.

bgavino
08-15-2008, 10:14 PM
It doesn't get a lot of mention but Milligan and Adlard's X-Force/X-Statix was a bold and terrific move. I wish we'd get more stuff like that. Marvel Knights was a big risk at the time too. Ultimate Spider-Man? Jemas's tenure.

X-Force by Milligan and Allred was awesome. They officially ditched the comic code with that book which was another huge risk at the time. Another thing they did at the time was they printed to order which was, depending on what you think, was a good or bad ting to do but it was a risk. The whole Ultimate Line was a risk. Man I miss that time in Marvel history.

Bryan