Daily Show Billboard

[secret-steve-crumbles]

I'm sure you guys have seen this by now, but the Daily Show put up a billboard welcoming the RNC people coming into town.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2784188452_203ee6ecfd.jpg?v=0

So.... I'm confused... Four out of the top Five richest senators are Democrats.

1) Herb Kohl (D-Wis) $234,549,004
2) John Kerry (D-Mass) $235,262,100
3) Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) $101,579,003
4) Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) $98,630,021
5) Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI) $64,096,019

So, what am I missing?

[quix]

That wealth isn't the sole determinant of whether or not someone is an oligarch.

[tokenuser]

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/byauthor/187543

[bigshotprof]

I'm sure you guys have seen this by now, but the Daily Show put up a billboard welcoming the RNC people coming into town.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2784188452_203ee6ecfd.jpg?v=0

So.... I'm confused... Four out of the top Five richest senators are Democrats.

1) Herb Kohl (D-Wis) $234,549,004
2) John Kerry (D-Mass) $235,262,100
3) Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) $101,579,003
4) Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) $98,630,021
5) Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI) $64,096,019

So, what am I missing?

You aren't missing anything. Advertising for the Yankees isn't only for people from New York, it is for Yankee fans all over the world. Welcoming the rich white oligarchs isn't just fo rich, white oligarchs. It is also for all of the poor and middle class suckers who belive that if they keep pumping the money upwards they too can someday be rich white oligarchs--the fine folk who can't tell the difference between trickle down and being trickled on.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

That wealth isn't the sole determinant of whether or not someone is an oligarch.You skipped right over the word rich, didn't ya?

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/byauthor/187543The billboard states that rich white republicans are running the government. I just showed how rich white democrats are in charge right now. How is your article relevant?

[kowgod]

Shouldn't there be a comma between "rich" and "white?"

[tokenuser]

The billboard states that rich white republicans are running the government. Where does it say "rich white republicans" are running the government? The billboard is a greeting for the rich white oligarchs - clearly a bipartisan message since (just like there are GOP people in Denver) there will be Dem people in St Paul.

And just because you are an oligarch doesn't mean you are of the house/senate majority oligarchs.

[ohhoe]

You skipped right over the word rich, didn't ya?

The billboard states that rich white republicans are running the government. I just showed how rich white democrats are in charge right now. How is your article relevant?

The Daily Show paid for the billboard to be put up at the RNC, not the people of the Rev3 boards.

Here you are arguing with the people on the forums about how the top 5 most wealthy senators are Democrats....


You just like to hear yourself bitch, don't you?

[ohhoe]

Where does it say "rich white republicans" are running the government? The billboard is a greeting for the rich white oligarchs - clearly a bipartisan message since (just like there are GOP people in Denver) there will be Dem people in St Paul.

And just because you are an oligarch doesn't mean you are of the house/senate majority oligarchs.

I'd like to think they meant rich in the flavorful sense. Mmmm white oligarchs.

[tokenuser]

Shouldn't there be a comma between "rich" and "white?"Jon wanted to put "creamy" in there as well, but they got charged by the letter.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

Where does it say "rich white republicans" are running the government? The billboard is a greeting for the rich white oligarchs - clearly a bipartisan message since (just like there are GOP people in Denver) there will be Dem people in St Paul.

And just because you are an oligarch doesn't mean you are of the house/senate majority oligarchs.OK, gotcha, I assumed it was due to the RNC. So it's a general message across the board. The article starts like this:

"With the Republican National Convention set to kick off Sept. 1 in Minneapolis-St. Paul, The Daily Show With Jon Stewart has already kicked off efforts to welcome GOP delegates to the Twin Cities."

Which clearly indicates it's for Republicans.

Here you are arguing with the people on the forums about how the top 5 most wealthy senators are Democrats....

You just like to hear yourself bitch, don't you?Where was the argument? It was posted as a question. Hence the "am I missing something?" part to which token just explained to me. You're the only one trying to start an argument.

[ohhoe]

Where was the argument? It was posted as a question. Hence the "am I missing something?" part to which token just explained to me. You're the only one trying to start an argument.

Because anything that someone replies to you with, you just disagree with them and disregard it.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

Because anything that someone replies to you with, you just disagree with them and disregard it.Um, are we reading the same thread? I asked a question, token explained it, and I said OK.

Good grief. For someone that has so much sex you sure are uptight. :D

[ohhoe]

Um, are we reading the same thread? I asked a question, token explained it, and I said OK.

Good grief. For someone that has so much sex you sure are uptight. :D

I'm hardly uptight, I just think you're a douchebag.

[quix]

You skipped right over the word rich, didn't ya?

Nope, but almost everyone in the Congress is rich. They're not all oligarchs. It's only mocking those who fit both categories, and those tend to be the Republicans.

[kahunablair]

So, what am I missing?

The fact that it's a joke?

[secret-steve-crumbles]

The fact that it's a joke?I wonder if it would still just be a joke if Neal Boortz posted that billboard.... hrm...

[quix]

If you mean an identical billboard other than the Daily Show branding, yes. If you mean an attempt to do an equivalent joke towards the Democrats, probably not as Conservatives aren't very good at comedy.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

If you mean an identical billboard other than the Daily Show branding, yes. If you mean an attempt to do an equivalent joke towards the Democrats, probably not as Conservatives aren't very good at comedy.Oh, my bad. I didn't realize only Democrats were funny.

[ryudo]

:) http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/cc_insider/2008/08/the-daily-show.html

[tokenuser]

Oh, my bad. I didn't realize only Democrats were funny.Democrats have a sense of humour. So do a lot of conservatives as well - Rush Limbaugh is hilarious, and that Alex Jones guy? Laugh? I almost crack a rib every time I hear him on the radio or read anything by him online.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

Democrats have a sense of humour. So do a lot of conservatives as well - Rush Limbaugh is hilarious, and that Alex Jones guy? Laugh? I almost crack a rib every time I hear him on the radio or read anything by him online.I hear ya. You should see me when I hear the Democrat's tax plan. I need oxygen!

[tokenuser]

I hear ya. You should see me when I hear the Democrat's tax plan. I need oxygen!You're in Denver this week? That high altitude will do it to you. Nice town to visit though. Wife had a conference there a year or so back. Stayed in a great B&B.

Oh - the tax plan. McCain thinks he can balance the budget, and cut taxes ... those wacky Republicans.

BTW - did you hear the one about opening up ANWR and the coastal shelf for drilling? Fucking hilarious. I heard there was enough oil out there to supply America INDEPENDENT of OPEC for 3 whole years. That might almost make it through to a second term (curtain call?).

[secret-steve-crumbles]

Oh - the tax plan. McCain thinks he can balance the budget, and cut taxes ... those wacky Republicans.I was part of a meeting with my company today to discuss a "possible increase in cost" for next year. They didn't come out and say it, but it was obvious it was about Obama's massive tax raises.

Each department head was discussing possible cuts. Luckily I only have one guy under me, so I think he's safe.

Cutting jobs to make up for the tax increases. Now that's change you can believe in.

[tokenuser]

I was part of a meeting with my company today to discuss a "possible increase in cost" for next year. They didn't come out and say it, but it was obvious it was about Obama's massive tax raises.

Each department head was discussing possible cuts. Luckily I only have one guy under me, so I think he's safe.

Cutting jobs to make up for the tax increases. Now that's change you can believe in.Tax increase? How about cost of materials. Increased cost of wholesale goods (up 15-20%), while consumer goods have only increased 5-7%? That's a significant gap that is being absorbed by industry just so that prices remain competitve with imported goods. If people stop buying your good or services because you needed to increase your prices (inflation), then there are a lot more jobs that would be lost.

Just ask Airborne Express how the DHL takeover brokered by John McCain went.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

Just ask Airborne Express how the DHL takeover brokered by John McCain went.I guess we could ask AAA how the high ass taxes in California went (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121647516449767887.html).

But don't take my word for it, let's see where people are moving to. Hrm... high tax states, to low or no tax states. I guess that's change to believe in too...

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff99/Bojangles888/tax.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff99/Bojangles888/07302008129.jpg

[quix]

Oh, my bad. I didn't realize only Democrats were funny.

It's an easy mistake. Conservative policies are so ludicrous that one could easily think they were joking. The way to tell is that when they're joking they typically make an offesive remark like Limbaugh's statement that the NAACP should "get a liquor store and practice robberies."

I was part of a meeting with my company today to discuss a "possible increase in cost" for next year. They didn't come out and say it, but it was obvious it was about Obama's massive tax raises.

Each department head was discussing possible cuts. Luckily I only have one guy under me, so I think he's safe.

Cutting jobs to make up for the tax increases. Now that's change you can believe in.


Or it could be the fact that the Bush-McCain policies will simply plunge us into an even deeper recession and cause inflation to go even higher.

[tokenuser]

You got me. Conclusive proof high taxes are bad, and only Democrats have high taxes.

7/10 of the "highest taxed" states (and this is state taxes, not federal) are Democrat held states. Strange that draw that conclusion.

Whooooo ... wait a minute.

7/10 of the "lowest taxed" states are Democrat held states.

What happens if you dont have money to pay for things? You either go without or buy on credit. Without an income, its pretty hard to balance the books because costs are increasing. The Dems foolishly are telling their bosses (their constiuents) that need need a pay rise so they can do their job.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

You got me. Conclusive proof high taxes are bad, and only Democrats have high taxes.lol, I'm glad you're finally responding to my posts again.

Although I can't do this all night (I have to be up by 5am tomorrow) I'll end it with this and leave it for you to have the last word.

Your state comparison isn't really relevant to what I'm talking about. There are some conservative Democrats out there. Some that I could even stand being president.

However, the issue isn't which states currently hold conservative Democrats. The issue is Obama raising every single tax when he gets elected. That has nothing to do with your argument. Although Democrats do usually favor high taxes, my argument was what Obama is about to do, not what Democrats do in general.

[quix]

You're wrong about Obama's tax policy. He's going to give a tax credit of up to $500 per single working person and up $1000 per family which will in effect eliminate 10 million Americans income tax. Your taxes will only go up if you're part of the top 1%, which they should. Of whom much is given, much is expected.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

You're wrong about Obama's tax policy. He's going to give a tax credit of up to $500 per single working person and up $1000 per family which will in effect eliminate 10 million Americans income tax. Your taxes will only go up if you're part of the top 1%, which they should. Of whom much is given, much is expected.Wow, you didn't read a darn thing that was said in here, did ya?

First off, you're wrong. There are several taxes he is increasing that will effect everyone. There isn't just "one" tax out there. But I won't even get into that because that wasn't what we were talking about.

Democrats are about to vote to raise the taxes for the companies they work for. Where do you think they are going to go when they want to cut their expenses. Salaries.

You are effectively voting to remove jobs in America. Change you can believe in.

[tokenuser]

However, the issue isn't which states currently hold conservative Democrats. The issue is Obama raising every single tax when he gets elected. That has nothing to do with your argument. Although Democrats do usually favor high taxes, my argument was what Obama is about to do, not what Democrats do in general.What Quix said.

But I'll add ...

Obama's tax plan is aimed at higher level income earners, and gives a level of relief to middle class America. Thats you and me buddy. McCain's tax plan will only benefit the people smoking cigars at clubs we will never get in to.

Its a beautiful thing - lower taxes for middle America, and people will either save it (increasing their retirement options), spend it (boosting the economy), or invest it (also a boost to the economy). The taxes will then pay for medical - which means a healthier population and a boost in productivity, and education - a smarter workforce and a boost in productivity. Those boosts in the economy will improve the bottom line of those that funded the tax cuts by getting a tax rise ... sure, they are taxed higher, but they should also be earning more because of productivity gains.

[popltree2]

McCain supports an increase of troops in Iraq. This, from what I understand, is the general stance of the Republican party. The Democratic party, in general, seems to be in favor of ending the war. I am in favor of ending the war.

Sorry to veer this topic in the "war" direction, but I thought it was pertinent in the discussion of the two major political parties.

But now...

http://www.retroviewed.com/content/images/cuteness.jpg

[esophagus]

As far as I can tell Obama and McCain both have plans for tax reduction. Where are these tax hikes we are talking about, because I have heard nothing about them?

Serious question. I'm Canadian, which (you guessed it) means I follow the candidates a lot less than any of you will. If these tax hikes exist, I'd love to see some articles and links that say as much. As it stands I'm going primarily off Wikipedia.

[tokenuser]

As far as I can tell Obama and McCain both have plans for tax reduction. Where are these tax hikes we are talking about, because I have heard nothing about them?From Obama's perspective, the tax increase isn't really his doing ... what he will be doing is letting the TEMPORARY tax cuts implemented by Bush (that benefit a very small percentage of the population) EXPIRE.

With such an abysmal national budget situation, there might need to be other tax increases as well.

Or you can take McCains approach and ask his wife for an increase in his allowance. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for the rest of America.

[bigshotprof]

What do these three people have in common?
James Garner
Mel Gibson
John McCain

No! Not girdles (well, okay . . . girdles) but . . .

They all pretended to be Mavericks on camera!

[masherscf]

Rich, White Oligarchs. I guess one out of three is a fail...

I'd love to be rich too. I'll pass on the oligarchy though.

Although, the "Rich, White oligarch" label is probably a mischaracterization as red states tend to be less affluent and no less diverse than blue states.
I don't see how the label is unflattering. Would you rather the sign read "ignorant rednecks." That's just as brash a mischaracterization and a much more common liberal slander.

[quix]

Wow, you didn't read a darn thing that was said in here, did ya?

First off, you're wrong. There are several taxes he is increasing that will effect everyone. There isn't just "one" tax out there. But I won't even get into that because that wasn't what we were talking about.

Democrats are about to vote to raise the taxes for the companies they work for. Where do you think they are going to go when they want to cut their expenses. Salaries.

You are effectively voting to remove jobs in America. Change you can believe in.


Your point was that Obama will raise:
every single tax when he gets elected.

the fact that 10 mil. Americans won't have to pay income tax under the Obama plan, disproves your assertion. There's also the point tokenuser made.

What do these three people have in common?
James Garner
Mel Gibson
John McCain

No! Not girdles (well, okay . . . girdles) but . . .

They all pretended to be Mavericks on camera!

:D

[kowgod]

I support higher taxes.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

I support higher taxes.Damn. My signature is starting to get a little long.

[rabidbadger]

Damn. My signature is starting to get a little long.

Oh, just you wait til I start replying! :D

[sir_scutter]

I support higher taxes.

For everyone?

[sk-one]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EGiqfkO8ss&feature=related

Biden ROCKS

[tokenuser]

For everyone?I think he means just for you ...

[speed]

The billboard states that rich white republicans are running the government. I just showed how rich white democrats are in charge right now. How is your article relevant?

No, you showed that the 4/5 of the richest senators are democrats. Nowhere did you mention power, or combined wealth or number of democrats with over $1 million vs. number of republicans with over $1 million or even average democrat wealth vs. average republican wealth.

[yssman]

Wow... We went from a tongue-in-cheek billboard to a discussion of tax plans in which facts were used, and yet there was no movement on the issue.

I'm not sure what there is to take offense to with the "Rich White Oligarchs" slogan... Its mostly true, and it applies evenly to both parties.

Lets face facts for a moment: The GOP, who once catered to the middle class by protecting their rights, keeping taxes low, and curbing obscene government spending is dead. Its gone. McCain and Palin seem to think that they've created a new GOP, but when in fact their policies match nearly line-for-line with that of George W. Bush... Whats new?

Right, they're "Mavericks." You know what, I must be too... I root for the Red Sox and I live in Michigan.

[bigshotprof]

The GOP, who once catered to the middle class by protecting their rights, keeping taxes low, and curbing obscene government spending is dead.

When is this once to which you refer. Middle class taxes went up dramatically during the Reagan years (despite vapor to the contrary). Reagan's tax cuts were for corps and the top 20%. If you count all taxes--fed, state and local--middle class taxes have gone up sharply under Bush to (it is fair to count them, because the GOP didn't "cut" taxes, they just moved them down a notch or two by mandate).

Most explosive growth in the size of government? again, Reagan followed closely by Bush. For that matter, after FDR (during that nasty depression) the next two are also reps--Nixon and Ike. Even the supposed"Welfare state" of the great society cost less than the Reagan years for the middle class.



Right, they're "Mavericks." You know what, I must be too... I root for the Red Sox and I live in Michigan.

This is strictly "old guy" trivia--Maverick (as played by Garner and Gibson) was a cowboy gambler on TV in the 1950s an 60s and in the movies in the 90s.

[tokenuser]

This is strictly "old guy" trivia--Maverick (as played by Garner and Gibson) was a cowboy gambler on TV in the 1950s an 60s and in the movies in the 90s.I am really glad you cleared that up ... I was starting to refer to Palin as "Goose" :)

[1. Yeah, another stupid Maverick reference ... Top Gun this time. I wonder what McCains call sign was in Vietnam?]
[2. Quick google ... apparently it was "Playboy" ... but here is the kicker the Secret Service callsign for Obama is "Renegade". No idea what McCains SS callsign is.]
[3. Deeper googling ... his SS moniker is Phoenix.]

[yssman]

When is this once to which you refer.

I was generally thinking of any GOP candidate before the Nixon/Ford years, you know, that whole "silent majority" thing. Or what I'd consider to be "modern classic Republicanism," that of which was the Eisenhower administration. I'm one of the only Republicans I know who absolutely detests Reagan and his ass-backwards policies, so I tend to get isolated often. To be honest, I'm not even much of a Lincoln fan.

Eisenhower and (Teddy) Roosevelt are the guys I tend to think of when it comes to "true" Republicanism. Well, Nixon too, minus that whole great aggrandizement of Presidential power...