Daily Show / Colbert Report

[tokenuser]

Are these two shows - because they appear on a comdey network, the only ones that are seeing through the hypocrisy of the tallking heads being rolled out by conservative media?

With respect to the Daily Show ... I don't know where or how they access their clip library, but the picture of the Republicans being painted is not pretty. Showing media clips from within the last 12 months of speeches given by Republicans, then showing a complete 180 at the RNC is pretty amazing.

Last week they did a similar thing with the Democrats, but to a much lesser extent. I am not sure if that is characterising liberal media bias, or if it is just that the Republicans leave themselves open to this level of criticism so much easier.

The Colbert Report is styled after the neocon right wing media, but has also had brilliant coverage during the DNC and RNC - and has been highlighting just how ridiculous right wing media can be.

Its just a little sad that a comedy network is providing the best analysis of the election. It leans a little left, but its far more balanced than the big media outlets are doing.

[bigshotprof]

The Daily Show runs ten TiVos everyday to collect clips. I don't know where they store them, but I am sure they can pull from the entire corporate vault (Viacom?). Stephen Cobert is just a brilliant improvisationalist. That's the perfect guy for the perfect job. And speaking of tweaking the right, TDS campaign movie for Obama was one of the funniest things I've seen on TV since Latka Gravis.

[njshadow]

As it usually appears, The Daily Show tends to be pro-Democrat whereas The Colbert Report tends to be pro-Republican.

[masherscf]

As it usually appears, The Daily Show tends to be pro-Democrat whereas The Colbert Report tends to be pro-Republican.

What are you talking about? Colbert is a ruthless lampoon of the conservative media. He's not laughing with you, he's laughing at you.

[xibalba]

As it usually appears, The Daily Show tends to be pro-Democrat whereas The Colbert Report tends to be pro-Republican.

Have you ever watched the Colbert Report? he makes republicans look like complete jokes.

[tokenuser]

Yeah ... Colbert is liberal ... he just plays a neocon on TV.

Don't be too hard on NJS ... he needs to be in bed by 10:00pm on a school night :p

[njshadow]

Yeah ... Colbert is liberal ... he just plays a neocon on TV.

Don't be too hard on NJS ... he needs to be in bed by 10:00pm on a school night :p

I've come to expect immature comments from you Token.

[njshadow]

What are you talking about? Colbert is a ruthless lampoon of the conservative media. He's not laughing with you, he's laughing at you.

He makes fun of both parties. Yes he greatly exaggerates when he plays his "conservative role" but I do believe he is, in fact, a conservative.

[njshadow]

Anywho, back on topic. Yeah, it is rather funny how the comedy news shows tend to report the news more accurately. Perhaps it's because they're not burdened with the need to be formal or polite. They will startight up let you know if something is screwed up or not. Man, I can't stop thinking about that episode of The Daily Show where they covered the Democratic National Convention and made it seem like a beer commercial because they were in Colorado. THAT WAS 100% PURE HILARITY. xD "Hey Assif, what are you doing there?" "Oh, nothing John, just tappin' the Rockies!". xD

[xibalba]

He makes fun of both parties. Yes he greatly exaggerates when he plays his "conservative role" but I do believe he is, in fact, a conservative.

He is a democrat.

[tokenuser]

He makes fun of both parties. Yes he greatly exaggerates when he plays his "conservative role" but I do believe he is, in fact, a conservative.

Stephen Colbert (the character) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert_(character))

Dr. Stephen T. Colbert, D.F.A. (pronounced /koʊɫˈbεɹ/) is the fictional persona of political satirist Stephen Colbert, portrayed most notably on The Colbert Report. Described as a "well-intentioned, poorly informed high-status idiot," the character is a blustery, self-obsessed right-wing commentator with a strong distaste for facts. He incorporates aspects of the real Colbert's life and interests, but is modelled primarily as a parody of cable news pundits, particularly Bill O'Reilly.

Stephen Colbert (the actor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert)

Although by his own account he was not particularly political before joining the cast of The Daily Show, Colbert is a self-described Democrat. In an interview at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard Institute of Politics, he stated that he has "no problems with Republicans, just Republican policies." He is also a practicing Roman Catholic, as well as a Sunday school teacher.

You bought into the act. Colbert has done his job.

[njshadow]

Stephen Colbert (the character) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert_(character))



Stephen Colbert (the actor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert)

I can believe that he's a Democrat. It seems though that he's more of a conservative Democrat.

[bigshotprof]

I can believe that he's a Democrat. It seems though that he's more of a conservative Democrat.

Not yet, but maybe of we have another attack, he will wet his pants and become one like Dennis Miller.

[esophagus]

Colbert is good at making fun of Democrat media coverage. Silly things that they say or do in the public eye. With the Republicans he tends to make fun of their policy more. I think he's quite liberal, if his comedy is anything to go off.

Also, I said it in another thread, last nights episodes of both shows were my favorite so far. I look forward to tonights.

[masherscf]

I've come to expect immature comments from you Token.


Score Token! You get the "I" word. Accusations of immaturity lose their sting when delivered by a person less than half your age. Of course, I revel in immaturity. Maturity of for the over-60 set.

Of course, I'm in bed by 10pm. I have to get up at 4:15am to go to work.

[esophagus]

As a relatively young person I like to think that age isn't really the best way to determine maturity is. Attitude is. It just so happens that in some cases the two things go hand in hand.

[masherscf]

As a relatively young person I like to think that age isn't really the best way to determine maturity is. Attitude is. It just so happens that in some cases the two things go hand in hand.

You're spot on. I would also submit that maturity is a concept invented by young people to excuse bad behavior. That is, young people and old are expected to maintain different standards because of age. Of course, there is evidence to suggests that young people actually think differentially than adults. But, that doesn't keep adults from acting like real shit-heads sometimes.

[straylightrise]

@phatlip i agree

@token Yes that old CONSERVATIVE media - because NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC,MSNBC,PBS,NPR are all well known conservative outlets.

Listen the only conservative media outlet is Fox and as a political scientist and a person who works with TV I can say this: anyone who watches Fox already has a predisposed opinion on their poliitcs. Also their production and talent is honestly really NOT that good. Only Chris Wallace saves that place. BARELY

Now.

The Daily Show is a show that pokes fun at BOTH parties quite well. They lean left.

The Colbert Report is a show that pokes fun at both parties. It is set up as a flip of Colbert. He portrays himself as a conservative or a Republican while in reality he's on the left. Simple as that. He is a GREAT ACTOR. THEY HAVE GREAT WRITERS. If you can't catch the sarcasm and the irony then you have only peeled one layer of the onion.

I prefer the Daily Show because they don't HIDE their views they are a prodominetly left show and thus their views will reflect it. Jon Stewart has never denied it. However he will mock the left and the right because both sides have points that should be mocked.

If you think Colbert is a conservative Democrat or a Republican then you my friend are quite mistaken.

[masherscf]

Actually, I'd argue that makes it sting even more.

Argue with me about an old man's perspective when you're forty. Meanwhile, I'll channel my inner fourteen year old.

[njshadow]

@phatlip i agree

@token Yes that old CONSERVATIVE media - because NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC,MSNBC,PBS,NPR are all well known conservative outlets.

Listen the only conservative media outlet is Fox and as a political scientist and a person who works with TV I can say this: anyone who watches Fox already has a predisposed opinion on their poliitcs. Also their production and talent is honestly really NOT that good. Only Chris Wallace saves that place. BARELY

Now.

The Daily Show is a show that pokes fun at BOTH parties quite well. They lean left.

The Colbert Report is a show that pokes fun at both parties. It is set up as a flip of Colbert. He portrays himself as a conservative or a Republican while in reality he's on the left. Simple as that. He is a GREAT ACTOR. THEY HAVE GREAT WRITERS. If you can't catch the sarcasm and the irony then you have only peeled one layer of the onion.

I prefer the Daily Show because they don't HIDE their views they are a prodominetly left show and thus their views will reflect it. Jon Stewart has never denied it. However he will mock the left and the right because both sides have points that should be mocked.

If you think Colbert is a conservative Democrat or a Republican then you my friend are quite mistaken.

Oh, I always knew he was greatly exaggerating about being (or rather pretending) a Republican but that's what I love about the show. Even though he goes full-on, no holds barred, when it comes to pushing the boundaries of conservative ideals, absolutely love it. And even though is he joking about it all I can't help but think he actually agrees with some of it. I mean c'mon, he's a Sunday School teacher! You should have seen the interview he had with one of the leaders for Atheistic beliefs, I COULDN'T STOP LAUGHING but I agreed with everything he was saying! LOL. If you get the chance, WATCH THAT INTERVIEW! :D:D I think that's why the show can draw conservatives even though he's kinda making fun of them as they probably agree with what he's saying! :D

[darknessgp]

I wish more political shows would go in with the basis of Colbert or the Daily Show, i.e. comedy. Seriously, watch O'Reilly, Foxnews, etc. with the idea in mind that it's going to be satirical, and suddenly those shows are 10x funnier and 100x more enjoyable.

[esophagus]

Oh, I always knew he was greatly exaggerating about being (or rather pretending) a Republican but that's what I love about the show. Even though he goes full-on, no holds barred, when it comes to pushing the boundaries of conservative ideals, absolutely love it. And even though is he joking about it all I can't help but think he actually agrees with some of it. I mean c'mon, he's a Sunday School teacher! You should have seen the interview he had with one of the leaders for Atheistic beliefs, I COULDN'T STOP LAUGHING but I agreed with everything he was saying! LOL. If you get the chance, WATCH THAT INTERVIEW! :D:D I think that's why the show can draw conservatives even though he's kinda making fun of them as they probably agree with what he's saying! :DI wish I had Colbert's personal email, so he could read this thread and give himself a pat on the back.

HE'S MAKING FUN OF YOUR BELIEFS!

[ryudo]

At least these shows are supposed to be comedy unlike Fox news channel.

[Music]

I wish more political shows would go in with the basis of Colbert or the Daily Show, i.e. comedy. Seriously, watch O'Reilly, Foxnews, etc. with the idea in mind that it's going to be satirical, and suddenly those shows are 10x funnier and 100x more enjoyable.

Whenever I do happen upon Fox (god forbid) I look at it with that exact attitude and it proves to be quite funny, sad, but funny nonetheless.

[straylightrise]

Seriously Fox is horrid. The other news networks have more responsibility than Fox but are biased as well just not so blatant about it.

Also - Alan Colmes is the worst liberal they could have on FNC. Ugh

[frankiethewaffle]

Ok, this is where I may be able to give a straight line.

Both shows have hosts and most likely writers that are Democrat. If you ever have questions about the truth, look up the Bios of these guys.

Stewart, regardless of his stance seems to be the most fair. His show demands it. He lampoons everyone equally. "Cluster F&^K to the White house"? Everthing is F'd up. I will make fun of them all.

Colbert on the other hand. I am more conservative/republican, than liberal/democrat. However, I am a wanna be comedian. Although I love Colberts' back round in Improv, it scares the hell outta me. But I still study it.

Colbert is a registered Democrat. He takes a Dems. stand on something and reverse/lampoons it, on the spot sometimes, "super supports Republicans", and kills me. He hits it every time.

Colbert is a great example that a real comic has to be smart. Even freakishly brilliant. I have a long way to go. Colbert is there. You have to read between the lines with comedy. Never before like The Daily Show and The Colbert Report.

[masherscf]

Seriously Fox is horrid. The other news networks have more responsibility than Fox but are biased as well just not so blatant about it.

Also - Alan Colmes is the worst liberal they could have on FNC. Ugh

There's nothing wrong with Fox that isn't wrong with almost every other Television News entity. They're in to entertain and not inform. "Fair and Balanced" is a marketing term. Like most marketing, it tries to reinforce where a product is weakest. However, listen to the tag lines for MSNBC and CNN, their equally as empty. Even the once great network news teams have caught the bug. Once TV news was thought to be a public service that would lose money. Then 60-minutes turned a profit and network executives seized on the notion that TV news didn't have to lose money.

There's nothing wrong with making Money. Everyone does it. But, nobody ever garnered ratings by telling their target audience that their wrong. So, we can look forward to TV-news always reinforcing their audience's beliefs and never challenging them.

[frankiethewaffle]

OK, for anything that is wrong with Fox, or CNN, or MSNBC, or whatever.

If you want to have an opinion, watch them all, pick apart the facts and form your own opinion. Otherwise, you have no opinion. If you don;t, at least, make that effort, you just parrot what others say. Anyone that chooses one channel is too close minded to have their opinion matter.

[speed]

He makes fun of both parties. Yes he greatly exaggerates when he plays his "conservative role" but I do believe he is, in fact, a conservative.

Except, you know, he said once in an out of character interview that he was a registered democrat.

[diane]

Except, you know, he said once in an out of character interview that he was a registered democrat.

So? He is also Jewish and have you seen his jokes on the Jews? Harsh is an understatement.

I think the thing he does best is make fun of the media regardless of their party. I think that needs to happen more often. All the talking heads have personal opinions but have an arrogance that they are not biased. I love when he calls them out on it. And he certainly doesn't hold back regardless of channel. Those are my favorites.

[frankiethewaffle]

Good point Diane.

These guys aren't even there to make fun of politicians, but spoof the media that reports on them.

Take that into account. You can't help but get their humor. Even layers deep.

[tokenuser]

So? He is also Jewish and have you seen his jokes on the Jews? Harsh is an understatement. If we are still talking about Colbert - he is Roman Catholic, and teaches Sunday School.