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secret-steve-crumbles
09-08-2008, 11:18 PM
I was actually considering "losing" my firearms in lieu of his Presidency. After reading this, maybe I will.

Gun sales are going boom around the country as gun owners and gun advocates brace for a potential Democrat in the White House for the first time in almost 10 years.

Democrats, meanwhile, say there's no reason to worry that presidential hopeful Barack Obama would attempt to curtail access to most guns, though that hasn't stopped the buying spree.

"You'd be surprised," said Jeff Mercer, manager of George's Pawn and Gun Shop on High Street. "It's people of all races, too. People are scared."

Across town at The Gun Doctor and More on Glencrest Lane, owner Bob Godell said he has also noticed a similar trend.

"We call it the Obama factor. People are very concerned that if a Democrat is elected they will see more restrictions on handguns and assault rifles." Godell said. "I think as a result of that we have seen steady handgun sales, and there's been an increase in the sale of assault rifles like AK-47s, as well."

Gregg County Republican Party Chairman Keith Rothra said Obama's support for gun control has made some Republicans leery.

"Barack Obama seems to think that we'd be safer if people didn't have handguns, and that's false," Rothra said. "I have heard several people say they are going to buy handguns as a just-in-case thing because they don't know what's going to happen."

Full Article (http://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/08/090608_web_guns.html).

xibalba
09-08-2008, 11:30 PM
I'd buy me a gun if I had the money to.

esophagus
09-08-2008, 11:33 PM
What does the average person really need an AK-47 for?

xibalba
09-08-2008, 11:37 PM
For taking out those dangerous, deadly, and cute rabbits, squirrels, and deer.

mier
09-08-2008, 11:41 PM
I have an Ak and an AR-15. I like to make holes in targets at over 100m.

esophagus
09-08-2008, 11:44 PM
So basically there is no reason you need them.

phatlip12
09-08-2008, 11:48 PM
I know someone that's planning on buying a gun for protection because they think he'll be assassinated and a race war will follow. Unfortunately Im not kidding.

masherscf
09-08-2008, 11:55 PM
People need excuses to buy guns like they need excuses to party on Friday night.

But, I remember they did the same thing for Y2K.

secret-steve-crumbles
09-08-2008, 11:55 PM
I know someone that's planning on buying a gun for protection because they think he'll be assassinated and a race war will follow. Unfortunately Im not kidding.Sounds like the plot from The Warriors.

mikec
09-09-2008, 12:25 AM
What does the average person really need an AK-47 for?


I don't need one but I still am looking at buying one. I use the same logic as when I buy a new bottle of Scotch. I don't NEED it but I still would like it.


BTW, the AK clones for sale are NOT full automatic. A Federal law passed in '86 made the manufacture of new full auto weapons for civilians illegal. Those registered at that time are still legal to own and sell PROVIDED that your state allows that. 35 or so states allow citizens to own full auto firearms with proper transfer and paperwork. $200 Federal tax involved.

masherscf
09-09-2008, 12:51 AM
What does the average person really need an AK-47 for?

Why do I need an excuse the buy something? What does the average person need a F150 pickup for...or an iPhone? Don't you pay attention! But stuff! It's the American way!

tokenuser
09-09-2008, 12:52 AM
I wonder if - as a foreign national - I could buy a gun anywhere in the US?

masherscf
09-09-2008, 12:59 AM
I wonder if - as a foreign national - I could buy a gun anywhere in the US?


I'll sell you a gun.


ATTENTION FBI: I'm joking!

secret-steve-crumbles
09-09-2008, 01:02 AM
ATTENTION FBI: I'm joking!LOL

bomb, president, masherscf, flag

tokenuser
09-09-2008, 01:03 AM
I'll sell you a gun.


ATTENTION FBI: I'm joking!Hmmmm .... good point.

ATTENTION DHS: I'm joking too. If the FBI turns up anything about guns in my background check ... it was the other guy with my name.

ryudo
09-09-2008, 01:10 AM
Whether you're for or against guns.

The comic is dead on.
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1383/gamespy069mn9.jpg

bigshotprof
09-09-2008, 01:14 AM
Gun, Shmun! Sarah can bring down a Bull Moose with her tiara!

tokenuser
09-09-2008, 01:21 AM
Gun, Shmun! Sarah can bring down a Bull Moose with her tiara!So its back to the photo of her in the swimsuit standing in front of her invisible jet.

mikec
09-09-2008, 01:35 AM
I wonder if - as a foreign national - I could buy a gun anywhere in the US?

It depends on your status and what type of firearm. For this Federal law trumps any state law since you aren't a citizen. I think after Sept 11 the law changed and you can't own an evil assault weapon (whatever that might be) but I think you can buy/own/possess a traditional long arm. Not sure about handguns. On several of the firearm boards out there, there are a few Aussies living here now who are involved with firearms. ATF would be the first place to start.

tokenuser
09-09-2008, 01:48 AM
It depends on your status and what type of firearm. For this Federal law trumps any state law since you aren't a citizen. I think after Sept 11 the law changed and you can't own an evil assault weapon (whatever that might be) but I think you can buy/own/possess a traditional long arm. Not sure about handguns. On several of the firearm boards out there, there are a few Aussies living here now who are involved with firearms. ATF would be the first place to start.For the record - I wont be buying a firearm. I'll be laying low when the end of the world comes while people use up all their ammunition ... then I will rule with my compound crossbow. Robbing from the rich ... and keeping for myself.

Guess I need to get a crossbow :)

esophagus
09-09-2008, 03:43 AM
I don't need one but I still am looking at buying one. I use the same logic as when I buy a new bottle of Scotch. I don't NEED it but I still would like it.Your right. Because keeping an AK-47 on your person is as dangerous as a bottle of scotch.

I can understand the "personal security" of a handgun, whether or not I want one myself. Not things like AK-47.

When you think you are being robbed and you come back with this...

http://www.enemyforces.com/firearms/ak47.jpg

... You're being an extremist idiot.

masherscf
09-09-2008, 03:46 AM
I have no plans to shoot anyone or defend myself against robbers or whoever... But I would *love* to own an AK-47. It just looks like it would be fun to shoot. I don't need it for hunting or home defense. Why do you need a reason for things?

tokenuser
09-09-2008, 03:49 AM
When you think you are being robbed and you come back with this...
... You're being an extremist idiot.Especially if you are shooting it "gangsta" style.

http://www.fmft.net/archives/gangsta%2013/gangsta%2010.JPG

esophagus
09-09-2008, 03:50 AM
Its mostly just things that are really good at killing innocent people.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2610636728_1ecae4ea43.jpg?v=0

I don't, however, need a reason to buy large TVs, and iPods, and eat expensive food.

esophagus
09-09-2008, 03:51 AM
Especially if you are shooting it "gangsta" style.

http://www.fmft.net/archives/gangsta%2013/gangsta%2010.JPG

If you have to do it, do it right.

phatlip12
09-09-2008, 03:58 AM
Its mostly just things that are really good at killing innocent people.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2610636728_1ecae4ea43.jpg?v=0



I understand there have been many innocent civilians killed during the war in Iraq. I'm not denying that. But are you suggesting our soldiers don't need guns? The guys shooting at them are innocent and they shouldn't shoot back?

straylightrise
09-09-2008, 03:59 AM
http://bp3.blogger.com/_M3KcDDpUUfo/Rzm7Mu6Wo0I/AAAAAAAAAC4/EcP_XoCzyWM/s400/pass_the_ammo.jpg

esophagus
09-09-2008, 04:00 AM
I understand there have been many innocent civilians killed during the war in Iraq. I'm not denying that. But are you suggesting our soldiers don't need guns? The guys shooting at them are innocent and they shouldn't shoot back?Thats just the first picture I found of soldiers with AK-47s. Didn't even realize it was from Iraq. That was not my intent at all.

Soldiers do need guns. My point was that I don't see why civilians need to own the same ones.

phatlip12
09-09-2008, 04:02 AM
Thats just the first picture I found of soldiers with AK-47s. Didn't even realize it was from Iraq. That was not my intent at all.

Soldiers do need guns. My point was that I don't see why civilians need to own the same ones.

Ah okay. I associated the words "innocent civilians" and the picture of the soliders together and thought you were trying to say something else. My apologies.

mikec
09-09-2008, 04:59 AM
Thats just the first picture I found of soldiers with AK-47s. Didn't even realize it was from Iraq. That was not my intent at all.

Soldiers do need guns. My point was that I don't see why civilians need to own the same ones.

Well, the 2nd Amendment says I can IF I want to and IF I follow the rules set down by the government. Back in the mid 80's the West German firearms maker Heckler & Koch took the basic action of their very successful G3 military rifle and put a wood stock on it and gave the rifle a three round magazine and sold it to hunters. People who would never buy an EVIL military looking rifle thought it was a nice hunting rifle. It was but it also was meant to show how appearances are deceiving.


In 1903 the US government created the Office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship, to train American citizens in the use of military firearms. That has morphed, thanks to Clinton :(, into the Civilian Marksmanship Program. The government thinks it is a good idea for us to learn to shoot, who am I to argue.

mikec
09-09-2008, 05:10 AM
Your right. Because keeping an AK-47 on your person is as dangerous as a bottle of scotch.

I can understand the "personal security" of a handgun, whether or not I want one myself. Not things like AK-47.

When you think you are being robbed and you come back with this...

http://www.enemyforces.com/firearms/ak47.jpg

... You're being an extremist idiot.


Actually, if I was working in a store and some thugs tried to rob the store, a semi auto AK clone would be a great choice. Why? Because anyone with basic firearms knowledge knows that a handgun is a last ditch device and that a rifle is far better. Better ballistics, greater range and usually more ammo. Exact same reason most police departments issue the officers a rifle or shotgun.

esophagus
09-09-2008, 05:15 AM
Heh. Okay.

This isn't really a debate, its just both of us reiterating our viewpoints. I don't like guns. You do. There's not much either of us is going to say to do anything about that.

dash2
09-09-2008, 11:35 AM
What does the average person really need an AK-47 for?

Just like what Kevin and Alex said about the Shotgun.

You hear an AK-47 cock, and you're getting the hell out of there.

bigshotprof
09-09-2008, 04:49 PM
You hear an AK-47 cock,
Wow! I've heard them compared to a lot of things. . .