Biden: 'Hillary Might Have Been Better Pick Than Me'

[secret-steve-crumbles]

Barack Obama's vice-presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., Wednesday said that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, might have been a better pick for the position than him.

Full Article (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/biden-hillary-a.html).

[bigshotprof]

That's refreshingly honest. If Palin said that she would bleed from the ears.

[tokenuser]

Goose: "Romney might have been a better pick than me, but he declined the nomination after I demonstrated how to field dress ... his dog."

[phatlip12]

That's refreshingly honest. If Palin said that she would bleed from the ears.

More like stupid on his part. Let me ask you something. If Palin said the same thing would you have a different response? Be honest.

Why is it politicians don't think before they spek?

[esophagus]

I think he was trying to be refreshing and pay a compliment to Clinton, and ended up saying something incredibly stupid.

[rabidbadger]

Sucks. I respect Biden, always have. Smart, experienced, all that.... but I KNEW his oral disentary would cause trouble. Obama and Co needs to sit him down and drill into him that he MUST stick to script.

Did I say "Drill" ? Bad Badger!

[diane]

I love Biden. I can always count on him for entertainment. He's like McCain, says what he thinks and feels without thinking about soundbites.

He is the better choice though. Granted, I really wanted Richardson.

I thought Biden would have been a great Joker. That man's smile is wicked.

[xibalba]

I love Biden. I can always count on him for entertainment. He's like McCain, says what he thinks and feels without thinking about soundbites.

He is the better choice though. Granted, I really wanted Richardson.

I thought Biden would have been a great Joker. That man's smile is wicked.

Nah looks like the Joker supports Mccain :D
http://bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/revision3/images/shows/ifanboy/0087/ifanboy--0087--comicbookvillains--small.thumb.jpg

[diane]

Nah looks like the Joker supports Mccain :D
http://bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/revision3/images/shows/ifanboy/0087/ifanboy--0087--comicbookvillains--small.thumb.jpg

I miss that cartoon. I wonder if it is out on DVD yet.

[frankiethewaffle]

Diane I respect that opinion. But the most honest presidential candidate to express his opinions without thinking of the result? That has to be Bush himself.

"Most of our imports, come from other Countries."

(Look it up, it is on tape.)

This post against Diane was all in humor.

But let's face it, Biden saying that was an example of the "F" up that this current age of Politics represents. You wanna vote for them?

ie. You like two guys in a bar. By the end of the night, one is puking in the corner. The other is kissing his Frat Brothers for a free beer. Which one do you kiss first?

[yssman]

He is the better choice though. Granted, I really wanted Richardson.

Same here. I was counting on that for some outstanding foreign-policy experience, balance it out for a governor role, and bring in the Latino vote. But, as they say, I don't know if it would have played well in Wichita, which is why I assume Obama went elsewhere. Perhaps we'll have Richardson as Secretary of State?

RE: Biden's Comment

Lets see the full quote...

“Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me.”

It clearly is a reactionary statement to what has happened with the Gov. Palin nomination, good or bad. What it comes down to here is that both choices (those being Palin and Clinton) are equally polarizing to some extent. While they would both serve to offset each other nicely, there was too much of a risk to take a Obama-Clinton ticket at full-face.

Both of the Clintons remain key political allies with the Obama campaign, and you can bet your ass that Hillary will be out there stumping for female votes in over the next seven weeks. We'll see what the new role for Bill will be, but that will be important for bringing in middle-class voters as well.

[skyz]

i really don't 'get' why not dissing hillary a fellow democrat is a bad stupid thing to do

is it 'you have to hate those who i hate' or your are no good or are stupid

[skyz]

Both of the Clintons remain key political allies with the Obama campaign

let me rephrase that to my humble opinion

both of the clintons remain key political figures in the democratic party

and it is entirely possible / probable that they will remain so even if obama does not win

the clintons do not need obama

obama does need them

[comhcinc]

i never saw this on tv so it must not be a big deal.

[tokenuser]

I still think Hilary will get tapped as SecState.

Who is more powerful? VP or SecState? I'd almost argue that it is the SecState. The VP might be the shadow of POTUS, but how influential are they in the cabinet? The SecState is the senior cabinet post.

[skyz]

I still think Hilary will get tapped as SecState.

Who is more powerful? VP or SecState? I'd almost argue that it is the SecState. The VP might be the shadow of POTUS, but how influential are they in the cabinet? The SecState is the senior cabinet post.

and it is the foreign policy job

[tokenuser]

and it is the foreign policy jobI honestly think that it would be her forte, and would help build her profile in the nation's eyes for a 2016 Presidential run (unless Obama REALLY screws the pooch in 08-12).

The next presidential term needs to be a consolidation term - one that focuses on domestic issues, and eases foreign tensions. I think the Community Activist approach of Obama is perfectly suited to that task. He'll surround hiomself with expert in other fields to fill out the parts he doesn't know (regardless of if they are yes men or not). I think he needs someone to play devil's advocate with him (which is why he chose Biden) to push his ideas and provide balance.

[masherscf]

If true, it's a perplexing admission. I'm not sure what good could come of it. Isn't this guy supposed to be a clever speaker?

Hillary and Obama are too much alike. McCain at least chose someone different. Palin is everything that McCain is not the moral conservative. McCain has a record of compromise on social issues that Palin helps mitigate. Who cares if she's got a cat-box of a resume.

Hillary and Obama do nothing for each other.

Obama's best choice would have been Edwards if the guy could have kept it in his pants. But, if Obama had anticipated McCain's move to tap the Governor of rural state with borderline out-of-touch social views and the hearts of his party's most extreme members...he would have picked Howard Dean.

[yssman]

Who is more powerful? VP or SecState? I'd almost argue that it is the SecState. The VP might be the shadow of POTUS, but how influential are they in the cabinet? The SecState is the senior cabinet post.

It depends on how you are choosing to look at it. Dick Cheney has had a far-larger role as VP than most who had come before him, however, much of that had been exercised in foreign policy. You could make an argument that he is in fact a more powerful figure than Condi Rice (and Colin Powell before), as you can see some of that executed in his trip to Georgia last week. Go back to the previous administration, Al Gore served more as a VP in the traditional sense, who was very active on domestic issues.

[rabidbadger]

let me rephrase that to my humble opinion

both of the clintons remain key political figures in the democratic party

and it is entirely possible / probable that they will remain so even if obama does not win

the clintons do not need obama

obama does need them

You are not doing Hillary, or her causes, any good constantly being annoyed by her losing. She lost fair and square, she took the low road, and lost, He took the high road and won. Their platforms are so similar it's ridiculous. You get everything you wanted but the vagina. And his ability to out manuever such a strong competitor like her, blindside her, beat her, and still garner her respect and support proves he has the Ovum to beat the Hell out of the opposition that hates and wants to destroy everything you believe in.

I'm NOT saying get on board or go abroad, Just face facts. Obama Has proven he got what it takes to get you what you want. And ... like token says. ... Sec/State. C'mon? What could be better? Beats going to state funerals and smiling and nodding.

[esophagus]

i really don't 'get' why not dissing hillary a fellow democrat is a bad stupid thing to do

is it 'you have to hate those who i hate' or your are no good or are stupid

Not that you can read this or anything, but I don't think anyone is upset by him paying Hilary a compliment. Its that he said other candidates were better suited for the job. You don't get any votes by saying other people are better than you.

Don't worry, we don't all hate your Hilary.

[rabidbadger]

... I don't think anyone is upset by him paying Hilary a compliment...

Damn right. Just another red herring from crumbles.

[masherscf]

Damn right. Just another red herring from crumbles.

Wait, wait, this poll says the 85% of all Obama supporters hate puppies!

[kahunablair]

I heard that Palin's nickname in Elementary school was "Puppy" Palin.

So... that means that 85% of Democrats hate Palin because she is a brunette! Right?

[quickliketheninja]

well, you can put pig on a lipstick...

[phatlip12]

well, you can put pig on a lipstick...

I think you got that backwards...

[esophagus]

You might be able to put pigs on lipstick. I don't think it would sell very well, though.

[skyz]

You are not doing Hillary, or her causes, any good constantly being annoyed by her losing. She lost fair and square, she took the low road, and lost, He took the high road and won. Their platforms are so similar it's ridiculous. You get everything you wanted but the vagina. And his ability to out maneuver such a strong competitor like her, blindside her, beat her, and still garner her respect and support proves he has the Ovum to beat the Hell out of the opposition that hates and wants to destroy everything you believe in.

I'm NOT saying get on board or go abroad, Just face facts. Obama Has proven he got what it takes to get you what you want. And ... like token says. ... Sec/State. C'mon? What could be better? Beats going to state funerals and smiling and nodding.

excuse me

i don't think you are the right person to be making sexist remarks

and obama has not won yet

i am beyond glad he did not choose hillary for vp

let's see how he does where it counts which is in november

in order for him to pick a secretary of state he has to be elected president and he has to make that choice not you not me not token

neither is a given

if he loses he will look like a fool

obama has not proven anything to me

unlike you that fact that he has a dick does not mean overwhelmingly much to me

he went to school he talks good sometimes that is all he has done or in imho ever will do

and actually lately he hasn't been speaking all that well either imho

i don't think he has the trajectory to vault into the oval office

you don't like that: bite me

as far as being annoyed i don't expect the average person to be that smart or to think for themselves in order to be annoyed i would first have to think those things

and for you to try to pull this macho slap down i find actually quite hilarious

'get on board or go abroad'

how original

[esophagus]

if he loses he will look like a foolNo, he will look like the guy who didn't win the election. George Bush won the last election. I don't think it was Al Gore that looked like the fool there.
obama has not proven anything to meYou've made us all well aware. Unfortunately, that isn't a reflection of whether or not he would make a good president.
unlike you that fact that he has a dick does not mean overwhelmingly much to meWho was it making rude remarks again? Was it Joel who said nothing, or you who insinuated that the only reason he would votefor Obama is that he isn't a woman? I forget.

Oh thats right. You can't read this.

[skyz]

how come it is way cool is diss mccain or sarah or hillary but to merely say 'i don't see it about obama' is cause for outrage

really why is that

just because he says things will be better doesn't make it necessarily so

so why shouldn't i say so ?

[masherscf]

how come it is way cool is diss mccain or sarah or hillary but to merely say 'i don't see it about obama' is cause for outrage

really why is that

just because he says things will be better doesn't make it necessarily so

so why shouldn't i say so ?



I love you, but sometimes I don't understand you. I suppose understanding isn't necessary.

[rabidbadger]

i don't think you are the right person to be making sexist remarks

I didn't say anything sexitst. You read it as sexist, somehow.


unlike you that fact that he has a dick does not mean overwhelmingly much to me
you don't like that: bite me
and for you to try to pull this macho slap down i find actually quite hilarious

where did that come from? I made the ovum ref as a jokey way to say gender don't matter.


'get on board or go abroad'

how original
just a different way of saying America, love it or leave it. the "broad" thing didn't even strike me til you mentioned it.
You are reading in "outrage" mode, I aint writing in it.

[bigshotprof]

More like stupid on his part. Let me ask you something. If Palin said the same thing would you have a different response? Be honest.

Why is it politicians don't think before they spek?

Biden was simply identifying the notion that Hillary might have been a better strategic choice. It plays differently live than in print. And besides, he didn't say that didn't make him a good choice. I don't see why it's even news. And Palin wouldn't say say for two reasons. First, she doesn't think anyone is better than her, and second, nobody has told her to.

[phatlip12]

Biden was simply identifying the notion that Hillary might have been a better strategic choice. It plays differently live than in print. And besides, he didn't say that didn't make him a good choice. I don't see why it's even news. And Palin wouldn't say say for two reasons. First, she doesn't think anyone is better than her, and second, nobody has told her to.

This is almost as bad as him saying McCain is the better choice. It was a stupid thing to say.

[tokenuser]

This is almost as bad as him saying McCain is the better choice. It was a stupid thing to say.Like all political coverage ... it is taken out of context. In the context of what was being said, it was a perfectly valid thing to say ... just like the lipstick on a pig comment.

[masherscf]

Like all political coverage ... it is taken out of context. In the context of what was being said, it was a perfectly valid thing to say ... just like the lipstick on a pig comment.

Obama borrowed that line from John McCain. McCain used it on Hillary last year. But, it wasn't plastered all over the New York Post of two days. Obama shouldn have said, "You can't put whipped cream on a turd and call it a sundae." It means the same thing.

[skyz]

I love you, but sometimes I don't understand you. I suppose understanding isn't necessary.

seems clear to me

i think this has to do with the 'if and only if' part of the truth tables

as in 'if and only is obama says / thinks it it is good valid true even AMERICAN (false)

or 'if and only if obama's words become actions do they mean anything' (true)

get a grip folks he is a politician not a god

he's from chicago not olympus

*thx for the <3*

[skyz]

just a different way of saying America, love it or leave it.

the "broad" thing didn't even strike me til you mentioned it

obama does not = America

not even obama biden mccain palin and clinton(s) = America

i don't have to drink the kool aid to be an american

that is my point it has become diss torted to that obama is the only choice for a true American

that's bs

and i did not notice the a broad had broad in it

[skyz]

This is almost as bad as him saying McCain is the better choice. It was a stupid thing to say.

*an existential point here*

if something happens (not saying it is that is not the point but if) to be true is it stupid to say so ?

[phatlip12]

Like all political coverage ... it is taken out of context. In the context of what was being said, it was a perfectly valid thing to say ... just like the lipstick on a pig comment.

If you just got a new job would you go up to your boss and say he should have hired the other guy because he was a better choice?

[skyz]

If you just got a new job would you go up to your boss and say he should have hired the other guy because he was a better choice?

obama and his running mate biden are both applicants for the job of prez and vice prez

the only job either has at this moment is senator

[peppersghost]

I believe that Biden was the better pick, but if Barack picked Hillary for VP then he would be the next president hands down.

[esophagus]

obama does not = America

not even obama biden mccain palin and clinton(s) = America

i don't have to drink the kool aid to be an american

that is my point it has become diss torted to that obama is the only choice for a true American

that's bs

and i did not notice the a broad had broad in itI would like your posts better if they had any explanation behind them. Does anyone get what this post means? No one thinks Obama is America. No one thinks McCain is America. People are choosing a leader, not a country. And you really think that people are saying Obama is the only choice for a true American? I think that saying comes out of republicans a lot more. And not about Obama.

Oh riiiiiight. You can't read this.

[phatlip12]

obama and his running mate biden are both applicants for the job of prez and vice prez

the only job either has at this moment is senator



Okay, so he made it through the first job interview. Would you say to your potential employer on the second interview:

"You know, the other guy you said no to in the last interview would have been a better choice"?

[quickliketheninja]

I think you got that backwards...
very astute

You might be able to put pigs on lipstick. I don't think it would sell very well, though.
bacon flavored lipstick? I think it'd be a hit

Sorry for the hijack, carry on.

[skyz]

If you just got a new job would you go up to your boss and say he should have hired the other guy because he was a better choice?

actually i would

actually i did

i had a job at an advertising agency and an assistant was hired for me and she was better for the job than i was

so i told them to promote her and left the company

i'm not reallly a 'job' person

i am more into a career where truth is more easily accepted

i don't want my daily bread to be at odds with the truth

[phatlip12]

actually i would

actually i did

i had a job at an advertising agency and an assistant was hired for me and she was better for the job than i was

so i told them to promote her and left the company

i'm not reallly a 'job' person

i am more into a career where truth is more easily accepted

i don't want my daily bread to be at odds with the truth

The key thing in what you just said is you then left the company. That sure isn't Bidens intentions. This was a bad idea. The fact that people are even talking about this is proof of that.

[tokenuser]

Goose: "Whats the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? ... I don't wear lipstick."