Take a hike, IKE!

[computoman]

My heart goes out to all the people who are at a loss because of hurricane Ike. I live just north of Galveston, Texas and even homes within a mile where I live were totally under water. It is amazing that there has been so little loss of life so far. If you know anyone from any of the areas affected, please do everything you can to help them. Even if it is just a bit of shelter for a while would be a great gift. I am lucky I have relatives that are able to give us a place to stay for bit. I would also wish that of the news media that are taking up resources that the local residents of Galveston should have instead would provide for themselves or go home and stay out of the way.

[comhcinc]

not to sound like a dick or anything, but really how much should i give? you live in a place where hurricanes come through all the time. it isn't like it is some new event. sometimes i think the best thing i can give is some good advice, i.e. MOVE.

[ariastar]

I've got a friend (he's on this forum, actually) who's had to evacuate. He's safe, but I'm worried.

[computoman]

not to sound like a dick or anything, but really how much should i give? you live in a place where hurricanes come through all the time. it isn't like it is some new event. sometimes i think the best thing i can give is some good advice, i.e. MOVE.

I am not suggesting giving anything except a spare bed for someone you personally know till they can go home.

[computoman]

I've got a friend (he's on this forum, actually) who's had to evacuate. He's safe, but I'm worried.

I wish them the best...

[murphy1d]

not to sound like a dick or anything, but really how much should i give? you live in a place where hurricanes come through all the time. it isn't like it is some new event. sometimes i think the best thing i can give is some good advice, i.e. MOVE.

Yeah, and people shouldn't live near earthquake areas, and tornado alleys, and anywhere that they could freeze in the winter.

Um..so that leaves Tennessee?

[phatlip12]

not to sound like a dick or anything, but really how much should i give? you live in a place where hurricanes come through all the time. it isn't like it is some new event. sometimes i think the best thing i can give is some good advice, i.e. MOVE.

Ignore him. As usual, he has no respect and could care less about his fellow human being.

[tokenuser]

My heart goes out to all the people who are at a loss because of hurricane Ike.No argument. Been following along on the news networks. I live just north of Galveston, Texas and even homes within a mile where I live were totally under water.How baout your place? All OK? I am guessing you don't know yet. It is amazing that there has been so little loss of life so far.Considering the dumbasses that ignore the mandatory evac orders - yeah, it is amazing. If you know anyone from any of the areas affected, please do everything you can to help them. Even if it is just a bit of shelter for a while would be a great gift.Wouldn't that go without question? Are people so wrapped up in their lives that they wouldn't help people ... especially people they know? I don't think you give people enough credit. I would also wish that of the news media that are taking up resources that the local residents of Galveston should have instead would provide for themselves or go home and stay out of the way.Media organisations are set up for this sort of thing and dont just land at a hotel. They take trucks, loaded with supplies, and generators. Indeed, they are often responsible for adhoc communication networks springing up via their satellite trucks. They are also play a vital role in getting out information and helping people through the emergency, both by relaying message, and providing updates you just dont get from government sources.

My wife and I looked at maps of the US, trying to determine where in the USA would be a safe place to live to avoid natural disasters. South Dakota was about it ... and even then you had to be prepared for the snow, and possible isolation because of it.

[comhcinc]

Ignore him. As usual, he has no respect and could care less about his fellow human being.

Ignore him. As usual he has no respect and could care less about other's opinions.


I am sorry but we are not talking about people in a third world country who have no choose in where they live. We are talking about people who choose to live in a place where there is a very high risk of a hurricane destroying every thing they own. I am sorry but at what point does personal responsibility come in?

I am not saying that you should not help out friends and family, I am asking at what point should we cut some of these people lose?

Do you know there are still people living in trailers from Katrina? At what point should do people get cut off?

[phatlip12]

Ignore him. As usual he has no respect and could care less about other's opinions.


I am sorry but we are not talking about people in a third world country who have no choose in where they live. We are talking about people who choose to live in a place where there is a very high risk of a hurricane destroying every thing they own. I am sorry but at what point does personal responsibility come in?

I am not saying that you should not help out friends and family, I am asking at what point should we cut some of these people lose?

Do you know there are still people living in trailers from Katrina? At what point should do people get cut off?

So what you're suggesting is everyone in large areas of the country should just pack up and leave?

The entire city of Miami should just go ahead and relocate to Nebraska. New Orleans would go to Oregon. All those folks living along the Mississippi river will go to Pennsylvania so they don't have to deal with flooding anymore. Los Angeles will relocate to Maryland to avoid earth quakes.

You're not being realistic. Some areas are more prone to natural disasters. You can't expect thousands of people living in an area thats been established for hundreds of years to up and move. It's not going to happen.

Instead of playing the blame game how about we help the people in need? Okay, for a second lets say they should all do what you said and move. Is it right to punish them because they don't? What about children that have no choice but to live there. They can't up in move. Leave them to die?

[tokenuser]

Thats not what he said.

If you live in a natural distaster prone area, you should be prepared. Hell, in SoCal, we had emergency supplies sitting in a large plastic garbage bin in the shed in the backyard.

Even in North Carolina, we have water and canned goods on hand, and actually just purchased a "crank lantern" for lighting. With Hanna potentially hitting us hard last week, I took out cash at the ATM, filled the car, and had non-perishable food on hand.

And importantly - you get insurance.

[phatlip12]

Thats not what he said.

If you live in a natural distaster prone area, you should be prepared. Hell, in SoCal, we had emergency supplies sitting in a large plastic garbage bin in the shed in the backyard.

Even in North Carolina, we have water and canned goods on hand, and actually just purchased a "crank lantern" for lighting. With Hanna potentially hitting us hard last week, I took out cash at the ATM, filled the car, and had non-perishable food on hand.

And importantly - you get insurance.

No, thats not what he said:

not to sound like a dick or anything, but really how much should i give? you live in a place where hurricanes come through all the time. it isn't like it is some new event. sometimes i think the best thing i can give is some good advice, i.e. MOVEHe said nothing about being prepared. He's not talking about stocking up on water, food and flashlights. He made no mention of such.

He said he doesn't care because they should just move.

[comhcinc]

So what you're suggesting is everyone in large areas of the country should just pack up and leave?

not everyone, but people that can't cope yeah maybe.


Instead of playing the blame game how about we help the people in need? Okay, for a second lets say they should all do what you said and move. Is it right to punish them because they don't? What about children that have no choice but to live there. They can't up in move. Leave them to die?

look we always help people in need (even if we are late) that is my point. when do these people stop being people in need and start being people who should know better?

and let make this very clear but for you try to play the "children card" again. we are not talking about small children struck out in the middle of no where, we are talking about all the money (billions) that is going to spent on clear these places up. where do you think most of that money is going to come from?

maybe it should be a law that you can't live in there places without owning comprehensive flood, fire, wind and every other insurance.

[tokenuser]

No, thats not what he said:

He said nothing about being prepared. He's not talking about stocking up on water, food and flashlights. He made no mention of such.

He said he doesn't care because they should just move.My reply was in reply to your reply in response to his reply that said:

I am sorry but we are not talking about people in a third world country who have no choose in where they live. We are talking about people who choose to live in a place where there is a very high risk of a hurricane destroying every thing they own. I am sorry but at what point does personal responsibility come in?

The best advice for people hit by this down there? Move. Its pretty simple, but not practical for everyone. For everyone else, it all about being prepared.

[bigshotprof]

not to sound like a dick or anything, but really how much should i give? you live in a place where hurricanes come through all the time. it isn't like it is some new event. sometimes i think the best thing i can give is some good advice, i.e. MOVE.

There aren't too many places in the USofA that aren't in the path of some sort of natural disaster. Where should we move?

[phatlip12]

My reply was in reply to your reply in response to his reply that said:


Well this response is in response to your response about my reply to HIS response! :D


I think.

[ryudo]

To move to a place where natural disasters don't happen is in the magical place called nowhere.

[tokenuser]

There aren't too many places in the USofA that aren't in the path of some sort of natural disaster. Where should we move?According to this article (http://www.slate.com/id/2126321), the safest place to live is Storrs, Connecticut.

[computoman]

Rumor has it that allegedly some media outlets did not come prepared.


Considering the dumbasses that ignore the mandatory evac orders - yeah, it is amazing.


Ironically years ago, people knew to get the heck out of the way of a hurricane. All those places and small cities around Galveston were a ghost town even at the threat of a hurricane. There is no place safe from disaster. Been there seen that. I have been told that the area on the street (one of the few places twenty five feet or thereabouts above sea level down there) where I live was not really affected too bad except for the electricity being out, but then people like to sugar coat things. My brother said his two story house did not even lose a window on the unprotected second floor. There are no large old trees where we live either. You do not know what has happened until you see it for yourself. According to some experienced meteorologists, our area will probably still have to be wary for another ten years or so for such weather till the next fifty year cycle. My college professor brother was supposed to go back to work today or tommorrow. Some schools are afraid of losing money from the state as they do not get funds if the school is closed when normally the school should be open even though students may not show up. Go figure....

[skyz]

To move to a place where natural disasters don't happen is in the magical place called nowhere.

i am ready for my move to shangri la any time

in the meantime people are not going to just up and leave florida and if they did other people would move in

[straylightrise]

yea. Basically all levels of government and society need to have a plan that works to minimize casualties and damage.