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secret-steve-crumbles
09-17-2008, 03:56 PM
Here we go. What a shocker. I love his statement: "It doesn't make sense."

So, there you go folks, it's not because I disagree with his ideals, it's because I'm racist. I love the media.

Race is arguably the biggest issue in this election, and it's one that nobody's talking about.

The differences between Barack Obama and John McCain couldn't be more well-defined. Obama wants to change Washington. McCain is a part of Washington and a part of the Bush legacy. Yet the polls remain close. Doesn't make sense…unless it's race.

Article (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/cafferty-obama-race-a-factor/)

tokenuser
09-17-2008, 04:00 PM
Playing the race card? Could it be that Palin is now on the McCain ticket - or is that playing the gender card?

A bigger difference than skin colour is the policies they each support.

According to polls Obama would still be ahead on the electoral college votes ... but its close.

secret-steve-crumbles
09-17-2008, 04:07 PM
Obama is winning Um.... you know that... ah fuck it.

bigshotprof
09-17-2008, 04:15 PM
I'm sort of with you on this one. Jack Cafferty is the poor man's Andy Rooney (or is Andy Rooney the poor man's Andy Rooney). He sits at his desk while others are talking and thinks "What can I be curmudgeonly about?" He may mean it, or he may not. His role is to be contrary.

bigshotprof
09-17-2008, 07:23 PM
My bad. I read the title wrong. I read Obama is winning. My mistake.

According to the latest poll of likely voters Obama is winning (Gallup, Hotline, Zogby), but not by a statistically significant amount.

tokenuser
09-17-2008, 07:28 PM
According to the latest poll of likely voters Obama is winning (Gallup, Hotline, Zogby), but not by a statistically significant amount.Thats the popular vote. The electoral college vote is more decisive in predicting an Obama win.

bigshotprof
09-17-2008, 07:59 PM
Thats the popular vote. The electoral college vote is more decisive in predicting an Obama win.

Today's Rasmussin Report has McCain with a slight electoral lead unless you count "leaners" in which chase Obama has a slight lead.

tokenuser
09-17-2008, 08:09 PM
I think you have to take the "leaner" states.

Eitherway its a close race so far, and allowing for error (why do they report a % and not a std deviation?) its really too close to call.

secret-steve-crumbles
09-17-2008, 09:43 PM
From what I've read, supposedly these polls (well, the big ones like Galloup (which has Obama ahead right now... ANGER)) are supposed to be very accurate.

I don't know how they work, but surely they have to take the electoral part of the election into account.

yssman
09-19-2008, 04:37 AM
Maybe, maybe not. A lot of these samples are done on a day-by-day basis, but, they all do it a little differently. The problem is that it is essentially impossible to get an accurate result unless you ask everyone, but even then, people are likely to change their opinion along the line.

While there are a kajillion different kinds of polls with different kinds of results, or goals in information. The big news today was Gov. Palin not attracting the female votes that she is supposed to, but how they quantify that exactly, I'm uncertain.