thebroken is NOT dead

[jay]

Listen carefully to the podcast, and no, thebroken is not dead.

[casework]

Niiice. Good to hear this.

[lglaporte]

Listen carefully to the podcast, and no, thebroken is not dead.

Only because I talked him into NOT saying it was over!

Leo

[jordinho]

This is gonna be like when they kept saying "thebroken is coming back" for like 2 years.


"thebroken is NOT dead"

- Jay Adelson, CEO
October 2009

[john]

This is gonna be like when they kept saying "thebroken is coming back" for like 2 years.


"thebroken is NOT dead"

- Jay Adelson, CEO
October 2009


exactly! finally someone realizes this. its been over for years. stop giving people false hope.

[ctrl-alt-tristan]

well i guess i should wait before posting such a topic as that i just hope there are some new ones soon

[-m-]

its always good to hear news that warms a shady soul this time of year

[crumbles]

Damn, I just downloaded n@n just to listen to this. Sounds like he REALLY doesn't want to do it anymore. Almost like he was just agreeing to be nice with Leo.....

I dunno, sounds like he doesn't want anything to do with it anymore to me... He must have been thinking this for a while too, because Leo said right prior to him speaking his response: "Do you want to make the announcement here?" Therefore, he must have been already saying: "OK, it's done" to his friends before.

Anyway, obviously you know Kevin more than I do Jay, but will it be as good of a show with Kevin not wanting anything to do with it now?

[klitzy]

Only because I talked him into NOT saying it was over!

Leo

Im guessing this isn't really Leo....

[crumbles]

Im guessing this isn't really Leo....You know, dissing Leo is a bannable offense.































nah, I'm just joshin' ya Klitzy.

[nmercer]

Glad to hear that it's not dead, but at the same time would like to see something to show that its not dead...lol....as people said above, two years pretty much says something is dead to me..

[-m-]

my boys and i are so pumped it aint dead...heavy party tonight to celebrate

cmon DOUBLE D AND ROSE "there aint nothin like a gangsta party"...and u know "california knows how to party"...

'singing in my head'
cause now we rollin down the street smokin endo sippin on gin n juice...laid back...BIOTCHES

and in the words of ez-e and nwa "gimme dat nut" and F UC K the p*l!*e straight down from the underground(<---litl high...or niot)

[maxshanly]

I actually made a sad face when I read on the Wikipedia Revision3 article that thebroken was dead, but luckily I now know that isn't true and thus I happy. :)

[chrismcq]

It may not be dead, but it will most likely be a while before we see another episode.

Does this mean Kevin doesn't want to do thebroken anymore? Can you replace krose on thebroken? I doubt it.

Surely double_d is sticking with it...right?

[chadr6]

It's basically dead. One episode every couple of years isn't really worth it. They should have one reunion episode and be finished with it. I like what Kevin was saying about making for Systm episodes though even if he won't be hosting every time.

[r3v]

One episode every couple of years isn't really worth it.Isn't worth what?

[masherscf]

Isn't worth what?

That's what I was wondering about. My wife and I have have a kid every couple of years. It's still worth it. Speilburg makes a movie every couple of years. Lots of stuff doesn't us a weekly timetable. Some of these young fellas really have to relax.

[tokenuser]

Some of these young fellas really have to relax.Its cranky old geeks like us that need to panic. Will there be another thebroken? Can they show my how to overclock my pace maker, open a beer bottle with my artificial hip, and social engineer my way to more jello at the nursing home?? COGs need to know!

[jakejarvis]

thebroken.org just expired!

http://thebroken.org
Domain Name:THEBROKEN.ORG
Created On:05-Dec-2001 01:10:26 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Dec-2006 15:05:29 UTC
Expiration Date:05-Dec-2007 01:10:26 UTC

Who are we supposed to believe now?

[-m-]

guys obviously they havent been keeping up with thebroken and just thought that it was 'dead'. dead meanig there prob wasnt a fan base anymore (which there is!) and they have been doing other things.

guys there is gonna be more eps just not at the pace we want them. its gonna be like watching chris farley and adam sandler in snl way back. When they had performances that had them take over in the script we loved it, but when they had just a one liner we liked it but it wasnt enough. we are obviously in that stage where its not enough and we want more, and they are trying to work it in.

[tokenuser]

thebroken.org just expired!

http://thebroken.org
Domain Name:THEBROKEN.ORG
Created On:05-Dec-2001 01:10:26 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Dec-2006 15:05:29 UTC
Expiration Date:05-Dec-2007 01:10:26 UTC

Who are we supposed to believe now?WTF are you talking about ... LOOK AT THE DATES ... expiration is 05-Dec-2007.

[masherscf]

WTF are you talking about ... LOOK AT THE DATES ... expiration is 05-Dec-2007.

Kids! They don't believe in looking at years anymore...

[bird603568]

WTF are you talking about ... LOOK AT THE DATES ... expiration is 05-Dec-2007.

ok you go to thebroken.org and tell me what it looks like

[alexsk8ca]

It's def. not thebroken's website. I am guessing they will make one more totally awesome episode and than end it there or something like that. I do hope I am wrong and it goes on forever, but it doesn't look that way.

[darknessgp]

Listen carefully to the podcast, and no, thebroken is not dead.

Jay, honestly it doesn't matter what Rev3 or anyone at Rev3 says. I won't believe it's not dead until we have another episode, teaser, etc. We all went through the 2 years of being told it wasn't dead and that another episode is coming. Seriously, if it's not dead, don't tell us it's not dead actually make it live.

[klitzy]

Jay, honestly it doesn't matter what Rev3 or anyone at Rev3 says. I won't believe it's not dead until we have another episode, teaser, etc. We all went through the 2 years of being told it wasn't dead and that another episode is coming. Seriously, if it's not dead, don't tell us it's not dead actually make it live.

As we would say in the IRC....BURNED

Just kidding Jay...All love for you my "brotha"

[g33k0ft3ch]

I listened to the episode, Kevin said that he does not have the time to do a episode every year or 6 months. Also it would be when he could get everyone together, and Ramzi wants to get paid, but who would want you sponsor a hacking show?

Anyways, from my pinpoint I think Kevin wants thebroken to live, but he has to do it at the right time. Sometimes I accually think of what they will do next, and they blow me away with what they do.

And that is what I perceive of the situation..not like anyone listens to my ramblings anyway.

[logant]

ok you go to thebroken.org and tell me what it looks like

That's because they've moved it here (http://www.revision3.com/thebroken).

[tokenuser]

That's because they've moved it here (http://www.revision3.com/thebroken).It is still odd that its a placeholder website, and not a redirect.

So - could thebroken.org have been snapped up by a squatterdue to a lapse in monitoring domain status? Or was the redirect not created when the domain was re-registered over at Registerfly?

[optimus]

I can hardly call a show with approximately one episode/year "alive". Just let it (and Systm) rest in peace already.

'Under promise and over deliver', not the other way around.

Rev3 sucks.

>>Kevin said that he does not have the time to do a episode every year or 6 months

ROFL. "I don't have the time". WORST. EXCUSE. EVER. I hate when people do that. Just admit it, you don't want to *make the time*; it's not worth it to you.

Sorry bro, many of us work 10 hour days and still find the time to take on other projects and hobbies. There's always time in the day if you want to make it. Lazy; get some proper treatment and stop self medicating your depression with booze and crap.

>>My wife and I have have a kid every couple of years. It's still worth it. Speilburg makes a movie every couple of years. Lots of stuff doesn't us a weekly timetable. Some of these young fellas really have to relax.

Oh come on, thebroken isn't a a Hollywood blockbuster or a life changing event like the birth of a child. Get off the happy plant.

- This angry flame brought to you by a former Rev3 fan.

[splat]

This angry flame brought to you by a former Rev3 fan.

If your a former fan, I invite you to kindly leave the forums.

[darknessgp]

I listened to the episode, Kevin said that he does not have the time to do a episode every year or 6 months. Also it would be when he could get everyone together, and Ramzi wants to get paid, but who would want you sponsor a hacking show? ...

I'm sure there are quiet a few companies that would be interested. I don't think the lack of sponsorship problem is because of the subject material. i think it's the lack of an actual production schedule or anything remotely reliable. I doubt diggnation would have any sponsors if it turned into having an episode whenever they felt like it or had "free time."

[originx]

I can hardly call a show with approximately one episode/year "alive". Just let it (and Systm) rest in peace already.

'Under promise and over deliver', not the other way around.

Rev3 sucks.

>>Kevin said that he does not have the time to do a episode every year or 6 months

ROFL. "I don't have the time". WORST. EXCUSE. EVER. I hate when people do that. Just admit it, you don't want to *make the time*; it's not worth it to you.

Sorry bro, many of us work 10 hour days and still find the time to take on other projects and hobbies. There's always time in the day if you want to make it. Lazy; get some proper treatment and stop self medicating your depression with booze and crap.

>>My wife and I have have a kid every couple of years. It's still worth it. Speilburg makes a movie every couple of years. Lots of stuff doesn't us a weekly timetable. Some of these young fellas really have to relax.

Oh come on, thebroken isn't a a Hollywood blockbuster or a life changing event like the birth of a child. Get off the happy plant.

- This angry flame brought to you by a former Rev3 fan.


I weep for your children. hahahahah just kidding

[maxshanly]

I can hardly call a show with approximately one episode/year "alive". Just let it (and Systm) rest in peace already.

'Under promise and over deliver', not the other way around.

Rev3 sucks.

>>Kevin said that he does not have the time to do a episode every year or 6 months

ROFL. "I don't have the time". WORST. EXCUSE. EVER. I hate when people do that. Just admit it, you don't want to *make the time*; it's not worth it to you.

Sorry bro, many of us work 10 hour days and still find the time to take on other projects and hobbies. There's always time in the day if you want to make it. Lazy; get some proper treatment and stop self medicating your depression with booze and crap.

>>My wife and I have have a kid every couple of years. It's still worth it. Speilburg makes a movie every couple of years. Lots of stuff doesn't us a weekly timetable. Some of these young fellas really have to relax.

Oh come on, thebroken isn't a a Hollywood blockbuster or a life changing event like the birth of a child. Get off the happy plant.

- This angry flame brought to you by a former Rev3 fan.

Shut the hell up, you nub. :D

[hackedalias]

No matter what people say, TheBroken has been dead ever since episode 3. Dan and Kevin just have better things to do now and the broken doesnt fund them the money to live. For them, they're better off earning something than just giving it out.


I miss the broken.

[crumbles]

No matter what people say, TheBroken has been dead ever since episode 3. Dan and Kevin just have better things to do now and the broken doesnt fund them the money to live. For them, they're better off earning something than just giving it out.Not to mention that it's pretty friggin obvious that Kevin doesn't want to do it anymore. Like I said, how can the show still be good if they don't even want to do it anymore?

[phamtq]

The problem is that the show doesn't really know what it is yet. It's kind of missing it's identity. Granted, you could called it a hacker comedy video podcast but it doesn't really lock down on what it is. It's kind of all over the place.

It seems that most of the Revision 3 content has one main focus and works it's content around that. I hate to use 'Diggnation' as an example but it's a prime example of what works.

It has things like comedy and guys drinking beer but it's main focus is covering the top stories from 'digg.com'. 'thebroken' doesn't really focus on "hacking". Now I know people will tell me that they tell you how to hack things but it's feel is more akin to 'Systm'. Hacking is more than just "Do step 1, 2, 3, and presto!".

If I could play producer for a moment (and that's a BIG if), I'd show the hacks but I wouldn't break it down in procedural manner. I'd start out showing what the hack can do, then explain WHY it does what it does, and finally give the audience the breadcrumbs it needs to get started.

By doing this not only do you excuse yourself from legal troubles, but you find that niche which is giving people a nice solid kick in the right direction in hacking. In that sense, it's a real, helpful, hacking show.

[crater]

Listen carefully to the podcast, and no, thebroken is not dead.

I think it might have been better to just leave it to people thinking it was dead... so 3 years from now an episode would have been a supprise.

[dib]

I'm happy it's back and hope there is at least 1 ep every couple months.

[leviathan666]

I'm happy it's back and hope there is at least 1 ep every couple months.

DiB i don't think that will ever happen, and if it does the broken will loose some of the genius that it was, an illusive fun show made by some kids for laughs =]

[sidtoner]

Listen carefully to the podcast, and no, thebroken is not dead.

it has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!

'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!

'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

THIS IS AN EX VIDCAST!!

[freshgrease]

I love the Broken so much. Kevin is teh P-I-M-P. Seriously, though, I was pissed with that huge lag time between 3 and 4. If you need material 2600 magazine would be a great source of ideas.

If it is not dead...it is on its last breath. I am sure a community in the style (or atleast user base) of digg could pump out enough ideas, money, and popularity. Hell, you already have digg, Kevin. You wouldn't even be close to starting from scratch.

[klitzy]

Thats the thing....Even if someone says its not dead....It is. TheBroken is over. Maybe not officially but it is. It was over before episode 4. Its January now, thats 3 months from the last episode. Not two years...But 3 months is even a long time. Until there are new episodes about once a month...Its dead.

[kowgod]

Then it's dead in the same sense it was dead between Episodes 1 and 2, 2 and 3 and 3 and 4.

Look, thebroken was and probably will continue to be something Kevin, Dan, Ramzi and the rest will do for fun, from time to time, when they feel like it. The way it was is the way it will always be. But I'm sure we haven't seen the last of it...

[dustdevil]

Perhaps sponsors won't touch the show because of the flakeness of the releases. thebroken and Systm come to mind. (soon to be control alt chicken)

I can understand if this is just a hobby but I think when you are trying to generate revenue you owe it to your viewers and your sponsors to be more up front.

If it's just a hobby buisness then let us know. Then I think you will see people back off.

[darknessgp]

Thats the thing....Even if someone says its not dead....It is. TheBroken is over. Maybe not officially but it is. It was over before episode 4. Its January now, thats 3 months from the last episode. Not two years...But 3 months is even a long time. Until there are new episodes about once a month...Its dead.

I wouldn't say once a month, but atleast some scheldule. Hell, every 3 months would be decent. Even every 6 months would be good. But to just be like "It's not dead, but we don't have time" is like when you go to a restaurant and order and then are told that they are working on your food only to find out that they are in the back taking a smoke break...

@kowgod, perhaps we haven't seen the last of a show entitled "The Broken" but the last episode was nothing like ep 1-3. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't the same. So, in many people's eyes even if they do continue to make episodes, the real The Broken is dead.

[netjedi]

This sht pwns, keep it cuming. Hell if ur livr can tak it do it daily! Thanx fur gittin it bak on the net beotches.

[sugarsickness]

This sht pwns, keep it cuming. Hell if ur livr can tak it do it daily! Thanx fur gittin it bak on the net beotches.

wow, i love you.

[magunwarrior]

This sht pwns, keep it cuming. Hell if ur livr can tak it do it daily! Thanx fur gittin it bak on the net beotches.

Wow it must be so hard to add one more letter to some of those words eh?

[synack]

Neo, I believe.

[diggfuji]

Im glad to read that broken is not dead, I would like to see another episode though. I just reccently found about Revision3 (Lol at the name btw good stuffs and been watching these crazy shows for like 72 hours :D.. good to see techtv is still alive.. well the community atleast.) by accessing the broken website to find revision3. I figured it was dead after ep3 becuse they didnt send anything to the mailing list for atleast 3 years :( and checked the website to find this forum..yeah anyway! awsome to read more on the way.. btw what podcast are you folks talking about?

[phrostbyte]

I know it has to be extremely time consuming to make something like thebroken, however the community needs this kind of thing more than ever now. I don't think Kevin Rose understands how many people follow him. Double D and Kevin have converted about 4 of my stereotypical jock friends into computer fanatics, I don't think think they understand how much the community needs shows and things like this. If they don't want to continue doing the show then at least find some of their buddies that will do a bulk of the show and let kevin and double d make some appearances here and there each episode. There have to be tons of hackers willing to do this in the bay area. Thebroken really has been dead for a while and if Kevin isn't excited about it anymore, I can't see it coming back to life anytime soon. (I really hope it does come back to life)

[vahnx]

They need to do a segment on using the Vista stop timer crack and modding the Wii and PS3.

[jushazen]

Ya the broken was alot cooler than systm. I would rather have another broken episode in the next 6 months than a systm one. But the next broken ep will prolly take another 2 years to do... lol ><

[ericbgray]

More Broken :)
please more broken

[j34nn07]

Yeah, Revive TheBroken from his ashes before the next full moon ; or I'll be cursed... I mean TheBroken was so awesome... I missed it so much. Maybe someone should make a new thread about some topics fans want to have in the show.... ?:cool:

[cholinator1993]

If it was dead, i would have nothing to live for. It is the best podcst evr. but when is the nxt episode?\

[damnlife]

the Broken..the Broken...the Broken! Where is episode 5? Waiting so patiently..or at least trying.

[alaskalonewolf]

Be Patient. If you Blog it... it will come.

[weedhappy]

I hope the next episode lists something about hacking High Def Discs. That'd be Kewl! XD

[crumbles]

Anyone else see what Jay said about TheBroken yesterday?

------------

Is there a specific reason Revision3 stopped doing The Broken?

Our intent is to produce it as a comical labor of love. We know that it has a big following, but our intent is to continue to produce the show on relatively rare occasions. Kevin is extraordinarily busy so it’s hard for him to do more than DiggNation.

Is it just me, or is "relatively RARE" the same thing as dead?

Seriously, they need to stop stringing us along with TheBroken. One show every two years is ridiculous.

Link to Jay saying that: http://blog.wired.com/business/2007/05/exclusive_the_d.html

[scottyneox38]

Anyone else see what Jay said about TheBroken yesterday?


No, what did he say?

[crumbles]

No, what did he say?
Um, did you actually read my post?

[scoobydiesel]

hahaha....

i read it.
so i still hope we get something new soon, systm is semi back it seems so i hope thebroken can find a way.

if kevins really busy i still they they could find time for him to do like the opening or something, if he cant do a whole eppy.

[cypher_ftw]

Is it just me, or is "relatively RARE" the same thing as dead?

Seriously, they need to stop stringing us along with TheBroken. One show every two years is ridiculous.


Relatively Rare is definately not the same as Dead. What would you choose,

1. Your sex life is dead (no sex)
2. Getting laid is "Relatively Rare"

makes the choice a lot clearer, doesn't it! Plus anyway, at least this way you wont get complacent with TheBroken. One day you will be pissed about something and then you will see an RSS or slashdot article about a new TheBroken ep. That new ep could be the thing that stops you turning from a pastey nerd to a pastey emo. Remember that.

[dcast777]

Is anyone else ready for Revision to quit doing all the boring music shows and get back to what everyone loves , like the broken and systm? I understand that they are going to branch out to do other shows but why are they doing so little of the shows that made the business what it is?

[christoscamaro]

Thebroken is a great show. I remember finding their website back in the day, and loved it. Even signed up to their mailing list. (which I don't recall, ever emailing me and saying 'check digg.com and diggnation out' when they were new)

I'm glad they did a 4th episode. I hope the show isn't totally dead, I thought they did a good job on the last one and it's fun and informative. Even though i'll never do anything they show you how to do on the show, it's still entertaining and funny.

[dlberk]

Great to see The Broken back up, hope you guys keep going. Great new episode, more more more

[thepierre]

I understand that the broken is not Kevin's main concern, but if it does have such a big following, why not have Double D and a new host do that show, so it can be done on a regular basis?

I am sure Rev3 can find a tech savvy cool kid that would love to host that show.

[tempesta]

because its bloody well dead....at best all the people who go on about a return will get some once a year cop-out return.

surely Rev3 has enough content that you people are being kept entertained, so you dont really need kevin and dan to pretend to smoke a joint and get their "social engineering" on right?

[firestonex]

The Broken Is sweet. I never watched them until yesterday, when I decided to watch all 4 of them. (Mainly because my nintendo Wii will play Rev3 shows now!!!!!!!!!!!) I hate sitting at my pc watching shows. And I only download the ones I watch regularly, like Infected and play them on my tv. The broken was intertaining, and I got a lot of useful info from the show that I just can't get without google. :D I hope to see the Broken up again.. One day...

[neofox48]

Let me guess thebroken is not over. just every once in a blue moon occurance! LOL
I stay loyal to it and drink my jesus juice until the next update!

Diggnation is the shiz anyway

[pezz]

If 'the Broken' isn't dead it's definately suffer from a fatal illness ever since the Diggnation podcast started. As is the Diggnation podcast had, in my opinion, a negative effect on the Systm episodes as well. Is too bad I do look forward to another episode of 'the broken' but I've pretty much excepted that what I enjoyed of the podcasts on this domain, or when the podcasts had a self title hostname/domain, have come and gone. I've past the point of holding my breath for the quality content I'd come to expect and enjoy in the begining of the podcast endeavor I'd seen and considered was started by Kevin Rose. It is too bad cause when these podcasts started it was perfect timing for when the g4 content was headed on the downhill slope I can only hope that won't be the direction over here too.

[simon27]

I know Kevin is busy with Diggnation and all his web 2.0 companies. But I would be willing to shell out for the rev3 $5 a month support fee just to see more episodes of the broken.

[crazymagician000]

I love or should I say loved "the broken". For me, being the geek I am, I found it very interesting and awesome... I wish it would come back... even if they didnt do it often, it would still be good to have new episodes. I also agree with everyone who said it should be a members only show. That would definitly force me to become a member.

[kroan]

Listen carefully to the podcast, and no, thebroken is not dead.

orly?... :confused:

[dmcka]

noobs many... not including my self since I rarely use this forum
actual members... few in this thread

Why my dear friends? Perhaps its because the dangers one can cause with a bit of missing knowledge is also equally great as the knowledge known. Also not to say they may or may not return. I would have to say that Monty Python may say "their not dead yet." I however would assume though they have closed the door for the moment. As like others have had.

[dmcka]

As like our presidential tarnished leader shaped like some dwarfed tree. take a close look at what he's said and his track record. I'd say that this has been a smart move for Kevin. You know some knowledge shouldn't be shared. Those whom would use it irresponsibly would possibly permit chaos into our normally bland lives.

[snigle]

Soo.. On the new site design thebroken was moved in the archive. It says "Gone But Not Forgotten" Should this sticky be removed? Or can I still hope for a joyous return someday of the show?..

[adamc]

TheBroken IS dead

:(

[super_dog_87]

Where is thebroken?... There should at least be a going away video. At least one last shot to satisfy everyone... But I'm sure Revision3 is stopping the show for legal reasons mostly.

[d3solation]

It was just a matter of time. I understand kevin's situation. But, I dont see why someone else couldnt do it. And, the stuff they did wasn't ever illegal. Well, I guess that depends on where and how you used it. But it seemed to me that their was a legit legal reason for everything. Its kinda sad that one of the shows that brought revision3 to be what it is today is no longer made.

[super_dog_87]

To me any good hacker could do the show. I do not think thebroken should be about any certain person. It is more of a underground show anyone good hacker could contribute to. It would be nice for them to re-try it.

[neutrino15]

Let people submit their hacking-while-intoxicated videos.. Then rev3 wont be doing anything illegal! :D

[cry0]

the broken was amazing for the information, it gave the people who watched it information legally about things people actually wanted to know. Not random new things that pop up around the web, regardless weather or not i like those things i wish i had a show that would still give my hacker side something.

[grayson]

http://pownce.com/kevin/notes/1589818/

[jesus]

I love the Broken! :D

[darknessgp]

http://pownce.com/kevin/notes/1589818/

Thanks for posting something in a super old thread that has no relevance on the topic, whether the Broken is dead or not which sadly it appears to be.

[grayson]

Relevance? I suppose Kevin Rose saing that he's going to try to fim another episode of the Broken has no relevence on a thread about whether the Broken is dead or not...

[yoshiyuki]

I hope it happens.

[otis]

I hope that KR and D_D do find some time to make a couple episodes. If they can, make them similar to the way they made the first 3. I don't think the show would be the same without these two in it. Maybe one idea would be to make the show similar to the DarkTips that KR used to do on TSS (r.i.p.)? But instead of having only 3-5min to talk about it, they would have how ever long they want/need by doing in on here. By doing similar as the DarkTips, I mean focus on 1 topic at a time instead of several. Then maybe it would be easier to put together shows more often. Just a thought.

[travelingteam]

So, does anyone know when Kevin said he would be doing the show?

[tokenuser]

So, does anyone know when Kevin said he would be doing the show?Tuesday.

[darknessgp]

Tuesday.

which month and year?

[tokenuser]

which month and year?What do you think I am? Psychic?? I had a hard enough time picking a day, let alone a month or a year.

[darknessgp]

What do you think I am? Psychic?? I had a hard enough time picking a day, let alone a month or a year.

Well, I'm sure you'll have plenty of time to develop your psychic abilities before thbroken comes out.

[einhanderkiller]

thebroken :(