TV: Castle (with Nathan Fillion)

[wideawakewesley]

Thanks to Dan for tweeting the trailer for Nathan Fillion's next project, Castle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLQY3KyWRk

Have to say, from that trailer alone, I'm sold.

Wes

[poltah]

If this wasn't Fillion, no way I'd be interested. I have no idea how they're going to sell me on the fact that the Police seem to allow Castle to do whatever he wants.
But since it is Fillion I'm sure they just have him smile and wink and everbody will be sold.

I just pray to the TV gods this is going to be good. Fillion deserves to be a star.

[nshady]

The story's been done a thousand times before, but like poltah said, since it's Nathan Fillion I'll pay attention. I really liked the scene where he disarmed the guy... that was pretty awesome.

[ike6116]

Since it's Fillion I will still not pay attention but be disappointed that a good actor is working on another shit project.

[tokenuser]

Murder he wrote?

Do we need another cop drama.

Sorry. Had to say it. I guess the formula for procedural police dramas just work, and are popular.

OK, rant over. This looked good.

[tokenuser]

BTW - Can't get your "fill" of Fillion?

Since the cancellation of Drive, and his infrequent appearances on Desperate Housewives, we know he has been working on side projects - like his role as Captain Hammer in Dr Horribles Singalong.

But who knew he was doing pr0n? Yes, Nathan stars in "Nailing Your Wife" (http://www.spike.com/video/pg-porn-pg-porn/3041858).

[wideawakewesley]

I'd love to nail Nathan's wife.

;)

Wes

[godmode]

This looks terrible. I dont think even Nathan Fillion can save it.

[esophagus]

BTW - Can't get your "fill" of Fillion?

Since the cancellation of Drive, and his infrequent appearances on Desperate Housewives, we know he has been working on side projects - like his role as Captain Hammer in Dr Horribles Singalong.

But who knew he was doing pr0n? Yes, Nathan stars in "Nailing Your Wife" (http://www.spike.com/video/pg-porn-pg-porn/3041858).Was just coming to post that.

[poltah]

I never saw Drive but it sounded really bad. Anybody see it? Did it ever even air a pilot?

[tokenuser]

I never saw Drive but it sounded really bad. Anybody see it? Did it ever even air a pilot?Drive had the potential to unlock a shit load of awesome on TV. 3 eps in, and they canned it. Bastards.

It wasn't a show that was going to win awards, or enrich the lives of those that watched, or stiulate the nations intellect ... but it had an interesting premise, and lots of car chase/stunt work.

What could go wrong?

[Bret]

This looks terrible. I dont think even Nathan Fillion can save it.

Im a HUGE Fillion fan and I kind of agree with you. I dont like who they cast opposite him..I dont buy her as a cop. I know its just a trailer, but Its just not clicking with me. I dont think it will stay on past half a season. It could be cool, but I already have a show between a girl and a guy that solve crimes...its called bones and there chemistry will be hard to beat.

But like I said, Im a big fillion fan and if it works out...great. But right now Im not feeling it. The gun scene was funny though.

And Drive wasnt very good. Had it gone 3 I think it would have been cancelled anyway. But we will never know if it would have grown on me because 3 episodes isnt enough time for any show to prove itself.

[esophagus]

Im a HUGE Fillion fan and I kind of agree with you. I dont like who they cast opposite him..I dont buy her as a cop. I know its just a trailer, but Its just not clicking with me. I dont think it will stay on past half a season. It could be cool, but I already have a show between a girl and a guy that solve crimes...its called bones and there chemistry will be hard to beat.

It sounds like you are not watching Life. Only cop show I watch. Oh, and Dexter, but I just started that on Saturday.

[Bret]

It sounds like you are not watching Life. Only cop show I watch. Oh, and Dexter, but I just started that on Saturday.

I love dexter, I just used Bones as a reference because its the same type of "Girl and guy" team up type circumstance.

[forbizzle]

He must need money, this looks horrible. And the production value on that trailer makes me want to cry. It was as if somebody was trying to parody shitty TV ads.

[mybigtoe]

im sold

[satori]

I never saw Drive but it sounded really bad. Anybody see it? Did it ever even air a pilot?

I really liked drive and liked where it was going. It kept adding new layers to the story even in the short time it was on TV. I was quite sad when it was shit canned.

[cole-w]

First episode airs tonight...who's watching?

[serenity]

I never saw Drive but it sounded really bad. Anybody see it? Did it ever even air a pilot?

I really enjoyed the few (4, was it?) episodes we got of 'Drive". I would have watched the hell outta that show.
Sounded crappy in theory but Nathan made it awesome.

[tokenuser]

I really enjoyed the few (4, was it?) episodes we got of 'Drive". I would have watched the hell outta that show.
Sounded crappy in theory but Nathan made it awesome.Drive was full of awesome potential that was cut off on the freeway.

I forgot Castle was on tonight ... and the DVR is busy already. Might need to *ahem* "catch a rerun" *ahem* tomorrow.

[neverendingwhitelights]

This show would be terrible if it weren't for Fillion and his natural charisma, but since they have him, I reckon I'm gonna watch it.

[rokov]

I really liked it. Even though the premise is incredibly formulaic, the writing and Nathan Fillion definitely make it worthwhile. Incidentally, with Dancing with The Woz and Caste on the same night, it looks like ABC is really going after the geek audience.

[wideawakewesley]

I really liked it. Even though the premise is incredibly formulaic, the writing and Nathan Fillion definitely make it worthwhile. Incidentally, with Dancing with The Woz and Caste on the same night, it looks like ABC is really going after the geek audience.

Woz was awesome, can't wait to check out Castle.

Wes

[damnedeyez]

Well, the pilot was a hoot...I'm in for the season, unless they change directions drastically.

[quantumtheory]

I'm so glad Fillion has his own TV show again. I really enjoyed the show last night. hopefully it sticks around

[cole-w]

Just saw the ratings...11.60 million viewers for the pilot.

Sounds pretty good to me.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0704779/

[truebullfan]

He was good but the show was very average. The female cop was really hot.

Oh and those ratings dont really reflect how well the show did. It was after Dancing w/ the stars which is a ratings monster. Castle lost many of the lead-in viewers. It did OK by TV standards. We will have to see how it does w/o a huge lead in.

[cole-w]

Oh and those ratings dont really reflect how well the show did. It was after Dancing w/ the stars which is a ratings monster. Castle lost many of the lead-in viewers. It did OK by TV standards. We will have to see how it does w/o a huge lead in.


That's a very astute point, but over 11 million viewers for a tv pilot is pretty decent regardless of the lead in, I would think, right?


Next week will probably be a better indicator on how the series will do as far as ratings go.

[jivetrky]

I think I'm going to like the show. It's hard not to like anything with Nathan Fillion. Now I just have to stop wishing it was Firefly...:(

[darknessgp]

The first episode definitely peaked my interest. Definitely way too formulaic, but I could see it being good. I'm a bit disappointed the way the pilot kind of wraps up, I was expecting it to be a bit more. Seems like an interesting cross between Californication (aka writer with too much time on his hands), Psych (or The Mentalist, if you prefer), and random CSI or Law and Order show.

[quence]

Does anyone else think that the pilot's premise would've worked better as a standalone movie? The two of them working together again really seems like a stretch, and I don't see how they can keep it going past a season.

But besides that, it's pretty entertaining.

[cogo]

I really liked the first episode. Nathan Fillion is amazing in anything he does. I hope the next episode is as good.

Apple! Apple!

[darknessgp]

Does anyone else think that the pilot's premise would've worked better as a standalone movie? The two of them working together again really seems like a stretch, and I don't see how they can keep it going past a season.

But besides that, it's pretty entertaining.

I kind of agree, it would have made since as a standalone movie or 2 hour pilot. The premise of the copycat murders seemed to be rushed in solving. and it would have been a great way to start episode 2 with him tagging along to do research... though having that at the end of the pilot really drove home the idea that he's going to write about his experiences.

[damnedeyez]

though having that at the end of the pilot really drove home the idea that he's going to write about his experiences.

It also gives them an out if they decide to cancel it...just have their friction be too much and Castle says he's seen enough, etc.

[serenity]

I wasn't thrilled with the first episode. It has potential and most of the actors were good to great except the lead chick. I can't stand her and she might sink the show for me. She's awful and always looks/feels like she's "acting".

Nathan was awesome, of course. (Loved the "Apples! Apples!" line, so funny)
I like his Mom just fine and really liked his interaction with his daughter.

[cybersuchus]

I thought the pilot was pretty terrible (but then what pilot isn't). I'll keep watching for Fillion, but that's the only thing I find interesting. The contrived relationship between the cop and Castle, just didn't flow well (likely because they were trying to do too much too soon), and the mother just screamed comic relief.

I do look forward to seeing how the series goes from here. As it's on ABC though (which is like Fox, only they don't rearrange time slots to make it seem like bad ratings was the cause), I don't have high hopes for it's success.

[gm_wil]

I must still be riding the Firefly buzz with ol' Nate because I really liked the pilot. I'm giving the lead chic credit because when he told her story there was some good acting, otherwise it's in her head she's one of the people who the show is riding on and that is a bit nerve wracking - Nathan's "been there done that" on a few pilots and series that were busted - so he's enjoying himself. She'll get better when some of that pressure is lifted and she gets in a groove. I have high hopes for the show.

Odd the show's site says she was born in 1980 but IMDB says 78 . . .

http://homepage.mac.com/wilknoble/wisconsin.jpg

Hey, I knew I liked her for a reason!

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[cole-w]

11.48 million viewers this week, pretty consistent I guess...

[bjkrautk]

Hey, I knew I liked her for a reason!

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Wisconsin = Win. (Something I hope the Basketball team remembers on Friday.)

I get the strangest sense while watching Castle. I know that the show isn't the greatest, but at the same time Fillion just seems to be having so much fun in the lead role that it elevates the material for me. I don't know that I'd still be watching the show had anyone else been cast in the role (save for Bruce Campbell, of course).

[browncoat24]

I've watched all 3 episodes and have thoroughly enjoyed each of them.

I think it's so great when a show can pull off a believable father/daughter relationship and I feel that this show does it very well.

In a endless sea of detective shows I will make time for Castle for sure. Not as good as Life but Life has set the bar really high for me as a detective show.

[gm_wil]

For only having 3 episodes it feels like they have been at it for quite some time . . . oh Nate, you slick sunnuvabitch.

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[aerodash84]

I just started watching the other night. Caught a re-run on Saturday and gotta say it was catchy. The humor to a crime/mystery show was great. I've been sold on it and it's on my DVR now.

[darknessgp]

well, 3 episodes in I'm hooked. The pilot was kind of a let down, but gave a good reason for Castle to be following her... these past 2 episodes have been really good. like Psych meets Nathan Fillion, except without some odd "he's super observant" stuff. I don't know why, but rather than just making some observantion, somehow him saying "That's how I'd write it." makes it feel better.

[dr-nix]

Damn now i'm hooked too, good show. Checked out the first 3 eps after i stumbled upon this thread about a week ago. So thanks :)

[gm_wil]

Gotta bump this up because it was another good episode . . . and Jeff is so right about her . . . something about her just makes ya double take along with your inner voice saying "booyah" . . .

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[jks15]

I'm really loving this series so far. It's improved each week so I'm hoping it only gets better as time goes on. Nathan Fillion does a great job.

[gm_wil]

I'm bumping this thread for the benefit of the RAD community. This last episode reminded me so much of the Firefly one when he (I use he like there could be any other) went to the ball with Kaylee.

If you were a fan of firefly, I assure you, you would like this show. It's a detective show, not a csi procedure driven one. This is Nate playing Malcom Reynolds without a gun . . . using his charm as his only weapon.

Check that - This is exactly what I imagined Malcom Reynolds would have been like BEFORE the battle of Serenity.

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[sugarsickness]

The scene with him in the car pretending to drive and making the music with his mouth.... and then later when actual music starts playing... I couldnt stop laughing...

[cybersuchus]

Yeah, this series has definitely grown on me. I didn't think I could handle two procedural cop shows (my other fav is Bones), but so far it has worked out well. I still think the mother is a useless comic foible (in the rare moments when she even gets to be in the show), but all the scenes with Castle and Beckett are awesome (e.g. the final scene from last week where Beckett reveals some of her past). Same for the scenes with Castle and Alexis.

Here's hoping the show stays around for awhile.

[poltah]

I'm bumping this thread for the benefit of the RAD community. This last episode reminded me so much of the Firefly one when he (I use he like there could be any other) went to the ball with Kaylee.

If you were a fan of firefly, I assure you, you would like this show. It's a detective show, not a csi procedure driven one. This is Nate playing Malcom Reynolds without a gun . . . using his charm as his only weapon.

Check that - This is exactly what I imagined Malcom Reynolds would have been like BEFORE the battle of Serenity.

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Whoah whoah whoah. Frank Castle is NOT Malcom Reynolds. The two charactes are very, very different. And the portrayel by Fillion is as well.
Of course there are a small portion of similarities, but that's totally due to the two characters being played by the same guy.

[gm_wil]

Whoah whoah whoah. Frank Castle is NOT Malcom Reynolds. The two charactes are very, very different. And the portrayel by Fillion is as well.
Of course there are a small portion of similarities, but that's totally due to the two characters being played by the same guy.

I agree it's not the Malcom Reynolds from the show . . . but I do think it's what Mal would have been like before the defeat in Serenity valley. (the way i look at the character) The light-hearted humor and quick wit of Mal came out in snippets in Firefly (yeah i know it's nate fillion coming through as himself but that IS part of each character) and last night we saw he def knows how to handle a gun. The times the camera focuses on him studying the detective when she says/does something honorable or tough is like a young Mal learning what a person needs to do when the time comes to it . . . I just see him as a Mal in training like a brash Han Solo before he experienced enough shit to harden him up and take some of the swagger out of his stride.

Either way, Castle is fun to watch.

(I keep waiting for a cameo by fellow Firefly actors too . . . even make a comment or gesture that a Firefly fan would recognize. Example: There is a precinct vrs precinct softball game where the detective has Castle be the captain and the actress who played Zoe is on the other team . . . so when they meet for the coin toss she looks at him and says, "So you're the Captain eh?" and after his crooked smile and curt nod he says, "That I am." A little exchange like that would def be a cool shout out.)

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[bjkrautk]

Whoah whoah whoah. Frank Castle is NOT Malcom Reynolds. The two charactes are very, very different. And the portrayel by Fillion is as well.
Of course there are a small portion of similarities, but that's totally due to the two characters being played by the same guy.

Richard Castle is the Writer;
Frank Castle is the Punisher.

Also, I'm still really enjoying the show.

[poltah]

Richard Castle is the Writer;
Frank Castle is the Punisher.

Also, I'm still really enjoying the show.

Hehe, that was a nice mistake to make.

I still disagree. I don't see Richard castle as religious as the soldier Reynolds. They're both funny, yes, but I still think they're completely different characters. I don't see Reynolds ever writing anything. I don't see Castle kill anyone coldblooded. I don't see Richard being a leader. Reynolds is dark. Richard Castle I don't think has it in him to become what Reynolds has the potiental to become. In good ways and in bad. I still think they're very different people. Both pre and post war.

[gm_wil]

I don't see Reynolds ever writing anything.

I swear Book looked at Mal while at the dinner table and asked, "If he minded if he said a prayer?" and Mal looked at him and said, "No, as long as it's not outloud" or something in that effect, then proceeded to shove an entire tomato slice into his mouth with a pair of chopsticks . . . and if I remember right Mal pretty much made it clear he didn't care for religion whatsoever . . . but I could be wrong - been awhile since I've been with the crew.

Oh, Mal wasn't a cold-blooded killer. He made it a point to make it clear to the doc if he was to kill him, the doc would be "armed and facing him." He DID kick a guy into the engine intake but I would too if he had kidnapped my crew and said he would kill me when he had the chance. I wouldn't call that cold-blooded . . . I'd call that preventive maintenance.

Either way, we are fans of both . . . so that's something we do agree on.

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[poltah]

I swear Book looked at Mal while at the dinner table and asked, "If he minded if he said a prayer?" and Mal looked at him and said, "No, as long as it's not outloud" or something in that effect, then proceeded to shove an entire tomato slice into his mouth with a pair of chopsticks . . . and if I remember right Mal pretty much made it clear he didn't care for religion whatsoever . . . but I could be wrong - been awhile since I've been with the crew.

Oh, Mal wasn't a cold-blooded killer. He made it a point to make it clear to the doc if he was to kill him, the doc would be "armed and facing him." He DID kick a guy into the engine intake but I would too if he had kidnapped my crew and said he would kill me when he had the chance. I wouldn't call that cold-blooded . . . I'd call that preventive maintenance.

Either way, we are fans of both . . . so that's something we do agree on.

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Mal is definitely religious. He lost his spiritual side, or at least hid it away, when he lost the war. It's pretty clear in the show.

And in Serenity Mal shoots like 5 unarmed men who's definitely not facing him ready for combat.

[icu]

Ok you Brown Coats - I really didn't have much of an interest in watching Castle till now ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q3pdj9p6yI

An obvious nod and perhaps suck-up/obvious viral attempt, but still RAD!!!! no?

[jivetrky]

Ok you Brown Coats - I really didn't have much of an interest in watching Castle till now ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q3pdj9p6yI

An obvious nod and perhaps suck-up/obvious viral attempt, but still RAD!!!! no?

OH MY FUCKING GOD! (Yes I spelled out the acronym)


I haven't yet watched that ep on my DVR. That is totally awesome; can't wait to watch it! Guess the housework will have to wait and I'll have to watch it now! :D (Yes, I'm a housewife....errr househusband)

[icu]

Yes, I'm a housewife....errr househusband)

You lucky bastard.

Maybe it's just how I'm feeling today and I know it is indeed work, but you lucky bastard.

[jivetrky]

Maybe it's just how I'm feeling today and I know it is indeed work, but you lucky bastard.

eh, overall I agree with you. It's much nicer to stay at home in your pajamas and hang out with the little ones watching TV and the like. But it's definitely some work, and I know this may be sexist, but it just doesn't seem like it's work that guys are really cut out for. It's so hard everyday to bring myself to washing dishes, washing clothes, cleaning, etc, etc. It kinda sucks. IDK, maybe it's the same way for normal housewives and they just get used to it, but I don't WANT to get used to it! :) MANY days I wish I was out working... (been laid off for a while now)




BTW, watched the episode and it was a pretty decent as usual Castle Episode. I loved the Mal costume in the beginning (most of which you see in the clip above.
After that he gets a call from Beckett and he meets her to look at a body, while still wearing the Mal costume. She says something about it but I was let down that she didn't make some direct or even indirect Firefly reference. They sometimes toy with her hidden "geek" side and I was hoping they would show that she KNEW as whom he was dressed.

[Bret]

i pretty much shit my pants when i watched the episode this morning.

[jivetrky]

i pretty much shit my pants when i watched the episode this morning.

Darn Flu!

[aerodash84]

Watching this week's episode now. Loved the Firefly moment.

[everybodystalking]

Did anyone else know there's an actual book, Heat Wave, out there for sale? I had no idea until I saw it out of the corner of my eye walking past a book store. Not a very big book to be sure, but still.

[gm_wil]

epic episode opening...

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[gm_wil]

best damn chemistry/tension since Mulder and Scully

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[jivetrky]

I agree! I love it and hate it at the same time. The teaser for the finale tomorrow looked like we could get some sexytime though! Or it could be clever teaser editing...

[darth-ed]

This show is so damn formulaic that I can barely stand watching it (9 times out of 10, I can predict the murderer within the first 10-15 minutes of the show), but I love Nathan Fillion, so I keep watching.

[gm_wil]

This show is so damn formulaic that I can barely stand watching it (9 times out of 10, I can predict the murderer within the first 10-15 minutes of the show), but I love Nathan Fillion, so I keep watching.

Same - I really wish we'd see more Esposito & Ryan because they are an awesome duo and just as fun to watch.

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[jivetrky]

This show is so damn formulaic that I can barely stand watching it (9 times out of 10, I can predict the murderer within the first 10-15 minutes of the show), but I love Nathan Fillion, so I keep watching.

This is true, but for some reason I still eat it up! :)

Is it Fillion's debonair charm or Katic's super spicyness?

[damnedeyez]

Is it Fillion's debonair charm or Katic's super spicyness?

Both, plus their chemistry. I remember commenting to someone last year that, I really couldn't picture anyone else pulling off Fillion's character.

[darth-ed]

I recently watched a behind-the-scenes video of the recent Castle TV Guide photoshoot, and I have to say I like Stana Katic's real-world personality way more than her character's always-too-serious persona on the TV show. That's often not the case with actors/actresses. (I'm looking at you, Gillian Anderson.)

Nathan Fillion, on the other hand, is almost exactly like Castle on the TV show, except nicer in person.

[gm_wil]

...and I have to say I like Stana Katic's real-world personality way more than her character's always-too-serious persona on the TV show.

Nathan Fillion, on the other hand, is almost exactly like Castle on the TV show, except nicer in person.

I bet it's a fun set to work on (even though I've never worked on a set before)

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[gm_wil]

Please tell me people are watching this show . . . the season finale was a jaw dropper . . .

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[damnedeyez]

Please tell me people are watching this show . . . the season finale was a jaw dropper . . .

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I believe the finale was the second most watched show that night (the show before it being the most watched).

13 million watched it, apparently.

[gm_wil]

13 million watched it, apparently.

suh-weet . . . it's safe for awhile then.

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[damnedeyez]

suh-weet . . . it's safe for awhile then.

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yeah, I didn't see it on any cancelled lists.

[gm_wil]

the bank robbing episode . . . I saw a little bit of Mal slip through his character . . .

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[rokov]

the bank robbing episode . . . I saw a little bit of Mal slip through his character . . .

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I noticed that too. When he was giving the speech to the guy who ended up having the seizure it definitely sounded like a scene from Firefly.

[gm_wil]

I noticed that too. When he was giving the speech to the guy who ended up having the seizure it definitely sounded like a scene from Firefly.

Yep, that's the one . . . a totally Malcolm Reynolds moment.

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