View Full Version : Kevin and Alex on Guns
mutez0r
10-10-2008, 03:32 PM
I knew that Kevin, as he mentioned in previous shows, used to go out in the desert when he was younger and shoot firearms.
I didn't know Alex was into guns until he mentioned getting a Ruger BlackHawk (.357 Magnum) for a gift. Also until the last episode where he mentioned playing with the Springfield XD and a Kimber (I forgot the model he said).
I think Alex should try more guns, as there are far more superior firearms than the XD. Like Kevin mentioned, the H&K USP. I suggest a CZ 75 or a SIG P226. If you're into single stack 1911, a Kimber would definitely be a good choice.
Anyone else that watches Diggnation and is a firearm enthusiast?
I own several. I doubt you'll find very many amongst this crowd though.
tokenuser
10-10-2008, 04:14 PM
I own several. I doubt you'll find very many amongst this crowd though.It might surprise you. I suspect you are equating "liberal" (like many here lean politically) with "gun control", without realising that gun control and gun banning are actually different issues.
Without any problems at all, I can point you to 5 people on the forums who are tree hugging hippies that have guns.
burkhartmj
10-10-2008, 05:37 PM
I'd have a few guns......if I had any money or time.
And I know you weren't attacking conservatives or anything token, I'd just like to point out that most [aside from the most insanely right-wing] are fine with gun regulation and gun control. It shouldn't be easy to get a gun, just realistically feasible for any law-abiding citizen [in other words not so ridiculously hard to get a gun that most people would give up].
radzack
10-10-2008, 07:27 PM
I'd trust a current day "hippie" with a gun before I'd trust some of those people at McCain/Palin rallies.
I'd trust a current day "hippie" with a gun before I'd trust some of those people at McCain/Palin rallies.
You have my pity for being so blind.
Do not mistake righteous indignation with blind rage. Most of those people are probably armed and you have nothing to fear from them.
It's funny that the people that are most likely to break windows and flip cars were protesting republicans at their convention.
tokenuser
10-10-2008, 08:09 PM
Do not mistake righteous indignation with blind rage. Most of those people are probably armed and you have nothing to fear from them.Unless you have a difference of opinion.
Yeah in your mind. That is not appropriate criteria for shooting someone. It's sufficent for being ignored but not shot. Breaking my stuff or attempting to set my car on fire is though.
tokenuser
10-10-2008, 08:33 PM
Yeah in your mind. That is not appropriate criteria for shooting someone. It's sufficent for being ignored but not shot. Breaking my stuff or attempting to set my car on fire is though.Believe what you will.
I was sitting in a bar in San Antonio late last year, and two guys were getting into an argument over the football. The arguement was getting heated, and stopped when one of the guy pulled back his jacket and showed the other guy a holstered pistol. Yeah - great way to settle an argument. "I'm right, or I reserve the right to protect my opinion and shoot you". I was within earshot of the entire thing, and it was just football they were talking about.
I'd hate to see what happened if it was about birth control, gay marriage, or evolution.
xfuuey
10-10-2008, 08:34 PM
I also have 2 big guns.
:::kisses each arm::::
hah! :D
I saw two guys get mad enough to fight and they put their guns in their trucks fought it out and both walked away bruised but alive.
Two stories two different outcomes both equally ignorant in their use of force to settle a matter of opinion. You have a preconceived notion and could be making up a story to fit that notion. But I've seen video tape of protesters much more in common with democrats vandalize property and disrupt a city just because they didn't agree.
tokenuser
10-10-2008, 09:04 PM
But I've seen video tape of protesters much more in common with democrats vandalize property and disrupt a city just because they didn't agree.I've seen video tape of people rioting through the streets because their basketball team WON.
Yeah - Democrats all have a habit of destroying property when they don't get their way :rolleyes:
BTW - I could be making up the story. You would never know. You weren't there (were you?), but it was a bar between the river walk and the mercado <?> late on a Saturday afternoon. It was raining outside, and wife and I stopped in to get a drink and wait for the rain to clear up.
Thanks for confirming the association of the vandals.
Let me throw an edit in here since they seem so popular.
I saw Houston Rockets win the championship 2 times the fans never rioted. I wonder what the differences are between here and there.
mutez0r
10-11-2008, 05:44 PM
Wow. I meant for this to be a discussion of firearms and it turned into a political rant thread.
For fucks sake.
phatlip12
10-11-2008, 05:46 PM
Yeah in your mind. That is not appropriate criteria for shooting someone. It's sufficent for being ignored but not shot. Breaking my stuff or attempting to set my car on fire is though.
If you shoot a person because they destruct your property guess who's going to jail? Both of you.
masherscf
10-11-2008, 05:58 PM
I own several. I doubt you'll find very many amongst this crowd though.
I own guns. I support the right to own guns. I enjoy shooting guns. You really need to check the prejudiced attitude at the door.
heyseuss
10-11-2008, 11:47 PM
BTW - I could be making up the story. You would never know. You weren't there (were you?), but it was a bar between the river walk and the mercado <?> late on a Saturday afternoon. It was raining outside, and wife and I stopped in to get a drink and wait for the rain to clear up.
I had a woman try and perform a lewd act on me on one of those riverwalk gondolas.
If you shoot a person because they destruct your property guess who's going to jail? Both of you.
You would be incorrect. Defense of property as well as self or others is allowed. I don't live in the UK so I don't have to worry about how the thief feels.
I own guns. I support the right to own guns. I enjoy shooting guns. You really need to check the prejudiced attitude at the door.
I would like you to read what I said again. Being as this is the Diggnation board and it being about the Digg website since Digg is a worldwide audience primarily left in its coverage. I believe it's pretty safe to assume most of them don't own guns.
But good for you, exercise that right.
phatlip12
10-12-2008, 06:10 AM
You would be incorrect. Defense of property as well as self or others is allowed. I don't live in the UK so I don't have to worry about how the thief feels.
Defense of property? Yes. By lethal force? No.
I know its not the best source, but in reference to property defense Wikipedia states:
Courts have generally ruled that the use of force may be acceptable, but that lethal force is generally not acceptable in defending property, although it may be acceptable in self defense or, in some countries, the defense of one's home. As deadly force is not allowed, the setting of booby-traps and the use of dangerous guard dogs is also either not allowed or only allowed on strict terms such as the prominent display of warning notices.You know, for being such a strong supporter of a persons right to bare arms I really expect you to have a better understanding of gun laws. People like yourself make fellow gun owners look bad.
If you were to shoot a vandal you would probably be sent to jail and lefties wishing to push a ban on guns would use you as an example.
Wikipedia...heh...don't quote that shit when you come to Texas. In Texas it is within the law, I know, I have a conceal-n-carry.
I just wish you would read more thoroughly, property as in my property is something I can use my gun to stop damage on. Vandalism of someone else's property gets alittle more sticky. But a grand jury refused to indict a neighbor for shooting two thieves in Pasadena, TX recently so it might go well if you're defending a neighbor's property.
phatlip12
10-12-2008, 06:52 AM
Wikipedia...heh...don't quote that shit when you come to Texas .
Is that part of a Toby Keith song?
:rolleyes:
Is that part of a Toby Keith song?
Is that that best you can do? That comment couldn't be more pedestrian if it walked down the street. I like it when people think that individuals that don't think as you do are hicks or rednecks. Truly the ignorance is on one side if that is how you're perceiving this.
Force is authorized in various situations but deadly force is limited. It revolves around fear for yourself and others. Carjacking is sudden and violent, shooting the crook doesn't get you in trouble. Someone stealing your stuff, you can use a gun to stop them if they flee no problem, if they come toward you different story. Situations dictate the actions and any questions are left to the DA and a grand jury. At the end of the day it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
phatlip12
10-12-2008, 07:27 AM
Is that that best you can do? That comment couldn't be more pedestrian if it walked down the street. I like it when people think that individuals that don't think as you do are hicks or rednecks. Truly the ignorance is on one side if that is how you're perceiving this.
Force is authorized in various situations but deadly force is limited. It revolves around fear for yourself and others. Carjacking is sudden and violent, shooting the crook doesn't get you in trouble. Someone stealing your stuff, you can use a gun to stop them if they flee no problem, if they come toward you different story. Situations dictate the actions and any questions are left to the DA and a grand jury. At the end of the day it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Isn't that Toby Keith in your avatar? That's why I made the comment. It was a joke.
Paranoid much?
No cowboy hat or big truck in the background, so out couldn't be a country singer could it. It's worse than you think actually cause it places your geek cred in jeopardy. That's Zaphod from the movie version of HHGTTG.
tokenuser
10-12-2008, 02:15 PM
I would like you to read what I said again. Being as this is the Diggnation board and it being about the Digg website since Digg is a worldwide audience primarily left in its coverage. I believe it's pretty safe to assume most of them don't own guns.These are the Revision3 forums. This forum in particualr is to discuss the the Diggnation Show. The fact that the content is sourced from Digg, and that Kevin one of the big cheeses over there is the only connection with Digg that this forum has.
You'll notice that the overlap between commentors over there and members of these forums is pretty small. I have a digg acocunt, have had since before it went public, but its a site I rarely visit these days. The Ron Paul political spam and Alex Jones (Prison Planet/Infowars/Loose Change) conspiracy theorist crowd pissed me off too much.
You probably are safe to assume they don't own guns (well except the Alex Jones crowd ... they have been stockpiling them for several years in their bunkers in the Ozarks).
But, as I mentioned, that is Digg, not here - and one of the 5 who probably surprised you by saying they own guns has already fessed up to it. 4 more to go :) (but I am not going to out them).
tokenuser
10-12-2008, 02:17 PM
No cowboy hat or big truck in the background, so out couldn't be a country singer could it. It's worse than you think actually cause it places your geek cred in jeopardy. That's Zaphod from the movie version of HHGTTG.I think it puts your geek cred into question, because you chose that version and not this one:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/72/Mark_Wing-Davey_as_Zaphod_Beeblebrox.jpg/240px-Mark_Wing-Davey_as_Zaphod_Beeblebrox.jpg
masherscf
10-12-2008, 03:11 PM
Wikipedia...heh...don't quote that shit when you come to Texas. In Texas it is within the law, I know, I have a conceal-n-carry.
In Vermont, you can carry, loaded and concealed, with out permit.
ariastar
10-12-2008, 06:42 PM
http://threadbombing.com/data/media/3/2nd-amendment-christmas.jpg
I think it puts your geek cred into question, because you chose that version and not this one:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/72/Mark_Wing-Davey_as_Zaphod_Beeblebrox.jpg/240px-Mark_Wing-Davey_as_Zaphod_Beeblebrox.jpg
That would be an incorrect assumption as this avatar is far superior in cool than that thing. That Zaphod was pretty poor but decent for the time period it was shot in. I own a copy as it's still funny but because of the content and animations not so much the look of the actors. I like the original Arthur Dent and the new Zaphod to be exact. Sam Rockwell definitely captured Zaphod's coolness factor. Of course this is all a matter of opinion.
Of course this is about parsing words with token. I said "many" and never an actual number which allows me a great deal of latitude in my numbers. It's refreshing to see that there could be common areas of interest instead of arguing. The pessimist in me is pleasantly surprised by the amount of ownership showed so far.
tokenuser
10-13-2008, 02:54 AM
Sam Rockwell definitely captured Zaphod's coolness factor. Of course this is all a matter of opinion.No argument on Sam being the cooler Zaphod ... Marvin was pretty cool as well ... but the problem is the association with the H2G2 movie. What a steaming pile of crap that was.
Radio series - awesome.
Books - great.
Original TV series - terrific.
Movie - well ... I'd rather listen to Vogon Poetry.