Best way to PWN someone stealing your WIFI?

[spinkman]

What are your favorites?

[masherscf]

Turn off the router?

I guess I'm not that creative when It comes to PWNING.

[tokenuser]

http://lifehacker.com/software/wifi/turn-your-wifi-piggybackers-internet-upside-down-190441.php

[davmoo]

What are your favorites?

Um...set up security on my router?

I guess I just have better things to do with my time than figure out how to seek revenge.

[computoman]

Maybe setting up a honeypot could be a project for hak.5

[bani-banan]

Turn on WPA/WPA2 with a strong encryption? :)

[tokenuser]

OK, you've screwed with your leeching neighbors, and turned the router into a honeypot.

Now what? What are you going to do with the IP addresses from the honey pot? Turn them over tot he Feds? Leaving an AP unsecured is considered like leaving a welcome mat at an open front door - an invitation.

Noone cares. Turn on security and it wont be an issue. If you were running with security turned off, you get what you asked for.

[masherscf]

Noone cares. Turn on security and it wont be an issue. If you were running with security turned off, you get what you asked for.

That, and, as long as they're not trying to hack you or run 24-hour bittorrent or anything else that will piss of your ISP. Who the heck cares if they "steal" your wifi. If you're not using it and they aren't assholes about it, share it baby.

[android-skin]

Pick a better password. Remember that letmein is a very common password and should not be used. Be aware, however, internet wizards can use highly advanced cracking devices to crack the toughest of passwords, even ones with numbers.

BTW, I entered this thread thinking PWN meant pretty women naked. I don't understand some of the abbreviations people use on the internet. I wish people knew the pain I had in deciphering them all.

[davmoo]

And remember, if you do something to them or their machine to retaliate, you very well may have just violated more laws by entering their machine than they did by leaching your wifi. Some prosecutors take a real dim view of that sort of thing.

[critter]

And remember, if you do something to them or their machine to retaliate, you very well may have just violated more laws by entering their machine than they did by leaching your wifi. Some prosecutors take a real dim view of that sort of thing.

A few years back we leached Wifi as there was no affordable air cards. (Now I have one.)

Anyway my co-worker always jacked a linksys as pw was always admin. Well he found 25 gig of child porn on the persons drive. I think it got deleted, but what would Federal Law do to one that deleted such?

I would venture to say lock up both parties.

[davmoo]

A few years back we leached Wifi as there was no affordable air cards. (Now I have one.)

I have a cellular card for my laptop. But there are still times its easier to just leach a little wifi. If I sat here and said "I never do that" lightning would immediately strike my house :o

I would venture to say lock up both parties.

While I certainly understand the desire to do something in situations where one discovers stuff like that, at the same time, at least in my opinion, its like calling the police and reporting "I broke in to this dude's house, and while I was there I found a huge stash of weed!!"

[spinkman]

There you go Darren.
A segment on how to setup the Upside-Down-Ternet.
couldn't you put that into the pineapple?

[tokenuser]

I have a cellular card for my laptop. But there are still times its easier to just leach a little wifi. If I sat here and said "I never do that" lightning would immediately strike my house :oI use my Crackberry as an EVDO modem (unlimited data - near DSL speeds), but there are times when WiFi is more convenient ... so sure, I'll leech ... but I wont break in to do it (despite having the tools sitting on a bootable USB drive to do it - Back Track Linux is amazing). If someone is going to leave their access open, its an invitation.

I work from home, and my neighbors and I each have public sections of our Wifi open - so if my cable modem goes down, I jump on my neighbors DSL connection ... and vice versa. We back each other up.

[metatr0n]

One word evilgrade.

[davmoo]

I work from home, and my neighbors and I each have public sections of our Wifi open

The one disadvantage, as far as wifi goes, of living out in the country is that my neighbors and I live too far apart to share wifi without going to outdoor shotgun antennas or something of that nature. But at the same time it does have the advantage that if you're going to leach our wifi, you almost have to be sitting on our property, where you'll be spotted, to do it.

[que999]

he is right
it is not sharing internet it is stealing
and if he let them 24/7 on his wifi
they will get idea
in how to spy on him
stell his cridet card numbers
& spy in his personal stuff
or how to hijack the modem
it well get ugly trust me
i had this problem in first sharing internet
& now i have a hijacked adsl modem router & 3 new pc laptop that corrupt
(1st one motherbord corrupt 2nd hdd corrupt 3rd cd drive not working)
and now i want to buy a new one the can't hijack
but couldn't find any
they all the same firmware depending on linux

the best thing is to turn wifi off & connect your computers by Ethernet
& turn wifi on when you need it with wpa/wpa2 long password protected
& when you finish do not forget to turn wifi off
& if you don't need the router all the time turn it off
when you don't use internet or the network

[samureye]

Pick a better password. Remember that letmein is a very common password and should not be used. Be aware, however, internet wizards can use highly advanced cracking devices to crack the toughest of passwords, even ones with numbers.

BTW, I entered this thread thinking PWN meant pretty women naked. I don't understand some of the abbreviations people use on the internet. I wish people knew the pain I had in deciphering them all.

BTW AFAIK BBQ should BRB in AIM or IDK maybe it should BBL IMO, LOL?

[alaskalonewolf]

It is a TLA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-letter_acronym), typically "pwn" is actually a misspelling of "own", since the 'P' and the 'O'
share a realitive proximity on the keyboard, because a person is
typically in too big a hurry "pwn"ing the object person, as in to "own"
them. See Also: to own (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery), to own (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution) my b!tch, to run (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment) sh!t,

Additional References:

http://www.all-acronyms.com/cat/1/PWN
http://www.tla.org/tla.html
http://www.kendrick.org/tla/browse.aspx

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Pwn
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/langtla.mspx
http://www.computer-dictionary-online.org/PVM.htm?q=PVM
http://www.acronymslist.com/cat/chatting-acronyms.html
http://www.acronymslist.com/cat/us-army-acronyms-(official).html

[phil-mize]

ummm i wouldnt exactly call it hacking but both my neighbors on either side of me had unsecured wireless and both kept hassling me about using their internets even though they were both using each others connections and i was on my own. they thought cause im an IT guy i was stealing their stuff im like well why dont u secure it!? "o that costs money that cost money i dont want that!" lol finally i got sick of it and locked both them out of their routers and when they came a calling i charged them each 50 bucks to "fix" it.

am i evil?

fucking assholes... :mad:

[davmoo]

They may be assholes, but in a number of places your actions would have got you at least a night or two in jail. And hopefully neither of them will take you to small claims court.

[phil-mize]

meh theres no record of them ever paying me and they have no idea about it anyways... it would be their word against mine and that wouldnt get anywhere in court

[chrisisageek]

They may be assholes, but in a number of places your actions would have got you at least a night or two in jail. And hopefully neither of them will take you to small claims court.

Then I won't tell you what I've done in the past for free Wi-Fi. Or what I've done to neighbors' access points out of pure boredom. O_o

[maxhdrm]

And remember, if you do something to them or their machine to retaliate, you very well may have just violated more laws by entering their machine than they did by leaching your wifi. Some prosecutors take a real dim view of that sort of thing.
There are effective ways of Pwning someone when they attempt to hijack your signal that only pertains to YOUR system such as was illustrated by someone in a DIGG story and shown on Diggnation. i.e. fake IP's that are locked down and are redirected to the same website.

But honestly if you are that stupid NOT to lock your wifi down in today's technological push of a society then you deserve to have it hijacked. Why would anyone with any lick of common sense leave it wide open especially if you shop online. As Davmoo pointed out, there are no clear laws that state hijacking anyone's wifi is illegal (as of yet) but retrobution to someone elses physically property IS.

Everyone here should be a little more cautious considering the information that the HAK team has supplied us with on how to "sniff" or "trace" those who are.

[computoman]

Just because you leave your frontdoor unlocked does not mean you deserved to be robbed. That is not what a reasonable man would do. Just report the offender to the fcc. Let someone else be the bad guy. Anyway, What I do is set up a dummy wifi and honeypot computer without out a real connection to the internet to collect all the information I can about the offender. I have set up dummy web pages for the most common sites and a dummy host file to go to those pages. if they try to go anywhere else they get shown you have illegaly entered the particular internet page and instructed that the authories are coming to confiscate their equipment for investigative purposes, That usually stops them unless they are real jerks.

[davmoo]

But honestly if you are that stupid NOT to lock your wifi down

But honestly you are apparently stupid enough to believe that the only reason anyone does not lock down their wifi is because they are stupid. Mine is unlocked because I have very specific needs and reasons for wanting it that way.

As computoman says, just because my back door is unlocked does not give you the automatic right to enter my house.

[phil-mize]

Just because you leave your frontdoor unlocked does not mean you deserved to be robbed. That is not what a reasonable man would do. Just report the offender to the fcc. Let someone else be the bad guy. Anyway, What I do is set up a dummy wifi and honeypot computer without out a real connection to the internet to collect all the information I can about the offender. I have set up dummy web pages for the most common sites and a dummy host file to go to those pages. if they try to go anywhere else they get shown you have illegaly entered the particular internet page and instructed that the authories are coming to confiscate their equipment for investigative purposes, That usually stops them unless they are real jerks.

Do you live in the city or something? Is that really necessary? I live in suburbia and i highly doubt anybody will drive house to house cracking wifi... and even if they did its not like they will be there a long enough time for me to gather tons of info on them to do anything about it... but that's my situation maybe in apartments and city condos en such its different...

especially when theres places downtown en such with free wifi available

[computoman]

Everywhere there are those who wish to have things that are free or be electronic peeping toms. Looking in someone's window without permission is pretty much the same thing as trying to hack someone's wifi. They are both jerks. Once you think you are safe, you are not. It is a shame that so much vigilance is required. It did not used to be that way.

Everyone should applaud computer user groups that set up controlled environments for people to practice testing security of wifi or otherwise so that innocent persons are not violated. Besides there is always someone better at hacking than you are. Kind of like the old west with the young punks who thought they had the fastest gun. Please practice safe sex and safe computing.

[phil-mize]

Please practice safe sex and safe computing.

What happens when your virus protection breaks and a little virus gets in?

do u have to viset ur local linux live disc to backup ur data and "reformat" your hdd?;)


too far?:D

[computoman]

We let go of Microsoft three years ago, so we we use only XWindows to begin with. Of several live cds, I do have a live cd called trinity rescue kit (aka trk) to help people who do get a virus on their computers.

Linux or BSD runs on our:
desktops
laptops
servers
routers
network appliances
media centers (and players)
game machines
etc.

[phil-mize]

lol i think u missed the sarcasm in my last statement... i was refering to a little virus being well umm your little troopers in well um a womens vaginal cavity... and the linux live disc being a abortion clinic...

kinda a stretch i know:D

[computoman]

I heard where you are coming from, but this is not really a laughing matter. I remember when people would joke about airplanes crashing into buildings. Do they do it now? I use to have a boss from the middle east who would joke about bombs being in cars, He would only do it when no one else was listening so he could deny it later. I wished i would of had a tape recorder at times. He was a jerk anyway.

[tymac94]

You could airpwn them.

[computoman]

Very interesting.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=airpwn&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

[korblitz]

^You just made my day,sir. My tip of the hat to you.