Veronica: Shame on you

[theepicmoool]

When referring in to the Senheiser PX 100 headphones Veronica called them "Pretty Crappy" Shame! http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/earpad/sennheiser-px-100.php

[ArmpitOfDeath]

It depends on how you use them I guess. If you're travelling and compare them to something with isolation, then I guess they are pretty crappy.

I think these are really cleverly designed (even several years after their introduction they have yet to be beaten by anyone else for the ease of folding / unfolding), very handy phones but I think the PX100 is overrated by 'headphonophiles'.

[theepicmoool]

It depends on how you use them I guess. If you're travelling and compare them to something with isolation, then I guess they are pretty crappy.

I think these are really cleverly designed (even several years after their introduction they have yet to be beaten by anyone else for the ease of folding / unfolding), very handy phones but I think the PX100 is overrated by 'headphonophiles'.

Disagree
I own the PX100 and i can tell you they are a royal PITA to fold up, its cumbersome and takes 30 secs to a minute. My friend bought some new large Sony headphones recently and when testing both his paled in comparison. Despite the crappy noise canceling the PX100's were still able to crank out FAR more DB then the Sony's with far superior quality (IMHO).

Regardless of bickering between audiophiles these are undoubtedly "nice" headphones by anyone's standards for A. Value for dollar and B. In comparison to stock iPod headphones/department store crap.

P.S. The sock mod could probably fix that isolation problem

[ArmpitOfDeath]

The PX100's have no 'noise cancelling'. That is part of the problem if you're used to even cheap IEM's, and you've been used to actually being able to hear the music instead of choosing open phones for portable use and electing to drown out the background noise like an idiot (That's you too, smug Grado users).

And talking about drowning out background noises like an idiot, the reason why the PX100 was louder than your friends' Sony (whatever it was) is that the Senn happened to be more efficient. You can buy more efficient phones than the PX100, and actual isolation will also make even less efficient phones sound clearer to you in a portable situation.

P.S. No.

[tokenuser]

My wife has a pair of Sennheiser PX250 she uses when travelling and listening to music in her office. I use a pair of in-ear Sony noise cancelling headphones (whose model number escapes me).

Different strokes for different folks. She doesn't like in ear, I dont like ear pads. Both sounds good. Both cancel noise.

[ArmpitOfDeath]

Not a huge fan of compact active cancelling phones like the PXC250 myself. The battery compartment is a pain - and the cancellation is only truly effective (and this goes for the Sony too) in the engine drone bands, but voice, etc will be at the mercy of the mechanical acoustic isolation that the phone / buds provide - which is not much.

There are phones like the Bose Quietcomforts which provide good active cancellation along with half-decent passive isolation, but these days with the plethora of highly passively isolating earbuds I'd rather (and I do, ended up going for custom moulding for my travelling buds, and picked up a pair of Shure SE530's for commutes) go for them instead for travelling. I dunno what Veronica has, but I'm betting it'll probably be a Shure, Etymotic, Ultimate Ears or some such.

[theepicmoool]

Totally missed the point. The reviewers say (and i confirm) that in proper conditions they sound AMAZING (at least for what you are paying for them) especially when coming off some earbuds. All audiophile arguments aside they are hardly "crappy" headphones

[tokenuser]

Not a huge fan of compact active cancelling phones like the PXC250 myself. The battery compartment is a pain - and the cancellation is only truly effective (and this goes for the Sony too) in the engine drone bands, but voice, etc will be at the mercy of the mechanical acoustic isolation that the phone / buds provide - which is not much.All very true ... except that the band of noise isolation for engine noise on an aircraft all removes ambient background noise in an office setting. The sound of someones voice is less of a distraction because I focus on the vocals and the music - foreground noise being dominant.

I like the earbud. Mine are a near perfect fit for me. Not custom molded, but at least as good as the ones I used to use in an industrial setting (steel mill). I like the added layer of sound isolation that they provide.

[ArmpitOfDeath]

Totally missed the point. The reviewers say (and i confirm) that in proper conditions they sound AMAZING (at least for what you are paying for them) especially when coming off some earbuds. All audiophile arguments aside they are hardly "crappy" headphones

I wouldn't call your mom's dead-silent basement 'proper conditions'. I do agree they would sound very nice for the money in there though.

All very true ... except that the band of noise isolation for engine noise on an aircraft all removes ambient background noise in an office setting. The sound of someones voice is less of a distraction because I focus on the vocals and the music - foreground noise being dominant.

I know drone-band cancellation works great in an office: You can still hear everyone but the low-level background goes away, and it's staggeringly effective if you have anything to do with air-con near you. I thought however your wife used it for travelling? That's a whole different kettle of fish.

[fishtoprecords]

Amazingly misleading and over hyped thread title.

[theepicmoool]

Noise canceling is overrated. Its all fine and good till you get hit by a bus.

[ArmpitOfDeath]

Amazingly misleading and over hyped thread title.

I concur. Especially when the poster hasn't got the relevant experience to comment.

[darknessgp]

Noise canceling is overrated. Its all fine and good till you get hit by a bus.

that's why you have eyes... people that just walk in front of buses without checking first deserve to get hit.

[veronicazilla]

I concur. Especially when the poster hasn't got the relevant experience to comment.

Personal experience is as good as any.

However, that being said, I can't deal with headphones like that! They drive me nuts. But maybe I take too much loud public transportation.

[fishtoprecords]

But maybe I take too much loud public transportation.

What? You don't constantly move via limo? Or your own Maybach ?

My favorite transportation is the last row of an MD-80 plane, right between the two jet engines.

[ArmpitOfDeath]

Personal experience is as good as any.

Unless it has no relative context. It applies to anything and I think it's a major failing of crowdsourcing reviews.

Admittedly, softly-softly diplomacy was never my strong suit.

What? You don't constantly move via limo? Or your own Maybach ?

My favorite transportation is the last row of an MD-80 plane, right between the two jet engines.

They do say in terms of survivable crashes, people in the back stand the most chance of getting out alive. Having been in probably an atypically large number of plane / helicopter mishaps, I do take the emergency card quite seriously. As George Carlin said in a skit, I also make plans: "...step on that kid, use that fat lady as a trampoline to get over that row, push that tall guy over so I can surf over to the exit..."

[davmoo]

Folks, headphones are like religion...a lot of it is personal opinion, and there is no "right" or "wrong" for everyone.

I've tried *lots* of headphones over the years, including sets with price tags in the hundreds. And my favorite pair is a set of Sony's that I have used so much I've worn the model number off of them. I paid about $30 for them 12 years ago. You can throw lab tests and reviews at me until you're blue in the face and your arms go numb, and I'll still prefer that set.

[tokenuser]

They do say in terms of survivable crashes, people in the back stand the most chance of getting out alive. Totally true ... when was the last time you heard of a plane backing into a mountain?