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tokenuser
12-03-2008, 11:26 AM
Its an odd question but "grey Armani single breasted with a red or blue tie" is not exactly a military uniform.

comhcinc
12-03-2008, 11:28 AM
no he does not.

masherscf
12-03-2008, 11:36 AM
In this country, the commander-in-chief is not a military position.

secret-steve-crumbles
12-03-2008, 12:31 PM
........misread what you said.

bigshotprof
12-03-2008, 03:40 PM
The President used to until the Surgeon General Stole it.
http://flickr.com/photos/17736029@N08/1844770490

tokenuser
12-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Surgeon General (acting) is actually a military posting, currently overseen by Rear Admiral Steven K. Galson, M.D., M.P.H.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/images_sg/galson.jpg

So, he gets a military uniform.

I was wondering if BO, might like to try one of MJ's uniforms.

http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/music_images/Michael_Jackson_Ronald_and_Nancy_Reagan.jpg

I know he tried to convince Ronnie that it was the thing to do, but maybe Barry will be more open to it. Will certainly add street cred at official functions.

alaskalonewolf
12-03-2008, 03:58 PM
...only when he's grandstanding for the media after "accomplishing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Accomplished)" the mission:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/images/20030501-15_d050103-2-664v.jpg

...I really, really, really, really, wish I could get away with the same sh!t and still get to wear a flightsuit on a whim.
(For Windows users, right-click on image, select "properties", and you'll notice this was a 'press' release by Bush)

skyz
12-03-2008, 04:08 PM
i think if the president had ever served in the military he could wear his uniform due him to his rank in whichever branch he served

i guess other than that the presidents gets to dress up in whatever uniform the group he is grandstanding with wears

tokenuser
12-03-2008, 04:13 PM
...I really, really, really, really, wish I could get away with the same sh!t and still get to wear a flightsuit on a whim.
(For Windows users, right-click on image, select "properties", and you'll notice this was a 'press' release by Bush)Actually, despite the grandstanding, he was a First Lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard, and was qualified to fly fighter jets, but never saw combat, so I guess he can get away with it.

tokenuser
12-03-2008, 04:18 PM
i think if the president had ever served in the military he could wear his uniform due him to his rank in whichever branch he served

i guess other than that the presidents gets to dress up in whatever uniform the group he is grandstanding with wearsI'd agree with that, except as President and Commander in Chief, he does outrank anyone else, so taking the First Lieutenant GWB example does he defer orders to his commanding officer, who ultimately takes orders from the CiC?

The uniform question for a president is a little odd, and I know that the Prime Minister of Australia does not have a military rank/uniform, but the Queen and her representative (the Governor General) do.

masherscf
12-03-2008, 04:35 PM
i think if the president had ever served in the military he could wear his uniform due him to his rank in whichever branch he served

i guess other than that the presidents gets to dress up in whatever uniform the group he is grandstanding with wears

I think the uniform code prohibits people wearing a uniform who are not active accept on certain occasions. Active military people are barred from politics. For example, Wesley Clarke had to be retired before running for office. Indeed, there have been cases in the past where people who are in the active military have been asked to remove their uniforms before speaking at political events.

alaskalonewolf
12-03-2008, 04:40 PM
I think the record (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Accept ance_into_the_National_Guard) speaks for itself. I wouldn't let him fly my plane.
The only uniform he's qualified to wear is that of a cadet:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/23960/thumbs/s-BUSH-CHEST-SLAM-large.jpg
Caption: "Yeah, it looks like it will fit."

...and the reason he doesn't get a REAL (http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/a/uniformwear.htm) uniform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_uniform#Distinctive_clothing)
is because he is employed by the citizens
of the United States of America... and we
already have made (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers#United_States:_three_branches ) laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers_under_the_United_States_Const itution#Executive_power) about that. We are not
a military/dictatorship despite what you may
have heard elsewhere...

Mr. Bush bended the rules, more often than not,
to "suit" himself on plenty occasions when the
mood struck him to do so, in my opinion. I'll be
glad when he's finally packed up all of his clothes
and goes back to the ranch where he can wear
that white (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Old_West#Cowboys) cowboy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Diplomacy) hat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy#Symbolism) where no one will laugh at him.

skyz
12-03-2008, 05:36 PM
I think the uniform code prohibits people wearing a uniform who are not active accept on certain occasions. Active military people are barred from politics. For example, Wesley Clarke had to be retired before running for office. Indeed, there have been cases in the past where people who are in the active military have been asked to remove their uniforms before speaking at political events.

i did not now that

my first bf father was a general in i think the airforce

his son was very well brought up :)

(can you imagine a general for a father)

alaskalonewolf
12-03-2008, 06:12 PM
Can you imagine a President for a father?

http://ciderpresshill.com/images/uploads/bush_family.jpg

...and a grandfather? Quite the "boots to fill" sotospeak...
Make sure you don't forget to check out those nifty boots:

http://www.ccadp.org/BUSH-Boots3.jpg

tokenuser
12-03-2008, 07:28 PM
...and a grandfather? Quite the "boots to fill" sotospeak...
Make sure you don't forget to check out those nifty boots:Living up to the grandfather might be a challenge, living up to the father/uncle is only a challenge if you dont have access to the family trust account.

BTW - GWB got the boots, but GHWB got the underoos and matching cape.

alaskalonewolf
12-03-2008, 07:41 PM
I had a really awesome pic someone put up of
the Prez in a cape, but they got chicken and
took it down. Oh well. Sometimes political humor
goes over the top... maybe it's better that way.

bigshotprof
12-03-2008, 08:05 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e100/bigshotprof/General%20Media/REDBOOTSscarytimes.jpg

Laura's boots don't show under her long dress.

skyz
12-03-2008, 08:58 PM
I'd agree with that, except as President and Commander in Chief, he does outrank anyone else, so taking the First Lieutenant GWB example does he defer orders to his commanding officer, who ultimately takes orders from the CiC?



i guess he would get an automatic promotion

i guess this is a deep matter of protocol :D

alaskalonewolf
12-03-2008, 11:28 PM
Laura's boots don't show under her long dress.
You know, come to think of it, she hasn't been around much lately.
Hope she's okay, all the stress has got to be rough. I mean, that's
got to be the second toughest job in the world... for sure. And I say,
hey, if she can pull off wearing the sexy boots, hell yeah sistah.
That's why they call you the "first" lady. Sometimes I found
myself wishing that she was running things more than Jr.

masherscf
12-03-2008, 11:45 PM
The fat kid with the pink bow-tie is all "Can I be President too!"

alaskalonewolf
12-04-2008, 12:57 AM
You got to wonder what toll that this sorted ordeal has
had on their entire family. I mean, in a lot of ways it is
no small representation of what happened to us all.
I wonder if he'd do it all again if offered a choice...
Knowing full well there are going to be many more
members of the Bush family in politics for years to
come. It's sorta a picture of royalty in a way.

tokenuser
12-04-2008, 03:33 AM
You know, come to think of it, she hasn't been around much lately.She's been down at the local Whole Foods scrounging fruit boxes for packing. They live in a big house, so she has lots of packing to do, and will need lots of boxes. No wonder she hasn't been seen.

bigshotprof
12-04-2008, 12:07 PM
Seriously, though, she put up with the booze and the drugs and the womanizing and the haughty mother-in-law. Now the ride is over. 10 to 1 she's holed up at Raoul Felder's office about now.

skyz
12-04-2008, 12:24 PM
Seriously, though, she put up with the booze and the drugs and the womanizing and the haughty mother-in-law. Now the ride is over. 10 to 1 she's holed up at Raoul Felder's office about now.

i think laura is a lovely woman a bit old fashioned but well she came from a different generation

it is only because of her that i figure there must be something to love in gwb

if only he had stayed out of politics and failed in business instead

masherscf
12-04-2008, 12:28 PM
it is only because of her that i figure there must be something to love in gwb


If it wasn't for Laura, GWB would be the retarded brother of Jeb Bush foundly remembered along with Billy Carter and Roger Clinton.

alaskalonewolf
12-04-2008, 05:36 PM
I really would like for her to write a book. I would buy that one for sure.