Rev3 Store Shirt Brand?

[wkdadam]

What company makes the shirts in the Revision3 store? I've looked at the help section of the store and searched on the forums a bit but I can't really find any info about it.

Anyone who has a shirt care to check out their tag real quick and let me know please?

I really hope it's American Apparel. Their shirts are so soft and they fit me so much better than Gildan or others that I've tried.

[alaskalonewolf]

That's a damn good question.

[xibalba]

The one I got says Jinx but of corse it is a Diggnation shirt. Could just be leftover stock and future shirts could be something else.

[alaskalonewolf]

Jinx has got the shnizzle when it comes to proper swag.
I just wish the people at R3 would get together with a
major clothing retailer and distribute the goodies to the
masses who don't want to send out their credit card info
over an internet connection. And, as a sidenote, it would
also be nice if they came out with a clothing line, that
goes beyond just tee-shirts. Something along the lines of
Old Navy meets the Hacker Paramilitary, in a semi-urban
design with lots of cargo pockets for gear, and a cool,
albeit smaller streamlined logo. Maybe a coat and some
warmer clothes for us northern folks. If they really wanted
to get crazy, do some undies and a swimsuit or two.

[heyseuss]

The brand is C&O. Cheap and Overpriced. I've never seen the store til now. This thread made me decide to read the rev3 store thread as well. And then I checked out the store. I got a sick feeling in my stomach. I'm embarrassed for Rev3.

[speed]

This begs another question: where is the clothing made? I'd rather it be made in a nation that has employment standards, such as the United States, Canada or an EU nation. I just feel sick wearing clothes knowing that they are being made by what are essentially slaves. Unfortunately, it's almost unavoidable now...

[tokenuser]

This begs another question: where is the clothing made? I'd rather it be made in a nation that has employment standards, such as the United States, Canada or an EU nation. I just feel sick wearing clothes knowing that they are being made by what are essentially slaves. Unfortunately, it's almost unavoidable now...Employment "standards"?

[speed]

Employment "standards"?

That's what we call things such as minimum wage, working conditions, maximum work days, etc. in Canada.

[tokenuser]

That's what we call things such as minimum wage, working conditions, maximum work days, etc. in Canada.And what other Canadian ideals would you like to apply to foreign labour laws?

A a days minimum wage in Canada is like a week or a months wage in some countries - but their cost of living is so low that that is acceptable. It is not a lavish lifestyle, but it is a sustainable lifestyle.

How about some of the reverse? A work ethic from these countries that says that working 12 hours a day is OK, and that 6 days of productivity is good?

Why do we have a 40 hour work week? Why 5 days? I know the chant from the labour movement in Australia was "8 hours work, 8 hours play, 8 hours sleep ... 8 bob a day" (8 Bob - a Bob is roughly $0.20 .. and this was 1870's ...so that is a daily wage calculates out to about $65K/year in current values).

The labour laws in China have changed dramatically as they have experienced a shift in focus from exports to domestic production. It has not hit all parts of society yet, but there is a massive trickle down effect that IS impacting all aspects of society ... and agricultural areas are being left behind (as happened in the Western World with the industrial revolution). Fortunately, they are still a communist country, which means that there is a safety net of services available. In our capitalist society, we had to instigate those services from scratch.

Upshot is that as a country changes its labour laws/conditions, and the salary levels improve, the cost to manufacture the goods in those countries gets more expensive. Those costs will appear at your local WalMart, or manufacturers will move to other countries (African nations are poised for this) where labour is still cheap.

Labour laws and a higher standard of living can not just be given. That would force companies out of business because they could not afford their staff, equipment, or materials. It needs to evolve. We can help accelerate the evolution, but the change has to come from within.

Or, you can stop buying the tshirts from companies you feel are unethical, and force them out of business without giving them a chance to change.

[speed]

I'm not asking for some Chinese kid to be getting $12/hour sewing shirts, but he should get a decent wage. Most of these people in third world nations are getting absolute shit in terms of wage and safety standards. There is no excuse for there to not be higher safety levels in other countries.

And I don't buy from companies that I feel are unethical when I can help it, but it's a little hard to do when almost everything is made in a sweatshop nowadays and some places *cough*Jinx*cough*Revision3*cough* don't release information on where their clothing is from.

[tokenuser]

I'm not asking for some Chinese kid to be getting $12/hour sewing shirts, but he should get a decent wage. Most of these people in third world nations are getting absolute shit in terms of wage and safety standards. There is no excuse for there to not be higher safety levels in other countries.I thought you were asking for $12/hour for a kid sewing shirts in China. Aren't those the standard you demand?

Do you know the factory standards in the countries you are referring to for the products you are concerned about?

Hanes? Good american brand. Popular tshirt used for custom printing. Made overseas.
American Apparel? Also good, made in the USA ... but source much of their fabric from overseas.

Its a lose/lose situation.

On the old "first, second, third" world scale, Australia was classified as a third world country because of its reliance on primary industry and heavy imports of manufactured goods. Not bad for a country that has also been held up by the world bank as having the most fiscally stable economic policies in the world, and has some of the highest education and literacy standards.

China (and Cuba) was unclassified - because it was a communist country that did not belong to the east bloc / soviets ... and they provide edcation, medicine, and welfare for all its citizens. Can you say the same for USA and Canada?

Be a socially aware consumer, but look at what you are fighting for first - your efforts might be misguided.

[speed]

I thought you were asking for $12/hour for a kid sewing shirts in China. Aren't those the standard you demand?

Do you know the factory standards in the countries you are referring to for the products you are concerned about?

Hanes? Good american brand. Popular tshirt used for custom printing. Made overseas.
American Apparel? Also good, made in the USA ... but source much of their fabric from overseas.

Its a lose/lose situation.

On the old "first, second, third" world scale, Australia was classified as a third world country because of its reliance on primary industry and heavy imports of manufactured goods. Not bad for a country that has also been held up by the world bank as having the most fiscally stable economic policies in the world, and has some of the highest education and literacy standards.

China (and Cuba) was unclassified - because it was a communist country that did not belong to the east bloc / soviets ... and they provide edcation, medicine, and welfare for all its citizens. Can you say the same for USA and Canada?

Be a socially aware consumer, but look at what you are fighting for first - your efforts might be misguided.

My issues are three fold:
1. most of these countries don't have any safety standards at all, and too many workers get injured on the job, get no breaks, etc. (nobody can work in a textile factory for 10+ hours a day without breaks)
2. the pay is way below the poverty line. To me, there is no excuse for it. When the poverty line is literally pennies, there is no reason a company making millions of dollars can't pay their workers $1.25/hour.
3. child labour. To me, this is a basic right. I know some consider it a western idea, but to me it's no more a western only idea than "don't more people" is.

At this point, I'm looking out more for the least of the evils, since there is no such thing as an "ethical" company or a "good" clothing brand. I'd rather wear something that was made in Canada or the US, but with fabric from Malaysia as opposed to something that was made in Chinese sweatshops with fabric from Malaysia.