View Full Version : New Comics Discussion for 12/24/2008 also likes cookies and milk
conorkilpatrick
12-24-2008, 10:35 AM
Tell us what you thought of the books of the week!
Here's what Josh (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Josh/comics), Ron (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Ron/comics), Conor (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Conor/comics), and Gordon (http://www.ifanboy.com/users/Gordon/comics) are reading.
This week's Pick of the Week:
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From here on out, it's SPOILER-O-RAMA.
Don't forget to rate and review the books over at iFanboy.com (http://www.ifanboy.com/comics)!
labor_days
12-24-2008, 11:04 AM
Conor never sleeps.
cenquist
12-24-2008, 01:30 PM
I naturally assumed that the Ifanboys as a collective had "no sleep" superpowers and that is how they get so much done.
mikegraham6
12-24-2008, 02:22 PM
im going to have to hide out from my family and read my comics somehow today......
dave-accampo
12-24-2008, 10:56 PM
So I got out of work early, picked up comics, and had a bit of time to read them. Small week, but some good quality. Immediate thoughts:
New Avengers - Wow. Really liked this one. I like having the team book back.
Batman - enh. Weakest issue of the week for me. There were some good ideas here and a couple of great lines, but overall, this two-part story wasn't revolutionary. It was a fairly run-of-the-mill "this is what Batman's all about" story. Not bad, not great. A little ho-hum, honestly. But the line about Batman turning his memories into weapons? That was a great line.
Iron Fist - dammit, I really liked this issue. Swierczynski's really worked out the kinks on this book and is telling some nice stories. Good art in this one, too.
Brave and the Bold - I took a chance with David Hine last issue, and it was enough to buy this issue. This is my current dark horse candidate for POW, because it's a book I don't normally read and have few expectations for. But Hine uses Phantom Stranger and Green Lantern to interesting effect here, giving us a bit of a space horror vibe. It feels slightly reminiscent of when 80's Brit writers like Alan Moore wrote super-hero comics. NOT comparing! Just saying it's got a similar tone.
Daredevil - I'm enjoying this ninja-laden arc quite a bit. It threatens to remain mopey, but I like how Foggy's calling Matt on his decisions. It's keeping things lively and not too morose.
Ultimate Spider-man - Ultimatum supposedly looms but I really don't give a crap. And it doesn't matter much. We get some fun stuff in this issue -- great banter with Peter, MJ and Johnny Storm, and I like the potential weirdness of adding Spider-clone-girl-woman? into the mix.
Still need to read Gigantic, but I'm ready to call this a small but quality week of books (for me).
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 01:26 AM
I thought Luke Cage hated the man. (obligitory Shaft joke)
Seriously, he just needed to wait for Tony Stark to get out of leadership position and he'll go right to Norman Osborn now? Weak.
That was the whole point! It shows how far Luke will go to get his kid back.
optimus187prime
12-25-2008, 01:55 AM
Punisher Warzone was awesome finally we see where those Ma's are coming from.
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 02:15 AM
That was the whole point! It shows how far Luke will go to get his kid back.
But we're hammered on every single time with Luke from Civil War to Secret Invasion that Luke wont take shit from no government or higher authority.....unless it's the most evil man who has taken over the most powerful position in the world....Then Luke Cage is the definition of bitch.
You're right, forget his kid, he should just keep saying "Fuck the man!"
His child is worthless, sorry!
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 02:49 AM
You're right, forget his kid, he should just keep saying "Fuck the man!"
His child is worthless, sorry!
Okay your missing the fucking point.
Would Luke Cage would've went to Tony Stark or other high officals if his baby was kidnapped then? That would be a resounding NO.
paper
12-25-2008, 02:57 AM
Okay your missing the fucking point.
Would Luke Cage would've went to Tony Stark or other high officals if his baby was kidnapped then? That would be a resounding NO.
You have no way of knowing this.
Besides, how do you know Cage isn't playing Osborn?
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 03:00 AM
You have no way of knowing this.
Besides, how do you know Cage isn't playing Osborn?
How the hell do I not know of knowing this!?
For the last 2 years Bendis hammered the point that Cage and the rest of the New Avengers were going out on their own and not get help from the government. More likely cause of the Registration Act....but still, Cage was suppose to be the smart leader here. He's going to trust the most evil man on the planet right now?
In two years Bendis has made Luke Cage a more important figure; to now a useless hero again. Remember Secret Invasion? Oh man he was such a factor during that...
Also....everyone including their mother in the Marvel U hated Tony with a passion. He's the man that fucked the rest of the planet. How on Earth can you say 'you dont know that' when we kept hearing how much everyone thought Stark was a bastard?
timmywood-
12-25-2008, 06:23 AM
How the hell do I not know of knowing this!?
For the last 2 years Bendis hammered the point that Cage and the rest of the New Avengers were going out on their own and not get help from the government. More likely cause of the Registration Act....but still, Cage was suppose to be the smart leader here. He's going to trust the most evil man on the planet right now?
In two years Bendis has made Luke Cage a more important figure; to now a useless hero again. Remember Secret Invasion? Oh man he was such a factor during that...
Also....everyone including their mother in the Marvel U hated Tony with a passion. He's the man that fucked the rest of the planet. How on Earth can you say 'you dont know that' when we kept hearing how much everyone thought Stark was a bastard?
I think that is the point Bendis is making with this. Luke Cage is fuck the man until his child is taken and he has no one else to turn to. Doesn't matter if the man were Tony Stark, Norman Osborn or the president. We are seeing Luke emotionally react like he never has before by doing something that he has never done before and always said he wouldn't do.
I thought it was great a return to form for New avengers which has been pretty meh for this entire year.
However for my POW I would have to go with Iron Fist, I loved this little story. The art was great. If people jumped off this book this is a great place to jump back on.
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 06:35 AM
I dont know....I'm sorry to be a rageaholic but this is really pissing me off.
I have the New Avengers: Hood trade and I feel it's one of the best Avengers stories period. It was so fresh, original, and made me care about a villain I never heard of before. Bendis was clearly the top of his game here.
Now I'm starting to see and hear the slow unraveling of everything Bendis has worked so hard on since Civil War screwed up the entire Marvel U. Him bring Luke Cage from a useless 70's hero to a more respectible leader was something that I loved so much from those issues of NA. We're in the late thrones of 2008 and Cage goes from strong leader to whipping boy within an issue.
Look I'm not saying losing his baby isnt terrible. It is! But why did he automatically assume Osborn was his best bet to find the child? It could be just to get an advantage over Osborn....but considering how 'by the numbers' plotting Bendis has been during SI, I just dont see that coming into effect.
Here's something else I'm hating too: Just get rid of the fucking registration act. From day one after Civil War, the majority of the heroes has basically ignored it and nothing worthwhile has come from that plot point. (Except beating us over the head with the fact of this act) If Osborn is actually going to help Cage and the NA without considering they are UNREGISTERED heroes....then they might as well throw in the towel.
dave-accampo
12-25-2008, 06:56 AM
Seriously, he just needed to wait for Tony Stark to get out of leadership position and he'll go right to Norman Osborn now? Weak. I'm going to hazard a guess that you're not a parent.
It had nothing to do with Tony Stark. He would have gone to Stark for help had his kid been kidnapped while Stark was in power.
He built up Cage, sure, but good drama is about putting your character through the wringer. This move does nothing to reverse what Bendis accomplished with Cage. All it does is show how fragile your principles can be when you suddenly have another life to look after. I'd argue that's been a lot of the point of Bendis' work with Cage. Parenthood changes things. You already saw the start of that in his arguments with Jessica while in the New Avengers.
dave-accampo
12-25-2008, 07:09 AM
If Osborn is actually going to help Cage and the NA without considering they are UNREGISTERED heroes....then they might as well throw in the towel. Heh... you seriously think Bendis would suddenly play an altruistic Osborn? Not even close. Osborn will deal with anyone he thinks he can gain something from. That's EXACTLY what this is.
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 07:16 AM
Heh... you seriously think Bendis would suddenly play an altruistic Osborn? Not even close. Osborn will deal with anyone he thinks he can gain something from. That's EXACTLY what this is.
But what would he gain from helping Cage?
Cage should've instantly been arrested and put into a holding cell for getting anywhere near the new leader for the heroes. I guess maybe he wants to get a bunch of them together and then try to get them. IDK, again Bendis has been very sloppy with writing lately (to me anyways) so it's hard to know what he's gonna do.
I mean the Registration Act must be still in effect; if Bucky wanted them to get into his apartment secretly and Wolverine was dressed up to get into the alleyway.
I still find it hard to believe he would go anywhere near Stark if this kidnapping happenend after Civil War. Stark got SHIELD agents on his and the NA's ass if they are even found on the streets. (At least when he didnt have the wuss Ms. Marvel be the leader of those agents). Again, if Cage went even anywhere close to Stark, or Osborn; he should've been arrested immediately. Again we all got hammered issue after issue on how everyone hated Stark and didnt trust him; so I find it hard to believe he would've went to him. He would've tried to find his child by himself (or just with Jessica) before asking for help.
timmywood-
12-25-2008, 07:20 AM
But what would he gain from helping Cage?
Cage should've instantly been arrested and put into a holding cell for getting anywhere near the new leader for the heroes. I guess maybe he wants to get a bunch of them together and then try to get them. IDK, again Bendis has been very sloppy with writing lately (to me anyways) so it's hard to know what he's gonna do.
I mean the Registration Act must be still in effect; if Bucky wanted them to get into his apartment secretly and Wolverine was dressed up to get into the alleyway.
Because if he does find his child Luck Cage will forever be indebted to him. He is going to use it against him. It is the same reason you don't take favors from the mob because one day they will want a favor from you.
If Luke's kid was kidnapped and he was out options he ABSOLUTELY would have gone to Tony for help. He is willing to do anything to save his kid from Jarvis.
Yeah I don't know what he could get from having something over Luke, maybe information on the rest of the New Avengers? Something arresting him immediately couldn't provide?
labor_days
12-25-2008, 01:22 PM
Couldn't it be something as simple as Luke Cage being indebted to him? Osborn is too slick to just be all, "Oh hey, I'll find your kid. But you have to do something shady one day for me".
Norman's public position allows him to pull strings in ways that (hopefully) are not the usual "bbwwhaha" overt villainy. That's the whole entire hook of the Dark Illuminati and Dark Reign. An insidious evil partnership...with Doctor 'Motherfucking' Doom at the table.
Of course, Luke would go to offices equipped to deal with superhuman issues; Shield, or as it happens to be now, Norman Osborn.
ryan79
12-25-2008, 04:43 PM
I have to admit, I was a little surprised to see Luke go to Norman for help. It didn't upset me, because like it's been stated before, this shows us for far Luke is willing to go for help. When I read the page of Luke talking to someone, my first thought was The Hood, but I'm glad Bendis went in the direction he did.
A quick question about that issue, though. During the scenes showing the heroes looking in the dark corners of the city, who was Thing roughing up? I pride myself on knowing my obscure villains, but I couldn't figure out who the big red guy in a trench coat was. Honestly, he looked a lot like Hellboy.
On to other books now...
Nova was fun, as usual. I didn't dig the cover art, but the inside work made me forget that. It was a good read, but I was never a fan of the New Warriors so I didn't get any kind of nostalgic feeling, if that's what the writer was going for. The last page made me laugh out loud because I love Ego. And speaking of the Living Planet, is that a Nova emblem on his forehead?
She-Hulk...well, I like the art. I hear this book is getting the axe in a couple of issues, so I'm just hanging on out of....well, I don't exactly know why, but I might as well finish the run.
Thor was fantastic, as usual. The art matches the character so well. This book is about big battles, big landscapes, big characters and the art gets that across. I missed old Loki. He reminded me how out of place he/she was sitting at Norman's table.
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 06:22 PM
If Luke's kid was kidnapped and he was out options he ABSOLUTELY would have gone to Tony for help. He is willing to do anything to save his kid from Jarvis.
Yeah I don't know what he could get from having something over Luke, maybe information on the rest of the New Avengers? Something arresting him immediately couldn't provide?
But it seems like it was his first option. He didnt even bother to talk to his wife and teammates. He just went to Osborn thinking he was the best person to help. Again, when Stark was leader it was all for one....now with Osborn he goes right to the govt. for help. Once again: Weak.
paper
12-25-2008, 06:25 PM
But it seems like it was his first option. He didnt even bother to talk to his wife and teammates. He just went to Osborn thinking he was the best person to help. Again, when Stark was leader it was all for one....now with Osborn he goes right to the govt. for help. Once again: Weak.
How do you know he didn't talk to his teammates? He's desperate to get his kid back. Why wouldn't he use the best resources?
I'm not fully convinced that he'd be too stubborn to go to Tony either. But Tony can't help him now.
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 09:17 PM
How do you know he didn't talk to his teammates? He's desperate to get his kid back. Why wouldn't he use the best resources?
I'm not fully convinced that he'd be too stubborn to go to Tony either. But Tony can't help him now.
Yes cause I'm sure the man who killed the love of his life (Spider-Man), and the guy who mouth off to Osborn at Wasp's funeral (Hawkeye), and the man who hates the government more then anyone (Logan) were just thrilled to hear Cage ask if Osborn could help them. Those three would just say 'YES!' at a given moment knowning they are being helped by the most evil man in the country right now....
labor_days
12-25-2008, 09:30 PM
Or maybe Cage's teammates are willing to put that aside for the sake of finding their friend's baby from a cult of intergalactic murderers. Marvel is supposed to be the "shades of gray" universe, no?
Putting the heroes in these tough choice situations is the whole point of DR.
paper
12-25-2008, 09:51 PM
TNC has been out-voted.
It's an all bets are off situation, so we're seeing something unexpected. A little dissonance never hurt anybody.
thenextchampion
12-25-2008, 09:54 PM
Yes I'm out voted
Why am I the only one noticing these character flaws and everyone else is too naive to notice them? :)
labor_days
12-25-2008, 10:13 PM
Actually, Cage's response to the particular situation seems completely logical. Being this is a superhuman issue and yet a powerfully human feeling.
I don't understand how this is a character flaw.
I don't know how you think it was his first choice, they spent who knows how long tracking down the skrull they thought could help him only to have it get blown away.
He'd spent days or maybe even weeks tracking that down, all the while not knowing where his daughter was only to have his best and ONLY lead get killed, he was out of options and desperate.
thenextchampion
12-27-2008, 06:26 AM
I don't know how you think it was his first choice, they spent who knows how long tracking down the skrull they thought could help him only to have it get blown away.
He'd spent days or maybe even weeks tracking that down, all the while not knowing where his daughter was only to have his best and ONLY lead get killed, he was out of options and desperate.
But how do YOU know it was days or weeks tracking that Skrulls down? Plus how do you know it wasnt Cage's first choice after the Skrull tracking didnt hold up? You can say I dont know, but we can do a 180 turn and say the exact thing to you.
It's a character flaw for Cage cause once again, he is doing something Luke Cage wouldnt have done 2 years ago. It's also a character flaw for Spidey as much as anyone....cause why the fuck would he go agree for his arch-nemesis for help? That makes just as much sense as BND saying Harry is still alive after so many years in the grave.
How on earth is it a character flaw for Spidey? He had nothing to do with it.
thenextchampion
12-27-2008, 05:34 PM
How on earth is it a character flaw for Spidey? He had nothing to do with it.
Paper just stated: 'How do you know he didnt talk to his teammates?'
Which means, if Cage did talk to the rest of the NA, Parker would've agreed to let Norman Osborn.....his most hated adversary....the one who threatens his life day in and out....and killed the woman he loved....help his Avengers team find the baby.
Didnt Osborn try and kill Spider-Man months ago with 'New Ways to Die'? Why on earth are you gonna tell me Spider-Man agrees to have Norman Osborn help him? Makes no sense what so ever.
I personally don't think he talked to his teammates, this seemed like the last resort of a desperate man.
I'm not sure why you are siding towards "Character Flaw" instead of "Desperate Act" aside from because you just hate Bendis.
thenextchampion
12-27-2008, 05:53 PM
I personally don't think he talked to his teammates, this seemed like the last resort of a desperate man.
I'm not sure why you are siding towards "Character Flaw" instead of "Desperate Act" aside from because you just hate Bendis.
I dont totally hate Bendis.
I'm just angry and depressed that he is changing his characters so much just to keep it in line with Dark Reign. When I can just have this thing in my mind telling me this Dark Reign wont last too long....
Am I starting to hate Bendis? Probably. But again it's more depression then hate cause I keep reading his great runs on previous New Avenger stories and his Ultimate Spider-Man stories....and I'm not seeing the same Bendis I knew and love coming back from my sabbatical then what I'm reading now.
paper
12-27-2008, 06:07 PM
It's a character flaw for Cage cause once again, he is doing something Luke Cage wouldnt have done 2 years ago.
That's not bad writing. That's dissonance and organic character change. There's a difference between writing an inconsistent character and allowing a character to make a logical behavioral change to adapt to a new situation. Luke wasn't a father two years ago. He is now, and that has fundamentally altered the way he makes decisions. So, good writing.
I, for one, don't like predictable storytelling. This was a bit of a surprise. I'm not saying I loved the issue, but I also didn't let it ruin my Christmas. Because, honestly, there's nothing in here worth getting all frazzled about. You don't have the full story, so why get so upset? Don't answer that, because the answer is going to be nonsensical and wildly irrational. Chill out.
thenextchampion
12-27-2008, 06:26 PM
That's not bad writing. That's dissonance and organic character change. There's a difference between writing an inconsistent character and allowing a character to make a logical behavioral change to adapt to a new situation. Luke wasn't a father two years ago. He is now, and that has fundamentally altered the way he makes decisions. So, good writing.
I, for one, don't like predictable storytelling. This was a bit of a surprise. I'm not saying I loved the issue, but I also didn't let it ruin my Christmas. Because, honestly, there's nothing in here worth getting all frazzled about. You don't have the full story, so why get so upset? Don't answer that, because the answer is going to be nonsensical and wildly irrational. Chill out.
What do you mean he wasnt a father 2 years ago!? He had the child around the time of Civil War!!! Sounds like someone doesnt know what he's talking about. So two years ago he wouldnt let Tony Stark or the rest of the government anywhere near his family....Now he has no problem going to them once Osborn is in power. Again, makes no sense why he would trust a supervillain to begin with to help him...and it makes little sense when we we're beaten over the head 1,000,000x times that Cage hated everything what was going on in the country and with registered superheroes....But he has also no problem letting in Ms. Marvel, a government lackey, join the group. So sorry again if this is getting incosistant what was going on with NA a year ago.
Oh and I can say whatever I damn well please. Sorry, once again, you cant handle a fucking complaint from the other side of the arguement.
paper
12-27-2008, 06:32 PM
The kid was born like 2 to 3 years ago. That's all I meant. You're splitting hairs.
You're entitled to your opinion, but you've yet to make a cohesive argument here.
thenextchampion
12-27-2008, 06:35 PM
The kid was born like 2 to 3 years ago. That's all I meant. You're splitting hairs.
You're entitled to your opinion, but you've yet to make a cohesive argument here.
So these like.....20 odd posts I've done, make no sense?
Maybe if you knew how to interpret arguements you would get it better. Just go away and enjoy your flawed and incosistant Bendis stories. Sorry I ruined your little dream world.
Oh sorry was Luke's baby stolen by skrulls 2 years ago? Had he just run all over the city and had the one lead he had killed in front of him just as he was about to find out where his kid was?
The situations are NOT the same, based on the information we have there are 2 possible conclusions. 1: He's a desperate man willing to do literally anything to get his kid back, or 2: Bendis is an idiot and has no idea how to write this character he's been writing for well over 2 years in one of the most acclaimed books at Marvel.
Everyone but you thinks it's 1. Sure 2 is possible but 1 is far more likely.
paper
12-27-2008, 07:30 PM
You can ramble on for 20 posts about how an unexpected turn of events equates to bad writing without actually saying anything of value, yes.
Why is a character having a behavioral change automatically bad writing? Characters can and SHOULD change over time and especially in extreme circumstances such as this.
paper
12-27-2008, 07:32 PM
And you're talking to the guy who dropped Secret Invasion after 3 issues. I'm not defending Bendis, just the principles of character writing in a serialized format.
racemccloud
12-27-2008, 10:40 PM
Hey, guys (and TNC)... my two cents?
Talk to a parent. Ask them to imagine that their child has disappeared, seemingly off the face of the Earth. (Luke Cage's case, that's a very real assumption.) Now ask that parent if they'd be willing to make a deal with the Devil himself to get their child back.
Cage going to Osborn is perfectly feasible. He'd go to Stark in the same situation. Hell, Jessica DID go to Stark before SI to keep Danielle (the baby) safe.
No matter who Luke Cage is, was, or has been throughout his history, you can't ignore that he's a father now. That changes everything. Bendis is writing him from that perspective. 70's "Power Man" Luke Cage would surely say "F@CK YOU, OSBORN!" Luke Cage, father, would make a deal with the Devil himself to get his child back.
As for the argument that he'd talk to his teammates first... well, his teammates scoured the city looking for the kid and came up empty. Luke, as a character, may be seeing the same thing that was obvious during the days of the underground New Avengers before SI: they just don't have the same resources as the government sponsored team, and Osborn in Avengers Tower has a better chance of finding Danielle than Spidey does in some basement in Hell's Kitchen.
I said this in a different thread... Bendis should write the set-up to events, the aftermath of events, and the little off-shoot character moments during events, but not the events themselves. That's what SI and Dark Reign are teaching me.
cormano
12-28-2008, 04:49 AM
Crap. I've been thinking I would go to the store tomorrow and I just realized tomorrow is Sunday. Both of the local shops are closed Sunday and Monday, so I thought, I'll just wait until Wednesday. BUT new comics aren't out until Friday. So, is it worth running over there Tuesday or Wednesday and then again Friday or should I just wait. I'll prolly just wait…
thenextchampion
12-28-2008, 06:18 AM
I agree with that thought Race.
Bendis can clearly write a title before an event (ala Echo's issue in NA before SI) and after an event (The Hood storyline after Civil War in SI)...but it just seems like he isnt ready for the actual main event. So far (in my eyes) he's 0 for 2 when it comes to events.
I feel stupid for getting into such a heated arguement cause A) its the holidays and B) we dont know what fully happened in this issue until next issue (maybe). But damnit, it really bugged the hell out of me that Cage just went to Osborn without any real motivation for doing so. You can tell me that 'oh he's desperate and wants his child back'....but the way Bendis brought this ending to the issue; it just felt extremely rushed just to get to this reveal. Maybe that's why I'm more pissed about it then anyone else, it just felt rushed. If it occured in the next issue then I might be fine with it, but not when your only one issue after Dark Reign.
It feels like he's shoehorning Dark Reign too quickly for this title. I know every single title is effected, but you need to have some set up instead of rushing to get Osborn in there. Maybe if we had Osborn or his lackeys come to Cage during the issue(s) while he was looking for the child would've been better. Fuck that would've been a great ending to an arc! Having Osborn as your last resort to get into the next arc would've been fantastic. Instead it just feels like Bendis had to throw it in this issue just to say 'Oh look! Nothing will be the same' and we barely had a breather to get us into this 'new world'.
racemccloud
12-28-2008, 06:39 AM
Conversely, Champ, I was glad they skipped over six issues of "heroes running around looking for and not finding the baby" and cut straight to the chase. Too much aimless running around is what we've all taken Bendis to task for over the course of SI.
The tough part of the serialized story, of course, is that you react right away, but you really have to take a "wait and see" attitude. Still... I can understand your initial reaction to Luke going to Osborn; given the circumstances, though, I completely accept it.
Fuck it dudes, let's go bowling.
Did anybody read Gigantic #2? I'm still out of town, so I didn't get to go buy my comics. That was one title I was really looking foward to though, so I'm curious if it was as good as the first.
Also: I didn't/won't read NA, but I wanted to point out that the solicits for the future issues of NA all feature Luke Cage on the cover while the Thunderbolts issues do not. Of course, it could be a ruse by Marvel, but knowing comics, Cage will only be on the dark side for a small amount of time.
I liked Gigantic even more than issue #1.
deadspace
12-28-2008, 04:37 PM
Did anybody read Gigantic #2? I'm still out of town, so I didn't get to go buy my comics. That was one title I was really looking foward to though, so I'm curious if it was as good as the first.
Haven't read it yet but will later today.
Only read Unknown Soldier so far. Was ok. Probably the weakest issue so far but I'm still really enjoying it.
thenextchampion
12-28-2008, 04:45 PM
Conversely, Champ, I was glad they skipped over six issues of "heroes running around looking for and not finding the baby" and cut straight to the chase. Too much aimless running around is what we've all taken Bendis to task for over the course of SI.
The tough part of the serialized story, of course, is that you react right away, but you really have to take a "wait and see" attitude. Still... I can understand your initial reaction to Luke going to Osborn; given the circumstances, though, I completely accept it.
Well I mean let's have like a two issue mini arc. It would introduce us the New Avengers in the 'Dark Reign' world and it would slowly gives us tension knowing Cage has no choice but to go to Osborn for help. That would've been a much better story then just going right to Osborn. But it's too late now, this is how Bendis scripted the story.
Man if it wasnt for my friend letting me read his pulls this week....I'd go crazy. I got to read NA, ASM, and Thor only because my LCS has been closed ever since X-Mas. Gotta wait til next Friday to get all my comics that I missed. God-a Damnit-a.
euchre0
12-29-2008, 07:19 PM
Didn't you say you wouldn't be reading anymore Bendis books anyway?
matthaber1
12-30-2008, 12:40 AM
This was a decent week for me. Here are my thoughts:
Batman #683- probably my POTW. I only started picking up batman with R.I.P, but im really loving what grant morrison is doing with batman. Can't wait for final crisis 6 to see his final fate.
Guerrillas #3- another great issue. I am really liking this mini series. I just wished it was monthly.
Gears of war #3- I missed the second issue, and couldn't find it in my store, but i still bought issue 3. It was pretty good, It stays true to the game, and i really like the art
Rann-Thanagar Holy War #8- By far the weakest issue of the week. I'm pretty happy this finally ended. The mini started off strong, but after a few issues became really bad. I probally wont be picking up strange adventures when it comes out.
I still haven't read Reign in hell #6 yet. For some reason it always takes me a while to actually read it.
Was anyone else's Captain America: Theater of War misprinted? It was really annoying and made the story completely unreadable.
thenextchampion
12-30-2008, 04:35 AM
Didn't you say you wouldn't be reading anymore Bendis books anyway?
New Year's Resolution my friend.
It would've been stupid to start when you got a whole new year to start it with only two weeks to go.
I just finished a few books I purchased at a comic shop while I was on vacation.
I really enjoyed Billy Batson. It's just such a light hearted, fun comic and I LOVE Kunkel's cartooning. Such a fun read.
I'm also loving Punisher: WarZone by Ennis and Dillon. It's unbelievably awesome, and is a great Punisher title.
I still don't know how I feel about Unknown Soldier. I get the feeling that Dysart is having a hard time making deciding the tone of the book. Is it going to be a serious drama? An action movie? A supernatural/superhero story? The setting is definitely interesting, but something about the title just feels off.
optimus187prime
01-01-2009, 04:20 PM
I'm also loving Punisher: WarZone by Ennis and Dillon. It's unbelievably awesome, and is a great Punisher title.
Cant wait for this weeks issue. Ennis is keeping me guessing.