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01-19-2009, 04:15 PM
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Complaints flood Seagate over hard drive problems
Seagate offers free firmware upgrade
Lucas Mearian


January 17, 2009 (Computerworld) Seagate Technologies' online support forum has been riddled this week with complaints from owners of the high-capacity Barracuda 7200.11 hard drive, which in recent months had already drawn some complaints that the drive has been freezing up during data transfers or failing all together.

The Barracuda 7200.11 is the eleventh generation of Seagate's flagship drive for desktop PCs and comes in capacities ranging from 160GB to 1.5TB. Complaints have not been limited to Seagate's online support site. They have also rained in on other forums. The complaints involve drives running Linux, Mac OS X and Windows Vista.

The company said in a statement Friday that indeed a problem has caused some drives to fail and it said it isolated the issue to a firmware bug affecting not only the 7200.11 but several other models manufactured through December 2008. Those include the DiamondMax 22, the Barracuda ES.2 SATA and the SV35.

Seagate is offering a firmware upgrade that it says will fix the issue.

"In some circumstances, the data on the hard drives may become inaccessible to the user when the host system is powered on," the statement said. "If you have one of the affected products ... we recommend that you update the firmware on the disk drive."

According to users, the drives tend to freeze for about 30 seconds during I/O transfers of streaming video or when reading or writing files at low speeds. One law firm, Kabatek, Brown and Kellner LLP, even states on its Website that it is considering a class-action lawsuit against Seagate because of the number of complaints about the Barracuda 7100.11.

Seagate said users should visit its support Web site to determine if their model drive is affected by the bug.

Seagate also offers support by telephone: 1-800-SEAGATE (1 800 732-4283).

Seagate did not offer a link to the firmware upgrade, saying only that "customers can expedite assistance by sending an e-mail to Seagate. The e-mail should include the disk drive model number, serial number and current firmware revision.

"We will respond, promptly, to your e-mail request with appropriate instructions. There is no data loss associated with this issue, and the data still resides on the drive. But if you are unable to access your data due to this issue, Seagate will provide free data recovery services," the company said. "Seagate will work with you to expedite a remedy to minimize any disruption to you or your business."

Seagate released the four-platter drive, Barracuda, it's largest drive ever, in July. Seagate attributes the drive's extraordinary density to perpendicular magnetic recording technology, which stands bits upright instead of laying them flat on the surface of a platter, thereby taking up less space per bit.

Computerworld had no issues with the drive when it reviewed the hardware in October, but some reader comments indicated at the time there were issues with drives failing.


If anyone uses one of these drives, might want to back it up and install the firmware upgrade!

pianoplayer88key
01-19-2009, 06:42 PM
!

and here I was thinking (in a few months when I can afford it) about buying TWO of the 1.5TB drives, and using one as main storage (cause I'm running out of space on my smaller HDDs, a 80GB, 250GB and 750GB Western Digital) and one as backup (cause I'm not backing up at all now).

computoman
01-20-2009, 01:18 AM
Months ago there was a video on youtube by a technician who recovers data from expired hard drives for a living. He suggested at that time to be wary of the new high capacity drives that they might have issues

skoles
01-20-2009, 02:34 PM
What sucks more is if you have a Mac then you're SOL unless you find a PC with SATA hookups. I'm currently in that situation.

Macs at work, Mac at home & nobody I know that uses SATA in their system (since I don't have extra cables)

md2389
01-21-2009, 05:43 PM
All three of my drives have never had anything thats described in that article, and aside from the 500GB that replaced the failed 160GB Maxtor, they've been running great for the last two and a half years w/o a hiccup. Hell, I'm running the Win 7 beta off of one of those drives, and had ubuntu on that same drive for the longest time. Still, I suppose it won't hurt to install the update.

trunolimit
01-21-2009, 05:48 PM
All three of my drives have never had anything thats described in that article, and aside from the 500GB that replaced the failed 160GB Maxtor, they've been running great for the last two and a half years w/o a hiccup. Hell, I'm running the Win 7 beta off of one of those drives, and had ubuntu on that same drive for the longest time. Still, I suppose it won't hurt to install the update.

If it aint broke don't fix it, my mamy use to say.

md2389
01-21-2009, 06:19 PM
Heh, turns out my drives aren't even affected. ;) (both being 400GB models, with one being a generation behind the other. 7200.11 and 7200.10 respectively) Still wouldn't hurt to check for an update though.

slynine
01-29-2009, 08:35 PM
I have a 1.5 TB seagate, and it works fine for me. I've heard their are certian situations like RAID where these drives are having problems.

But a class action suite, thats BS. How will that help the consumer of these drives. Also every one knows a HD can fail, BACK UP YOUR DATA PROPERLY.

If you have a problem with your 1.5 TB Seagate HD, dont go to crazzy, as a firmware update will most likely get all your data and drive back in working order.

myketuna
01-30-2009, 05:28 AM
I have one of the affected drives, but I heard about this 2 or so weeks ago. I updated my drive's firmware twice (they released one version, then another because the former introduced a new bug or something) and now am feeling pretty secure that it's not going to crap out on me. I backed everything up, so if it does I'm gonna go get a Western Digital. This particular bug scared me though because reading the Seagate support forums, when this bug hits, the drive disappears from the BIOS, and you can't upgrade the firmware once it "dies" either.

davmoo
01-30-2009, 09:48 AM
I've got a pair of these in 1.5TB, but apparently mine have firmware that does not have this bug. So far I've not had any problems, and that's with hard and heavy usage too.

Granted its a pain in the butt to have to go through, but should anyone's drives of these models fail from this bug Seagate is offering free data recovery services.