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computoman
03-09-2009, 01:27 AM
http://www.puredarwin.org/
tokenuser
03-09-2009, 03:28 AM
No, not a new Mac OS. More like a forked version of the OS to satisfy the requirements of the BSD and FreeBSD lineage of the OS.
Darwin itself is not particularly remarkable. It is a pretty standard Unix implementation. What makes OSX special is the combination of Darwin (the kernel Apple open sourced) plus the Aqua window manager interface and Finder - the glue that binds them.
The Aqua interface is not open sourced, which means that OpenWIN OR PureDarwin need to run their own windows manager on top of the kernel. Since these windows managers do not include the Cocoa or even Carbon APIs, programs written for OSX will not run under this system.
If the OSX program was written to the POSIX APIs then, maybe it might run in an appropriate window manager.
So, does this make PureDarwin a new Mac OS? No, not unless you run everything at a command line in terminal mode.
phatlip
03-11-2009, 12:29 AM
No, not a new Mac OS. More like a forked version of the OS to satisfy the requirements of the BSD and FreeBSD lineage of the OS.
Darwin itself is not particularly remarkable. It is a pretty standard Unix implementation. What makes OSX special is the combination of Darwin (the kernel Apple open sourced) plus the Aqua window manager interface and Finder - the glue that binds them.
The Aqua interface is not open sourced, which means that OpenWIN OR PureDarwin need to run their own windows manager on top of the kernel. Since these windows managers do not include the Cocoa or even Carbon APIs, programs written for OSX will not run under this system.
If the OSX program was written to the POSIX APIs then, maybe it might run in an appropriate window manager.
So, does this make PureDarwin a new Mac OS? No, not unless you run everything at a command line in terminal mode.
Hit the nail right on the head. :)
tokenuser
03-11-2009, 02:56 AM
Minor correction to what I wrote after reading Phatty's quote - I meant to say OpenDarwin, not OpenWIN. My bad.
computoman
03-11-2009, 04:31 AM
I never expected it to be a osx clone. It is interesting how things are evolving with alternative os's now.
stayambiguous
03-21-2009, 09:32 PM
Snow-Leopard is supposedly coming out sometime soon (don't take my word for it), and there are working beta's out there if you're really curious.
But some of you probably already know this xd.
phatlip
03-22-2009, 04:58 AM
Snow-Leopard is supposedly coming out sometime soon (don't take my word for it), and there are working beta's out there if you're really curious.
But some of you probably already know this xd.
The new Stacks in Snow Leopard looks awesome.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/leaked-snow-leopard-screenshots-and-video-show-new-stacks-insta/ (http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/leaked-snow-leopard-screenshots-and-video-show-new-stacks-insta/)
*I'm assuming this is true b/c Apple sent their attack dogs and had the video removed*
No, not a new Mac OS. More like a forked version of the OS to satisfy the requirements of the BSD and FreeBSD lineage of the OS.
Darwin itself is not particularly remarkable. It is a pretty standard Unix implementation. What makes OSX special is the combination of Darwin (the kernel Apple open sourced) plus the Aqua window manager interface and Finder - the glue that binds them.
The Aqua interface is not open sourced, which means that OpenWIN OR PureDarwin need to run their own windows manager on top of the kernel. Since these windows managers do not include the Cocoa or even Carbon APIs, programs written for OSX will not run under this system.
If the OSX program was written to the POSIX APIs then, maybe it might run in an appropriate window manager.
So, does this make PureDarwin a new Mac OS? No, not unless you run everything at a command line in terminal mode.
This.